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Kommentar von 1699

Here is the short story...

Go into the cave and find Emberstrife (https://www.wowhead.com/classic/npc=10321). He is all alone so don't worry about ads. Have the guy who is making the key, use the unforged seal in the water below the island (out of the aggro range of the dragon). Ideally, the same guy who needs to forge the key will also aggro/pull/tank the dragon...with others healing and helping with DPS.

Get the Dragon down to 10% health and then everyone stop attacking...the guy who is trying to forge the key needs to use the mind control orb on the dragon. (Note: if your a hunter/warlock you should dismiss your pet before this fight...cause the dragon becomes a pet once mind controlled.)

Once mind controlled, then use the first spell on the pet bar (orange block with with a black dragon on it), and cast the spell such that you hit the seal on the floor. If you mess up and he breaks MC...just recontrol the dragon with the mind control orb.

The rest of the party should wait for the all clear (key needs to be forged) before finishing the dragon off. In the mean time just keep that guy healed. You can and should mana up while the dragon is under Mind Control.

Once forged, then you loot the seal on the ground.

Hope this helps. I did it with 4 people, two 60 Shamans, a 60Hunter, and a 55 Druid. A shaman and the druid healed, the other Shaman tanked and forged, and the hunter just DPSed.

Final note: If you happen to be killed after you make him cast his forging spell but before you can loot the object, the forged seal object will remain long enough that you can run back from the grave yard and it will still be there.

Kommentar von TheOnyx

If multiple people are doing this quest at the same time, they can all place their unforged seals on the ground. Only one person has to mind-control Emberstrife and use the correct spell to forge them. Since the attack must hit all of the seals, it is recommended that you place them all together.

If by some chance you miss one of them, someone else can mind-control him and try again. When I did this quest, it appeared that the attack you need to use in the pet bar (the left-most one) was usable once per mind-control, rather than having a cooldown.

Kommentar von 17065

This quest is confirmed by a GM to be bugged as of 2007/02/04 (patch 2.0.6). You can't hand it in to Vaelan, and the GM's can't do anything about it.

Kommentar von emoslaya

Also had this issue and the kill mobs suggestion works we did have to kill alot of them but it did the trick

Kommentar von topsub

I also confirm this bug after we finish the quest and tried to talk to him again we couldn't but i happen to have an extra seal that i traded to him and it worked so he could turn the quest in.

This is on 4/8/2007

Kommentar von Bendora

The problem I get is "You have no target". While I select Emberstrife at 2354 health left... I do this fight without my pet (warlock). But I just can't MC Emberstrife. All I get is "You have no target".

Kommentar von 27054

Soloed as 70 warrior arms

Kommentar von 40431

Did all this last night. Got all three Gems as a 70 Prot Warrior with some help from guildies. Soloed the dragon for the flame breath. The quest is still bugged as of 4/29/07 but If you pick up another Unadorned Seal of Ascension you can hand it in and get your key.

Kommentar von Caje

Im getting the You have No Target problem as well. I get him to 11% and then try it, maybe that isnt low enough? Who knows, but its frustrating.

Kommentar von Nietchze

Just after midnight 05/05/07 (Happy Cinco de Mayo! !) I picked up the final gem stone off the last boss. I had the other 2 and an unadorned seal of ascension in my bank for at least a year.
After we killed last boss & I got my last gem I hearthed back to Shat & picked up the other pieces from my bank.
Went back & solo'd my way to Vaelan. I didn't see any yellow ? above his head but he did talk to me & I was able to hand in my pieces (even the ones that were over a year old) without any issue.

I should note that on the run to the boss I did see a second unadorned seal & when I tried to loot it I got the msg stating I can't carry any more of those (cause I already had one in the bank)

So. . . not sure if it's still bugged or not but I was able to do it OK as of tonight.

Kommentar von 52665

Further to the bug workaround, I had an Unadorned Seal of Ascension in my pack, and girlfriend had the forged seal ready to hand in.

Traded her my non-soulbound unadorned seal. Walked up and was mind probed. Sounded like vaelan was starting the whole quest line again for my girlfriend but then BAM, she was able to hand it in and get her UBRS key. traded my unadorned seal back and everyone was happy.

~raab.rexxar

Kommentar von Thottbot

After several attempts buggered due to various reasons, and no comments here with instructions I thought I'd try.

When you're in his cave, stay on the bottom in the water. If you fight up top there are a bunch of LOS bugs as stated previously. Just pull it down and it'll work it's way around to you.

When the fight begins, cast your seal on the ground in front of it. Do your thing until it's almost dead and it lets you use your seal. Make sure your party knows to stop attacking it when it goes "blue" and is your minion.

For those who have no experience with mind control or summoned pets, there will be a channeling thing on your screen. This does not mean that he's doing the task he's supposed to, that is the time left on how long you will be in control.

Above your hotkey bar you will see some new spell icons. There should be 4 on the right side. The first one is something along the lines of "Dragonflight." That is what you want. Use that on the seal and it should drop control from the dragon after.

