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13708
These legs are great! Great stats and sockets, can turn them either into Legplates of Wrath replacement or some great PvP-style legs with all that stamina.
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16420
Awesome pants! Can't wait for my server to come back up so I can get these gemed up.
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LowerDogma
Is it just me or do they look like the valor pants?
評論來自
Ansi
They match Ironblade Gauntlets from Hellfire Furnace perfectly, exactly the same skin.
評論來自
38832
This is part of the Tier0 (Valor) Look-a-like set:
Head - Hope Bearer Helm - Auchenai Crypts (Shirrak the Dead Watcher)
(NOTE: There is no Tier0 Look-a-like Helm, but this is a substitute.)
https://www.wowhead.com/cata/item=27408
Shoulders - Pauldrons of Brute Force - The Underbog (The Black Stalker)
https://www.wowhead.com/cata/item=24463
Chest - Unscarred Breastplate - The Slave Pens (Quagmirran)
https://www.wowhead.com/cata/item=24363
Wrists - Nexus-Bracers of Vigor - Mana-Tombs (Nexus-Prince Shaffar)
https://www.wowhead.com/cata/item=25956
Hands - Ironblade Gauntlets - The Blood Furnace (The Maker)
https://www.wowhead.com/cata/item=24387
Waste - Tenacious Defender - Hellfire Ramparts (Omor the Unscarred)
https://www.wowhead.com/cata/item=24091
Legs - Greaves of the Iron Guardian - The Underbog (Swamplord Musel'ek)
https://www.wowhead.com/cata/item=24456
Feet - Ironsole Clompers - Hellfire Ramparts (Vazruden/Nazan)
https://www.wowhead.com/cata/item=24064
Also looks good with this set:
Shield - Shield of the Void - Mana-Tombs (Pandemonius)
https://www.wowhead.com/cata/item=28166
評論來自
18550
Seven levels later and I'm still wearing them, thanks to really bad itemization the next pair of DPS plate pants that come along that are an actual upgrade to these (unless you dual wield) aren't until heroic or about 1,900 arena points. Doomplate isn't a real upgrade since with good gems the only edge they'd have is in crit by 5, but they'd lose on strength and stamina.
You need either the Gladiator's legplates
https://www.wowhead.com/cata/item=24547
or the Vanquisher's Legplates
https://www.wowhead.com/cata/item=30533
from heroic Mechanar to really replace these.
Grind for these, and when they drop spend the cash to get the jewel'd out very well, you'll be wearing these for a long, long time.
評論來自
174408
i hav been though this instance 9 times and i havnt seen it drop once. -Undeadz Ouel'dorei leader of Zeppelin Jumpers
評論來自
174408
im starting to think this thing will nvr drop for me :(
評論來自
261337
zeph
https://www.wowhead.com/cata/item=27408
looks nothing like
https://www.wowhead.com/cata/item=16731
. Im not talking about color im talking about shape.
評論來自
340139
Great piece for Death Knights (and other plate wearers) who are starting outland.
For DKs this piece replaces
Engraved Saronite Legplates
https://www.wowhead.com/cata/item=38669#
.
I socketed it with
Pristine monarch topaz
https://www.wowhead.com/cata/item=40053
in the 2 yellow sockets and a left over
Solid azure moonstone
https://www.wowhead.com/cata/item=23118
from JC lvling on my main.
評論來自
Kefra
Best in slot for twink 69 arms warrior or DK. They're best-in-slot for ret paladin as well from a pure DPS viewpoint; however,
these pants
are an interesting choice if you like the skin, or prefer a bit of intellect for those "oh-crap-where's-the-healer-I-guess-I'll-do-it" moments in BGs.
Edit (Patch 4.0.1)
: The aforementioned Ornate Leggings of the Venerated have been re-itemized into a Holy paladin item. (They used to have 35 Strength.) Thus, Greaves of the Iron Guardian are now best-in-slot for ret pallies as well.
Three sockets make these ridiculously good. How good?
+60 Strength
or
+90 Stamina
good.
Legguards of Brutalization
just can't compare once you have the gems you want socketed in these. (Armor pen is only good once you've got a lot, and I don't see much on the gear a 69 can wear. And if you want crit,
gem for it.
