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Comentado por wingman

Memento of Tyrande 2.0

Someone tell me how to pronounce the name :p

Comentado por Nachogod

My guess is it is intended to be a pun.
Je'Tze's Bell
Jeze's bell
Jezebel
A woman of ill repute.

Comentado por Sounder

Proc chance: 10%. (Just click through the first Equip: effect.)

That is also the same chance as the Memento of Tyrande.

Comentado por 248289

Droppd for me off a random mob in Halls of Lightning.

It's pretty amazing for any caster, mainly healers I would imagine.

Comentado por 171600

This item is in direct reference to Jezebel.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jezebel_(Bible)#Jezebel_in_modern_culture

Another one of Blizzards name games.

Comentado por 251526

The fact that this is BOP is ridiculous... I just looted it tonight off a random mob in Storm peaks. Too bad I'm a rogue.

Comentado por 109448

Need to know the internal CD! Assuming one minute internal CD, you're looking at 300mp per minute or 25mp/5....and it has a static 106 spellpower, quite nice but need to know what the internal really is.

Comentado por Mortenz

Its a world drop. Of course you got it somewhere in Northrend.

Saying where you got the item when its a world drop isnt valuable information since it has as much of a chance to drop of a Undead in Icecrown as in a Spider in Storm Peaks.

Comentado por 182830

I would recommend not to vendor it even if it doesn't fit for your class, since it's most likely to be fixed to BoE.

Comentado por 261550

I can say that it DOES NOT have a 45 sec Internal cooldown at this point, I have time and time again had it proc back to back just after I lost the buff, Renew Tick then a PW:Shield procc'd it on my Tank on that run alone. I absolutely LOVE it as a healing trinket while I use my Egg from Emblems. If you see this drop with other casters, Beat them with a stick to get this off them. IT IS GREAT for healing. 10 / 10 for it, I highly doubt I will ever replace it because of it sheer proc rate (It's huge) and it's 106 Spell Power makes it very useful if I ever go Shadow :P

I think this is incorrect or they've done a ninja fix on this. I got it on my holy pally and spent at minimum 30 minutes spamming FoL and the buff never procced continuously. The least time between procs was 45secs.

Comentado por bitleech

Even if it is fixed to be boe, the bop ones will likely remain bop.

I had a paladin friend get an alcors sunrazor back when it was bop, after they changed it to be boe his was still bop.

Comentado por Icetemplar

Got this of the last boss in heroic Nexus last night. A few things to note, when it says any spell it means it, it proced of me hearthing, when I was making my Wisperglow cloak, and when I was casting earth sheild right before a pull. Seems to have 60 second interal cooldown, but I was chain casting spells to really test it.

Comentado por 177933

The Mp5 buff is called Effervescence, the icon looks like Surge of Light (priest talent) and this confuses me alot lol.

Seems like it has around 45 sec internal cooldown

I got it from 10 man Sartharion trash

Does NOT proc from HoT ticks, only spell casts.

Comentado por 274769

Dropped for me today from a Cult Researcher in Icecrown, so this does not only drop from instance mobs.

Comentado por 278325

Dropped this evening for me off of the first boss in H Violet Hold (it was the water boss). As has been said, as a world drop that information isn't very pertinent. Don't have a good handle on the proc rate yet, but I'll run some tests on it tomorrow. What I do know is that its procs "Effervescence" which is a net gain of 300 mana. The buff icon for effervescence is the exact same as the buff icon for Surge of Light, so I often got confused why my Flashes of Light were taking time to cast >.<

Saerax - Holy Priest, Turalyon

EDIT:

Having worked with this for about a week, it seems to proc about once for every minute or minute and a half of a boss fight, probably not uniformly. That would be fairly consistent with what's been said about a 10% proc rate and a 45 second internal cooldown. I haven't noticed being able to chain its proc yet, but that would imply no internal cooldown, so at a 10% proc rate that chances of that are about 1 in 100. I think i'll try spamming heals on myself sometime later today and see if i cant get it to proc twice in under 45 seconds.

But, the data suggest so far that at about one proc every 75 seconds, for 300 net mana, its roughly equivalent to 20 mp5. if you consider a proc once a minute, its 25 mp5, and once every 90 seconds would be ~17 mp5.

Comentado por 278330

Activated when summoning Pally mount, not sure about regular mounts.

Comentado por rukmedes

Currently changed to BoE Status on the PTR 3.0.8 Build 9355

Comentado por Shikhee

MMOChampion confirmed that this great item will be a BoE drop in 3.0.8.

