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Comentado por wingman

I have killed this boss with the 3 mini bosses down on beta Murmur server. The more mini-bosses down the easier he is, but less loot he drops. As others have mentioned he can drop a black drake mount if all 3 are up. The abilities he gains with 1 or more of the 3 mini bosses still alive are based on which ones are alive.

Strat: It's best to tank him exactly where he is, but on a 90 deg angle or sideways to his initial position. This makes it easier to avoid the tidal waves.

With all 3 mini bosses down, it's basically a tank and spank. He hits semi-hard, and I highly recommend 1 tank 3 healer 6 dps set up for it. As far as I can see, class make-up don't really matter. Try to have a paladin fire aura up though, or something equivalent.

He hits for about 6k on my feral druid in my blue premade toon pvp set (with about 3-4 of naxx 10 epics only). He also does a firebreath which I've seen hit for 13k fire damage, so make sure tank is always topped off. Just like on Nightbane in Kara, you don't want to be anywhere near his front or his rear as he cleaves and has a tail swipe. Also like Nightbane's constructs, this guy has a bunch of fire elementals that come out that need to be dealt with fairly quickly. The main difference is, Sartharion doens't fly away, so you still need to keep heals on the tank.

The main part of it the fight is the tidal waves as mentioned in the positioning. They go from left to right, then alternate to right to left. They're big walls of lava that you can't not spot. They have a gap or two in them. All DPS and healers need to move to a position where they can take advantage of that gap, as the wave will hit you for about 6k+, then put a 4k a second dot on you. In some cases, it's not practical for the tank to avoid the tidal waves, as doing so would get other members of the raid cleaved or tailswiped. It's fairly easy to see this coming though, so healers can prepare by ensuring the tank is topped off and has hots rolling. As a druid I used my Barkskin (1min CD -20% dmg) for this.

He dropped one tier 7 shoulder token, and the spirit trinket.

Comentado por Silhac

This boss will drop one of two flying mounts if you kill the boss with all three of the drake adds alive. Which of the two dropped depends on if you are doing 10 or 25 man.

10 man gives the Black Drake flying mount.
25 man gives the Twilight Drake flying mount.

Having this mount will likely be a sign that your raid likes to take challenges as the boss is harder with each drake add still alive.

Comentado por wingman

To add to the previous information, killing him with all 3 drakes alive gives everyone in the raid a title:

10 man: <name> of the nightfall
25 man: Twilight Vanquisher <name>

Comentado por 48128

Tenebron summons whelps to the battle if you leave him alive
-Best done with dk/pally tank, all adds (incl the fire elementals Sartharion summons) must all be pulled towards one spot where everyone aoe's them

Vesperon adds a raid-wide debuff that increases all shadow damage taken by 100%
-Not that deadly if you know Sartharions damage is fire aswell as the damage his adds do, the only shadow damage done is from Vesperon himself, wich is the easiest dragon to handle if everyone is focused

Shadron gives Sartharion a shield that reduces all damage taken by a certain amount (i have to get back on this)
You might have heard from a lot of people that Shadron like Vesperon adds a raid-wide debuff, but this is untrue
-One of the harder dragons to manage

Sartharion himself is actually pretty easy, but when you keep one dragon alive it suddenly becomes a whole lot harder.
The only thing you need to keep an eye on is that you get the adds down in time OR you drag them with you to a safe zone where the fire can't hit you so they don't enrage
Once you see a big wave of fire building up at either the left side or the right side you need to run to a save zone, there are two save zones where the fire can't hit you
A wave can come from either sides so beware that you don't get mixed up
When the wave comes from the left (whenfacing north) the save zone will be south (down)
When the wave comes from the right the save zone will be north

Comentado por OmegaReaper

The loot he drops according to the number of minibosses you keep alive (The more Drakes left alive, the more loot he will drop).

10 Man
Alone :
Dragon Hide Bag
Gloves of the Lost Conqueror
Gloves of the Lost Protector
Gloves of the Lost Vanquisher

Signet of the Accord (BOE)
Majestic Dragon Figurine
Titan's Outlook
Blade-Scarred Tunic
Gale-Proof Cloak
Legguards of Composure
Remembrance Girdle
Volitant Amulet
Crimson Steel

One Drake left:
One extra item from the list above.

Two Drakes left:
Belabored Legplates
Enamored Cowl
Greatring of Collision
Sabatons of Firmament

Three Drakes left:
Reins of the Black Drake

Might have missed an item somewhere, let me know and I'll add it. :)

Comentado por 59131

How often does this encounter reset?

Comentado por 43910

This boss is easily done by a pickupgroup on both 10 and 25man (without extra dragons, of course)

I'll discuss tactics, clearing trash and bosses from left to right.

Raid setup:
10 man - 2 tanks, 3 healers, 5 dps
25 man - 2-3 tanks, 7-8 healers, rest dps (three tanks is advised to split damage from adds)

-On the 4 dragon trash packs, fire orbs spawn like on 2nd boss in Ahn'kahet. They hurt. Move out.
-The double drakonoid pulls are tank and spank

First boss: Assign 4 (or 10 on heroic) people, including tank and healers to go through the portal every time, and kill the add that spawns in there. The rest stays on the boss, that's pretty much it.

Second boss: Slightly harder, in this portal he spawns a bunch of small dragons. Have 1 tank + 1-2 healers (or 2 tanks + 3-4 healers on heroic) go through the portal, aoe tank the dragons when they hatch, and keep tanking them until the boss is dead. Don't let dps kill them. He should be dead around the second portal.

Third boss: When he spawns an add in the portal, he will reduce all damage taken by 100%. Therefor, have 1 tank + 2 healers (or 1 tank + 4 healers) and ALL DPS enter the portal and zerg the add. Rinse and repeat.

Sartharion himself:

Have your main tank tank the boss facing left. The ENTIRE raid stacks up in melee range of the boss (Not behind him, he tail swipes and stuns.)

The main issue of this fight is huge fire walls coming from both sides, with a gap in them. When these come, EVERYONE except the MT has to move to the gap in the fire walls, otherwise they'll end up taking a lot of damage and probably dying. Note that these walls have 2 possible positions for gaps, so you need to be aware and move.

Every once in a while fire elementals spawn around the dragon, have your offtank(s) pick them up, and aoe them down when you have like 5 up.

The fight stays the same until around 10%, where he will spawn a LOT of fire elementals. Have your offtank(s) aoe tank them and have them spamhealed (Shield wall comes in handy here). DPS should nuke the adds down ASAP, this is a good time to use heroism.

If it goes well you should have some seriously easy epics and badges.

Good luck!

Comentado por 94362

Compared to previous 25 raid bosses, even some Naxx 10 bosses, Sartharion was a joke as far as difficulty went.

HQ Vid available if anyone is interested - http://files.filefront.com/12455287

Comentado por 255091

I haven't done 25 man Sartharion yet, but in 10 man he frequently spawns 2 adds at a time. You need two tanks, one main tank for Sartharion and one off tank for the adds. A pally would probably work best for the adds, but I handled it just fine as a warrior. A /target macro would probably help a lot here, the adds are very small and they're sometimes hard to spot under Sartharion.

The adds start out as small lava elementals with 26k health, but if you don't kill them quickly, they turn into big elementals with roughly 80k health. So most of the dps (preferably ranged) should switch to the adds to kill them quickly before each lava wave (they turn into the big elementals when hit by the lava wave).

When Sartharion reaches 10% health, he'll summon a bunch of big elementals that need to be quickly picked up by the off tank. All the dps should just stay on the boss for the remaining 10% while the off tank handles the adds.

Comentado por 31780

Here is what I got from my experience today, I pugged it too:

There is trash when you get in and they pull with Sartharion.

Mistress: Casts flame shock, flame orb, rain of fire, flame orb can be outdistanced easily, was tanked with an unholy deathknight, should be killed first.

There is also packs of 2 guardians roaming about.

Guardian: Shockwave in a frontal cone for 10,000, mitigated by armor. Will curse random party members, causing damage done by that person to have a chance to heal the target. Should be picked up and face away from raid and away from each other.

