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Comentado por lethargy

New Nitro Boost backfire as of 4.0.3a

Comentado por ShadeolTheFox

Since the new addition of Nitro Boosts being attached to your belt instead of your boots, they have retained their old backfire of launching you into the air. This is a secondary backfire that could happen as well.

I first saw this in Isle of Conquest while attempting to Nitro Boost to the central flag. It will burn your health for ~15% a second for 8 seconds. This means it will burn about 120% of your health. It seems Resilience may reduce this damage, seeing as I only took about 90% health damage.

Comentado por 618367

This does in total 15% X 8s = 120% of your health in damage, reduced by resilience, you're dead if there are people hitting you and you don't have bubble/iceblock/something.

Needs to be confirmed but I think this only procs in BGs and can't proc in the world.

Comentado por 702125

So...

Is it time to replace engineering for RBGs?

Comentado por Bonkbonk

I think this drawback is a bit overkill and not very engineer like.

It would be more fun/annoying if the nitroboost backfire caused your movement keys to be inverted, slowing down your speed instead of increasing it or just not work at all. I just want something more engineer-ish instead of this "YOU TAKE LOADS OF DAMAGE LOLZ" backfire.

Comentado por FaustinaDraenor

This is absolutely ridiculous and totally unfair on Engineers. A profession bonus that sometimes kills you, are you ****ing serious? What if Alchemist potions sometimes killed you? Bandages sometimes gave DoT? There would be mass QQ. I hope they remove this or at least nerf the damage it does, unbelievably high and totally unfair.

Comentado por Sersi

Engineering also has the most potential reward of any of the professions, so it makes sense that it has the highest potential risk as well.. Rocket boosts are unequaled in battlegrounds and dungeons. They allow you to escape mechanics and fights that other professions just can't do. You also have several other tinkers at your disposal if you so choose.

No other profession has "perks" that can hurt you. The JC-only gems or Lightweave Embroidery for example don't have any downside, only benefits.

Not to mention you can't use a lot of the engineer-only stuff in Arena or Rated Battlegrounds, rocket boosts included. But I digress...

This backfire killed me in AB from full hp through 1800 resil and soul link. Not fun.

Comentado por m3x1can007

I was shocked, as I just returned and I was in a WSG, 1v3ing a DK Warlock and a Rogue, I had them all in kite range and used m y DEMO PORTAL, and was attempting to rocket boots away, and got owned hard, I looked into my combat log and found this, it hurts >.<

Comentado por Loof42

Does anyone have any numbers on how big the chance of this triggering is?
I've been using the nitro boosts a lot, but I've never gotten this, only the back-fire when you fly up in the air, which is trivial, since you can right-click the parachute off.

Comentado por sandreid87

Charged a Mage in WSG, who was all alone on his mount. I had about 10% hp myself. and I suddenly died by apparently nothing, while he was still stunned from the Charge. I then took a look at the combat log and found out that I had taken 15k damage from "Rocket Fuel Leak".
Was pretty confused of what had happened, although I could guess it probably had something to do with Engineering. I was right.

Yet another nerf to Engineering. This is really crippling your chances of surviving the usage of any engineering gadget. I've been pretty unlucky lately (I think), having about 30-40% malfunction chance of my Nitro Boost. I get shot up in the air and about half the time that happens, the auto-parachute doesn't pop. If that is the case, then I can't use my own parachute-enchant on my cloak either. So I end up dying from the fall damage. Even if I survive, somehow, land on top of +3 ppl, who I can't beat or escape from (or atleast not without Nitro Boost, oh the irony!).

Comentado por Shadowlyger

According to the Wowpedia page, this backfire has been removed. Can anyone confirm this?

Comentado por TomBombadil

Have been using my rocket boosts A LOT since cataclysm was released - never had a fuel leak. In perhaps over 300 uses.

Today I went to do Zul Aman and as soon as I entered I used my belt and then I noticed I'm taking heavy damage. Took me by surprise and I died. Some time later, still in Zul Aman, I used them again and got the leak again - managed to survive this time (soul harvest). So 2 fuel leaks in perhaps 6 uses in Zul Aman. And I have had none before.

Comentado por 326601

If you look through the comments, One pattern that has emerged is that this seems to only happen in BG's and....Zul'aman.