)
評論來自
Brownster
Picked these up while levelling my ret paladin and I'm still using them at level 73 in Northrend. Stuck three bold scarlet rubies in the slots bringing them up to 80 strength and as of yet I've yet to find a quest reward or instance drop that warrants replacing these.
評論來自
162269
Got these on my paladin tank yesterday, and slapped 3 x 30 stamina in them, I know I won't replace them for a while now
評論來自
453636
I had a hard time figuring out how I (mid 60's prot warr) was gonna gem these in order to replace my
current pants
, with the most notable difference being I would (not counting gem slots) lose 26 hit. Quite a chunk to be sure.
I worked it out though by slotting in 2 of
these green hit/dodge
gems in the yellow sockets, and
a +12 hit blue
one in the blue socket.
Counting the +4 hit socket bonus, I ended up gaining as follows:
+53 Armor
+6 Stam
+2 Hit
+12 Dodge
All at the cost of: -1 Str. Not too shabby, and considering the LK blue gems fit as well, these can be gemmed to last you up to Northrend's shores. Cheers!
評論來自
Allakhazam
+12 str, for me
評論來自
Allakhazam
This is a very nice pair of pants for a warrior to level with, infact they seem quite powerful for their level with the 3 gem slots.
評論來自
Thottbot
Got these yesterday, very nice pants, imba sockets and good overall rounded stats.
If you ever go to the underbog you should by all means pick these up, they drop nearly every time ive killed the boss.
評論來自
Thottbot
Got these and the pauldrons of brute force on the same run, was great. Might not ever go back to the bog after that lol. Anyway, great stuff, get either one or both if ya can, great tanking or dps stuff for wars. If ya havent noticed, these things are in a sort of set, im goin for them all! look like valor but like, bleached.
評論來自
Thottbot
Helm: missing (level 100 blue, TBC instance boss drop)
Shoulders:
Pauldrons of Brute Force
Chest:
Unscarred Breastplate
Belt:
Tenacious Defender
Legs:
Greaves of the Iron Guardian
Boots:
Ironsole Clompers
Bracers:
Nexus-Bracers of Vigor
Gloves:
Ironblade Gauntlets
評論來自
Thottbot
Try a quest and the drop rate, according to Thott, is 89%. it then takes me 4 hours to get 3, and 1 day to finish the quest. 2 lvls later. what a waste.
評論來自
Thottbot
lost these and pauldrons to a pally on the same run
評論來自
Thottbot
ran about 10 times got pauldrons havent seen these drop only that blasted knife!
評論來自
Thottbot
lost to a !@#$ing paladin
評論來自
Thottbot
Quite annoyed. Lost these on my paly to a warrior, who didn't really need them, being he had better. And what's the problem with losing plate to a paly? They can equip it, and likely put it to good use. What, are yous all on a server where ALL the palies are healing spec'd/holy and wear cloth,and they needed it to piss you off? In witch case, you likely deserved it.
評論來自
Thottbot
Yeah, its not like paladins need stamina or strength. Get a clue.
In addition to stamina, strength, defense, shield block, and hit rating, we also need intellect, mana/5, and spell damage.
Get a clue. We use all the stats that you do, and then some. Gearing for a paladin is a lot harder then gearing for a warrior, thanks especially to warriors like you.
評論來自
Thottbot
im a prot warrior, and trust me, everyone knows when a hunter takes rogue gear just like a pally takes warrior gear, pally's get all the plate items with healing on it or int, why warriors get all the plate items that dont have any healing but good tanking stats, IM SICK OF THIS CRAP, FREAKING PALLY'S TAKEN THOSE LEG TWICE OUT FROM UNDER ME, WTF, PALLY'S CAN GO HEAL BECAUSE NO ONE ELSE WANT THEM TO TANK OR DPS!
評論來自
Thottbot
and if your a pally surfing and u see my comment above and wanna say how @#$%ed i am, think again, coz this #$%^ is pissing me off and now im 66 those pant are *!@#ty for me, everyone knows that a Ret pally or prot pally are as useless as a used condom, when we raid all pallys have to do is heal and buff, thats all everyone want them to do!
評論來自
Thottbot
and yes i nearly broke my keyboard when that pally needed and won he 2nd time they dropped outta like 20 runs!