Finish the mob off and then loot the now "Forged" seal from the ground.

I hope this helps out.

Kommentar von Thottbot

2 things:

1. Do not place the seal before the fight. Mine was gone before i had Emberstrife mindcontrolled. You can place it easily at 20% of his health as well.

2. His respawned version's Firebreath was just as usable as the first one's. No 1-2h cooldown.

Kommentar von Thottbot

Emberstrife's respawn time is 5 minutes.

Kommentar von Thottbot

OK i finished this, i got my fordged seal. I did a whole UBRS run and jumped down to the quest guy. Vaelen. and no ? over his head... so I talked to him and he gave me a long talk about how i need to find a seal of ascension in the lower citidel to gain access to the upper and once i find it to come talk to him. finished conversation and no ? still. I am still on the quest it has a (complete) next to it.

I was still in a raid group but that shouldnt matter. What could i be doing wrong? I left my stacks of unfordged seals and orbs in the bank on accident could that have been the problem? Anyone confirm or have the same problem?

Kommentar von Thottbot

This hasn't yet been described well, so here goes.

Enter the BRS instance, kill mobs in the first room so you can go *right*. It doesn't matter if you use the drop or go directly below, you end up in the same place.

Now you have a slope upwards to your right (you're facing south), and more mobs ahead. Kill these, and the patrol that comes from the tunnel ahead/left, and go through that tunnlel (eastwards, with a wiggle).

Now you're where you can hug right and do a couple of drops to be at the left/right choice for Mother Smolderweb or the way to the troll area.

That's what you don't do, instead you kill the two groups of mobs in front of you. Now look up and left, you should see a lone 'Scareshield Infiltrator', this is actually Vaelan in disguise. Now to get to him....

You'll probably have to kill the next set of mobs just on the slope ahead, so do that. Now look LEFT and go into the dark and up the slope there, and hook around to jump up to where Vaelan is. He'll lose his disguise as you approach.

Kommentar von Thottbot

Okay, I just did this with one friend. I am a 60 Hunter, and it's soloable with a Hunter, but I'd bring someone else with you.

You need to plant the Unforged Seal of Ascension on the ground in the water, then get Emberstrife to very low health. She starts to slow down and you can outrun her real easily when she's at about 1/8 health.

At this point, put the seal on the ground in the water in her main lair. Then out run her a bit, and spam the Orb of Draconic Energy to MC her. The orb lasts about 45sec-1min, which is plenty of time. When you have her, face the Seal on the ground and use her ability called Breath of the Black Dragonflight, or something like that. Four abilities appear on the lower left of the screen, like pet abilities for a Hunter, and you can use them. Use this on the unforged Seal, and the seal will turn usable. Get out of mind control and kill her. Keep in mind, while you have her MCed, she will slowly regen life, so be quick about it.

Then you just kill her and loot the forged seal on the ground. It's easy.

Kommentar von Thottbot

Video: http://files.filefront.com/Forging_the_Seal_of_Ascensionwmv/;4506329;;/fileinfo.html

Kommentar von Thottbot

Dragon can be found 54,84 in a cave on Dustwallow march

Kommentar von Thottbot

So after my frustrations with this quest, I decided to add one key point that no one else mentioned. When you aquire the forged seal after completing the dragon aspect, you MUST RETURN TO THE NPC QUEST GIVER IN LBRS. That is where you return to when you need to hand in the completed quest. I know it seems simple enough, but so many people don't realize it since it is not mentioned in the quest outline.

Good Luck with the key!

Kommentar von Thottbot

If you are using CT Hot Bar and you have used the Break Bar apart feature, you can not see the Bar that has the buttons on it for Breathing on the Seal if you have turned off Pet Bars!

Kommentar von Thottbot

This is actually not hard as a mage, as long as u have improved frostbolt & evoc, I never used frost barrier or ice block once, only mana shield. I used two potions, major healing, major mana.

2 defeat:
Once into the cave, go into the water area in front of him, go to the right side, because once u hit him he traverses backward along the platform going out into the water and then comes down the right side. So if you get on the right hand side, about midway between where he first is and the very back of the platform, you can get about 2-3 hits off, before he even touches you, I recommended FB for the slowdown.
Next when he comes down, just continue FB, when he gets extremely close, Frost Nova, run back, FB and FB again(it really helps if you have Shatter Talent, but its not really required, just would take a little longer.

The key is to run a ring around the two entrances to the water basin. When you first come in, if you go straight down the VERY right hand side, there is the ramp that leads down into the water directly in front of him, if you take a left instead, there is a little cave like area, that drops off into the water, and leads out to the LEFT of his starting point, but near the right side ramp.

After you pulled him down the rightside of his platform, run up the very right water ramp and around to the other entrance to the water basin described above, and back where he first started, then back up the same ramp, repeat this procedure, essentially delayed kiting him until he's nearly dead. The great thing is when he comes down around the cave on the left path it takes him about 3 seconds that you can use to time another good FB.