Comentado por 255517

Just got this off a level 80 Stormpeak Wyrm in Dragonspine Peaks. I do have to say this trinket is AMAZING :) And, I don't even have to worry about whether or not I should put it up on the AH since it's BoP! What a deal.

Comentado por Ohforf

Maaven's response:

Actually, that is misleading, as I misunderstood the situation. The item will remain Soulbound. =\

Comentado por 232685

Does this work with spark of life? Can they both independently proc or do they share the same 45 second cooldown?

Comentado por Mahoraba

This Item will be Bind when Equipped come 3.0.8, however the blue posts were about existing Je'Tze's Bell and how they will not become BoE (non-soulbound) when patch hits, only ones that drop after patch 3.0.8 will be BoE.

Comentado por 177267

I wonder how this compares to the mana returns from the Darkmoon Card: Illusion trinket. https://www.wowhead.com/cata/item=42988

6 more SP on this trinket.

100 mp5 for 15 seconds = 1500 mana?

Please correct me if the numbers are off.

Comentado por 242552

Your logic on Druids doesn't make a whole lot of sense. You say that mana isn't an issue for us and then mention Illustration of the Dragon Soul, crit/haste trinkets and then rattle off a bunch of regen trinkets.

I generally agree that Resto Druids are not having mana issues enough to value regen stats terribly highly. However, crit only benefits us on Regrowth, Nourish and Healing Touch. We do cast Regrowth a fair amount now but it at best is going to be 30% of our healing and it already has a 50% crit bonus from talents. So crit is not a very desireable stat. Haste is also not particularly valued. We can get our GCD down to 1.2 seconds with just talents. it takes only a small amount of haste to get the remaining .2 seconds to hit the GCD reduction cap from Haste. Anything more is wasted unless you're casting the three spells we mentioned. Which again isn't a huge enough portion of our healing to justify it.

This means that we value Spellpower, Spirit, Int (as it relates to regen) and yes to a small amount mp5. Crit or Haste is largely viewed as wasted itemization.

So let's go through the trinkets you suggested.

Soul of the Dead: Crit based, not something we want (though you were largely suggesting it for a Paladin).
Illustration of the Dragon Soul: Excellent trinket, best trinket for us. One slot filled.
Majestic Dragon Figurine: Regen trinket. But we're not really hurting on mana. It provides 31 Healing from the Spirit to Healing conversion. Which is pretty poor.
Spirit-World Glass: Another Regen Trinket. This one provides 24 Healing across an entire fight from spirit assuming you're using it every single time the cooldown is up.
Darkmoon Card: Blue Dragon: Pure regen trinket. Don't need it but boy it is nice if you do.
Figurine - Sapphire Owl: Yeah not everyone is a JC'er, but even with the Prismatic +32 Spellpower gems you're talking 64 spellpower. Still mostly a regen trinket.
Mercurial Alchemist Stone: Not everyone is an alchemist but even so 59 spellpower, 50 haste (ugh we don't want that) and 1760 mana from your one mana pot (assuming you get the maximum from the pot). It's ok but really doesn't do much for us. And it doesn't scale at all if the fight is longer.

Let's look at some options you didn't mention:
Forethought Talisman: 111 Spellpower, but has a proc off direct heals, nice for paladins but probably not ideal for druids.
Battlemaster's Bravery: 111 Spellpower, with a maximum health use. Somewhat useful but that health bonus isn't that great for PVE. Plus you have to get 1800 rating to get it which not everyone wants to bother with.
Darkmoon Card: Illusion: 100 Spellpower, with an on use that pretty much just gives you a free 1200 mana.

Now let's look at Je'Tze's Bell.

106 spellpower. The trinket has an internal cooldown of 45 seconds. Druids can get this to proc very close to the internal cooldown since we're casting a spell every 1.2 - 1.5 seconds. So in a 5 minute fight you'll proc this about 6 maybe 7 times. For a return of 1800 - 2100 mana.

Admittingly this is not great. But 1800 mana is worth more to me than 5 more spellpower on a trinket.

Frankly the best two trinkets are the Illustration of the Dragon Soul and Je'Tze's Bell.

I wish there were better trinket options. But our options aren't that great.

I paid 5k for mine and was willing to shell out 10k. So you're just wrong in my opinion. 20k is probably too much. 5k is reasonable. 10k is probably pushing outrageous but this is the first week that it's available for purchase.

