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Comentado por Alisdair

Really nice weapon over all. Great for twinks as well. A high damage weapon so it is good for Sinister Striking on your Rogue.

Comentado por Martinelli

This item has the same stats than Cruel Barb: https://www.wowhead.com/cata/item=5191

Comentado por 4928

Better for classes who can't use swords like shaman.

Comentado por supermidgetmob

This mace is good for just about any player it dose significant damage and it has a chance to poison the target I had it and i loved it. (=

Comentado por Sinborn

What I never got about this mace is that's it's not main-hand only, but's it's way too slow to want on an offhand. Disregarding that, I would put it in my offhand when I wanted to ambush/backstab something, equipping a green dagger. If I was gonna sinister strike, I would use this in main hand.

Comentado por Transfat

Something to note. The proc is not something you can rely on to proc even once or twice in a bg.

Sometimes it never procs at all.

The sinister strikes on this wep is godly tho.

Comentado por 103553

Does anyone know if the damage from proc is modified by +nature damage?

Comentado por 53267

Cruel Barb is always better for DPS than this.

Twinks considering getting this would do so for toe-to-toe duels/arena fights where your opponent is likely to bandage. 15 seconds of poison has a good chance to interfere with that.

Comentado por 150798

It's not the same thing because thats a Cruel Barb: https://www.wowhead.com/cata/item=5191 sword.

Comentado por 156354

For a rogue twink, the Barb (or even Wingblade) is a much better choice than this. With +stats, you dont have to worry about relying on a proc; and i can tell you that this weapon does not proc very often.

Comentado por 120730

The chance on hit deals 35 damage for those of you who doesn't wanna count yourself.

Comentado por Rephir

I got this with my BE paladin and I noticed an increase to my crit chance when I equipped it, despite the fact that it does not mention crit rating. Anyone else notice that? Do I just not know something about BE paladins?

Comentado por 129077

procced 33 times in a sfk run, i was dual weilding it

Comentado por 127395

I use this in off hand and Sentinels Blade is MH for backstab, because I prefer offensive, but it is very good and if you are looking for a twink mace i would reccomend getting this.

Comentado por NokoFace

How would this fair for a Enh Shammy twink? I'm looking for a Nice DW set for Enhancement Twink but can't find anything good. How does this compare(MH) with what else(OH)?

Comentado por goatpwnr1

i have this mace. its a very good mace dor palys. stinging viper and the shield dropped by kresh in wc together would make a great combo.

Comentado por 166824

Strange no-one has noticed this, but to me and my friends, this weapon is known as the Toilet Brush.

Comentado por 491688

wud this be any gud for a priest? or is there an item better for one? but at lvl 19 req. or lower!

Comentado por Deathbang

This weapon has the exact same stats as https://www.wowhead.com/cata/item=5191 except that it doesn't and the two don't share any stats with each other besides weapon damage. Other than that though, they're exactly alike! Another fun fact: this item has the same stats as https://www.wowhead.com/cata/item=19019. /endsarcasm

Comentado por Oitsumeru

Just as a note: this weapon does follow transmogging rules, and can be used as such.

Comentado por cybernoid

If you are a caster, consider transmogrifying its lookalike, Blackfathom mace (due to it being MH, not 1H) with Lord Sakrasis' Sceptre, thus dual-wielding serpents :-)

Comentado por Kanariya

Proc rate is really low, I'd say <5%. The Veneno DoT has around a ~10% chance to crit and crits for 150% damage (11-12). Recount has shown the DoT as making up 0.4% of my overall damage as an Enhancement Shaman in both full clears of SFK & Wailing Caverns. The weapon itself is nice, but you really won't notice the proc at all.

Comentado por Thottbot

I love this mace. if you get with a good group, then you'll probably get it. I just got into a fight last night with a group on my 21 orc rogue alt about this. Rules were roll on what you can use. I rolled and equipped when I won it, then they started bashing me saying "rogues can't use 1h maces". I used it offhand, main hand Wingblade, good combo. It's just funny that they didn't notice it was in my left hand.

