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Kommentar von 8004

i think it depends on the proc rate onthe enchant. if its a regular proc, i'd say go with the mongoose enchant. however, for now at least, get the dual wield with 2x +15 enchants.

Kommentar von 8253

To be able to learn this enchant you need to have an honored reputation with the timbermaw's. I found the easiest way to get here is to grind the timbermaw's in the upper camp of felwood and if possible get in a group to do it since that makes farming faster.

Also at friendly you recieve the +25agi enchant from the timbermaws which is a big money maker for enchanters.

Kommentar von 5918

Any one know how much this enchant can go for on average? Also, would you recomend this enchant over fiery for the 49 BG?

Kommentar von Thottbot

This, along with +str weapon, Healing power to bracer, and mana regen are all new via the 1.6 patch...

They are obtained from reputation gains from Argent Dawn, Furblogs and Wildhammer clans i believe.

Kommentar von Thottbot

The enchant is sold by a Timbermaw furbolg called Meilosh. You have to be Honored with Timbermaw to get it and it's a limited ammount of 1.

Kommentar von Thottbot

Vessper, you�re not paying for the press of a button, you�re paying for the immense effort it took to be able to buy the recipe.

So the person who took it upon himself to get the recipe is greedy? How about the one who expects to get all this for next to nothing?

If someone brings the mats for the enchant, he most likely bought them at the AH with somebody else making the profit there. Recipes such as Crusader, Lifestealing, etc. easily cost 100g at the AH. Unless the enchanter charges some money for this "simple click of a button", he�s getting the short end of the stick.

Kommentar von Thottbot

I love how all of you are arguing with the enchanters. I for one, am not an enchanter, but I TOTALLY agree with them, and that they should charge money for enchants. How else are they supposed to get money? besiders they used their time and money to get that high, and they are earning it back right now.

Now, most proffessions can make things for others too, such as leatherowrking-tailoring-blackmsiting. Let's say someone gave you the mats to make an Arcanite Reaper, since you had farmed the plans for 2 days and finally gotten it. Would you say, sure, I can do it for free, or would you charge like 20 gold? I definitatlly would charge them, because I worked to get it.

I'm an alchmeist, and I charge pepole for Arcanite Transmutes. It's the same thing as doing enchanting (except it does have a time limit), but I'm not about to do it for you for free, even though it is just a click of a button, unless you are my friend or guildie. I doubt that all of you would do it for free too, when people are willing to pay money for it. Your just throwing away money then, and that's so plain dumb.

Just my 2 cents

Kommentar von Thottbot

Incredible lack of consideration by some people here. I am an enchanter, but I'm NOT a hyppocrit. I chose enchanting cos I knew it was the hard way but wanted to take control over it. I'm being perfectionist with my char so I'm attempting to collect all the recipes there is for any possible price, and main reason for sure isn't to make profit. Most enchanters want to make profit so they had money for their craftable epics/rares, epic mounts etc. but I'm over that - I got epic mount on both my chars and can't really use money on anything (except maybe prices like 400g for +3int type of things, not my thing) since I'm not going to make new chars on this server or if I am, not in more than six months.

Now you probably think I'm on the side of this group who expect to get their enchants for less than 10g if they have mats? Grrrrrr, makes me furious :p

I've raised the skill, got the rod, farmed for AGES to obtain certain recipes and also used at least 500g for em from AH and ofc wasted an eternity by idling in Org advertising my enchanting gifts when raising skill. No matter if I need money or not, YOU do NOT deserve the service for no or low price. I rather take the 20g-40g from you and give it to next lev15 guy who asks money for respeccing than do it for free. Still, the main reason for the work I've done for my profession is because I love to make business in wow, checking ratings and all the time changing prices of reagents. I didn't enjoy getting the stuff only to have full list of recipes or to get "thx" from customers but to be the best marketman on corners of Orgrimmar. It's great to see I made 10g profit (due to great AH skills though) and still obtain good image of myself in eyes of the customer -> he'll come back to me.

To the one who said that 90% of enchanters get help from guild is utter crap. I know several enchanters, that's more than 10, and none of em has got ANY help from guild, maybe someone has got free arcanite transmute from a friend or something similar but seriously don't even start talking about enchanters not doing their job alone.

