Warrior DPS Talent Builds and Runes - Season of Discovery

Por Babyhoof Actualizado: 08/04/2025

Best Talent Builds for Warrior DPS - Phase 8Sed de sangreBest Runes for Warrior DPS - Phase 8

Helm Rune

is a simple rune, simply increasing the amount of Rage that we generate by dealing damage. This can prove essential when tackling high heat levels in MC, as the extra resistance required means that you can often forgo wearing more potent damage gear, reducing our rage output.

is mostly used with builds that also take , giving us additional reasons to use Rend in PvE Content.

Bracer Rune

might have more viability if it affected more abilities rather than just Bloodthirst. However, as we already have a strong method of getting enraged in , another is unnecessary, and conflicts with a strong cooldown rune also on the bracer slot

has been changed to provide a more burst favored alternative to . However, the fact that it requires a global can make it feel clunky, as lining it up with our numerous other cooldowns can be frustrating at best.

Chest Rune

has overgone a massive rework, and is now a surprisingly good option, being close in damage to . It can, however, be a little more complex to play with, and is often slightly behind its alternative.

With the changes to both Enrage uptime and itself in Phase 4, this is now one of our best options. It occupies a low priority in our rotation, but serves as both a more damage effective hamstring when our other major abilities are on cooldown, and a rage free option when we are low on rage.

Glove Rune

Single Minded Fury has seen some quite significant nerfs and changes in Phase 4, the biggest of which requires us to continually attack a target in order to reach the runes maximum capability. However, it remains a strong rune - attack speed and movement speed are both valuable tools for DPS warriors.

is the preferable rune for most 2H focused builds, adding an extra ability that significantly outdamages Hamstring as a filler global.

Legs Rune

has received many changes over the course of its existence in SoD, finally settling in the form it appears in today. Both parts of the rune are of importance to us - The whirlwind change gives our offhand a more important role in terms of damage dealt, and improves our AoE quite a bit, while the enrage activating at 60 instead of 80 rage allows us more chances to become enraged naturally.

is the preferable rune for most 2H focused builds, adding some much needed extra rage generation as well as additional attack speed to spend it with..

Belt Rune

changes from a castable ability into a slightly weaker Mortal Strike. While this may not sound good at first, part of the value of Slam is in its insane efficiency; It deals almost the same damage as MS, while costing half the rage! This makes the rune a very strong option for any Arms Spec using a slow, powerful weapon, and gives us extra buttons to press outside of MS and Whirlwind.

was first introduced in WotLK, and returns in SoD to grant you a chance at an instant cast Slam every time you hit with Whirlwind, Bloodthirst, or Heroic Strike. While this may seem weaker than for 2H Fury focused builds, the amount of Heroic Strike casts you will do using as well as the free rage cost makes it very strong.

Boots Rune

is a fan favourite rune based on the Warlords of Draenor talent, allowing you to be a competitive DPS while wielding a shield. Despite the survivability downsides, this rune will see play in both DPS and Tank scenarios - in the DPS side of things, the additional % damage modifiers obtained from this rune, along with the strength of Deep Wounds, enable a simplistic build focused on stacking high Deep Wounds. While this is the only DPS option on the boot slot, it is only taken by people playing the Gladiator Stance build.

Cloak Rune

is another talent repurposed as a rune. Due to Executes lack of scaling in SoD compared to most other abilities, this rune is currently unused in all forms of content.

is an alternative to the powerful Sudden death rune, and is currently significantly ahead of it. It is notably simpler and less clunky than sudden death, and is far easier to play with, as Sudden Death can have a nasty habit of rage starving the user.

Comentarios

Comentario de Thaidakar

I have some thoughts about the talent build.

Firstly, doesn't Control de furia provide way more value than Embestir mejorado or 1 point into Crueldad? Not only does it make it easier to pool rage in-between packs to maintain the necessary 80 rage, it also provides 1 rage per 3 seconds in combat, which over the course of a two minute fight is like a 570% rage increase over Embestir mejorado, and you get the added benefit of keeping more rage should you need to swap to defensive stance (to pick up an add, etc) as a result of the full 5 points into Maestría táctica.