The 3 drakes all do flame breath, tail swipe, and shadow fissure. It is easy to see the shadow fissure and move out of it. The drake should be face away from the raid, going through the portals they spawn causes you to take 1000 damage a tick, they all have unique abilities:

Vesperon
- Spawns a portal leaving a debuff on the group that causes damage when damaging him. All DPS and 1 healer and 1 tank should go through and kill acolyte.
- Summons a portal, which all DPS and one healer should go through and proceed to kill all eggs. After about 20 seconds these eggs will hatch into whelplings with 60k health. Whelplings that hatched should be picked up by a tank and killed.
- Shadron
  
  Opens a portal and bubbles himself, reducing damage taken and increasing damage done. All DPS, one healer, and one tank should go through and nuke the acolyte. Once killed the bubble drops and you can kill the drake.

Now for the big guy.

Sartharion will melee for around 5-7k on a feral druid. He will also flame breath for 12-13k damage, keep your tank topped off. During the encounter he has some fun abilities:

Periodically he will yell something and cause one of the flame tornadoes around the platform to grow larger and spout fire balls. These fire balls deal 2000 AoE damage to random spots. They also have a chance to spawn fire elementals with 26k health, have a tank pick these up.

It is very important to know that if one of the fire elementals get hit by the flame wave, they get a 200% health, 100% damage buff. Essentially making them a pain in the butt!

Gratz to you if you can kill this boss, he's not too hard anyway :-P

Side note: Can anyone tell me if their is a trigger to the flame elementals spawning? We would get attempts with 5 every 30 seconds and attempts with 2 every minute...

Comentado por smoo

Regardless of the normal tactics you have to follow:

Sartharion - 10 man - Vesperon still alive (one add-drake).

Vesperon will join the fight at 50%.

We tanked Sartharion at the left side of his island, the flank looking towards the instance portal (dragon head pointing towards Vesperons position). Vesperon lands at the tail of Sartharion, Def-Warrior taunted the Vesperon and pulled it towards the feral-tank who was tanking Sartharion. The feral-tank taunts Vesperon and now tanks both adds. Thats the moment when we did heroism, all DPS focused on Vesperon till he was dead, a CoH Priest healed Vesperons aura (we ignored the portal). The def-tank continued to pull the flame adds towards the camp, so the aoe abilities could kill the adds too.
After Vesperon being dead Sartharion did an soft enrage (faster attack, more damage) and the even softer enrage at 10%, when a new wave of fire adds spawned (which we ignored too).

Hints:
- Tanking Sartharion in the middle of the island, head pointing towards Vesperons position (left drake) allowed it to not move while the lava wall had the hole in the middle part, and only a short movement period when the other wall appeared.
- Building a camp, with everybody being inside the camp made it incredible easy to heal and to collect the fire adds. We had an off-warrior and a retri-paladin who could easily kill the fire adds with aoe.

Comentado por 821

Important:

If you take Sartharion with 1 add alive (in our case Tenebron), kill him when he comes into the fight. Don't just offtank him. If you do offtank him, then at Sartharion@25% Tenebron will enrage and wipe you. So, whilst dealing with the whelps that spawn and staying out of void zones, kill Tenebron ASAP then resume dps on Sartharion.

The wording of the achievement is horrible :(

Comentado por wasniahC

Vesperon
Spawns a portal leaving a debuff on the group that causes damage when damaging him. All DPS and 1 healer and 1 tank should go through and kill acolyte.
Leaving this drake up increases shadow damage the raid takes by 100%
Tenebron
Summons a portal, which all DPS and one healer should go through and proceed to kill all eggs. After about 20 seconds these eggs will hatch into whelplings with 60k health. Whelplings that hatched should be picked up by a tank and killed.
Leaving this boss up reduces the health of your raid by 20% for the Sartharion encounter.
Shadron
Opens a portal and bubbles himself, reducing damage taken and increasing damage done. All DPS, one healer, and one tank should go through and nuke the acolyte. Once killed the bubble drops and you can kill the drake.
Leaving this drake up increases fire damage the raid takes by 100%

This is -wrong-. Well, Shadron is right. Our raid was somewhat ruined when we discovered that rather than take 100% more shadow damage, we had 25% less health. Here is how the first two should read:

Vesperon
Spawns a portal leaving a debuff on the group that causes damage when damaging him. All DPS and 1 healer and 1 tank should go through and kill acolyte.
Leaving this drake up reduces the health of your raid by 25% for the Sartharion encounter.
Tenebron
Summons a portal, which all DPS and one healer should go through and proceed to kill all eggs. After about 20 seconds these eggs will hatch into whelplings with 60k health. Whelplings that hatched should be picked up by a tank and killed.
Leaving this boss up increases shadow damage the raid takes by 100%

Comentado por 260739

Just my $.02:

I've only had the opportunity to try this boss on normal mode. I was offtanking his little fire adds and discovered I was fantastically bad at picking them up while learning how to dodge waves.

If you have leftover FR gear from BC, feel free to throw it on. The 4 armor pieces plus a totem and I took a little over half as much damage as I would without it.

You don't need resist by any means, but if the add tank has it and the sartharion tank is squishy, try it with a piece or two. It frees up your healers and is a good approximation of "training wheels". It helped especially during the 10% add zerg.

Comentado por 254234

Clearing up on the adds abilities.
All three drakes do Shadow Breath (H), Tail Lash (H) and Shadow Fissure (H) (lasts 10s) target is random. However, all three dragons have a specific aura that is a debuff to your raid.

For normal mode Shadow Breath (N), Shadow Fissure (N) and Tail Lash (N).

Vesperon (H 2,231,200 N 976,100 hp)
Power of Vesperon -25% Health to the whole raid.
Summons a portal debuffing your group to take damage when you damage him. In the portal is an Acolyte (N) (? hp)/ Disciple (H) (390,990 hp)
Shadron (H 2,231,200 N 976,100 hp)
Power of Shadron +100% Fire damage taken by the raid. Summons a portal and shields himself reducing all damage taken and increasing his damage done.
Going in the portal will damage you for 1,000.
There will be an Acolyte (N) (? hp)/ Disciple (H) (390,990 hp) which you have to kill in order to take the shield down.
Tenebron (H 2,231,200 N 976,100 hp)
Power of Tenebron +100% Shadow damage taken by the raid.
Summons a portal, which all DPS and one healer should go through and proceed to kill all eggs. After about 20 seconds these eggs will hatch into whelplings with 60k health. Whelplings that hatched should be picked up by a tank and killed.
Hatch Eggs Tenebron summons a portal in which eggs are spawned. After about 20s the eggs hatches into Whelps (156,396 hp - amount of whelps determined by Normal or Heroic mode) that do Fade Armor.

As for the boss himself, he has the following set of abilities:

Sartharion
Will of Sartharion +25% to all of the drakes.
Cleave
Tail Lash (H)
Flame Breath (H)

Tail Lash (N)
Flame Breath (N)

He yells and making a fire tornado shoot fire bolts, in a yet undetermined fashion that deals 2,000 Fire damage.
At around 10%, he summons Lava Blazes (65,165 hp? (H) / 26,000 hp (N)) that if it by a wave, get 200% hp and 100% increased damage.

More data needs to be gathered as I am still lacking the exact infos on the fire walls, elementals, hp of acolytes and disciple verified? (I am a healer and I haven't look at most of these things). Feel free to correct me.

Comentado por 116979

Dunno if this has been posted already but the adds are not fire immune and they can be rooted.

Me and another mage took turns with frost novas in the late last phase.

Also, don't bother with AoE unless everyone's doing it. It's a long fight (at least on heroic) and you need save your mana.

Comentado por AxelF

Just to clarify if u have 3 mini bosses up on normal he will drop a Black Drake,
but if all 3 are up on herioc he will drop a Twilight Drake

Comentado por Vexus

Rogues: Cloak of Shadows does not avoid the Lava Wall damage. However, you can Shadow Step through it to the boss if you play it right. Generally not needed, but it helps.

Comentado por 240946

Such flammable little insects!