I have used my rocket boots hundreds of times in Cataclysm raids and never had this backfire occur, but multiple times in Zul'aman. Seems to be restricted to only certain content.

Comentado por Scabies

I know blizzard likes to dish out senseless damage in the name of making things challenging... but seriously?

I've had belts launch me into the air for Nefarian (you take Shadow of Cowardice or something for being off the ground) and belts fuze me to the ground when the lava rises for the same encounter... It ceases to be fun or quirky in certain situations.

Comentado por dingbot1

Looks like it's happening in Cata raids in 4.1.0, now...

Thanks Blizz

Comentado por 611596

Happened to me, in the middle of a pull in a boost... NOT a good debuff to get then!

Comentado por 180981

Question, can this debuff be cleared by Cloak of Shadows? If so rogue's have a bit of utility they can use in raids with this, such as Atramedes, running from fire if Sprint is on CD.

Comentado por 844373

The effect of this does get affected by Mastery - As an enhance shaman with 17.47 Mastery (43% increased Fire, Frost, and Nature damage), this debuff kills me unless either:

A: I use Shamanistic Rage, Berserking, AND spam Healing Surge (each Healing Surge hits me for around 7-8k w/o critting) till the 8 seconds are up (I still die or end up with about 3k health). I have 112k health unbuffed, and w/o Shamanistic Rage the debuff is hitting me for around 17-18k per tick - around 10-12k with Shamanistic Rage up.

B: Have someone heal me through the entire duration.

The backfire from this can happen anywhere - I've had it happen in Heroic Sethekk Halls upon entry, when I get aggro and need to gtfo from Chimaeron, upon entry in raids (BoT, BWD, etc.), ZA, ZG, Orgrimmar, etc.

Edit: fixing spelling + fail link to enhance mastery

Comentado por 832103

So jewelcrafters can have better gems that everyone else but engineers aren't allowed to have a reliable speed boost. Nice.

Comentado por mukunda

I get fuel leaks all the time, still worth it in raids though. :D

Comentado por Hashupa

EDIT: This used to be entirely WAY too overpowered, but it seems that at some point during 5.4, Blizzard nerfed this debuff to do a nearly unnoticeable amount of damage. It has gotten no where NEAR killing me and it also seems that it can't even take out 50% of my health. Good move, blizz!

Comentado por 568092

The fuel leak is overkill.

Comentado por 771190

The sense of Dilbert-esque unfairness is at least half the appeal of the profession.

Comentado por TheTacomaster

I don't know why Blizzard suddenly decided to pull such a huge about-face with engineering's functional use in raids and parties. In WotLK, it was encouraging to see the tinkers introduced, as little as they did for actual gameplay. Now, we're getting ridiculous amounts of punishment for simply using a speed boost.

:'c

Comentado por jelito

I just wanted to use nitro on alysrazor to speedup grabbing 3 feathers for flying phase, and instead i got this fuel leak which killed me, i was like wtf O.O ?
This backfire is too big to be realiable in raids im not gonna use nitro anymore

Comentado por Azaram

It hasn't killed me. When I'm at full health and get the leak, it takes me down to about 10% on my hunter. Has the damage been changed?

Comentado por Deadfunk

Just a note for Death Knights. You can AMS through this debuff and negate 90% of the dmg. Take the first tick in damage, then use anti-magic shell for the rest of it.

Comentado por Nikeyeia

Words can't explain how much I hate this debuff.
Overall, from the first time I got it (Some 6 months back), I've gotten it about 20% of the times I used my boost. Really? I've wiped several times at raidbosses because I forgot about the debuff.
Now, I understand we got stuff like Molas Sinápticas, and that buff grants us an average of around ~80 in our primary stat (Equal to JC/LW/Whatever), so this is like an added bonus. But seriously? It's fine that it gives a backfire, but back when it sent you flying, that was kind of fun too. It didn't kill you. It was suprising, but forced you to think in a new way, and very fast: "What do I do now? Oh! I went out of combat! Flight form." But a debuff that directely kills you? I mean, what the hell?
Optional effects in a game is ment to be fun and interesting. And this debuff is neither fun nor interesting. If they gave it a new backfire instead (I see lots of good suggestions on this page), that would be great. Heck, even if they reduced the damage, that would be awesome. Hotfixing from 120% to 80%? Pff. It kills you anyways.

