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Comentado por 201281

Good: It allows a meta-gem.
Bad: Engineers were already able to make epic class-specific goggles with extra bonuses AND a meta-gem slot.

Difference: Maybe the materials for this one will be easier to get?

Comentado por Vifor

Maybe is random-enchanted +meta. Cogspinner Goggles+meta ;P

Comentado por Yuka2

It just doesnt have stats yet ... dont worry ... 200 item level means good stats

Comentado por 4375

I really hope they buff these. Right now these are inferior to the helm from the 10-man Naxx. Compared to those, these have lower crit, ap, and no expertise.

Compared to the BC goggles that were comparable to the T5 helm (from a 25-man end boss), these are a huge disappointment.

Comentado por 69684

Has anyone else noticed that they say "Binds when equipped" instead of "Binds when picked up" unlike the previous Engineering helms?

Comentado por aramada998

These Goggles are no longer BoE!

They are Bind on Pickup, and can only be crafted by specific classes!

Comentado por 151952

boo, i just realized why they would be boe...A lot of classes before said the old rogue goggles would be best for their dps. If the goggles were still boe, then a rogue could make the goggles and sell them to a class that needed them.

Comentado por 251343

requires 400 skill to wear, but you need 440 skill to create these googles

Comentado por 252957

anyone else haveing a issue with finding the trainer for these all i see is the greensight ones /cry

Comentado por 255699

These are currently unavailable for druids. It is considered a bug, but GMs can't teach you any recipes and there is no ETA on the fix. With the current ore prices ammo and scopes are not profitable, and getting the money you've spent on the last 10 points from crafting guns back would take 4 years. Engineering is left with a couple of slots saved on tools, a mailbox every 24h and gimped enchants. Sad.

Comentado por 246285

Wow, i'm genuinely surprised.

These goggles are crafted with pre-raid items. You shouldn't expect them to go above and beyond higher levels of gear just because you're an engineer.

They made that mistake in BC with the previous goggles. The only bad thing is that you might actually have to compete with other people for a head slot upgrade.

Comentado por Tyroneexe

Confirmed by GM's on Executus.EU to be unavailable for Druids. This is an issue they are aware of and looking to fix.

Comentado por 228648

Can anyone confirm that this item is NOT a unique item? I know it would be kind of a waste, but when they fix it, and druids can craft it, will they be able to craft 2? one for dps and one for tanking so they can be enchanted and gemed differently?

Comentado por 255699

TBC goggles were overpowered at the beginning, lasted through t6 and were upgradable in SW, the last raid in the expansion. Maybe we can get them to add goggle upgrades more often this time, like every raid content update. That would make them not stand out, but provide an easy way to upgrade your head slot.

Comentado por julienpdx

I guess I'm a little lost as to how an item you can create as a "top reward" for maxing out your profession is "OP" because it would last someone through a few different raids? It's just one item; why not? It gives people an incentive to level their profession. Honestly, this is why I chose Engineering.

And I'm sorry Blizzard, but 3 weeks into the expansion and no fix for druids not having access to this? give me a break.

Comentado por 151708

The goggles were a big part of why many rogues chose engineering to begin with, or stayed with it... I always loved engineering for things like the battle chicken and explosive sheep, it has fun toys for PVP, but for a raiding character there weren't a lot of reasons to hang on to engineering other than the goggles, and crafting bots to repair your raids... it was nice to be able to get motes as well, but not comparable to a true gathering profession.

At the top you could craft a t5-t6 quality item for one slot, which you have to level an expensive profession for... other crafting professions had similar quality top-end items (e.g. spellfire gear), and they don't replace raiding, they just gave you a step up when you were earning your raid gear set. I don't understand why you think it's good that we're losing that in this expansion.

Here's a comparison of the benefits a rogue can get from each profession. You can see that other crafting professions give you item enhancements that make them worth keeping when you're raiding (extra sockets, ring enchants, the best shoulder inscription and leg/bracer enhancements available, etc.); engineering didn't have item enhancements like that in the past, the ones it has now are beaten by enchants you can buy from other people, and now it doesn't even have a long-term head slot item for raiding.

(If you look at the engineering item enhancements listed on that chart, compare them to the best PVE enchantments available for the same slots. The engi boot/glove upgrades are inferior to enchants you can get, and going by the section on trinket comparisons, the sonic booster has nice stamina for PVP, but for PVE, it's far surpassed by Bladefist's Breadth and many other trinkets.)

So this isn't a good or even a balanced thing for engineering, it doesn't have benefits for raiding at this point (while most of the others do, even tailoring and herbalism is a better choice for raiding rogues with that swordguard embroidery and lifeblood), but hopefully it's something that will be taken care of in a patch when the professions are fixed.

Comentado por 258765

The fact that the first 3 GMs i talked to didnt even know about the issue doesnt make me feel any better either. C'mon Blizz

Comentado por 272325

I've spent over 3k gold in the first days after WotLK's launch to have it crafted. Like others, helms like this made me pick engineering. To have the big surprise to not be able to craft it (feral druid, ofc). When I decided to have it crafted anyway and craft myself one (to have my own name on it ~ blah) later, surprise again. Blizz removed the "BoE" attribute making it rogue only. Goodie. Way to go Bzz!

Comentado por Alfador

This is now available to druids on the test realm (3.0.8).

