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siech0
Well I messed up the title :) Yippee!
I've tried looking all over and can't find anywhere that states what the Min and Max for stats should be
I do know that Defense cap is 540.
I believe I also read that Expertise Soft Cap is 6.5% (Minimal chance to be dodged) and Hard Cap is 15% (Minimal chance to be parried)
Please correct me if I'm wrong on Expertise caps.
What about:
Hit Rating
Dodge
Parry
Ideally is 32K HP(unbuffed) what you should shoot for, what would be the minimum?
Also, what order should the stats be worked on?
Defense
Stamina
Dodge
Parry
Expertise
Hit Rating
I could be way off on that order, just looking for some guidance here.
Lets assume these are numbers for a Raid
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Aris
hit rating > expertise rating for DK tanks. expertise does not effect spells, and a majority of our threat generation comes from spells.
Dodge > parry. The DR on parry is much more severe than dodge, not to mention you need more parry rating for the same amount of avoidance than dodge. You get more than enough parry from strength, so focus on dodge rating over parry rating.
first things first, get to 540def rating. thats the bare minimum to be a tank.
Personally i try to stay above 30k health unbuffed and then stack avoidance after i have reached that point.
For priority of stats, all DK tanking gear is going to have strength, stamina, and defense rating. So you don't have to prioritize those.
Hit rating (until your capped)
Dodge
Expertise (until your capped)
Parry
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svl007
hard to say minimums when you don't tell us what content you plan on running.
2nd 540 is a must, capping yourself for hit and expertise is a convinience most of the time, but a must when you're threat capping your dps.
that said the order i'd go is
defense till 540
stamina till you can take 2blows of the hardest boss in the content you are running without dieing (aka the 3rd one would kill you) this does include skills (think sarth in os)
after that it depends on which set you are forming
EH
stamina & armour
THREAT
expertise (till soft cap)
hit & expertise (after soft cap)
dodge
parry
the avoidance is to let you proc rs more
AVOIDANCE
dodge
parry
defense
lastly most of the times it gives better results to just evenly spread your stats. but when you are undergeared for the content (progressing in other words) you probably will want to stack stamina for the sole reason of being able to survive 2 hits in a row. I also advise you to have a talk with your rl and healers. to see if your tps is fine, how they feel you are staying alive. some healers prefer to heal a bag of hp, the other ones like to see the tank avoid some more hits.
as for the caps melee hit cap is 8% spell hit cap is 17%(not the same as melee one!)
dodge cap and parry cap are of no matter, bc you won't reach em anyway, just remember that DR on parry is worse then on dodge so if there is the option (gems fe) pick dodge.
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cheesechamp
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Some people are saying 30k is the minimum hp, I just wanted to point out that isn't true. I have been tanking naxx/os/uld 25 with 28.8k unbuffed with no problems at all.
that is all, just wanted to point out 30k isnt necessary
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Aris
Some people are saying 30k is the minimum hp, I just wanted to point out that isn't true. I have been tanking naxx/os/uld 25 with 28.8k unbuffed with no problems at all.
Never said it was a minimum, only that "Personally i try to stay above 30k health unbuffed". Key word being "personally", as in "my opinion".
Also i've noticed public perception of tanks is based largely on your health pool, and to me at least it seems people perceive you to be a better tank when you have over 30k health (people like big round numbers), and 30k looks/sounds like a whole lot more than 29k because it starts with a 3. Its the same reason everything costs 9.99, or 99.99 instead of just rounding off the price, because of perception. Not saying it actually has anything to do with anything, just that if your trying to build a reputation to get invites to raids, like pugs, perception is going to matter more.
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Aris
Bear in mind also, no DK tanking gear or Tier has ANY expertise on it until Ulduar drops, so unless you plan to sacrifice a ton of stamina gemslots or enchant sockets for expertise, I wouldn't advise gemming for it. You can get by more then adequately by being hit-capped with the base expertise from talents.
However you'll be set if you manage to get a hold of Inevitable Defeat.
The 25man naxx off set helm/shoulders has expertise. But i agree that you should be hit capped before you start worrying about expertise.
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