評論來自
Thottbot
These are amazing for a prot warrior or dps warrior. If you buy gold so as to have a real life and still play this game, or if you have a level 70 who can farm beaucoup bucks (that's French by the way), here is what you can turn these into:
tanking: dps:
841 armor 841
32 strength 32
12 agility 0
97 stamina 33
11 hit rating 19
0 crit rating 28
0 attack power 50
8 defense rating 0
I have never met nor know anything about protection paladins, but Blizzard did give them a talent tree called... "protection." Would a prot and retribution paladin post what these pants would look like optimally with blue quality gems and the new Leg Armor kits that require nethers and beaucoup bucks?
評論來自
Thottbot
actually paladins do have a taunt, and its ranged.
they are better multi target tanks than wars.
wars are better single targets, ala bosses.
評論來自
Thottbot
yeyea i like these for ret. i mean i would LOVE them for me ret pally, but if some warr tank keeps buggin the !@#$ outa us for it, and its 50xs better, sure let him get his mitts on it...this is goooooooood for warrs and pallys all around, cept for holy pals, but dont even get into those guys
評論來自
Thottbot
I have a Pro pally lvl 66 11k health 14kArmor these pants are awsome for stam add 3 +12 stam Gems and nethercleft puts me at +109 stam on these pants alone love em!
評論來自
Thottbot
What sucks is that im a 63 warrior on Lothar and got to this boss and i died before him. got rez and nearly all of my gear was broken this has happened to me before but i guess i gotten it stuck in my head that i need to repair before i do an instance. So one of r party members leave and the bring in a 64 warrior who has the crappiest armor ever. The legs drop we roll he gets a 30 so there is hope in my mind and then i roll a 9 and my heart broke. So after that i ran Slaves Pens and my chest dropped so it made up for the loss of the pants but still could have had the pants and chest in to runs
later Berdock lvl 63 warrior on Lothar
評論來自
Thottbot
well i got something to say for you pally haters out there. GET OVER YOURSELVES be glad that at least somebody is taking up the gap on tanks thanks to how many warriors are fury/arms. I am a pally and i have tanked alot of instances with many of the groups ive been with giving me praise. Please dont say pally's cant tank when there usually the ones saving your ass from getting pwned. Yea thats right i said it and by the way we actually have a buff that lowers aggro and raises aggro for us, plus an awesome aoe aggro spell, Dont forget a taunt and finally for those pally's who are witty enough to use macross you can also SHIELD YOUR BUDDIES WHO ARE GETTING ATTACKED which will turn aggro back to you. but yea your right pally's are terrible tanks even though they tank instances such as kara with more ease then others. I will agree in one thing that warriors are a pure tanking class and i look upon them for guidance in raids. It is a respect that is shared amongst the two clases as one needs the other to succede (me being off tank). So in other words prot pallies are as much needed as warriors since anyway it seems that prot warriors are a rare thing these days. *Shrugs* more loot for me i guess ;p
評論來自
Thottbot
Wow, you guys all act like little babies on this site. You kids need to grow up and just shut the @#$% up. Who gives a ^&*! on who gets the items, seriously. It's a game, not life.
QQ all you want, it's not as if it's getting you anywhere, now is it?
評論來自
Thottbot
I got the Shoulders and pants the first time I was there only plate wearer in the grp to i guess im rly lucky because i also got the chest and boots that day and belt and gloves the next=)
評論來自
Thottbot
Anyone have any info if there is a helmet for this set yet?
評論來自
Thottbot
Great leggings both for a warrior and paladin.
This is not a warrior item only. The sockets make them nice both for a warrior and paladin either tank or dps.
Only reason a paladin shouldent roll on this is if he is speced holy. Then there are much better leggings out there for that spec.
Im now playing a paladin and im speced for tanking. Got them in my first UB run yesterday along with the shoulders from last boss. Ive stacked in +12 stamina gems on both items since im protection. If youre dps go for others, agility, stregth or + hit if you need that.
Before i have played a warrior and seeing this now from both a paladin side, and the warrior one i would never say those leggs are warrior only.
A comment like that belongs to history pre tbc.
Good luck getting a pair, they are great and will last loong.