Comentado por 138715

I'm an Engineer, i'm currently leveling my Engineering up to craft these.

I TOO once made the level 62 epic goggles which actually i took through Sunwell and never upgraded and still using them now, in my opinion the goggles was TOO good at level 62 and TOO good at level 70.

People stop moaning, i can understand if these goggles was "Level 80" and they had worse stats than level 80 naxx gear, but these are level 72, which means you won't be replacing them until level 80, unlike most gear, they don't cost that much to create and they will last you through gearing up in HC's / badge gear and into raiding, they're ^&*!ing good for what they're made for.

Comentado por 18541

I am VERY disappointed that feral druids can't learn to make this. Seems like it's rogue only.
I can't learn it, 447 skill.

Comentado por 240612

This is the best headpiece for Druid tanks outside of Naxx-25.

Comentado por GamingG33K

Does anyone else notice that these goggles require 2 xScarlet Rubies to create these and the goggles come out blue?

Would've made a lot more sense if the lenses were the same colour as the gems used, lol..

Comentado por 193614

Before saying this helmet is inferior to the T7 helm or anything along those lines, keep in mind that this is far superior in PvP because of the increased stealth detection. I might even go as far as saying that these are a must for rogues in arena, as you all know, revealing that other rogue/druid before it finds you can be the difference between a win and a loss.

Comentado por gnorkmazrigos

i started engineering because of those and cryed when i looked at the lvl-req :'( would have been much better with a lvl 80 boosted goggles. they look cool indeed :D

Comentado por 303931

Wouldn't surprise me if you'll see an upgrade in upcoming patches to these. :)

Comentado por CrescentWarrior

So ya here I go with my rantin again. I decided once I maxed my rogue's engineering out that I would craft these lovely goggles after gaining my HT7 Helm. (I don't call them 7.5's, it's just HT7 Or VT7 to me) granted i lose a little bit of expertise but since I was overcapped already on it I noticed one thing. I gained more in stats. Got more crit, got equal to the same AP as my H Bonescythe. In other words, this thing is good and if socketed right, better than the H T7 Helm. But that's just what i've seen when I compaired stats and DPS'd wearing those.

Comentado por Contender019

i dont really know much, but if u can get these at 72 wear em until you raid at 80 because they rock

Comentado por 5409

Just a little note: ( on this page since I own this specific set)

Visual range and tracking radius appears to be ~80yds
Your minimap apparently covers ~160yd radius
Facing - RMB is not the same as your FOV - LMB

Using this ability appears to set your originating point of view ~80 yards ahead of you in the direction you are facing.

So...you can now track or see targets that are within an 80yd radius originating from 80yd in the direction you are facing, if you turn your FOV 180° from your current facing you will notice NPC's have disappeared. Even ones you are standing next to.

Hard to explain, easy to understand when you figure out the game mechanics behind it.

Comentado por ShiroRX

Stealth dectection bonus have now been removed from these and ALL engineering goggles. Making these now...dun dun dun...useless!

Comentado por 126853

You can use a belt 'tinker' to see the clouds, without no negatives.

Also, the helm is best in slot at 72 for almost every class that can make it. ilevel 200 item at 72?

Yeah, useless.

Comentado por deejaythink

bad news fellow rogues, blizz nerfed the stealth detection on these, they just cant give eng any love.

on a higher note, blizz is talking about nerfing the human racial

Comentado por 84760

Stealth dectection bonus have now been removed from these and ALL engineering goggles. Making these now...dun dun dun...useless!

Except for Hyper vision, Catseye ultra, and Bloodvine lense, Sure, the stats are gimped
but so is looseing the opener to another rogue.

Comentado por Consar

enchanters:
have enchants on rings and they can make money easily

jewelcrafters:
they have chance to use 3 really great gems regardless of slot color.

leatherworkers:
they have special enchants on wrist slot.

blacksmiths:
they add additional sockets to gloves and bracers.

tailors:
they have special cloak enchants.

alchemy:
they gain additional bonus from their flasks/elixirs.

engineers:
they have binoculars.

Comentado por 199663

almost all "use" functions from engineering breaks stealth
virtually has no usable skill/item for arenas
it is not a farming profession
only perk of the passive stealth detection is gone

makes rogue engineers completely useless.
it was already bad enough that bikes cost so much and it wasnt BoP.
profession that has no USEFUL profession-only traits.
yay for blizzard for hating so much.

Comentado por 152398

See nearby gas cloud is not available with this googles anymore.

Comentado por 463130

So, I made one of these today and I notice that while it has 1 Meta Socket it only sport 1 Yellow socket. Now, these goggles are very, rogue-oriented so the first meta gem I can think of is the Relentless Earthsiege Diamond. As far as I understand, metas only activate when the requirements are met. So, I checked and with only an additional yellow socket, pretty much there´s no way of socketing a meta gem that will work nicely with a rogue that will be useful on this this thing. Any suggestions?

Comentado por 104860

Seems they also removed the passive stealth detection QQ Just equipped these having had them in the bank for a year and noticed it long longer has it. When did blizz remove this does anybody know?

Comentado por error10

You cannot add a Mind Amplification Dish to this item. The message received is: "That item already has an activated ability."

Comentado por Dsc666

Helloooo Kerrigan.

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