The only real requirements I have for this are, about 7k mana. 1 major healing(in case u get hit, he hits for about 1500-1800), 1 major mana potion. Conjure mana ruby, and have Evocation talent(though most mages do).

After he gets to about 15-20%, drop the unforged seal, I droped mine on the right water ramp, and then FNova'ed him, then got him down to about 10%, then MC'ed. Use the spells(1st & 2nd) on the toolbar, u should be able to mouse over the seal on the ground while u have him MC'ed to see if it says Forged. I did the flames when the seal was right next to me, so it doesn't seem to hurt u. I would of course move him away from you before you release, because you will have to finish him off, looting the seal takes about 5 seconds.

Frost Bolt (Rank1) really helps if u have IMP FB, because u can tag him in under a sec, so u don't get to far ahead without hitting him, otherwise he goes into evade mode. Sorry for long commment, lol.

- Auricomd - Aggramar

Kommentar von Thottbot

Two people in my party attempted to do the quest at the same time. You can only forge one Seal per respawn.. If you let me respawn, you can do it again. No worries about a 2 hour cooldown.

5 minute respawn.

Kommentar von Thottbot

Emberstrife is able to be solo'd as the previous posters have noted.

Here are my notes on the battle as a Affliction/Destruction Warlock:

Emberstrife is easily feared. Mine was not resisted once. I could have done the whole battle fear kiting around the small cave but I found it easier to use the leadge as previously discussed. Do NOT use a pet as you will NOT be able to mind control Emberstrife if you have a pet. I died on my first attempt because of this.

My technique was to drop all my dots (Curse of Agony, Immolate, Curruption, and Siphon Life) on her and then jump off the ledge. By the time she worked her way around to me a couple dots had faded. I reapplied one, feared, and then put the rest on her. After all the dots were back on I ran up the ledge to rinse and repeat. Mana was not a huge issue because Siphon Life was able to make up for my losses due to Lifetaping.

It is best to wait till Emberstrife is around 20% life to drop the unforged seal. Once she is around 10-15% I was able to mind control her.
Note: If Emberstrife is feared when mind control lands she will remain feared. The timer for fear my break before or after the mind control timer is up.
Note: If you are hit while trying to mind control Emberstrife it will fail. It failed for me everytime I was hit. She hit me for around 800 in cloth. I'd assume mail users would be hit for around 600 and plate for around 400.

Once she is mind controled just have her flame the unforged seal and you're golden. Walk her away before you release because she'll immediately attack you upon release. I ran her away, released, then feared her and left the cave. Another person showed up for the Onyxia quest and I figued I'd be nice and let the dragon live rather than killing it and making them wait for the respawn.

Good luck in your adventures with dragonkin and may my lessons help whomsoever heeds them.

Kommentar von Thottbot

The seal can be only looted once, so if multiple people need the seal, they ALL need to put down their seals and they ALL need to be breathed on.

NOTE: The seal can be looted by anyone with the quest EVEN IF THEY ARE NOT IN YOUR PARTY
This means any random person there can go loot it before you do and you would have to do it all again.

This happened to me. I was doing the whole druid thing and then some guy waiting to do it after me, looted the seal right before I could even cancel the MC and go loot for myself.

Kommentar von Thottbot

i beat the dragon, i have the forged seal, but vaelin (not sure of spelling) in lbrs does not have the yellow ? when i go to him and i cannot turn it in, just wondering if the quest is broke on the area 52 server or if i'm missing something.

Kommentar von Thottbot

You do hand in to Vaelen .. but ...

I just talked to a GM and he said the quest is bugged and you need to have one of those drop everywhere ring things - the unadorned seal of ascension (like the previous posters said) or Vaelen goes on about other things and doesn't recgonize you.

I was just about to abandon my quest 'cause I didn't quite get that it would be something so simple but do NOT abandon your quest or destroy anything.

Once you've faced Emberstrife, go back to LBRS with your forged Seal of Ascension. Get to Vaelen but ... just make sure to pick up one of those ring things on the way in before you get to him and THEN he will talk to you. I just handed mine in.

(PS. The unadorned seals are tradable if you need someone to bring you one).

Kommentar von Thottbot

I just spoke with a GM and this is a current issue, of not being able to turn in. He said to get another Unadorned Seal for it to work in the meantime.

Kommentar von Thottbot

Me and some mates are all 70s and are seeing who can get full dungeon set 1 first soo i needed key.

Did it got the seal
but he wouldn't walkt to me!

Get Another Unadorned Seal Of Ascension he'll talk

Good Luck!