Comentado por 638360

If you're doing molten core, be aware that Maldição de Shazzrah increases the damage that this deals. Alot.
Yes, I found that out the hard way.

Comentado por 852794

Rocket boost damage should be nerfed, especially if the chance of fail is so high. Or nerf the chance to fail. 80% of hp gone in 8 seconds, so it basically takes a couple of hits then to kill me. Would rather have them kill me than give a kb to some fail pvper who just got lucky my nitro boosts are POS. I have had these fail more than actually work for me.

Comentado por Professori

3800 resilience and this #$%^ still kills me? Why is it able to crit? WHY?

Anyone know if it has increased chance to occur on specific boss fights? Or is it just me that I see it more often on fire heavy fights such as sartharion and Jan'Alai?

Comentado por 914948

Does Cloak of shadows remove this thing?

Comentado por 909136

I do not believe that this debuff will happen to characters 80 and below. I have been using them around once every five minutes while farming BC rep and I have never seen the rocket fuel leak. Just the one that sends you flying around half the time.

Comentado por Goats

Was this nerfed? It doesn't seem to be anywhere near as deadly before 4.3.
My warlock has around 150k health and this was ticking for 7k.

Comentado por 918095

Just got killed by the damn proc in Old Hillsbrad...pulled all the mobs near barracks, sped up to get more upstairs, got distracting shot debuff off dang hunter...and voila, 205k HP didnt help 1 bit :( 1st time i saw that proc too... /cry

Comentado por 687131

To Warlocks: Soul Link does work with the damage from this. So you'll end up only losing 60% of your max health, assuming you're glyphed. Throw in a cookie and a couple of Drain Lifes and you'll be as good as new. If you're out of combat, just Soul Harvest.

To Destro Locks: Nether Ward/Protection also helps protect you from its damage.

To All: Do believe fire resist helps reduce damage from this. When I was using Nether Ward, the Nether Protection buff popped up saying it was reducing fire damage done to me and the Fuel Leak was the only thing I was taking damage from.

Comentado por Kilroy7456

..did they increase the chance of this happening lately, or has my luck just been terrible? i'm getting really sick of being killed by it, especially when it makes me fail a quest. why the hell is something like this necessary when these aren't even f***ing useable in the only places where they'd really be complained about?

Comentado por thejake420

I don't know what you guys are complaining about. The fuel leak is a freaking awesome "oops" proc. It's survivable by simply using the same CD as you would if some warlock just unloaded on you, but since it's only a small percentage of the time, it leaves you the option to roll the dice. You get the huge 250% speed boost (which you CAN combine with Living Action Potion for uninterrupted zoooooom right through those giant "bottleneck on the bridge" situations in a BG that is otherwise keeping people from chasing down that enemy flag carrier), but at a (rare but always present) risk of kaboom. I get about 30 dead enemy flag carriers to every 1 rocket fuel leak, so yeah. I'll take my chances. :D

Ok, can't use in RBGs. Sad, but totally understandable. Rocket Boosts are WAY OP, despite previously having been allowed in arena. (Which is specifically why they're no longer allowed.)

I've absolutely dominated as a clothie FC in WSG/TP since I started using these. On my mage for example (have multiple eng's), simply get to tunnel, rocket boots up tunnel when dismounted, hit invisibility a couple seconds ahead of arriving in flag room, invisibly grab flag, blink back OUT of flag room, and presto - speed boost is still available for you on the way out. Use your imagination with your character's racials/professions/abilities/consumables to improve the benefit.

Of course, my experience may be a bit better than yours as I also use other less common (but easily obtainable) items and consumables such as water walking pots, living action potions (immunity to stuns), swiftness potions (run speed). Rocket boosts are simply another tool in the badass Batman-esque arsenal of consumables and profession toys (I still use dense stone statues in my OhSnap! macros, etc. Every possible advantage. Sounds cheap, but the fact is I completely OWN in BGs, largely due to the goodies I bring with me, rocket boosts being one of them.)

As for mitigating the effect itself, Ice Block works (need to cancel it afterwards or wait, but it does end the effect). I kinda find that fun. Also, if you have Power Auras, simply set a big red skull or something in the middle of your screen when it procs the fuel leak so that you may respond accordingly.

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