Comentado por Thottbot

im a 19 twink and i have skeletal mace( or something) in mainhand and this in offhand...i tear stuff up

Comentado por Thottbot

I ran my friends rogue twink through so he can get 2 to Duel weild. Took 4 times to get the first to drop, and 12 more for the second. Whole lotta Armor of the Fang

Comentado por Thottbot

I am a lvl 31 troll mage and i went throu with a shammy (26)to help him get this just after he died i killed lord pytho... and this droped....but the poor shaman was to far away to beable to roll on it :(

Comentado por Thottbot

There's now way this thing has a 25% drop rate, I've done WC 20 times at least and I've killed pythas every time and I've never see it drop, I can't be THAT unlucky, can I? >.o

Comentado por Thottbot

I've seen it drop a dozen times on different servers. Just ran a guildmate through WC last night to get it and it dropped on the first try. He must live right :)

Comentado por Thottbot

want to get even better? Get a shadowfang and a cruel barb! The poison effect is worth giving up for hte extra 12 AP, since it happens every hit on the barb, and it also helps other weapons as well! Shadowfang is the only weapon under lvl 20 that has over SEVENTEEN D{S, add that extra attack power and you're owning, nice with a crusader/fiery on the shadowfang and a lifesteal on the barb, but anything is good, those just make it better, and while you're at it, if you want to be inane, get Defias chest, Fang legging, Feet of the Lynx, and Deviate Scale Belt. There you go. You do over 200 damage a hit like that.

Comentado por Thottbot

I got myself two of these in a row when i went WC for 2 times and i wanted to ask u guys,is it worthy having two of these or its better having 2 Assasin Blades?Or 2 Cruel Barbs?Or a Shadowfang and a Assasin Blade/Cruel Barb/Stinging Viper?Tell me ur opinion please.

Comentado por Thottbot

I am a rogue and i just put fiery in my Stinging vipers and i just OWN in WSG.I also have full enchants in my armor.Only those guys with Shadowfangs can defeat me.I farm myself SFK with my mage now to take those u told me but its too hard to drop...

Comentado por Thottbot

I've run WC about 20 times now, I'm a level 25 duel-wielding fury warrior and i really want the stinging viper but it's only ever dropped once, and the time it did drop a druid WHO ALREADY *!@#ING HAD IT rolled on it and won... if you could kill members of your own faction he would be so dead right now... Stupid Druids.

Comentado por Thottbot

This mace looks sick. Along with the DPS its putting out youve got your self a wepon that ownes

Comentado por Thottbot

For all classes that can dual weild, offhand doesn't do as much damage as your mainhand. Your offhand doesn't swing as often, doesn't affect your special moves (ss/hs/etc) and ofhand procs don't go off nearly as often as mainhand procs. What this means is that the best offhand weapon is either fast for rogue poisons or something with stats so it boosts the damage from your main hand. A good example in this level range is the Cruel Barb which can sit in your offhand and the 12AP will boost the damage of your mainhand where as this only adds a DoT that will (when in your off hand) rarely go off. Then when you get enchants 15 agi (rog/hun) or 15str (war/shm) is the offhand enchant that will boost your *total* damage output the most since it adds to your mainhand and special move damage a lot more than an offhand proc would.

Dual weilding does add more damage because you are swinging another weapon, but the key is to think of the offhand weapon like sqishies think of their offhand, "What can I put here that will boost my stats the best?" A squishy will hold something in offhand that boosts their damage (or healing) and a melee is best off holding something that boosts their mainhand damage as well.

Comentado por Thottbot

Who that #$%^ is Twink69 !
For me he looks like a complete angry noob that dont know enough too write those stuffs...

Comentado por Thottbot

does the sting effect on Stinging Viper make up for the 12 AP points on the cruel barb? Or am I dreaming?

Comentado por Thottbot

Unfortunately, since Stinging Viper binds when picked up, it can't be sold (or by extension bought) on the AH

Comentado por Thottbot

I have 2 of these on my hands and i do 200 damage each swing

Comentado por Thottbot

I am a 19 twink and I dont if i should put it in the main hand with the legionnair's sword in off hand or the other way around?

Comentado por Thottbot

i suppose im just luky but ive soloed wc 3times first 2 times this dropped also i got leggings of fang 3 times and venomstrike once i wish i got non Bop items thoough

Comentado por Thottbot

30 silver 18 copper. Says at the top of the page.