Kommentar von Allakhazam

This mofo of a quest glitches if you do it in a raid. Here's what you have to do: Be in a five man group. Pull Emberstrife down to the shallow pool, DO NOT PULL HIM TO THE SLOPE!, and get him down low. Once this happens and you see a message of "Emberstrife's will is flatering", scream bloody murder for your team to stop attacking and drop the Unforged Seal and Mind Control him with the orb. Once this happens, Left and right click instead of using WASD or the arrowkeys to move (if you do use WASD or the arrow keys, it pulls you out of Mind Control)and move him over in front of the Unforged Seal. There is a little Bar with 4 skills that is added once you mind control him, use the very far left one (Flame of the Black Dragonflight or something like that) and a blue fire will spray in front of Emberstrife. Then, right click on the effect in the top right hand corner or wait for the timer to expire. Now, kill Emberstrife all the way and simpley open your Forged Seal of Ascension. Then, take it back to the guy in LBRS and TA DA! You have your UBRS key.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

iirc, no quest is do-able in a raid.. if you need that much help, have some friends come unpartied.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

the posts and repeated walkthroughs are nice and all but left out the answer to the question that probabaly everyone wants to know.

->IS THIS DOABLE IN RAID?<-

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Warlocks can solo this one with Curse of Doom and Fear. Everything you have to do is Curse of Doom->Fear->Fear->Fear->Curse of Doom->Fear.... Maybe you have to use First Aid sometimes if you cast Fear too late and it manages to hit you. You have enough time to put the seal on the ground while it is feared, no need to hurry relax :)

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Did the Emberstrife part easily with 60 Rogue (me), 60 Priest and 56 Warrior. Got him down to around 25% when I placed the unforged seal on the ground then a little bit later I mind-controlled him with the orb to forge it.

You can take Emberstrike with 2 people, but it's harder.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

i solo him with my hunter lvl60 (without pet) for UBRS key quest... easy kite, can trap and slow.
on 5% i MC him, use him on Seal then kill this dragon and loot quest item

Kommentar von Allakhazam

make sure you have an unadorned seal in ur bags
u will then be able to complete it

Kommentar von Allakhazam

thanks very much i read this on another forum and tried it just now and i was able to hand in and finish it

thanks

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Above poster got almost everything right. Once you mind-control the dragon, make sure you're facing the seal you set down on the ground, and use Flame of the Black Dragonflight from the minibar you get. You can go over the seal on the ground to see if it's forged.

Again, you must click the icon to make the seal Forged. You only get 1 shot at this, so dont miss :)

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Use it while fighting rend and a big dragon will be summoned ,heal everyone for 5000 hp and help you kill rend ^^

Edited, Jul 21st 2006 at 8:19pm EDT by zregern

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Ok correction, when going to turn in this quest make sure you have another seal of ascension on you and in your bags. That will be the only way you can turn the quest in.

Edited, Feb 26th 2007 8:02pm by DeviantSyn

Kommentar von Allakhazam

No one wants to help me kill emberstrife so i went to emberstrife. First i went to the cave outside and clear some mobs outside. I went in and hibernate/starfall pulled him outside then root/starfire him until hes 7% then drop the unforged seal and then mind control him while he is rooted then breath the fire on the unforged seal.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Great guide and info here, did the quest first time. Had trouble getting a group, asking in my guild was a distaster nobody wanted to help so i left them and went back to my old one.

Anyway took ages to get a group together i paniced a few times as i thought i messed it up. Respawn of the dragon is 10 mins so its too bad.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

If Emberstrife's action bar doesn't show up while you're mind controlling him, just use Ctrl+4 to activate the Flame of the Black Dragonflight (works like a pet action bar).

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Note to all you 70 hunters out there who, like me, have been soloing this quest.

Bring a friend to tank him. When you have to mind control him with that thingy, you cannot have your pet out.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Could MC him, but couldn't use his spell abiltiy to forge the key.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Solo'd this quite easily as lvl 60 Druid, pull her out of cave with Moonfire, root, moonfire, starfire, repeat, innervate, repeat. =P

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Is this quest still bugged? I have completed everything up to this point and when I try to break the dragons will it seems to be bugged. I get the dragon down to 20% health then pop the seal and at 10% I try to capture his will. It seems to work up to this point then after i channel his will down he turns red and attacks me. I kill him but unable to loot anything and nothing new in inventory. I am not too sure if I am doing this quest right. Any help would be very benificial.

Thanks

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Just done all quests for the key solo, emberstrife was really easy, elemental tanked and at 10% used the MC item.

The hardest part of all were the pack of 3 ogres lvl 56 before the ogre boss in lbrs, they have a lot of hp (16k) and hit hard (400 on 8k armor), if u are not a healer class I recommend to bring other member to help.

The drop rate of the gems were nice... only had to kill troll boss twice

Kommentar von Allakhazam

60 lock... I was able to solo him, tho it was pretty difficult... I'm full into demon for my felguard and when doing this part of the quest, it is impossible to Mind Control him if you have a pet or, OR even if you try to Demonic Sacrifice your pet prior to trying to do the MC'ing... since I didn't want to waste the Mind Control charges by trying various ways of fighting him w/ a pet and getting rid of the pet before taking him over, I was only faced with that situation once..