評論來自
Thottbot
I am a 65 war and i've been tanking Underbog for this since level 63 (i have done at most 10 quests and no grinding, only Underbog runs for 2 levels). I've never seen theese stupid pants drop :( . The shoulders dropped once (a few runs ago) so i now have them.
I've seen someone say that at level 66 are useless to him but i have not found anything better for tanking until
https://www.wowhead.com/cata/item=27977/
勇猛腿鎧 which is a level 68 required item. I know that for Pvp there are some better pants obtainable at level 66 from Hala but those are dps/pvp not tanking.
For me the solution to the dilema "who gets the pants? wawa or tankadin" is easy: the tank gets them ^^ .
And of course i will not have a dps war or retri/tank pala in my group unless they are friends/guildies.
評論來自
Thottbot
"And of course i will not have a dps war or retri/tank pala in my group unless they are friends/guildies."
If i was a warrior I wouldnt want a Prot Pally around either, it'd be embarassing. Except for those "few" scenarios prot are the new tank. Meat shield w/ an impact, watch my dps.
評論來自
Thottbot
Feel like an ass, sorry didn't see ret/tank pally. though imo no such thing, just a wasted dps slot hogging up good plate.
from a recovering "DPS" Pally, give it up, know your place. Ret pallies a joke
評論來自
Thottbot
You seem to almost understand what i said.
These pants are great tanking pants period. It does not matter if the tank is warrior or paladin, he gets them. If you want them then learn to tank, don't ninja them from the guy that pays 15 po repairs so you can pewpew in dungeons.
If i tank then no plate wearer is in my group unless he is a paladin healer. Thus there are no arguments like "is this warior plate or is this paladin plate".
About your attempt at insult in the first post: i don't know and i don't care how good are the paladin tanks. I tanked all instances my level in outlands specced 32/5/xx (that is arms / defense) without problems.
I was dps once in Cot1 at level 68 when i outdpsed a level 70 rogue ^^ (long leave Whirlwind, Cleave, Crow Wing Reaper, the super tank and the super healer in the group) and once in Sethekk Halls when i have been outdpsed by a 69 warrior and when the tank was a 67 druid (but then i tanked the final boss).
The only time i almost had a protection paladin in my group was by accident, i was doing a quest fighting some mobs and i had no time to ask if he was the healer or not before they teleported me. When i checked his gear and realized he is tank specced i asked him if he needed the "Greaves of the Iron Guardian" and i asked the group who is tanking.
When i was informed that i was expected to tank and when the coward did not respond me wheter he wanted the pants or not, i apologized for the misunderstanding, i explained them the reasons for my decison, and then i left the group.
I got the Grieves 5 runs later :).
評論來自
Thottbot
If u have never run w/ a prot pally tank, might wanna give it a try, though he/she needs to know how to play efficiently. No warrior speced other than prot is even considerably a true tank, IMO. BTW a prot pally will speed up the instance alot. A tank that just by being a meat shield threatens top spot on dps meters, OUCH! prot warriors do that?
評論來自
Thottbot
What would a prot pally be doing if not tanking? healing or dps? lmao. that doesnt count as having a prot pally in your group. let a pally tank, and you'll go dps for life
評論來自
Thottbot
yeah, sure
評論來自
Thottbot
Yep, that's about all warriors can say Post BC.
Why take a tank that just stands there when u can have a tank that can dps merely by blocking. So whats better a meat shield (prot warrior) or Tank just as capable of generating threat, but actually front ending it (thank god pallies dont rely on rage, and generate mana through heals LMAO), not to mention generating threat on EVERY target before they are even attacked. And when a paladin is tanking, watch the dps and cry your litle warrior to sleep.
But in all honesty warriors are better in THREE scenarios, LOL should that even count for the countless scenarios in which pallies are better!
sad that a warrior needs cc to be half as reliable a tank
評論來自
Thottbot
*paladin tank
評論來自
Thottbot
yeah, sure.
you the man, we all get it. congratz
評論來自
Thottbot
PALAPOWA
http://www.wowinsider.com/2008/03/13/are-hybrid-tanks-going-to-be-left-behind/
評論來自
Thottbot
Yep, Palapowa. Now have everypiece of "set" including shield, around 9khp, like 425 defense, 211bonus dmg about 11k armor.
thats some tankn palla powa
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