Additionally, while I don't know how much rage 1 point into Crueldad will provide you over the course of a fight, I do know that it will be inconsistent and spiky, whereas Control de furia has a perfectly smooth rage profile, making it much easier to dip below and then back above the 80 rage cap consistently without capping your rage bar.

And finally, as I understand it we are using Golpe rápido for the sole purpose of dumping rage and/or proc'ing windfury. Putting points into Golpe heroico mejorado seems to run counter to the goal of dumping rage, and is really only seems to be useful as a filler talent in my opinion, as 1 rage per Golpe rápido isn't really a huge saving across the whole fight, but it might make the difference between refreshing Consumido por la ira or not.

The talent build I have been using is more like the following:
→ → → → →

I'd love to hear people's thoughts on this.

EDIT: I did some maths.

It turns out the savings you get from Golpe heroico mejorado have the potential to be greater than I thought. Assuming you use it every gcd, you get 0.67 rage per second, which is twice that provided by Control de furia. However, it's probably unrealistic to be filling every gcd with Golpe rápido at this point (for me at least, with my dinky ol Martillo poderoso de acometida). A more realistic usage at this point in time is once every weapon swing, which will result in somewhere between 0.33 and 0.25 rage per second. However, a) this is not any new rage, simply rage that's saved, so it won't help you get to 80 rage any quicker, and b) still infringes on your ability to dump rage quickly.

As for the 1 point in Crueldad, let us assume for simplicity's sake that you are using a 3.5 speed weapon that generates 20 rage per swing (this is a very high estimate). Critical strikes generate twice the rage, so a critical strike generates an extra 20 rage. With an extra 1% chance to crit, we get an extra 0.2 rage per swing on average, for a grand total of 0.06 rage per second. So in terms of sustained rage generation, Crueldad is most definitely not worth it.

EDIT 2: Some Anecdotal Evidence & More Maths.

At this point in time I have cleared the raid 3 times, and over those runs I have noticed a few things.

Firstly, I have yet to test the build this guide recommends, but I'll try and get that done this reset. What I did test, however, was the potential benefits of a point into Clavar over a point into Abrumar mejorado. From my testing this came out to be less than satisfactory, with a loss of ~3 dps. Considering the relatively small sample size this could easily be a statistical error, so this is where the math comes in (warning, there is decent a bit of math ahead. I've marked a section to skip to if you aren't interested :D).

The average damage from an attack (including critical strike chance but not miss, dodge, etc) can be found using the following formula:
Avg = D * (1 + M * C)
Where D is the average non-critical hit, M is the damage modifier (for our purposes either 1 or 1.1, for spell casters it would be 0.5, etc) and C is the percentage chance to critically strike, between 0 and 1. This formula will allow us to compare the damage with and without Clavar of our abilities, as well as the damage of Abrumar with and without Abrumar mejorado.

However to truly determine which is the better option, we need to take into account the relative frequency with which each ability is used. The easiest way to do this is to determine how often each ability is used per weapon swing, as we know that mobs have 5.40% chance to dodge attacks, and thus Abrumar can be used 0.054 times per weapon swing*.

Assuming that we are keeping Consumido por la ira active at all times Arremetida enfurecida is simply on an 8 second cool down. This means the number of times we use it per swing is equal to our weapon speed divided by eight, which in my case is 0.44 (yes I still haven't upgraded from Martillo poderoso de acometida. Sad times.) Arremetida enfurecidas per swing.

Our final ability that we use with any amount of frequency is Golpe rápido. There is no set frequency with which we use this ability, as it depends entirely on how our rage bar is doing, but from my experience it's somewhere between one and two times per swing. I chose to use a value of 1.5 in my calculations personally, but you can choose whatever you feel is most appropriate.

Now that we have all of these pieces, we can put together an equation to determine how much value we gain / lose from taking Clavar.