Comentado por Dakai

One item that drops from Sartharion that does not appear to show in either the Normal of Heroic drops tabs is Wyrmrest Band

Comentado por rohonaken

A few things in the above posts that i saw go unmentioned:

1. To the fellow who commented on the elemental spawns - it appears as though a flame wave hitting a raid member may cause additional elementals to spawn, as well as raid members touching the lava around sartharion's platform (long enough to take damage)

2. Any drake left up will cause the drake(s) and sartharion to gain 25% health, no matter which drake it is (this is not an effect of vesperon; as such killing vesperon will not decrease other drakes', or sartharion's health by 25%.)

3. I think many folks (including myself and my guild initially) misunderstand the concept behind leaving the drakes alive. What is expected is essentially that you KILL each individual drake as they land. Killing a drake and then wiping to sartharion or other drakes during the encounter will respawn them as if they were part of the encounter, like FLK, majordomo, etc. Their emblems will be on sartharion along with the additional piece of loot they provide. You are most certainly not expected to off-tank the twilight drakes throughout the course of the fight.

Comentado por rohonaken

For a guide with 1 or more drakes alive
(intended so that everyone else doesn't have to first experience the fight AND read through all these previous posts, as i did)

Leaving all the drakes up will cause them to periodically enter the fight. They each have their same unique abilities as they would if encountered before engaging sartharion in addition to each placing a unique negative aura on the raid.
1. Tenebron lands at almost the exact same time as the first flame wave at or around 20 seconds after engaging.
2. Shadron lands somewhere around 50 seconds after engaging sartharion.
3. Vesperon lands 80-90 seconds into the fight.
Please note that these times are approximations based on experience.

Sartharion and his abilities (the links are his Heroic versions):
Summons Lava Blazes. These mobs are small fire elementals, have 65k HP and will be affected by an enrage effect if they are touched by a Flame Tsunami. The enrage affect increases size, damage, and health dramatically. The raid needs to use good judgment to determine when these should be aoe'd down. EDIT: the spawning of these is on account of the raid taking any fire damage except from sartharion's breath (lava, flame tsunami, lava spouts)

Will of Sartharion: As the tooltip suggests, this is caused by the presence of any twilight drake when sartharion is engaged. Killing the twilight drake(s) once engaged will not remove it.
Cleave: Most raid members could take a cleave and live, but never should. Part of the challenge of this encounter with drakes up is keeping unnecessary damage down to a minimum.
Tail Lash: Once again, raid members can live through this damage, however with drakes up it is imperative that this damage is never taken.
Flame Breath: With Shadron alive (Power of Shadron), this will hit your main tank EXTREMELY hard. It doesn't appear to reset Sartharion's swing timer and is the main source of the burst damage the main tank will receive throughout the fight.
Another ability which wowhead does not list is his Flame Wave. After looking at a WWS report, it appears to be known officially as Flame Tsunami.
Since Wowhead has minimal information on it regarding details, i'll quote the WWS tooltip:
Flame Tsunami
Inflicts fire damage to nearby enemies, drenching them with lava, slowing them and dealing additional fire damage over 10 seconds.
This ability should be understood fairly quickly. It occurs periodically, every 20-25 seconds throughout the entire fight. The raid is fore-warned by an emote saying something to the effect of "the lava around sartharion begins to stir". Waves will form on either the north side of his platform, or the south, with intermittent breaks in which the raid needs to place themselves to avoid the damage. It is nearly deadly as it is and multiple raid members being hit by it is a huge amount of damage to heal through. With Shadron's aura it will more than likely be completely fatal. The initial hit may be fully resistable but it's pretty important that you never find out. The DoT effect it leaves can be cloaked, dispersed, bubbled, iceblocked, etc and should be to save your healers and yourself.
Another effect not mentioned is the random fire damage done to the raid (that i refer to as "lava spouts"). I have very little information regarding it, however it's clearly visible, and even occurs before the encounter starts. Small bursts of fire will spout out of the surrounding magma and hit random raid members for a few thousand damage, and it is clearly amplified by Power of Shadron. Its damage may also be affected by proximity, meaning the closer one is to where the fire lands the more damage it will deal. however this is just speculation.

Shared abilities of every twilight drake:
Each twilight drake has some unique abilities as well as some that are shared with each drake.
Every drake has 2.2 million HP on heroic, and will be affected by Will of Sartharion which brings them to approximately 2.7 million HP each.
The following are their shared abilities:

Every drake will cast Shadow Fissure. This spell will place an area-effect graphic on the ground, identical in appearance to Kel'Thuzad's. Raid members have about 5 seconds to completely clear the area. It will hit for 25,000 (i realize the ability itself specifies 13k), is partially resistiable, and affected by Tenebron's Aura. With multiple drakes alive, you will often see multiple Shadow Fissures spawn. They absolutely must be avoided, as they are more than likely fatal to the average raid member, and sometimes to tanks as well.

Another shared ability is their breath effect. Of course Shadow Breath should only hit the tank, and all other raid members should keep about 10-15yd range if behind the tank and keep clear of any drake's head at all times. It will not necessarily kill a raid member, but once again it is imperative to minimize all unnecessary damage when trying the encounter with multiple drakes alive. This ability will come up later when discussing Tenebron.

The only other ability they share is that which spawns a portal. An emote will appear, naming the drake and informing the raid that a portal will have spawned. However, what is inside, and the effects of the portal being up remain unique to each twilight drake and will be discussed in the next comment i make.

Comentado por rohonaken

As aforementioned, Tenebron will be the first twilight drake to land, about 20 seconds into the fight, and at almost the exact same time as the first flame tsunami.

Power of Tenebron will be in effect until Tenebron is killed. However, the only shadow damage sources are Shadow Breath, Shadow Fissure, and Twilight Torment(an ability unique to Vesperon).
His aura is the least detrimental of the three, in my opinion. However it shouldn't be ignored by the healers. The tanks on the twilight drakes will take noticeably more sporadic damage until Tenebron is downed.
Tenebron's portal will contain the eggs of twilight whelps. When entered, the player will be phased into a different realm where several eggs in the area will be targetable and killable. Any eggs inside the portal that are not killed before Tenebron casts Hatch Eggs, will cause Twilight Whelps to spawn in the normal realm. These mobs have 150k HP and have fairly low melee damage but should be tanked.
When attempting with multiple drakes up, it is important to know that Tenebron's portal should be completely ignored, the twilight whelps off-tanked until his death, heroism/bloodlust should be used, and Tenebron should be bursted down AS FAST AS POSSIBLE. Tenebron needs to be extremely low (below 30%) before Shadron lands and dead long before Vesperon lands. It is almost impossible to maintain stability throughout the encounter if your raid lacks the dps to kill Tenebron quickly.

Please note:
While casting Hatch Eggs as of 12/15/08 (the Monday before a patch), Tenebron seems to move around randomly, as though he's moving to the location of some eggs within his portal realm. This is very dangerous since he may randomly breathe on the raid. There is almost nothing you can do but be extra cautious of it and try your best to avoid it.

As soon as he is killed, the whelps need to be taken care of. If your off-tank is taking too much damage while trying to kill Tenebron, it may be best to postpone damage on Tenebron and eliminate some of the whelps and lava blazes. Killing Tenebron removes his aura from the raid as well as the spawning of whelps, once his portal has despawned.

The next drake to land will be Shadron.
Power of Shadron will be in effect until he is killed. A person hit by a Flame Tsunami will more than likely die in only a few seconds, Sartharion's Flame Breath will hit for large amounts of damage on the main tank, and the lava spouts that do random raid damage will hit very hard while he is alive (although they're relatively rare).
He will spawn Shadow Fissures.
He will use his breath on the tank.
Shadron is, in my opinion, the most difficult drake to deal with during Sartharion's encounter.

When Shadron spawns a portal, it will place Gift of Twilight on Sartharion. This portal should be ignored, and Shadron should be DPS'd down quickly.
You will need to manage DPS between Lava Blazes and Shadron.
Once Tenebron dies, Shadron will be DPS'd; you'll likely have a multitude of adds, drakes and elementals alike, that need to be killed.