My Felguard sacc'ed buff, Touch of Shadow, I believe, kept me from being able to take control of Emberstrife. I kept getting the message 'I already have a pet' or something to that effect.

Also, since sometime recently, Mind Controlled mobs aren't showing their action bars, at least they didn't come up for me... 5 times they didn't show. I tried to use the default key bindings to cast the Flames of the Black Dragonflight, however the only spell he would cast was a reddish flame, and it wouldn't affect the seal that I'd placed on the ground...

I died 4 times attempting this part of the quest, because eventually while I was trying to find and make him cast the right spell on the seal, the Mind Control would run out and he'd turn back on me...

Now, I have no more Mind Control charges, and only 1 more seal charge(to drop it on the ground)... all because Emberstrife's 'pet action bars' would not show up after I took control of him. I submitted a ticket about the completely annoying failure and got the generic email that they'd look into it, but since I've heard nothing.

After reading down some, thankfully I read the post By: KEmperor saying he was able to abandon the quest and pick up the orbs and seal charges in LBRS with no problem... so to LBRS I go...

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Ok, so the first time I did this quest, I screwed it up. We all ran outside the cave, and then ran in to try it again. This time I mind controlled him and went to use the breath, but the spell was on cooldown. Tried 3 more times, waiting a while for the spell to cooldown, didnt work.

Eventually I ran out of charges. I was very disappointed, because I had read on a previous post here that you would have to go gem hunting again.

But I went back to the guy the next time my guild raided LBRS, abandoned the quest, and was able to restart. He gave me a box with the 5 orbs and 5 unforged seals. Went back and was able to do it on the first shot.

So if anyone runs out of charges, don't worry, you dont have to kill yourself getting more gemstones, just go back and try again.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

As mentioned above make sure you are NOT in a raid. I did the quest in a raid, followed the instructions very carefully and it would not work. We then formed a normal group and I did it exactly the same as before and it worked that time.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

tank, dps, and a healer you should be set if your all level 60.

down her to 8% then place the seal then control her with the orb use the first button on the action bar and aim at the seal. then kill your healer with the dragon! haha kidding. To get out of MC just click on the seal to loot it... down the dragon

if you die and the seal is forged you have 5 mins to get back i believe... not sure

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Emberstrife is located in a cave in the far SE corner of Dustwallow Marsh. He's further SE than Onyxia's Lair. Lots of 41+ dragonkin in the area, but they should all be grey to you if you're high enough to get this quest.

You'll need a party, but if you've just finished LBRS, you should have plenty available. A 5-man group of anyone in their high 50s should be sufficient. You'll need a tank and a healer would be very helpful, but otherwise any class type will do. It's preferable to have the quest-holder (whoever has the Unforged Seal) not be the main tank.

Emberstrife is the only thing in the cave. A shallow lake (about waist-deep on a gnome) surrrounds the rocky peninsula on which he stands. You can circle around to where you can climb up the peninsula and attack him there, but don't. We did once and his proximity to the cave's ceiling caused sporadic "Target is not in line of sight" errors for our ranged-attackers.

Instead, face Emberstrife head-on. Vaelon will have given whoever has this quest 5 charges of something. (I didn't have it, but so I don't know the official name, but you'll have 5 charges of it.) The quest-holder will also have an Orb. The quest-holder should set the Orb up in his/her inventory so that he/she can easily use it when the time comes.

When everyone is ready, have the quest-holder throw down one of the 5 charges in the water in front of Emberstrife. Doesn't have to be right up next to him; anywhere between your shore and Emberstrife's peninsula will be sufficient. This will create a pulsating purple vortex.

Next, have one of your ranged attackers pull Emberstrife. Something low aggro like a gun/bow/wand is best. Emberstrife will fly to the back of the cavern and then back to the front, i.e. the path you'd take if you wanted to walk up to his position. (No, I have no idea why he doesn't just head straight towards you since he can fly.) Have the tank stand near the purple vortex and tank Emberstrife there. Once the tank has aggroed Emberstrife, everyone else can join in. Though not essential, try and keep Emberstrife in the vicinity of the purple vortex. Emberstrife hits moderately hard, but it shouldn't take long for a party of 57-60s to wear him down, particularly if there is a healer to keep the tank(s) healed.

When Emberstrife reaches about 15% health or so, everyone will get an orange text message that "Emberstrife's will is faltering". As soon as this message appears, everyone should stop attacking immediately and the quest-holder should start using the Orb on Emberstrife. (I don't know what the range requirement on the Orb is, so the quest-holder should probably try to stay reasonably close.) Timing is a factor.

If it works, Emberstrife will turn from hostile (red) to friendly (green) to everyone. The quest-holder should see some special menu bar pop up that controls Emberstrife. The quest-holder shouldn't have to do anything but wait while Embertrife automaticallys forge the Seal. Eventually the quest should register as being complete and the quest-holder should see the Seal change to the Forged Seal of Ascension in inventory. This may not all happen at once, so everyone should just be patient.