(Skip to here if you don't care about the explanation)
With 2/2 Abrumar mejorado:
D1 = + +

With 1/2 Abrumar mejorado and 1/2 Clavar:
D2 = + +

Where D is your average weapon damage, C is your critical chance, Q is the damage done by your Golpe rápido, WS is you weapon speed, and K is the number of Golpe rápidos you use per swing.

Whenever the value of D2 is bigger than the value of D1, I believe it will be more optimal to use Clavar over Abrumar mejorado. I have yet to work out the breakpoints for when this is the case, but from some quick fiddling with the numbers, it seems that both higher critical strike chance and Golpe rápido damage increases the relative worth of Clavar, as one might expect. Additionally, better weapons will generate more rage, leading to a higher volume of abilities used, which also increases the value of Clavar.

While sitting in the Astranaar inn with no buffs to speak of, D1 is bigger than D2 by a measly 0.12, and so I imagine with raid buffs the scales will tip to favour Clavar slightly.

One final thing I noticed from my raiding experience is that I often hit the rage cap despite spamming out as many Golpe rápidos as possible, which is most definitely a DPS loss. I'm half considering moving the points from Golpe heroico mejorado into Desvío to help me dump more rage, as well as giving me a little more survivability in open world / PvP/ tanking content, but I'm unsure that will be worth it. I will endeavour to update this if I find anything else interesting (although I'm about to run into the character with this gigantic comment as it is. I hope at least someone gains some useful insight from this :P).

*This number is lower than it will be realistically as abilities can also be dodged too, but it is good enough for our needs.

Comentario de AcidBomb

Heroic Strike Cancelling completely changes how DW warriors play and give you completely control of your rotation/rage.

Just a trick for anyone that doesn't know. All DW Fury warriors should be Heroic Strike Cancel sometimes called Heroic Strike Queue. What this is and how it works is basically anytime Heroic Strike is queued up, and your OH hits, it will never miss. Meaning you go from around 25% miss on oh to 0% miss (7% before hit capped). Almost all your melee damage is caused by your OH and it is usually around 80-90% of your melee damage is done by your off hand because when Heroic Strike is used it consumes your Main hand hit. Using Heroic Strike Cancelling not only increases your DPS but it also is a HUGE gain in rage because like I said before 80-90% of your melee is your off hand, and that also means 80-90% of your rage generation is also from your OH.

The reason this works is because in the code when Heroic Strike is Queued up the game thinks your casting a spell, and your OH swing is also considered a Yellow roll instead of the normal white roll it usually has. This is why your OH will never miss, meaning more rage and more melee dps. Thats why its called Heroic Strike Cancelling... Well lets say you queue HS up and you will drop below a certain rage threshold while either BT/WW is about to come off CD normally you cant stop the cast of the Heroic Strike which will rage starve you... Instead you just hit the HS with /stopcasting macro on it turning HS off, as soon as your MH hits you want to requeue it because you want Heroic Strike always queued before your OH hits. Below is the macro used:

#showtooltip
/startattack
/cast Heroic Strike
/stopcasting

also

#showtooltip
/startattack
/cast Cleave
/stopcasting

This works for cleave as well. Lastly as DW fury you always want your weapons desynced. If not your HS will clip your OH and it makes it much easier to turn HS on/off the more they are staggered. You should also always queue HS up before you Execute because even though your rage starved and cant use the HS as long as it was queued up it will still make it so your OH will not miss meaning more rage and more Executes. You can also do this before your BT/WW if they will drop u below 10 rage, even tho HS wont be able to go through it will still make your OH never miss. Here is my desync macro as well:

/cleartarget
/targetlasttarget
/startattack

Hopefully this will help someone, not many people know about this but if you ever look at top 10 warriors on warcraftlogs and notice their melee has nearly 0% miss rate while yours is around 20%, this is why. Its hard to explain this to people but once you use the /stopcasting macro you will pick it up really quick. There is still more to be learned with it because like anything with practice you will get much better at catching every OH swing. Doing this completely changes the class and gives you much more control of your rage.

By just learning this, you will be part of the 1% top warriors and will instantly see a difference against any other warrior you play with.

Warrior DPS Talent Builds and Runes - Season of Discovery

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