Vesperon lands about 80-90 seconds into the encounter. Until Shadron is killed, Vesperon will be off-tanked.
He will breathe on the tank.
He will spawn his own Shadow Fissures.

Vesperon's portal is negligible so long as Tenebron is down before he lands. While his portal is up, Twilight Torment will be in effect on the raid. It will hit for approximately 7000. His portal CAN be ignored but the presence of it should most certainly not be! The DPS in the raid will take fairly large amounts of damage now and can experience some spikes in health and should be monitored very closely. Whether or not to take Vesperon's portals is upto you. It should be doable either way. Leaving the portal up will allow you to quickly burst Shadron down, which can quickly minimize the amount of times your MT will need extra help for breaths. Going into the portal will stretch the fight out a bit; it will be more of an effort to maintain the raid, and less of a worry about Sartharion's enormous breath damage. If you have 8 or more healers, leave the portal alone (this is unlikely though). If you have 7 or less, I would recommend entering the portal as it causes healing to be very rough. If you enter it, a tank or a dps class with a shield needs to tank the acolyte and only 1 healer should follow with the majority of the dps that should enter.
While Vesperon and Shadron are both alive, it is important to note that the main tank will be taking INSANE hits from Sartharion's breath, upwards of 40k on account of Twilight Torment combined with Power of Shadron. The tank should be using any cooldowns that might be able to keep him alive (Unholy death knights have the most cooldowns to counter it atm) however using a 51 point holy priest's Guardian Spirit and a paladin's Hand of Sacrifice will likely be necessary regardless. You may choose to hold your heroism/bloodlust until the raid is dpsing Shadron if the tank lacks the cooldowns.

This is the most difficult portion of the encounter, and making it through with a large part of the raid alive will likely mean a kill. There will temporarily be massive amounts of damage to heal through, and the raid will also still have to pay attention to Flame Tsunamis and multiple Shadow Fissures. It is also on the DPS to push each twilight drake as fast as possible.

Once Shadron is down, the raid should switch to Vesperon. It is not a bad idea to keep the Blazes (and Whelps) adjacent to whichever drake is being DPS'd at the time. However the large amount of mobs near the melee can make it hard for them to see Shadow Fissures forming. If this becomes a problem, such positioning should be avoided, as it is not required, but merely helps.

It should be noted that with each drake's death, Sartharion will gain Twilight Revenge dealing 25% more damage 25% faster with each stack, up to eventually 75%. At 10% Sartharion will soft enrage, and with 3 stacks of Twilight Revenge still applied, does heavy amounts of damage to the tank as well as spams lava spouts, which causes a huge number of lava blazes to spawn. In an attempt with 2 or more drakes up, you'll likely have lost exhaustion and be able to heroism/bloodlust again for this.

Please note:
If you choose not to enter Vesperon's portals, you should be aware that his portal seems to remain open regardless of his death (although this could be a bug). Entering the portals once Shadron is down, or entering the portal once after his death is highly advised. I'm not aware of his portal "timing out" like Tenebrons does.

i hope this massive amount of poorly organized information helps! good luck!

Comentado por yodadoe

Quick Tanking Guide for the MT:

The main tank's responsibility for this fight is simply to keep aggro and to avoid the flame waves. Offtank takes care of adds. Here is how you avoid the flame waves:

The island he is on is shaped like a rectangle, with lava all around. As you approach him from the bottom of this rectangle, he is up at the top. Imagine the bottom of this rectangle is zero, and the top of the rectangle is 100. You will want to tank him at 66 on this scale (2/3 the length). You will want to turn the boss sideways, facing either left or right, so your DPS can come at his side, since they'll get cleaved at his head or tail-swiped at the back.

During the fight, lava waves will periodically come from the left or right. When the lava wave comes from the right, there is a large break in the wave at about 50. When the lava wave comes from the left side, there is a break at 25 and 75. So if you position yourself 66, you will be able to strafe a small distance left or right to place yourself in the break in either lava wave and then move back again without actually moving the boss. (He will pivot in place a little.) If you see the emote, and don't see the wave coming from behind the boss, you will know it's coming up behind you. So that first time you dodge that one, you'll be moving blind. But after doing it once, it's easy to repeat.

I made it through the entire fight without being hit by the lava wave once, using this method. You can even tell the melee DPS to just keep even with you and they won't get hit by the waves.

Another note: your ranged should probably follow this same pattern, only standing at 33 on that scale. Then they can move up to 50 and down to 25 to avoid the flame waves, but without having to get close to the boss.

Comentado por 153459

Enraged Lava Blazes can be tranq shotted to remove their enrage effect. They become enraged if they get hit by flame tsunami, gaining 200% hp and 100% to damage dealt, so be sure your hunters are on top of this.

I use a mouseover macro for tranquilizing shot, allowing me to hit any enraged blazes I see quickly, and without having to switch targets.

Comentado por 254627

THE OBSIDIAN SANCTUM HEROIC WALKTHROUGH

GROUP LAYOUT

4 tanks (22k+ unbuffed, 35k+ with buffs)
6 healers
15 DPS
In your group you need a Paladin that is going to use their Fire Resistance aura.
You can alternate the amount of tanks, healers you have, or DPS included but this is how I did it.

TRASH

When you first enter you can go left or right. Either way you go you will fight 2-3 mobs, a mini-boss, another 2-3 mobs, a mini-boss, 2-3 mobs, then the final mini-boss. The mobs are very easy, just tank and spank.

MINI-BOSS ON THE RIGHT SIDE

This boss has 2.2 million health.The fight starts off like any other fight, but at a certain point the boss will open a portal. What you do is assign 2 tanks, 3 healers, and like 2 DPS to stay and fight the boss while everyone else goes in to the portal to kill the adds in the portal. There is usually just 1 82 elite in there. Once the add is dead everyone will be "ported" back to the boss and then you repeat this whole thing until you kill the boss.

MINI-BOSS ON THE LEFT SIDE

This boss has 2.2 million health. Do the same thing you did for the mini-boss on the right side.

MINI-BOSS IN THE MIDDLE

This boss has 2.2 million health and is probably the hardest of the mini-bosses. In this fight you do not want anyone to enter the portal. What will happen is when the portal is summoned everyone keep on the boss then in a few seconds adds will spawn. AoE them down or have a tank assigned to tanking them down. The rest of the fight is the same thing.

SARTHARION

This boss has 7.7 million health and is the main boss in The Obsidian Sanctum. Engage in combat and just fight. Every like 30-60 seconds you will see a message on your screen, "The lava beneat Satharion churls." When you see that, that means that in about 3 seconds a wall of fire will be coming towards your group from either the North or South side (it's random). There is a large opening in the middle of the wall where you want to stand so you don't get damaged by fire. After the wall passes a group of 82 elite lava mobs will be spawned and you want to AoE those down as fast as possible, or have one of the tanks tank them and have a few DPS help out because if you have an overflow of mobs then you will wipe. The rest of the fight is easy, that is all you need to know.

SIDE NOTES

- I did this on Kael'Thas (US) on Thursday, December 17, 2008 and it took just under an hour. The group was a pug full of people in level 72+ blues from quests/dungeons and a few epics. Out of the 25 of us about 3-5 had actually done this raid at all.

- We wiped once and it was on Sartharion because half the raid didn't know what the wall of fire was like. With 13-15 people we got him from 89% to 21% in about 10 minutes.

- If a pug can do it then an organized guild run shouldn't be a problem.

- Good luck and have fun!

Comentado por Celairia

Genuine question -- are the 1-4 emblems that drop for each member of the raid/dependent on how many drakes are up? I know that each drake has an emblem on them, and I wasn't sure the "average total" of emblems earned from this raid.

Comentado por 50907

Tip for tanks: you can reflect the curse the Onyx Sanctum Guardians cast.

Comentado por 218032

From my experience doing this on ten man with no drakes up...

The hardest part of this fight is less the flame wall and more-so controlling the adds. It requires a very good offtank to grab the adds and position them correctly to not get hit by the flame wall. As long as the blazes are not enraged the offtank can basically solo them, but having another melee or a hunter helping kill them is preferable (especially if its your first time).