Eventually, Emberstrife will turn hostile again. Kill him. He drops almost nothing, but he can be skinned with 305 skinning. (You'll need some enchanted gear or Finkle's Skinner to do this.)

If Emberstrife doesn't turn friendly, he'll keep attacking. Before he wipes your party, go ahead and kill him. He only takes 10 minutes to respawn and Vaelan gave you 5 charges, so you can afford to mess up a few times.

At the end of this, I think you'll need to go one last time to Blackrock Spire to turn in the quest to Vaelan. Since that's just a little past the door to Upper Blackrock Spire, it's not far out of your way. Once you're done, Upper Blackrock Spire is now open to you. Congrats!

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I just did this last night, successfuly, and figured a better walkthrough of the entire event would've helped me not waste a few hours of my life. Enjoy.

1. The very first step of creating the UBRS keys is to gather these 4 items from LBRS
- Unadorned Seal of Ascension: random drop from mobs in LBRS
- Gemstone of Spirestone: random drop from Highlord Omokk
- Gemstone of Smolderthorn: random drop from War Master Voone
- Gemstone of Bloodaxe: random drop from Overlord Wyrthmalak

2. Once you have these 4 items, you must turn them into Vaelan in LBRS. He's located at the top of the slope that is right before the first wooden bridge. If you go to the very top of that slope, look left, you'll see a single orc at the very end of that flat area. That's Vaelan in disguise. He will transform back to his normal self when you get close. Speak with him. He says a few things and eventually lets you complete the 4 item Seal of Ascension quest. You now should get another Seal of Ascension quest which sends you to Dustwallow Marsh. Vaelan gives you a box containing (1) Orb of Draconic Energy and (1) Unforged Seal of Ascension. Both of these items have 5 charges which equates to 5 chances at getting your Unforged Seal, Forged. If you fail all 5 times you will have to go Gem hunting again.

3. Get a group of 5 or so capable people and head to Dustwallow Marsh. The quest, Seal of Ascension, describes how you must find the ancient drake known as Emberstrife and use him to forge your seal. The cave that this named 59-61 elite is in is located just south of Onyxias lair at the very southern part of Dustwallow Marsh.

4. Once your party has reached the cave where Emberstrife is located, go in and position yourself across from the plateau that he sits on. There should be a shallow lake between you and him.

5. Now the fun begins. What you're trying to accomplish here is to use Emberstrife to forge your Unforged Seal of Ascension. This is accomplished by a form of mind control, and using one of his abilities that pops up for you on the Unforged Seal. I'll detail this event.
- Make sure whoever is doing the Quest is not tanking. You have to do a couple things that should not be interrupted.
- Have someone with a ranged attack pull Emberstrife. Fight in the shallow lake as there can be issues with LOS and forging of the Seal.
- When Emberstrifes health reaches around 25%, the person who has the Unforged Seal of Ascension needs to use that item. When used you will see a purple orb type object floating a little off of the ground. This is the Unforged Seal of Ascension. It will only last for a couple of minutes, so its best to use that item when he's around 20-25% health.
- When Emberstrifes health reaches 10-15% everyone will see an orange emote stating "Emberstrife's will is faltering". At that time, everyone must stop attacking. I say again, stop attacking the drake. At the same time, the person who has the Orb of Draconic Energy needs to target Emberstrife and use the Orb. What this does is mind control the drake.
- The person who used the Orb should now have total control over Emberstrife. Position Emberstrife so that he is facing that Unforged Seal of Ascension that you placed. You should also have a minibar that pops up just above your main bar that contains 4 different abilities. You want to use the very far left one which is "Flame of the Black Dragonflight". Making sure that Emberstrife is facing the Unforged Seal of Ascension, use that ability. If done correctly you will see an icy blue cloud spew from Emberstrife. If you put your mouse over the Seal, if done correctly, it should now say Forged Seal of Ascension. Also note, Emberstrife can only be mind controled for the duration of the channeling bar that pops up. You do have ample time to do the event, however, once that bar is gone, you have to repeat the battle again.
- Once you have Forged the Seal, you can either right click on the mind control icon to cancel mind control or let the channeling bar run out. Once you return to your character finish Emberstrike and go right click on the Seal. You will receive the Forged Seal of Ascension at that point.
- The last step is to return the Forged Seal of Ascension to Vaelan in LBRS. You then are given the Seal of Ascension which opens the door to UBRS. Congrats!

Edited, Tue Jun 28 09:49:08 2005

Kommentar von Allakhazam

We had the same situation - no question mark. The workaround was to have a pristine Unadorned Seal of Ascension with you. We were able to get the key after that :)

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I've been waiting over 35 minutes for this Emberstrife kid to respawn...
Anyone else?