I don't have enough experience with blacksmithing/lworking to give any real opinions about those, but at least tailoring and alchemy (and obviously all gathering profs) are ri*!@#ilously easy to raise to 300 with little or no money at all lost in process. With runebags & certain pots you can even make tiny profit, depends a lot on server though, not to forget regular mooncloth/arcanite transmute timers that produce you on avg 5g per 2d for "just clicking a button". That's not much like with professional enchanters/hammersmiths (or cheatprof mining) but there really is no risks in business, you aren't losing much money at any point.

I'd like to call enchanting real men's profession, without being sovinistic at all of course. Risks=money lost at many spots and huge time wasted on farming/advertising/AH-observing are all huge factors in making the prof the worst option out there. After a lot of work you might be able to get back on your feet though and eventually make some profit if you play your cards right and that's exactly why I love it.

I totally agree with the one who said he's taking 100g+mats for this. If market allows this, why the hell not? On my server too many have honored with timbermaw though so I'm only taking ~15g, but not cos I'm nicer than 100g guy - I'm just forced to do this. This also reminds me of the armorsmith who said he'd need to do 80x lionheart helm to get back on tracks. You really must be trying to act too nicely or just don't care about money or making business. I assume you've used at MOST 1200g, probably less, to raise your skill which would only make your craftingcosts 15g. On my server there's only one on server who does the helm and his costs are 90g+mats. He can do it and he'd be dumb not to because he still has tons of people lined up for it. In words of rightfulness lionheart/bottomless bag recipes are probably the only ones that shouldn't have lame craftingcosts (like 150g+ for lionheart, 60g+ for bottomless) because getting those has been totally lucky. Almost all other recipes however can be farmed OR only drop for guilds. Being only +15agi recipe holder in server has every right to ask 1000g craftingcosts if he wants to, nothing immoral about it to me.

This got way too long and off-topic, not to mention how tired I am, hopefully someone still made sense out of this short story.

Kommentar von Thottbot

In spite of the fact that I am attempting to post without taking sides on the topic of whether an enchanter (or anyone else) should charge for a service, I figure I�ll be flamed by someone. Anyway, here are some observations on the use of the term �economy� and the related attitudes on the �right� to charge a fee in the posts to date:

Definition of economy: �The system or range of economic activity in a country, region, or community� (in this case, WoW). The WoW economy is unique from most market economies in that: 1. it is almost completely unregulated, 2. the goods and services sold are limited, and 3. the ability to differentiate goods and services is very limited. Under these conditions, all prices are, by definition, are market driven. The price of an item depends on the tastes, income and elasticity of demand of the customers. If a high demand item/service is in short supply, that item/service will cost more than one than a low demand/high supply item/service. The WoW economy is subject to all of the normal micro and macro economic influences.

What does all of this mean? If you are an enchanter, you can charge whatever you want for your services, but your success may be limited if there are other enchanters around to provide the service. You can even collude with other enchanters and create a monopoly by agreeing upon a price that everyone will charge. If you are a customer, pay whatever you are willing to for an enchanter�s service. If you think it is too high, don�t pay and look for other options. What this means above all is that all of you should quit wasting time arguing the merits of your point of view on this board and go play the game that we all enjoy so much.

Kommentar von Thottbot

Here's the one and only reason why enchanters will sometimes charge for just clicking a button to perform the enchant.

Are you paying attention? Good. Here it is...

BECAUSE THEY CAN

Don't like it? Fine. Make an enchanting alt and try to build him up to the point where he can do this enchant. Enjoy spending a week or five working on an alt just to save a few gold.

In the meantime, I'm going to be charging for every enchant and people will be buying it.

Don't like it? Fine. Whine and moan until you're exhausted, I'll still be charging for it when you're done throwing your fit.

If someone performed an enchant for you for free then they did you a FAVOR. You should thank that person and recognize your good fortune instead of assuming that you're entitled to free candy from everyone because you're so cool.

End of story.

Kommentar von Thottbot

Bronprondamus, as a hunter considering this enchant automatically placed on all weapons, would you use a one-handed weapon, or a two handed-weapon. And why?