Comentado por Thottbot

This would look sweet with Lifestealing

Comentado por Thottbot

if i saw a twink rogue with these in a bg and he was serious id lul quite alot

Comentado por Thottbot

ya, this is a nice twink wep cause it is just as good as cruel barb, they are same speed w/ same dps

Comentado por Thottbot

i got this on my lvl 14 shaman that i am twinking (enhance spec. and i was just makin sure if this is the best shammy wep at 19 to use with Deadskull Shield link -https://www.wowhead.com/cata/item=3761/escudo-crânio-morto ....i know shamans can use 2h now before 20 but this is stronger than most 2hrs out there for this lvl and the shield stats help, so any better shammy wep?

Comentado por Thottbot

Its a good twink item i had one one a shaman without enchants on any items. I used Burnished Sheild with it and and enhancement spec. I rocked but the one bad thing is that it didn't proc often. otherwise it owns. Good luck in the BGs!

Comentado por Thottbot

The only thing I like about this item for 19 twinking is the proc makes it impossible for someone to gouge, sprint, and bandage. That is all. Otherwise. Shadowfang/Assassins or Theifs for SS'ing or Assassin/Cruel Barb for Backstabs and Ambushes FTW

Comentado por Thottbot

this thing or cruel barb...twink

Comentado por Thottbot

kk, for rogue twinks this sux, cruel barb is so much better, it has same stats but with 12ap instead of a proc for dmg over time.

for shaman twink this is best way to go

for warrior get cruel barb

this is still a good weapon but not the best

btw i know the person that posted that they crit with this for 100 was 2 years ago. but that isnt that great my lvl 19 has duel cruel barbs non twink and hits for 157-186 crits my actual twink hits for 187-202 so hope this information helps even though it wasnt that detailed, but believe me its the truth if u dnt wanna spend the money for shadowfang

Comentado por Thottbot

Just replying to a few posts before. Someone mentioned a shammy roll on this and he explained that this is totally pointless.

My shammy will have outgrown you most probably but i still have the mace and omw i would like to bang this viper so hard i'll run around nacked, no jewels !, so it will take just a little longer.

Pffff, shammy dont use mace ... i still can't believe i've ever read it. Besides axes, they're crap mostly under 25 and tend to have a faster swingspeed, maces are the only 1H we can use. Only elemental shammy should use fast daggers with flametongue because they rely on spellcrit. Ok i'll continue a bit. Enhancement gets + 30% swingspeed with flurry when a melee hit crits so you need the slowest possible, bit like S&D; for rogues. Flurry is filled up at 29, true but my uber twink shammy has this mace too with LS and that procs like mad because in PVP you will get more procs from slower weaps, it doesn't make sense according to all the genius here but everyone know it's true.

So if you want to be a real twink rogue leave this for shammy (if there is one ofc )and buy an ass. blade or shadaowfang or hey, both of them. If you cant afford it lvl up and come back when you are 70 and make a twink. That, to be honest, is the way twinking is made for. To be away from your crazy hardcore raiding guild or if you're tired of AV and cant' play arena for a few days. Just... don't make the same class as your main but play a class you don't really know that well yet. You will be supprised how much fun it is !

Because there are too many nab rogues around at 19 i hope this post helps a bit. Twinks are equally devided between horde and alli, maybe it differs a bit from battlegroup or time of the year, if you're green, ending up in twinkzone can be horror or pure joy ! and thats what wow is :S

Comentado por Thottbot

can anyone tell me what this would hit for with firey enchant and flametongue on it? id just like to get an idea what my shammy's hit for

Comentado por Thottbot

I got this babe at lv 17 and its really godd and i cant w8 to use it. (Takkar 18 Shammy, Destromath) It Rocks!

Comentado por Thottbot

is it okay for a warrior to use?

Comentado por Thottbot

This isn't good for rogues. Their is no agi on it. The theifs blade is way better.

Comentado por Allakhazam

Had this drop for my 20 undead warrior fortunately I was the only one in the group who could use it, so won it. This and the sword reward for the quest make a killer dwing combo.

Comentado por Allakhazam

I got Seedcloud buckler on one run so im hoping to get this on another, although it has no stats and aparantly it doesnt look great it has a cool name and good DPS, the drop rate is also pretty good.