Enraged Blazes revert to normal after a little while, maybe after a wave or two, as long as you do not have a ton of them and your offtank is not horrible he can and should just ignore them, focus on killing un-enraged blazes. When the blaze becomes un-enraged they, depending on how much damage they have taken, can be left with very little health or even die instantly (due to the nature of hit point buffs). Meaning that its a complete waste to dps down enraged blazes when they basically die on their own.

This is, of course, the ideal situation. If your raid keeps getting hit by flame waves then you will have more blazes and will be forced to DPS them down. if your offtank is not good and lets too many blazes enrage then you will be forced to DPS them down. Ideally, you want to do this fight with having no one save perhaps the tank getting hit by the wave and having at most one enraged elemental on the offtank between each wave. To that end, only practice makes perfect!

Comentado por soupz

Yes. You get 1 extra Valor emblem off Sartharion per drake alive, so the total emblems per run is always 4.

Comentado por maastrix

This boss also drops a ring (droped for me yesterday night on Heroic) Don't know if it also drops on normal:

http://armory.wow-europe.com/item-info.xml?i=40433

stats:

Wyrmrest Band
Binds when picked up
Unique-Equipped
Finger
+41 Stamina
+40 Intellect
Requires Level 80
Equip: Improves haste rating by 32
Equip: Increases spell power by 67.
Equip: Restores 16 mana per 5 sec.

Comentado por 144140

Tankadins should beware of trying to taunt small adds from your MT, as righteous defense will taunt the boss also, dont learn this the hard way :P.

Comentado por Jacuzi

Anybody know what his enrage timer is? Is it like 5 minutes?

Comentado por Healevenmore

Just PuGed this on heroic (admittedly we were pretty imba) and killed him in under 5 and a half minuites with no deaths and only me (A raid healer) the MT and 2 dps actually done it before. Half the raid didn't even bother to dodge walls and we still won first attempt with no deaths.

To be honest this is only hard with the adds up - without its a joke.

Any raiding guild should do it with 1 add no problem.

Comentado por 150909

In case anyone might be fuzzy, the adds enrage if they get hit by the lava waves. Had a few wipes due to some confusion on that part. =P

Comentado por 294803

Heads up for hunters your pet takes full damage from the lava waves so if you want to keep it alive make sure to have it follow you to the safe spot.

Comentado por 144140

Sartharion doesn't have any enrage other than the 10% and when his buddies are killed from what i've seen.

Comentado por 66161

SUCH FLAMMABLE LITTLE INSECTS!

Comentado por gruumz

The wotlk version of Onyxia, but with added abilities and 3 dragons that you can choose to kill or not. The more dragons that are alive, the better rewards.

Comentado por 52086

a lot of people here say that on the middle minidragon boss, not to go in the portal. Well it doesn't really matter if you do or don't. A lot of groups I've gone with had everyone go inside the portal and aoe the eggs down, because they have about half the health as the whelps would have. This way makes it easier but if you don't do it fast enough, they hatch and come with full health, and you just wasted mana.

edit- I don't see why this was rated down, im just explaining some strategies on the seconds drake...

Comentado por 296168

He spawns Fire Elementals that have low hp which are supposed to be tanked by the OT, also if the Lava Tsunamis hit the Elementals, their health triples and enters an enrage mode. At the end of the fight over 6 of these elementals spawns, followed by a lava tsunami. If the lava tsunami the elementals, its a wipe.

Comentado por 150927

Partially correct. He gains abilities based on the number of drakes left up and after an interval calls in the drakes to assist him. I do not know if they all come at once or if they come at regular intervals as my guild has only just recently killed him with a single drake up.

Since the fight becomes more complicated with more drakes, it is advisable to focus on killing the drake once it becomes active. The boss will drop additional emblems of valor for each drake killed while he is engaged, but be warned! Once a drake is dead it stays dead even if you wipe and you only get credit for it if you kill Sarth.

Comentado por fyhr

4 emblems total always.

Why is the lootlist for heroic drops bugged? the drops obviously have been registered, such as https://www.wowhead.com/cata/item=44008 that drops from HC+2/3, why is this not shown in the heroic loot section?

Comentado por 300139

I made an account just to point out the inaccuracy of this post. Each drake that is left alive once Sartharion is engaged will put a debuff on the entire raid. Tenebron's will increase shadow damage taken by 100% (making void zones very lethal), Shadron increases fire damage taken by 100% (making flame waves, fire elementals, and especially engraged fire elementals very lethal), and Vesperon reduces the maximum of HP of everyone by 25%. These debuffs are applied to the entire raid the instant Sartharion is pulled. Once each drake is killed the respective debuff wears off thus making the fight somewhat easier. Also, if you kill any of the adds during the fight with Sartharion, they WILL respawn for your next attempt if you wipe. If you kill them before you pull Sartharion however, they WILL NOT respawn. Killing him with 1 drake up yields an extra item of equal value, 2 drakes up you also get an additional item of higher value, and 3 drakes yields you both of those drops and a Black Drake Mount (10 man) or a Twilight Drake mount (25 man).

Also, each drake comes down at a set interval. Tenebron first, then Shadron, then Vesperon. There is an even amount of time in between each of them before they land. If you are going for one drake, go for Tenebron, just let the eggs hatch, and AoE them down. If you're going for two, go Tenebron and Vesperon, thus giving you the most amount of time to down Tenebron before having to deal with Vesperon. If you are going for three, you probably know more than what I'm typing here.

Comentado por Opala

Experienced an issue on 3 drake with tenebron, really doesnt like staying in melee range of the tank and constantly flies off to the middle of the platform, then flies back, costing us a lot of dps time. Anyone else experienced something like this or have any idea what we may be doing wrong

Comentado por 305207

Do ALL raid members receive the Epic Flying Mount drop when Sartharion is engaged as described above?

Comentado por Colamisu

The info at the top REALLY needs to be corrected. The extra item Sartharion drops with 1 drake up is NOT from his normal loot table. It's a separate table of same-ilvl items. You can tell this simply by the considerably lower drop rate listed on items like the Volitant Amulet. Unfortunately, someone did some trimming on this page so the posts saying what items were a +1 drake only drop from Sartharion are no longer here.

Comentado por CycloneDuke

Boss Emotes

Aggro:

"It is my charge to watch over these eggs. I will see you burn before any harm comes to them!"

Sartharion's calls to his 3 siblings when you leave them alive, and their responses.

"Vesperon, the clutch is in danger! Assist me!" -
"Father was right about you, Sartharion. You ARE a weakling."

"Tenebron! The eggs are yours to protect as well!" -
"It is amusing to watch you struggle. Very well, witness how it is done!"

"Shadron! Come to me! All is at risk!" -
"I will take pity on you, Sartharion, just this once."

Killing a player:

"This is why we call you lesser beings!"
"You are at a grave disadvantage."
"You will make a fine meal for the hatchlings."

Incoming Lava Wave:

"How much heat can you take?"
"Your charred bones will litter the floor!"
"Such flammable little insects...."

Death:

"Such is the price... of failure...."

Comentado por airtonix

I notice that sarth can be pulled off the platform without despawning..

So my question is this : why is all the drakes plus sarth tanked on the platform when its possble for the entire raid to not even be there?
thus avoiding the waves

Comentado por CycloneDuke

If you pull him off the platform in the centre he spams the raid with 2k fireballs, each one leaving a stacking debuff that increases fire damage taken by 2000.
Can't be fought that way then.

Comentado por Inkadog

One: One additional level 200 epic item from his normal loot table.

This is incorrect.

Sartaharion + 1 drake does have its own separate loot table.
With one drake up the following loot-table applies to 10 man:
- Blade-Scarred Tunic
- Gale-Proof Cloak
- Legguards of Composure
- Remembrance Girdle
- Volitant Amulet

This needs to be changed in the information text above, since it is currently very misleading.
Thank you!

Please see http://www.wowwiki.com/Sartharion for loot-tables for +1, +2, +3 drakes up for both 10 and 25 man raids.