Kommentar von Thottbot

Why is everyone talking about general enchanting and not about the specifics of the +15 agility enchant? This should be a discussion on the pros/cons of the +15 agility. Talk about a waste of time - reading through all this crap and not find any useful information.

Kommentar von Thottbot

A great enchant honestly, my damage and crit has been improved to a noticable level on my rogue when applied to my Core Hound tooth. As for an off hand enchant, this would have to be the best for a melee class using 1h'ers. Crusader would be better for the main hand where proc rates are higher, a good example would be a sword rogue using the brutality blade in his/her main hand with crusader and a core hound tooth in off hand with +15 agil. A perfect combo for some very high DPS. Anyways enjoy the enchant all you hunters and rogues and possibly warriors!

Kommentar von Allakhazam

this doesnt say what enchanting level you have to be to get it like 300....so when or what enchanting lv do you get this?

Kommentar von Allakhazam

My main (a Rogue) is on the Gilneas Server, and i was wondering if anybody can do this and what it would cost.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

roughly a week's worth of grinding to get this. Leveled twice while grinding nothing but furbolgs. Once you get it you're screwed, because you need to get the MATS for it. Mind you, you also have to get the mats for the RUNED ARCANITE ROD. I don't know about the rest of you, but on Suramar, NO ONE HAS A ARCANITE ROD! So yeah, fun stuff, I'm not saying it isn't worth getting, I mean....when I FINALLY get the mats for the rod and this enchantment times 2 (dual wielder here). Then I'll be as happy as a clam. I just see myself doing tons of instances to get the money to make this dream a reality

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Can anyone do this on Bronzebeard Horde side? I've been waiting for 3 weeks trying to find someone :/ PST Kuriel if you can.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Which rod does this chant need?

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Do you need honored or revered to get this enchant?

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I can now do this on the Doomhammer server, send me a tell or in game mail and id be happy to work something out with you, took for freaking ever to get it,and a ton of gold to make the rod....but i think it was worth it, use it a ton in the guild...

Kommentar von Allakhazam

This enchant will add:

0.75% to Dodge
0.75% to Crit
0.07% Damage Reduction
+30 Armor

+30 Ranged Attack Power

Kommentar von Allakhazam

At level 70 for a hunter this is about .375% to Crit, 0.75% if you do 2 Weps (30AGI).

I am not sure what %crit is for other classes is for AGI

Kommentar von Allakhazam

where do i get this enchat i never see recipe at AH for sale how do i get i am getting close to being able to get so i would like to now

thanks

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Where do you get this?

Kommentar von Allakhazam

According to the AH average for materials for this enchant listed here on Allakhazam, it adds up to about 100 gold. Actual cost varies by realm.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

290 enchanting to use this.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

this one is going on the offhand :]

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Can this be enchanted on 2H weapons? im a 58 hunter on Kil'jaeden (Horde) and want this on my Barbarous Blade!

Kommentar von Allakhazam

So. For a lvl 19 twink rogue, this means +1.5% crit chance. Exactly.

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lvl 63 Draenei Shaman
lvl 19 Twink Gnome Rogue

Kommentar von Allakhazam

What is the average price of this enchant?

Kommentar von Allakhazam

how much +15 agility for? .75-1% crits chance right?

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Very bright. Neonish. Looks cool.

If you need it, horde side, on stormreaver. PST Tyche.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Timbermaw Furlbogs .... 5rep per kill of the other furbogs.

Winterspring or Felwood

25 points for the chief though. Other then the first quest giver outside of the tunnel and Meiloch at friendly (give her 30 runecloth for 100 rep) there is no other way to get faction then killing....have fun 8(

Kommentar von Allakhazam

On Suramar I know of 2 chanters that have this at a fair price. Shadowwizard (alt is shadowalt) and Optimise. Both reputable and willing to do non-guild enchants. (neither are my guild)

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Nice warrior enchant!
on 2 Bone Silicing Hatchet you can have nearly 3%crit chance!

Hatchets:Knochenzersplitterndes Kriegsbeil

Kommentar von Allakhazam

you need honored

Kommentar von Oxalus

This won't be available in Classic until Phase 3.

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