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No alliance progression in Cataclysm.
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Dragoonman
Well think about it, if the night elfs get the world tree back.... that means that they will be immortal again.... and that means.....
The horde would get pwned.
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Adamsm
Well think about it, if the night elfs get the world tree back.... that means that they will be immortal again.... and that means.....
The horde would get pwned.
Their only immortal in that they can't die by age.... a sharp or blunt object through the skull will still work.
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chase123
An alliance fan refering to the horde as nazi's. Thats funny, since its the allies who put up the concentration camps.
Oh for the love of effing all that is good and holy in the world. I should have guessed some one would get his pantys in a twist over this.
Draeneis bringing the Burning Legion to the Orc homeworld
= Genoside of the Draenei, Sacking of Stormwind, Invasion without provocation
That sounds betters lol.
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Adamsm
Draeneis bringing the Burning Legion to the Orc homeworld = Genoside of the Draenei, Sacking of Stormwind, Invasion without provocationGul'dan betrayed the Horde to Medivh/Sargeras; by the time the Old Horde hit Azeroth, the Legion had already turned away, believing the Draenei were wiped out and no longer an issue. So, while the first part works... the rest doesn't; the Horde was betrayed by it's own, not the Exiles.
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Mitokok
I have a feeling that Cata will be a dynamic expansion, sure the Horde begin by taking a large amount of territory, however Garrosh is pretty volatile, he will probably overextend his reach and then get pwned by the allys and pushed out of certain lands.
At least I think it'd be cool if something like that happened.
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taurenmoo812
Draeneis bringing the Burning Legion to the Orc homeworld = Genoside of the Draenei, Sacking of Stormwind, Invasion without provocationGul'dan betrayed the Horde to Medivh/Sargeras; by the time the Old Horde hit Azeroth, the Legion had already turned away, believing the Draenei were wiped out and no longer an issue. So, while the first part works... the rest doesn't; the Horde was betrayed by it's own, not the Exiles.
So your saying theres no accountability for the draenei having landed on draenor is what had kil'jaeden use the orcs as weapons to kill the draenei? Your saying he would have done it anyway if they hadn't landed there?
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Adamsm
Draeneis bringing the Burning Legion to the Orc homeworld = Genoside of the Draenei, Sacking of Stormwind, Invasion without provocationGul'dan betrayed the Horde to Medivh/Sargeras; by the time the Old Horde hit Azeroth, the Legion had already turned away, believing the Draenei were wiped out and no longer an issue. So, while the first part works... the rest doesn't; the Horde was betrayed by it's own, not the Exiles.
So your saying theres no accountability for the draenei having landed on draenor is what had kil'jaeden use the orcs as weapons to kill the draenei? Your saying he would have done it anyway if they hadn't landed there?
No, the genocide of the Draenei would have never happened if Kil'jaeden hadn't found them on Draenor.... but, you can't blame the Draenei for the Orc invasion of Azeroth; that was all on Gul'dan and Medivh/Sargeras.... though, for all we know, they would have found them eventually, and ended up converting all the races of Draenor to the Legion, which means there would have been no redemption.
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taurenmoo812
I'm not blaming the draenei for the events after kil'jaeden left the orcs to there own devices, but it was the cataclyst them being there. If Kil'jaeden hadn't found them there, then the orcs would not have been used by the legion to kill the draenei, thus Gul'dan would never have made the pact with Medivh/Sargeras, thus the dark portal would never have been made and thus the demon blood crazed orcs would never have come to azeroth.
Agreed though, that the legion probably would have found draenor and either destroy it, or convert the orcs to demons for there own.
Edit: Well what you know, me and dark agreed on something... go figure.
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Orranis
Er, 3/4 of Horde don't want Garrosh taking over.
for gods sake some one show me some proof of this I've had friends go Horde and they say people are looking forward to Garrosh if your going to say something have references to back it up. From what I've heard a nice chunk of Horde
WANT
Garrosh as warchief for what he brings in PvP wise
Meh, I disagree with making up statistics (Though 67.89% of them are made up on the spot), but it is true that a good majority dislikes Garrosh.
Personally, I see this all from an unbiased "would it make a good story" perspective, so it doesn't affect me.
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Adamsm
Er, 3/4 of Horde don't want Garrosh taking over.
for gods sake some one show me some proof of this I've had friends go Horde and they say people are looking forward to Garrosh if your going to say something have references to back it up. From what I've heard a nice chunk of Horde
WANT
Garrosh as warchief for what he brings in PvP wise
Meh, I disagree with making up statistics (Though 67.89% of them are made up on the spot), but it is true that a good majority dislikes Garrosh.
Personally, I see this all from an unbiased "would it make a good story" perspective, so it doesn't affect me.
Probably getting closer to 50/50 by this point.
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taurenmoo812
You have the horde, gaining the bad-ass type leader Garrosh Hellscream who is acting like a real leader
Sooo, waging pointless, stupid wars while a f*cking mad Aspect, the Elemental Lords and maybe even a certain tentacled demigod wreak havoc on the world is "acting like a real leader"? If at all, Garrosh and a certain absolutely orc-
loving
someone will lead their respective factions to a certain doom. I hope they both get horribly screwed over the course of the expansion, or at least stop being idiots who behave like kids.
Well I'm just hoping for the first option, to make people realise what a pair of morons they both really are.
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Adamsm
and being stuck in all this Thrall loving nostalgia is just foolish.
Because Thrall's actually done stuff worth being loyal for. He is actually a noble leader. There's little reason to hate him.In the same thread though; Thrall is too perfect, he just so perfect it's boring. I like that he's heading north to fight the Firelord and bringing back his actual Lore-bad assary instead of sitting on said ass in Orgrimmar all day long.
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