Comentado por Allakhazam

This weapon really really hates me :(.

Comentado por Allakhazam

my fury war got a boost in wc and got this and cobrahn grasp.i want a 2nd 1 (nice dualwield look:) ) but all he drops are those boots now:(.great wep and VERY nice look.is there any other wep that looks like this?

Comentado por Allakhazam

This and the quest reward sword make a killer dwing combo. I agree that the graphics are a little over the top but still a good weapon.

Comentado por Allakhazam

Got this together with the Seedcloud buckler and I think it's a nice alternative for a 1 H / shield shaman.
It has got no stats, but the DPS is nice for the level.
Minor annoyance... the weapon looks like a shoehorn :P

Comentado por Allakhazam

For people wondering, if you get 2 of these, and both of them proc the poison, they do NOT stack. there is no real reason to get 2 to dw other then hitting dmg, you cannot have poison dotx2 on anything. but the proc is kind of rare, so being able to dw means it happens alot more.

Comentado por Allakhazam

Can some one help me get this item im on the server Sargeras and my name is SoUp

Comentado por Allakhazam

man, nothing pisses off shamans like out rolling them on this and then d.e.ing it in front of them.

got blacklisted for a while because of that.

Comentado por Allakhazam

woops srry i was mistaken he drops the CHEST the boots are som1 else

Comentado por Allakhazam

whoops, double post

Comentado por Allakhazam

what lvl (minimum) do people want to do WC?

Comentado por Allakhazam

I got this on the Cenarion Circle RP server the other day had a guild mate Lvl 55 run me thru for DE materials. It is easiest way to get it if Your on that server look me up ill run ya LVL 58 warrior Goerian

Comentado por Allakhazam

Great if your a rogue! Why you may ask? The answer is simple! Lvl 19 warsong gulch! You can dual wield them!

Just great, I have 2 on my rogue! Just add a fiery weapon enchant for ownage.

why the hell would u want to dual wield 2.80 speed weapon? they dont stack proc and they attack slow like $%^&. the whole point of fiery is to proc them on the fastest weapon as possible, u get two pearl handled dagger and the fiery alone works better than the %^&* proc from the mace. plus you also get stats, able to use ambush and backstab and save your self 2 hrs for farming WC.

Comentado por Allakhazam

So I was looking at weapons for a rogue twink, and came along to weapons. This weapon, and cruel barb. They have the EXACT same stats, except for the fact that Cruel Barb gives you +12 attack power, and Stinging Viper gives you a chance to do 35 damage (chance on hit, DOT). Since Deadmines is in Westfall, and Wailing Caverns is in The Barrens, if it would really make a difference with which weapon you went with? Besides Cruel Barb looking A TON better, which is really the best, and would it be good if you duel wielded this AND, Cruel Barb? Or will Cruel Barb always beat this? Thanks.

Comentado por Allakhazam

I don't know how many times this thing has dropped and I've never ever won the roll. I suck.

Comentado por Allakhazam

i just had a lvl 60 warr run me through wc and it droped i was very happy it finally droped swo now im a twinky with 5 blues from wc

the sheild does good with it to the kroms back or something like that so i own in bg with this mace and sheild

Comentado por Allakhazam

This thingy rules ^^ I mean, Cruel Barb looks nicer but this simple looks... how to say? Cooler? Yeah, Cruel Barb is better for rogues etc, but AGI makes like nothing for a shaman for example, and by the way, a shaman cannot wear swords. So you shall not really compare it to cruel barb, because cruel barb will always be better :p If Blizz dont make massive changes ofcourse.
Fact remains it owns - i can't wait to use it on my level 16 Shamy ^^ It'll own ^^

Ah - and - rogues with Dps weapons SUX LIKE CRAP LOL - rogues would have "attack each 5 secs" weapons if they could - with only double dmg then the daggers. WHY? Because these weapons would be ownage because the rogue still attacks fast with sinister. Think logically, slower but more dmg weapon is better :]

Comentado por Allakhazam

I am a now a level 22 Tauren Druid. I got this along with the Living Root. Shoulda won Embrace of the Viper "Leggings" but some other guy rolled on it that couldn't use em. (Beat me by 1 frigging point on the roll) Also had the "Viper" Footpads drop in same instance and someone else outrolled me. Pretty good haul even if I didn't get the 2 pieces of Viper stuff.