Kommentar von Allakhazam

If you have a pet summoned, dismiss before you fight. You can't Mind Control him if you have a pet out.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I abandoned this quest because I couldn't find a group to get the dragon's breath. I figured I'd just get the quest again some other time.

BIG MISTAKE. Next time I went to talk to Vealen to get the quest again, he didn't give the quest. So basically, I can't get ever get the UBRS key now. I have opened a GM ticket, but GMs have never been able to help me so I don't see what the point is in wasting my time with this.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Quest is bugged will no longer work.

I have tried 9 times in every different spot in the cave to get it to work...
it never finishes.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Done it with 3 (priest, hunter, warlock). Good fun.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

when trying to complete the quest at vaelan today it didnt work, asked a GM if he could help and then it did - he said something like that this quest wasnt supposed to be done by 70˚ish chars and that therefore it sometimes happens that the npc gets stuck - so if you have the forged seal but cant complete the quest because vaelan doesnt show a questionmark - call 911 GM :)

Kommentar von Allakhazam

just did it with a 70 druid (me) and 67 rogue (brother) in less than an hour, collected all 3 gems with ease (War Master Voone was the hardest), went to Dustwallow, thanks to this webby did that part in less than 5mins, and got back to LBRS.

was lucky enough to get all gems in just 2 stealth run, Omokk was the only one unwilling to drop :>

now we're going to attempt to duo The Beast in UBRS, I want my Finkle's Skinner back! ;o

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Had a 60 druid (me), 60 hunter and 60 lock. Easy as pie because of one unmentioned tidbit so far... he's fearable. Muhahaha.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

UI's bug your mind control abilities. Turn off all UI's and you'll get the MC bar.

Edited, Jan 4th 2007 6:59pm by smileypcs

Kommentar von Allakhazam

i have the same problem i have finished the quest but cant hand it in
i contacted the gm's all i got was its broke read the forums and tell someone who cares , goodbye ...
was not happy with the responce

great game not
great customer service not

tried again today .... still broken .... and the gm's wont talk to me

windrunner server

70 ne warrior
63 ne hunter
62 draeni shammy
32 ne priest
32 human rogue

Edited, May 7th 2007 7:32am by vellia

Edited, May 7th 2007 7:52am by vellia

Kommentar von Allakhazam

so ez

Kommentar von Allakhazam

So I got the Forged Seal of Ascension from Emberstrife and the quest says "Complete" but I can't turn in the quest to Vaelan, he only utters his same old crap and no question mark above his stupid head either. Wrote a ticket to a GM, waiting for a response.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

confirmed = you need to kill some mobs to drop the Unadorned Seal of Ascension then return to the pnj and you'll get the ring

Edited, Feb 14th 2007 1:17pm by alpb

Edited, Feb 14th 2007 1:18pm by alpb

Kommentar von DeleteIncendius

Just did this quest on new Classic and it's changed a little bit.

The boss mind control is available once he's below 10%
Make sure you don't drop the Unforged Seal until right before you mind control him, because he might use his 1st ability on his own without mind control, which has a 10 minute cooldown.
You can do it with 3 60s. Healer might go oom if there's only 2
If you mess up somehow and need to reset, you can run backwards in the back of the cave. There's a bunch of room and no mobs.
His respawn timer is about 3-5 minutes.

Kommentar von Tenechek

In current Classic, this quest can't be done for several people at once. Even if you (and other group members) will place more than one seal, after using special ability, you'll get only one "forged seal", that can be looted (with gear icon on mouseover). The dragon has a 3-hour cooldown on his first ability after successful seal forging, so you'll need to kill him anyway and wait for 3-5 minutes to respawn, to forge the seal for the next group member.
Tested more than 5 times.

Kommentar von xFiercy

Just FYI, only one person at a time can do this quest.

Once a person MC's the dragon and uses the ability ("Flames of the Black Flight") the ability goes on a 3h cd. You have to kill the dragon to use the ability again.

If by any chance you run out of charges, you can use other people's charges. I ran out of unforged seals, so a party member dropped his, another MC'd and I was able to loot the forged seal. Also forgot to mention ember can resist your mc, it happened to me once.

I hope this helps!

Kommentar von phuqdup

Solo-able by moderately gear warlocks. Pet, dots and fear more than enough to take him out, just make sure to dismiss pet before mind controlling! Don't get greedy shadowbolting as it might break your fear.

Kommentar von dytster

Killed Emberstrife today in Classic in order to do the quest. It was just me, a fury warrior, and a holy priest. I was tanking in crappy tank gear (a mix between some pre-raid BiS damage items and very few tanking items) with dual wield, while the priest was in semi pre-raid BiS/leveling gear. We used a 1 mana potion, 1 healing potion.

What I'm trying to say is that he's not hard at all to kill, even with a small party.

