Patch 3.2 - New emblem system

Publicado por Shaxe

Why would it nullify the efforts of the raiders? Whatever you have now won't be top end gears when 3.2 comes out, this change will just make it easier for new 80s or alts to get into the current raid progression without having to wait let's say... 5 months before starting on the coliseum raid. If you're that badass, shower yourself with hard mode items, those stuff are a tier above whatever the vendors have so you can flex your small epeen with it.

The efforts raiders are putting in getting those T8/8.5 now will allow you to have it now, that's it. I find it really amusing when people see the badge changes and go all FFUUUUUUUUUU BLIZZ 4 CATERING CASUALS as if everyone can get Conquest badges from doing H VH by next Tuesday. When this change goes live, T9 will be the new T8/8.5 and Conquest badges will be the new Heroism badges. Then isn't it only fair for them to update heroics to provide pre latest raid gears to continue the whole "heroics before raid" cycle so that people can get into the latest raid without having to batter their way through all the pre 3.2 raids that will most likely be inactive by then?

This change is only a stupid idea if they implemented it at 3.0. Imagine when coliseum releases and your guild lost like 5/25 raiders due to lolguilddrama and now you guys are recruiting people. Chances are you're probably only getting new 80s looking for a raid guild and you can't be arsf***ed to run Naxx 10 with them. Guess what then? Blizzard just made you "hardcore" people lives' easier as well. Oh wait... doesn't Blizzard only change stuff for casuals? Wtf my world doesn't make sense anymore.

Publicado por Porcell

Also, it's not like suddenly everyone is going to be decked in full T8.5 gear once Conquest Badges are out for everyone. Just like when SSO badge vendor showed up, there will be a few high level pieces that are easy(er) to get, but it doesn't mean everyone is going to "ding 70 and go to Sunwell" like people are saying. Assuming nothing changes, people will be able to get 2 pieces of T8.5 and 2 crafted BiS pieces (generally). Depending on the class, the other conquest pieces (what are they? pants and bracers?) may or may not be fabulous. I know as a tank I spent all of my badges on Runed Orbs because the actual gear pieces aren't that good.

I'm a pretty big-time raider and I don't mind the change. It will make running Naxx actually worthwhile for me, beyond just being magnanimous and helping other people gear up. It doesn't take away all of the 25 Ulduar and Hard Mode drops I have. It will be a good way for me to gear up my two alts as well.

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Publicado por NeoBlackheart

Here is my thought. Go look at the conquest vendor. Now tell me. DO you see stuff that rivals everythign in 25man Ulduar. Can I just gear up from the vendor and have top notch gear? the answer no. NO weapons are there that gives anything good. so what are you gonna be doing? running heroics and raids still to get better weapons and gear.

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Hmm i thought it was June and not April 1st.

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Publicado por pezz

From the 3.2 PTR patch notes:

* The heroic dungeon daily quest will now reward 2 Emblems of Triumph and the normal daily dungeon quest will reward 1 Emblem of Triumph.
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What are people's thoughts?

If I read this correctly, this is the only part that annoys me. In a couple months I have to reroll since you can't transfer from EU servers to US servers (another thing that annoys me) and honestly I'll never get anybody geared up to colliseum level if they don't change the badge system, because how many people with any talent at all are still going through heroics, then naxx, then naxx 25, etc...? So I'm glad I can get some decent gear from instances I can actually find groups for, and then get back to decent raids again.

But did I read this right? Top end, best-in-the-game emblems from the daily dungeon quest? I mean, I know it's only three a day, but it's three a day from one heroic and one normal five man.

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Publicado por dashihawk

Do you raid just for getting gear? Or do you raid to experience new content/bond with a team, etc? It seems to me that those two sides are a bit at odds with one another. I personally look forward to raiding without having to deal with people bickering over drops.

Gear.

/agree

But if the availability of tier items is like the current vendors you will ony be able to get 2 tier items. and of course non tier equivalents. Although i disagree with the change Blizz will do what they feel like and this will make it easier to gear out my up and coming warrior.

I still don't like it though.

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Publicado por Wildhorn

Why do you care that people are able to get gear that you should already have gotten months ago if you're half as good as you claim to be?

Are you really that selfish?

Please people, use some common sense. It is infinitely better to have content experienced by the majority of people instead of having it only experienced by the minority of "best" players.

The way it works now is that the "best" players will simply see the content sooner. The less "best" players will see it later.

I cannot see a problem...

Spoiler: Great players know that gear is nothing without the skill to actually do something with it

The emblem change is necessary, else new players will be forced to farm battlegrounds to get the best gear to start raiding. Just like in TBC. Think about it. Atleast you still have to farm just as long to get the same items, they just gave you access to new improved versions. But you still have to raid to be able to get the best ones.

Which would make crap players flooding the BGs, ruining PvPers experience even more.

And unless you have Alone in the Darkness you have no reason to QQ about this change.

And it is not like it gonna be game breaking. There is only 6 items (amulet, helm, chest, and 2 others depending of your spec) that you will be able to purchase.

The main factor of this change will be the price drop on Runed Orb.

Publicado por Herecius

Ok this is just wierd...

Didn't Blizzard realize they made a mistake in the sunwell patch when u could buy stuff equal to BT for the badges from heroics?

I thought (and i think i have read somewhere by GC or someone...) that blizzard was going to make WotLK raids a real progression.

And if this goes live... what progression do we have? UK hc>Argent coliseum...

Bai-Bai Naxx Ulduar EoE OS.

They did indeed, but Argent Coliseum is NOT equal to Sunwell. People did not stop raiding TK just because you could buy BT-equivalent stuff with badges.

If Blizz aims to corrent their own perceived mistake in the Sunwell Patch, than Icecrown will simply have its own badge tier, while everything else will stay with Triumph badges. At least, that's what I hope happens.

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Patch 3.2 - New emblem system

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