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Post by
Skyfire
You know, your scenario is rigged by the fact that you require that the sex, and the baby-having, are consensually had.
I.e., it's a leading question.
Fail.
Post by
Hyperspacerebel
You know, your scenario is rigged by the fact that you require that the sex, and the baby-having, are consensually had.
I.e., it's a leading question.
Fail.
Most sex is consensual.
Most condomless, contraceptionless, consensual (omg alliteration!) sex is for baby-having.
Where's the fail?
Post by
MyTie
You know, your scenario is rigged by the fact that you require that the sex, and the baby-having, are consensually had.
I.e., it's a leading question.
Fail.
Most abortions are under the circumstances which you call 'fail'. Anyway, the scenerio isn't meant to fit all abortions. I never said it did.
Either respond to the OP questions, debate how people have responded, or leave.
Post by
165617
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Post by
Skyfire
Most abortions are under the circumstances which you call 'fail'.
Show me some numbers, please.
Anyway, the scenerio isn't meant to fit all abortions. I never said it did.
Uh huh. I'll take that with a grain of salt.
Either respond to the OP questions, debate how people have responded, or leave.
It's a meta-response to the OP's questions.
Most condomless, contraceptionless, consensual (omg alliteration!) sex is for baby-having.
I'm doubtful of that statement of fact as well.
Post by
Toldry
Forcing the woman to have a baby against her will and holding her hostage against her will.
They did consentually agree to have a baby beforehand. Put yourself in his shoes, and just, for instance, think that unborn babies are actually alive, and that is your kid.
Because I don't see unborn babies as "alive" the same way you see it, then my opinion stays as it is.
MyTie; I have a question for you;
(I actually learned this in class last year)
The scenario is a woman giving birth to a baby, but the baby is stuck and is endangering the woman's life.
Here you need to either choose to save the woman and kill the baby (The fun part in the class was that the teacher added that to save the woman you must decapitate the baby)
or force the baby out of the woman and thus killing the the woman.
Optional circumstances;
1) You ask the woman if she'd rather have the baby or her own life and she chooses the baby's life.
2) You ask the woman if she'd rather have the baby or her own life and she chooses her own life.
3) It is impossible to ask the woman for her opinion.
What is your solution?
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165617
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Post by
MyTie
Most abortions are under the circumstances which you call 'fail'.
Show me some numbers, please.
Googled it
. It's the section a little down the page that says "1% of all abortions occur because of rape or incest". I knew it was little. I thought it was less than 1%, but I guess it is 1%. Anyway. The majority of abortions are due to consentual sex.
That's right, Skyfire, let the facts sting.... hurts don't it?
Post by
Skyfire
Googled it
. It's the section a little down the page that says "1% of all abortions occur because of rape or incest". I knew it was little. I thought it was less than 1%, but I guess it is 1%. Anyway. The majority of abortions are due to consentual sex.
That's right, Skyfire, let the facts sting.... hurts don't it?
Nope. Try again.
See, I asked about the part about consensual baby making
as well as
the part about consensual sexing. I already knew the statistics on the latter. Your comment also applied to the former.
Do not pass Go. Do not collect $200.
Post by
MyTie
Because I don't see unborn babies as "alive" the same way you see it, then my opinion stays as it is.Who said I see babies as alive? I just see that possibility, and therefore can't condone abortion or the choice to have one.MyTie; I have a question for you;
(I actually learned this in class last year)
The scenario is a woman giving birth to a baby, but the baby is stuck and is endangering the woman's life.
Here you need to either choose to save the woman and kill the baby (The fun part in the class was that the teacher added that to save the woman you must decapitate the baby)
or force the baby out of the woman and thus killing the the woman.
Optional circumstances;
1) You ask the woman if she'd rather have the baby or her own life and she chooses the baby's life.
2) You ask the woman if she'd rather have the baby or her own life and she chooses her own life.
3) It is impossible to ask the woman for her opinion.
What is your solution?Try to save both, but forcing a baby through a woman's womb will not kill the woman, that I've ever heard of.
1) same answer.
2) same answer.
3) same answer.
Post by
Hyperspacerebel
You know, your scenario is rigged by the fact that you require that the sex, and the baby-having, are consensually had.
I.e., it's a leading question.
Fail.
Most sex is consensual.
Most condomless, contraceptionless, consensual (omg alliteration!) sex is for baby-having.
Where's the fail?
That's why there is so many teenage mothers right? America has the highest rate of teenage pregnancy of any Westernized country...
Only 20% of abortions are done on teens.
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148723
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Post by
Hyperspacerebel
Because I don't see unborn babies as "alive" the same way you see it, then my opinion stays as it is.Who said I see babies as alive? I just see that possibility, and therefore can't condone abortion or the choice to have one.
There is no question whether an embryo or fetus is alive. That's a scientific fact.
The issue if it's a human
person
or not.
Post by
Toldry
that I've ever heard of.
awesome
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165617
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Post by
Skyfire
Nope. Try again.
See, I asked about the part about consensual baby making
as well as
the part about consensual sexing. I already knew the statistics on the latter. Your comment also applied to the former.
Do not pass Go. Do not collect $200.
Why are you always so critical of MyTie? If I were to make an abortion thread like this you'd be like 'Lol Fayne' and maybe leave it be or lock it.
Or would you?
I'll answer the second first: Because you aren't MyTie.
The first now: MyTie knows
exactly
what he's getting into when he starts a thread on abortion.
Am I always so critical of him? Is that reality, or your perception of reality talking?
Post by
Hyperspacerebel
Still the highest of any Western nation and ironically enough, most teenage mothers live in the Bible. One can assume that this is because the mother is against abortion, but I thought it was funny that they were having sex to begin with.
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edit for a quote phail
I honestly caught maybe two words of that.
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148723
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184848
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Post by
Skyfire
believing in objective morals is so dangerous.
I don't agree, but to each their own! Perhaps a thread for another time.
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