Kommentar von Anoune

Soloable as a feral druid with a decent amount of pre-raid bis and a lot of patience.
Hot yourself, shift to bear form, dps until you're ~50% hp, then bash and run away. Cast hibernate when bash has less than 1.5 seconds left on the duration. Wait and let your mana regenerate while the boss is hibernating until bash is off CD, then hot yourself and repeat that process until the boss is at 10% hp. Bash and shift out of bear whether you're low yet or not, use the unforged seal, then wait until hibernate has about 5 seconds left and use the mind control orb. Position the dragon to breathe on the unforged seal and use its first ability. Move the dragon away from you, drop the mind control, re-hibernate it, and loot the quest item.

I didn't have to do it because my hit rating is high enough, but you could probably jump off the side of the platform if bash misses and you need to cast hibernate. The boss would have to run all the way around and give you plenty of time to get a cast off. Also, be polite and kill the dragon when you're done. The breath ability has a 3 hour CD and whoever comes along after you won't appreciate finding that out.

Kommentar von Voxxel

For 3-man or low on DPS,

Don't place the Ungeschmiedetes Siegel des Aufstiegs right before the fight as it will vanish after 2 minutes. We were stumbled upon this problem and realized it only when already mindcontrolled the drake. So I exited the MC, placed another seal on the ground and re-MC but the Forging ability called Flammen des schwarzen Drachenschwarms was already on cooldown. We had to kill the drake and wait for a respawn to get this quest done.

Save yourself the ~10 min respawn time and place the seal only when the drake gets low.

Kommentar von ovahkeel

For those wondering what to do if you use up all of your items from this quest, abort quest and go back to the guy in UBRS, he gives you a new box with 5 of each again to retry. No need to farm more crystals!

Kommentar von yeeziusthewretch

You gotte put the seal on the ground first, fight, mc at 10% then use the dragons ability. note: if you have a ui addon you may want to enable pet bar before the fight

Kommentar von TerribleAtGames

Almost soloable for my lvl 60 healing Priest. Kiting around DoTing Emberstrife, and throwing a Fear when I need to pass this dragon. Works until I get a fatal resist on my Psychic Scream with following death.

Got help from a Holy Paladin which gave me health support while I used the same tactic, and we managed to get our Seals of Ascension forged that way.

Tip: Cast dots and kite around, and a small group will do it fine. Avoid melee confrontation unless you have a full group backing up with tank, DPS and heal.

Kommentar von 19013

If you're hunter like me or have a pet, and doing this quest, before you use mindcontroll on dragon, don't forget to dismiss your pet. I failed my quest because of it. Tried to use it but nothing happened. Obviously, mind controlled dragon is your pet tho ;)

Kommentar von Datasnuten

Easily soloable as a warlock. Just chain-fear and refresh curse of doom on it.

Kommentar von Bearlz

Soloed pretty easily as a frost mage boost spec. He can be slowed and rooted so its a non issue to get him to 10 percent.

Kommentar von Gnidarmats

We did this on three in WoW Classic and noted that only one could loot the seal even if we all put our seals on the ground.

What we did is that we killed Emberstrife and waited 10 min. Then he respawned and we did the same procedure, so the second player could get the seal.

I was last out to get it at the third try, but I had already used all my 5 charges on my seal so it was gone in my bags. Another player in the group had 2 charges left on his/her seal and put it, then I could loot it. This means the seal in the bag is not personal for this quest.

Please note that you must really kill Emberstrife between the tries, if you run out to get him reset you will still have 3 hours CD on the Flame ability. But if he dies he respawns within 10 minutes.

So, have faith! :-D

Kommentar von WallHackJack

Is this bugged in TBC Classic? I've done all the steps, but can't seem to get Vaelan to accept the turn in.

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Reist zum Drachensumpf in den Marschen von Dustwallow. Sucht den alten Drachen Aschenschwinge auf und bekämpft ihn ohne Gnade, bis sein Wille gebrochen ist.

In genau diesem Moment müsst Ihr das ungeschmiedete Siegel des Aufstiegs vor der großen Bestie hinlegen. Dann müsst Ihr schnell die Kugel der drachischen Energie auf seine geschwächte Gestalt anwenden und die Kontrolle über seine geistigen Kräfte übernehmen. Kontrolliert die Bestie und zwingt die Flammen des schwarzen Drachenschwarms auf das ungeschmiedete Siegel des Aufstiegs!

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Nur wenige der schwarzen Drachkin außerhalb der oberen Zitadelle sind in der Lage, das Siegel mit ihrem eigenen Flammenatem zu schmieden. Wyrmthalak ist ein solcher Drachkin, doch sein Wille kann nicht gebrochen werden.

Ihr müsst zum Drachensumpf in den Marschen von Dustwallow reisen. Dort werdet Ihr einen alten Drachen namens Aschenschwinge finden. Seinen Willen müsst Ihr brechen, <Name>. Brecht seinen Willen und verwendet diese Kugel, sobald er geschwächt ist. Doch Ihr werdet nur wenige Sekunden haben, in denen Ihr seinen Geist kontrollieren und die Flammen anfachen könnt, mit denen das Siegel geschmiedet wird.

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