Oh my level 33 Rogue still uses the Viper in his off hand.

Edited, Tue Mar 29 10:33:12 2005

Comentado por Allakhazam

2 runs on my twink, both times they droped, and the 19 blue bow and leggings of the fang, i guess i was really lucky

Comentado por Allakhazam

Yea I was in group with 2 friends of mine, one was a lvl 31 shaman and the other a 19 warlock, I'm a lvl 19 rogue. Pythas dropped this, the 31 shaman passed on the roll of course, I thought I would get this, but then my really stupid friend who is now the 'stupid noob' to me, rolled for it with his warlock and rolled a 96. He won it and can't use and can't give it to me. I really felt like kicking him in the nuts. He was sitting 8 feet from me so it would have been really easy to do. I just left. So let it be known, the undead warlock named Brane on bloodhoof server is a 'Stupid Noob'. Do yourself a favor and get a Lobatomy before joining a group with this guy.

Comentado por Allakhazam

i have this and a wing blade on a lvl 22warrior

Comentado por Allakhazam

wow, gratz. i can only take on the lvl 16 and 15 elites.

i want to get this so i can equip it with my Redbeard Crest. (found in WC) then i will have better weapons than my medicine staff. lol.

is he a rare spawn? boss? plz i'd like to no

Comentado por Allakhazam

this item is badass. b4 i had this i was using 2 tail knifes (something liek that). Got this 1 in instance from WC i was like holy sh*t i won the loot!I was so happy that momment lol.if any1 in gillneas needs help getting this am a lvl 21 rogue. Just get a warrior and priest n i will go

Comentado por Allakhazam

I had a priest select need for this item.. total waste

Comentado por Allakhazam

This is a ver nice item to have for a rogue at level 20-ish. However, in my opinion, its just cheesy-looking. :p

Comentado por Allakhazam

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Awful Default Decent Good Excellent Yea I was in group with 2 friends of mine, one was a lvl 31 shaman and the other a 19 warlock, I'm a lvl 19 rogue. Pythas dropped this, the 31 shaman passed on the roll of course, I thought I would get this, but then my really stupid friend who is now the 'stupid noob' to me, rolled for it with his warlock and rolled a 96. He won it and can't use and can't give it to me. I really felt like kicking him in the nuts. He was sitting 8 feet from me so it would have been really easy to do. I just left. So let it be known, the undead warlock named Brane on bloodhoof server is a 'Stupid Noob'. Do yourself a favor and get a Lobatomy before joining a group with this guy.

Lol, don't be angry at a friend becaus you lost a roll for a level 19 mace. It's a game. Besides, you'll be getting better weapons in a bit with RFK.

Comentado por Allakhazam

i got this on my first complete run throo WC, i was dum enough to sell it..i shoulda used it...:(

Comentado por Allakhazam

I am a lvl 22 Tauren Shaman on Burning Blade: Condiment. I recently got his and got lesser beastslaying put on it /cheer. It rocks, and just today, i got my second one! /ecstatic. w00t!

P.S. If I knew how to post pictures, i would send one in!

Comentado por Allakhazam

Was grinding my way through WC, dropped, group was a warlock, 2 hunters, a shammy and me (a druid) everyone passed on it to give me it. Also we had 3 pieces of The Fang armor set drop, and they were nice/smart enough, to allow me to have it.

Comentado por Allakhazam

Is stinging viper/cruel barb better or is cruel barb x2 better for rogue?

Comentado por Allakhazam

Great if your a rogue! Why you may ask? The answer is simple! Lvl 19 warsong gulch! You can dual wield them!

Just great, I have 2 on my rogue! Just add a fiery weapon enchant for ownage.

Edited, Fri Dec 2 20:21:43 2005

Comentado por Allakhazam

How often does this proc?

Comentado por Allakhazam

had a 60 druid run my 18 warrior thru got Coabrahns Grasp, Stinging Viper, Seedcloud buckler, Venomstrike at 19 im a tewink lol

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