Comentado por shadowspa

what i love is that the other raids all have a story behind them that you need to stop the bosses or everyone dies

here its just :raid leader:ok here we go
sartharion:hi guys whats up
*raid kills sartharion*
random raid member:cewl epix

Comentado por 236163

Voice Files:

/script PlaySoundFile("Sound\\Creature\\Sartharion\\CA_Sartharion_Aggro.wav")
/script PlaySoundFile("Sound\\Creature\\Sartharion\\CA_Sartharion_Berserk.wav")
/script PlaySoundFile("Sound\\Creature\\Sartharion\\CA_Sartharion_Breath.wav")
/script PlaySoundFile("Sound\\Creature\\Sartharion\\CA_Sartharion_CallShadron.wav")
/script PlaySoundFile("Sound\\Creature\\Sartharion\\CA_Sartharion_CallTenebron.wav")
/script PlaySoundFile("Sound\\Creature\\Sartharion\\CA_Sartharion_CallVesperon.wav")
/script PlaySoundFile("Sound\\Creature\\Sartharion\\CA_Sartharion_Death01.wav")
/script PlaySoundFile("Sound\\Creature\\Sartharion\\CA_Sartharion_FireSpecial01.wav")

Such flammable little insects!

/script PlaySoundFile("Sound\\Creature\\Sartharion\\CA_Sartharion_FireSpecial02.wav")
/script PlaySoundFile("Sound\\Creature\\Sartharion\\CA_Sartharion_FireSpecial03.wav")
/script PlaySoundFile("Sound\\Creature\\Sartharion\\CA_Sartharion_FireSpecial04.wav")

Comentado por 318650

25 man Sartharion with no drakes is easily doable with less than 20 players for the achievement... in fact our guild has cleared it with only 14 players, no drakes up of course.

Comentado por Batomix

Hey guys, Decided to make a vid of my guild Running Sarth, note that this is our first run so its a bit shakey

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8DtAr_Y8zk

Note: We did much better second time Though, but not recorded. First fight was 7:37, and this weeks was 4:06

Comentado por deolrin

Most dangerous creature ingame. Or at least thats what the official page says.

Comentado por brandonspikes

Patch Notes 3.0.9:
Changed the color of the fissure in the Obsidian Sanctum to be more visually distinct.

Comentado por 168002

call me a noob if you want but im confused. To get the extra drops do you have to leave the drakes alive the whole fight or engage satharion first and kill them as they join.

Comentado por 275344

apparently he has an enrage timer. it's somewhere around 15 minutes. Thats what we get for doing drakes with 17 people and a couple dying.

Comentado por Rufina

Is it possible to blink trough the flame wall (Without taking damage ofc)?

Hmm gotta try itout next time i'm in there

Comentado por 268878

Swimming in the lava for too long will cause you to fly up and into the aggro range of the boss

Comentado por 236163

Swimming in the lava for too long will cause you to fly up and into the aggro range of the boss
Last edited by

Has nothing to do with swimming in the lava for too long; it's the Fire Cyclones - the same which cast Lava Strike at us, that toss people in the air about 80 yards away.

This ability is called Burning Winds, and is only triggered if you walk in one of the cyclones.
It actually doesn't do that much damage... you can ping-pong yourself from one cyclone to another if you're bored while loot is being distributed. It's fun.

Comentado por Supasta

I was wondering for a 3D Sarth run, what hp should a feral druid tank have, one that was tanking Sarth, not the drakes?

Comentado por 317544

OT:ing this boss is a %^&*!. Not only are your DPSs spread all over the place, the adds spawn from any direction, and you and everyone else need to keep moving to avoid the firewalls. In order to simplify the OT:ing, you also need to keep the adds out of the firewall (the grow stronger if they get hit by the fire). Towards the end, a stream of adds appear and you as the OT need to keep them on you long enough for the boss to be killed. The only relief is that the adds don't hit that hard, so you get a few extra seconds to pull them off the DPSs.

Comentado por cizrage

is there any penalty for not standing on the main island where Sarth is?

Comentado por 236163

is there any penalty for not standing on the main island where Sarth is?

Yes.

Edit: Every few seconds, everyone outside the main island will be cast by the above spell, doing fire damage and increasing fire damage they receive for a minute. Sartharion will emote "Burn, you miserable wretches!" when using this ability.

Comentado por balgas

This is the following build that my guild used to down 3 Drakes in 10 Man using 2 Tanks and 2 Healers:
Druid - MT
Death Knight - OT Unholy Spec
Priest - Holy
Pally - Holy
Pally - Ret
Shaman - Enhancement
Rogue - Extra Daggers with Anesthetic Poison
Warrior - Fury
Mage
Hunter

As the DK OT, make sure that you always have your Unholy Blight to pick up all the adds. Wandering Plague is a great talent to aid in this. And always be sure to make use of your Death Grip and Dark Command in order to keep the adds off of the Raid.

The Rogue will switch to his dagger with Anesthetic poison and Fan of Knives when there are too many enraged Lava Spawns.

Sartharion will be tanked by the druid away from where the 3 Drakes will land.

We had no DPS on Sartharion at all in the beginning, all DPS done to him is after the 3 Drakes are downed.

Have the OT stand where the first drake, Tenebron, will be landing. It is a good idea for the OT to throw in 2x Icy Touch's on Sartharion while the MT is pulling him away to the tanking position, as well as using Death and Decay, Bone Armor, and Horn of the Winter to build up your Runic Power. Have a Misdirect on the DK right when he lands. All DPS will be on the drake the moment that he is attackable since the OT should have enough threat on him. Depending on where the firewall is, the OT might have to reposition himself while keeping the drake facing away from the DPS. If you get a firewall coming from the north side right when Tenebron lands, have the melee DPS jump into the lava to avoid the wave while still being able to DPS on the drake.

The eggs from inside the portal hatch about the same time that the second drake, Shadron, lands. So make sure that the OT is there ready to pick up the 2nd Drake right when he lands. Throw a Death and Decay right where the Portal is so you can pick up all of the Whelps that spawn. You should have enough Threat on the 1st Drake so you no longer need to target him and stick on the 2nd Drake. Make sure that all of the adds are always in front of you and never behind you. After the 2nd Drake lands and you have both Drakes, Lava Spawns, and Twilight Whelps on you, refresh your Bone Shield and pop your Icebound Fortitude and Anti Magic Shield. This will reduce damage taken by about 40%. Right after the 1st Drake is dead, move on the aoe the adds and down them. Around this time is when the 3rd Drake Vesperon will be landing.

Make your way over to where the 3rd Drake will land, always walking backwards so you are facing him. All other raid members should move aside so that the Drake does not breath on anyone. After you pick up the 3rd Drake, you want to move them so that they are kind of next to Sartharion and the OT is next to the MT (but not too close). This will allow the healers to heal the tanks more easily. After the 2nd Drake is dead, all the DPS will go into the portal. Inside, have the Ret Pally and Shaman pick up on the healing where necessary. Shadron's add will be the first to be killed followed by Vesperon's. The people outside will tell the ones that are in the portal when it will be safe to zone out to avoid an oncoming firewall. Afterwards, the DPS will be on the 3rd drake trying to down him. The portal will keep on popping up, but do not go in afterwards.

After the 3rd Drake is down, the OT will have to pick up all of the adds that will spawn at this time while the DPS is on Sartharion. Just make sure not to DPS too hard when you're health is low or you will drop like a rock. At this point, either the Ret Pally or the Enhancement Shaman will have to start healing as well. You can always switch tanks so that the DK tanks Sarth and the Druid MT can heal or Tank the adds (whichever works best for you).

Enjoy your new Black Drake and "... of the Nightfall" title!

Comentado por 262127

Its actually possible to simply zerg sartha with 3 adds up at normal mode. You have about 80-90 seconds to do that.(before shadron add will spawn @ portal)
1 tank , 1 heal , 8 phys-dd(4k dps each with out bloodlust/heroism).
At 25% boss , Drakes will enrage and you ll have to kite them by hunter.

Comentado por 137594

Why does Sartharion have a "Berserk" ability in his"Abilities" tab....I'm not aware of any enrage timer he has...

Comentado por 236163

Word has it that Jamieson Price, the voice of Lu Bu in Dynasty Warriors, did the voice for Sartharion.

Why does Sartharion have a "Berserk" ability in his"Abilities" tab....I'm not aware of any enrage timer he has...

Improper tooltip. Sartharion does go berserk when his health drops low, but this comes in the form of a rain of Lava Strikes and Fire Elementals, rather than a direct damage boost.

Comentado por 227139

Sartharion 10-Man killed with 3 Drakes in 76 Seconds

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SeJ79d2-St4

http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=47540.0

Comentado por 193814

Forget all of the above tactics. Just zerg him.^^
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwu9HKICyiE&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mmo-champion.com%2F&feature=player_embedded

Comentado por Pirwzy

For Death Knights tanking Sartharion, if you use Icebound Fortitude when he starts to cast Flame Breath then the buff will last just long enough that he'll usually cast another FB just before it wears off. That's two FBs' damage reduced a good amount for one CD of IF.

Might as well eek out every second's usefulness that you can.

Comentado por Saldor

personally i would say that the fight leaving the drakes alive is like fighting hakkar with his aspect^^ =P

Comentado por 321602

I'm not going to go into as much detail as some because I'm talking about 25 man 3D and it's really a simple fight. After Sartharion is engaged, you will have approximately 30 seconds before Tenebron lands where Sartharion was originally standing. Melee must burn him down as FAST as possible. You do not want a second wave of whelps. About 30 seconds after Tenebron landed, Shadron will join the fight. This is when we blew Bloodlust and personal cooldowns to drop him as fast as possible (faster than Tenebron if possible). 30 seconds after Shadron landed (or thereabouts), Vesperon will join the fight. Shadron should be less than 50% at this point for a successful kill. DPS needs to make sure he drops quickly now, because with both Shadron and Vesperon up, the tank is capable of getting 1hit. Tanks need to work out a cooldown rotation with healers to keep them alive during this phase.

If you can get Shadron down, the fight is basically over (if you have enough people left alive). At this point you take the portal when Vesperon spawns it, tank the adds and kill them, then dps Vesperon, etc etc repeat, until he dies. After that it's just cruising through an easy Sartharion + no drakes kill to a title and chance at a mount!

Comentado por GinjaNinja

I don't think this has been said yet, but the flame wall can be resisted.
I found this out by accident while chasing down the adds on my DK.

Comentado por DaGorthok

All of these guides are great and stuff... but does anyone know why we are killing sartharion? I have yet to hear what he did that makes him such a bad guy (other than him being of the black dragonflight... but there are black dragons in wyrmrest so that logic doesn't always work.)

Comentado por kaze950

Has anyone noticed since patch 3.1 the fire walls tend to show the animation, then disappear for like 2 seconds, and reappear? It threw me off the last time I did this.

Comentado por Draol

Now skinnable as of patch 3.1.

Comentado por 169612

My guild done Sarth + 3D Zerg style.
Setup
DK tank
Feral druid DPS
3 rogues
Ret paladin
FFB mage
Afflic lock
Elemental sham
holy pala

all of the 8 DPS had +5k DPS, We managed to down him in 78 seconds.

When Sarth got 25%, tank died and rogues tanked the boss using Evasion to avoid attacks and Cloak of shadows to avoid 1 breath. and we got him downed :P

Comentado por pedter

I'm curious about Sartharion's flame breath - how often does he use it? Does it have a reliable cooldown? Can I predict when its going to hit, but 10 seconds in advance?

I've main tanked him several times with my druid, both on regular and heroic (with no drakes up - I PuG it), but I'm interested in healing it with multiple drakes up. I'm trying to figure out if I can time a 3 stack of lifebloom to bloom very shortly after each of his breaths to quickly get the tank back to full.

In short: can I time lifebloom to reliably bloom just after each breath, or does he use it at random?

Comentado por sasexw

Something not very useful but i think it's worth a notice, Sartharion is a "flame"drake right?If you skin him , you loot Icy dragonscale,but you are in a room full of lava, how strange

Comentado por 260739

So, does anyone know exactly how long you have to do the zerg tactic? I.E. When, exactly does drake II spawn his first portal? Or, does Sartharion go immune right when the second drake is targetable?

Comentado por 418800

If u can find the group that has a great healer and great tank and dps that are all around 5k dps u can just Zerg Sarth....

Complete Pug on Thunderhorn 1 tank 1 healer 8 dps just downed him easily...

This might be a easier alternative to doing it the Normal Way

Comentado por 418800

We had the setup of:
Pally Tank
2 Ret Pallys
2 Rogues
1 Shaman
1 Priest Healer
1 Hunter
1 Druid
1 Warrior

Comentado por 412372

i like squrills

Comentado por ben0214

Sartharion can be "zerged" down with all 3 drakes alive.
Zerged meaning just blow all you cooldowns and kill Sartharion before the 2nd drake (shadron) lands. If he isnt dead by that time shadron's acolyte will put the immunity bubble on Sarth and it will be a Wipe.

Group comp is:
1 tank (tanks both Sarth and Tenebron)
1 Healer
8 Dps - all need to pull 4.5k or better.

Most groups tend to lean towards full melee or full ranged to maximize raid dps buffs but any group is fine so long as you can pull the required dps.

Also the last key part to zerging sarth 3D is have a dps (warrior/pally/dk/druid) taunt Tenebron off the tank and kite him away when sartharion is about 22% HP . The reason being that Tenebron will enrage and start hitting the tank for 30k.

If all goes well you should have yourself a nice mount and "of the nightfall" title.

Edit : i fail didn't reading all the comments T_T

Comentado por sjal

What i have to do to get title? I killed him many times (didn't kill other drakes) and i didn't get title :< What i'm doing wrong?

Comentado por Ninja1

Going for 10man 3Drakes.
Be sure to have well geared ppl who can output atleast 5k DPS nowdays.
Have a Priest Healer and always a shaman in the raid , this is one of the most important Raid setup.

If you are gonna go with Kiting the first drake when landing, have a Hunter with offspecc BM and Exotic Pet, one of the glyph which can be usefull here is Glyph of Mend pet.

As soon the 1st drake lands, the Hunters pet will be on passive and the hunter takes on Aspect of Cheetah NOT Pack. Missdirecting the Drake to the Pet and run away from the entire raid, and keep healing the Pet while he gets fireboll.

IF everything done correctly, you only need to succes at kiting for not more than 30 sec.

Doing this as guild farming for drakes and works very well.

Gl there

Comentado por Bexer

Im also wondering, can 25m 3d be zerged if you have a setup with like 1 tank, 3 healers and 21 dps all with 5k+? Or is there something different between 10 and 25 that would make that implausible.

Comentado por Archangel76

By the way, something interesting for DK tanks.....
I was tanking him and his little buddies last night, when I discovered Spell Deflection can proc off his breath weapon. I was a bit surprised. I took one hit that would have gone for 40k (would have crushed me), but it got bounced down to about 50-40% of that (it triggered WotN also).

Comentado por hakestake

This is quite amazing => a DK tank have soloed this in 10man! (no drakes) This proves how much gear has improved since the start and end of the expansion :P
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epZB7alg4Tk&playnext_from=TL&videos=-Q1xJ12glw0&feature=sub

Comentado por Octapulse

Seems that there was a recent change to make the OS 3D zerg more 'user friendly'- at the time of posting, the death of Sartharion causes any Twilight Drakes still alive to become untargettable and no longer attack the raid. Instead, they circle around Sarthy's little island, almost like they're congratulating you. Strangely enough, the small elemental adds remain active after the drakes disengage and you are also stuck in combat until you leave. Adds still enrage etc. when Sarthy is on low health- seems this is only a user friendly adaptation to save you a wipe to angry drakes after your zerg.

Comentado por Phrewb

Wow, just did this with 10 men on the 25 man difficulty easily. Didn't mean to though, leader didn't realise it was on 25 difficulty setting, and we got more loot, and Less is More achi :)

Comentado por Poraq

a 3 drake run now rewards 64 justice points

Comentado por rzzr

After latest patch you need to have a skinning level of 470 to skin the beast...

Comentado por Bannitschuwa

Just did a sath10 3D run with five 85's and its was really easy. easy mount farming for ppl who still need it

Comentado por 735077

Aprox. 1:45 P.M., 1/1/2011, is that a year first? lol (also, i 4 manned it, 1 tank (crappy), 2 crappy dps, and a crappy level 80 healer)

Comentado por Wootbulle

5-Manned today! ( 3 Dragons )

Setup:
-85 Disc Priest ( Healer )
-85 Assass Rouge ( DPS - 10,6k )
-85 Prot Paladin ( Tank - 5,1k )
-85 Enh Shaman ( DPS - 14,1k )
-85 MM Hunter ( DPS - 9,3k )

Fight length: 75 seconds

Members alive on Boss Death - 1/5 (Stuped tank didnt pwn dragonz D: )

Can be 3manned. (2DPS 1 Hybrid dps/heal)
Can be soloed (Insane DK)

Easy Peasy mount to get these days :-D

Comentado por Fizzles

A word of advice: If you've never set foot in OS10 during Wrath and go back to 6-man the place with all 3 drakes up, you won't have to spend 4 weeks doing it +0, +1, +2 then +3. You'll get all 4 achievements instantly.

Comentado por 729812

Just 6 manned 25 man 3d today with:

Feral Druid
Blood DK
Resto Shaman
Shadow Priest
Destruction Warlock
Ret Paladin
Elemental Shaman

We tried zerging, but ended up coming a little short before Sarth became immune. We then decided to do it the "correct" way and had little trouble. Bear tanked the drakes and Sarth, DK tanked the little adds. DPS (all over 10k) burned down each drake, went into the portals, and it was game over.

Best of luck to others who do it. Good times.

Comentado por myrddinde

Just soloed Sartharion 10 man as Level 85 Enhancement Shaman, was easier than expected.

Video
Post

It is possible (at times hard) to solo the Thrash, but Sartharions Lieutenants were quite easy. Needed help on Shadron, since he despawns while you are in Twilight Realm (he becomes immune to damage) and solved that by having one afk friend there.

2g per thrashmob
15-18g per Lieutenant
and 170g on Sartharion

Hf trying!

Comentado por Hannes37

Can this be done without off-tank if you only got 85's nuking him down before first drake? With the tank tanking the dragons coming afterwards of course.

Comentado por 778530

I just did 25-man with some guildies and some other people with like 12 people in total (Including tank/healer spots) :)

I managed to get the Twilight Drake AND the 22-slot bag in the same trip. :D

Comentado por Aeliel

Two-manned the 10-man version with 3 drakes up today. Feral druid tank with avg ilvl 355, restoration shaman healer with mostly 372 gear.

Basic strategy: move out of bad -> tank should pick up all adds -> DPS order: Sartharion until Tenebron lands, then Tenebron, Shadron and Vesperon -> once Vesperon is dead the tank burns cooldowns and the healer goes inside the portal to kill Shadron's acolyte and remove the immunity shield from Sartharion -> kill Sartharion, profit.

A bit more in-depth strategy on my blog post about it.

Comentado por elektroneg

soloed 10man +0 on my 80 lvl DK, gear- max possible mastery ( had around 58), tank gear with 3 or 4 dps. used mastery+ resist elixir, drums, lvl80 runescroll of fortitude. dont remember exact stats, had 58 mastery, around 15+15% dodge+parry, 177 fire resist.

important to have butchery for rune power regen from killing adds and unholy command for deathgrip cd reset to grab them fast from lava wall, so they wont get the enrage. The fight wasnt very hard with fire res, didnt use any cd on 2nd kill before 12%. 12% soft enrage was fun, had to manage all CD to avoid 1shot- army, antimagic ( with glyph), rune weapon, vampiric blood, icebound, healpot ( got alchemy).
http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/3230/wowscrnshot060411091435.jpg
week later: http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/7126/wow2011060903530106.jpg

PS gear screenshot http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/9247/wowscrnshot060911083836.jpg

Comentado por Ravenhair

Duo'd him with level 85 Blood DK (don't remember his ilvl but it is higher than mine in Resto). I was Resto Druid in ilvl 360. Took us quite awhile but was fun. Sadly, we went there for the achievement and not for the mount so we killed the drakes before him. Anyways, the fight is easy as long as you kill the spawning fireadds. And I mean it, kill them. Is annoying to try to heal through the damage and run around the platform with 20 adds after you.
Also, just try to find a place at Sartharion's side, since he does have Tail Lash and Firebreath. Forgot his tail and he knocked me down and I got hit by lava wave and then I was thrown around the fiery vortexes on the lava. So if you have to choose between his head or tail, take head. Doesn't do so much damage.

Comentado por emmure

how many dps do you need to do 3D at 85 now?

Comentado por Sammiches

If anyone is curious, it is possible to kill Sartharion with all 3 drakes up on 10 man mode with just 3 people. Was able to do it with an arcane mage (~30k dps), combat rogue (~18k dps), and a blood death knight (~12k dps).

In terms of how much damage we took during the fight, I personally took virtually nothing as the tank due to the fun blood mastery, mage took a massive hit from the drake due to a late taunt, and the rogue was still pretty healthy. We all survived with an achievement and a drake.

Comentado por stormdruid

How to kill as of patch 4.3.3

We had a few tries to work out the best way but we easily did this with 4 characters (Tank, Healer and 2 DPS).

You wont be able to kill Sarth before she goes immune with only 4 people so you just need to kill the Drakes as they land and ensure that the small fire adds are kept under control. For the tank you must ensure that tank cds are used when 2 drakes have landed as the damage, including the 100% fire, 100% Shadow damage and 30% Health reduction debuff, starts to make the damage on the tank quite high.

(Everyone must remember to avoid taking damage, avoid fire walls and dont stand int he void zones as they will heavily damage you and could kill you.)

Remember that as soon as Sarth goes immune the 2 dps must take the portal and kill the 1 or 2 adds inside the portal then exit and keep killing the Drakes and small adds. Once the 2nd drake is down the damage eases off and you just need to kill the last drake and clear up the adds; then its a normal kill.

While sorting the tactics we did wipe a few times whilst we worked out what we needed to do and we had 2 wipes where we didn't kill the small fire adds and we ended up overwhelmed and the tank died so keep on top of them.

Once killed we repeated 3 more times as we took 1 main toon with 3 alts so we could all get the drake on our mains in one week although the thing to note was Blood DK was easy to heal as was our Bear Tank - the 2 Pala tanks we used took a noticeable increase in damage.

Good luck and enjoy the mount!

Comentado por cheekyboy99

This will likely be soloable with full BiS heroic gear with 3 drakes up - I got her to 300k as a feral druid as ilvl 400.

Comentado por Thrallscream

Ok, just tried soloing it on my Blood Dk (180hp, iLv 390). The fight itself seems easy, but damn Vesperon gets in the way! I tried killing him, and he casts that damn shield. 100% immunity. Go through the portal, baam, reset. So I tried killing the main boss with Vesp still up. Same thing, only he makes Sarth immune, and then you go through the portal and baam, reset. Am I missing something, or is this raid not soloable because of this mechanic? A few people here claim to have done it, I don't see how it's possible. The shield goes up like 20 seconds into the fight. Thoughts?

Comentado por Vahlok

Did 10 man with a level 82 tank, an 85 healer, and 3 85 dps. We had to bring in an extra dps because our dps was so high we kept pulling off the tank. The higher dps helped outweigh the tank not keeping aggro on 3 DS level dps lol

Comentado por 3xul

He is soloable by a level 85 Demonology Warlock.

Just use the most simple tactic and zerg him down.
Once he reaches 25% and a drake ist still alive (which is inevitable) use demonic cycle and run for your life since he goes enrage.

For better illustration I included a youtube video of the fight:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJreJYNrHDw

Comentado por Allakhazam

There is a little trick on how to kill Tenebron much easier to beat and prevent hatchlings from spawn, especially if you're attempting to do Sartharion with all 3 Drakes alive.
Also check out how to easy kill sartharion with 3 drakes

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