Comentado por 294464

I got mine last night. Went 10man naxx with the guild. I joined half way through, just started clearing mobs for patchwork and it drops off of a patchwork golem. Obviously as it was guild run we rolled and i won with 98 YAY. There was no question of me selling it, I am now the proud owner of it and I think it rathers suits my chars name :D

Comentado por stormdruid

One sold on Bronzdragonflight today for 2.8k. I saw on AH and clicked buy, and the item was already sold....

What a steal at 2.8k OMG i could cry :/

Comentado por Thuggernaut113

I got one of these to drop for our group in Heroic Violet Hold. We all rolled need, I won, and it sold on the AH for 3500g in under an hour O_o

Comentado por 64751

I think since 3.08 this trinket can also be a great added value for Arcane mages. Since after hit rating, spdmg and int are the most important stats (imo hit>int>sp>crit>haste>spirit), the +106 sp comes in handy. Any additional mana regen for Arcane mages is obviously handy aswell.

Comentado por 292710

Bought this last night for 3.5k gold. Struggling with the decision to equip or resell for profit, but I'm leaning towards keeping it. My current trinkets are https://www.wowhead.com/cata/item=40685 and https://www.wowhead.com/cata/item=42988.

If I decide to keep it, I'm going to replace the Egg of Mortal Essence. As a druid I may not desperately "need" the mp5, but it definitely helps in certain fights, like patchwerk for example. Not to mention, it just looks cool.

Comentado por stormdruid

Finally i got this amazing trinket!

I have been advertising in trade (on EU-Bronzedragon Flight) asking for this and i found somone who had it, i offered 4,500g, which i think was a very fair price to both of us, and that was accepted and i was a very happy bunny!

As a resto druid my trinket combo now is https://www.wowhead.com/cata/item=44254. & https://www.wowhead.com/cata/item=37835 and i can confirm the following: -

1) Both prock independently of each other and they do proc at the same time.
2) It dosnt prock off over heal HOTS.
3) It appears to have an internal CD of 45 seconds so it can proc once every 60 seconds.
4) When procking it is called "Effervescence" and the duration is 15 seconds.
5) The MP5 buff is static at 100 MP5 and does not change with buffs.
6) 106 Spell Power on equip.
7) It will proc off heals cast only and not HOT's ticking.

After spam testing this trinket i can confirm the following this by casting Life Bloom consrtantly for 6 minutes on my self.

(Proc's are on the times changes)

0 ----- > 52 ----- > 1:58 ----- > 2:53 ----- > 3:43 ----- > 4:35 ----- 5:31 ----- > 6:31

So it appears to have an internal cooldow from this small sample of testing as it procked on 52, 66, 55, 50, 52, 56 & 60 seconds while spamming Life Bloom so i would guess that it is fair to say on these numbers, in a 5-6 minute fight, you will get around 7 procs from this trinket which is 7 * 300 = 2100 mana back for a typical Naxx encounter.

So effectivly 330 seconds of casting gives around 7 procks and this means the numbers are as follows: -

7 * 300 = 2100 mana / 330 seconds = 6.36 mana per second * 5 = 31.81 MP5.

The closer this gets to 5 minutes the better it performs when compared to https://www.wowhead.com/cata/item=42988. as this has a 5 minute CD so in a 9 minute fight you would get to use this trinket 2 times (2400 mana) where https://www.wowhead.com/cata/item=37835 will proc 10 times producing 3,000 mana back so they are both comparable but this trinket is superior because of the internal proc and the increased spell power.

Hope this heps some people decide but for me i'm still delighted with this trinket combo.

I'm a very proud owner :)

Comentado por 242552

3) It appears to have an internal CD of 45 seconds so it can proc once every 60 seconds.

If it has an internal cooldown of 45 seconds it can proc every 45 seconds. The internal cooldowns start when you receive the buff. Not when the buff expires. So ideally it will proc once every 45 seconds. However, it may be more realistic to figure once every 60 seconds just in case you're unlucky or casting slower spells when the cooldown is up. I guess it depends upon your class and what you are casting.

Comentado por 302239

WoWarmory has this listed as being sold by a vendor in Mulgore.

Anyone know what's up with that?

http://www.wowarmory.com/item-info.xml?i=37835

Comentado por ljudsnubbe

Ok lets be realistic. I also think this is a great trinket, but its just not worth it for most people (me included).

10% chance on spellcast to procc and each procc gives 300 mana, +45sec internal CD.
If you are spamming instant spells its kind of safe to say that it will procc once a minute tops, and to be honest it probably wont procc that often. Roughly it gives 300mana/minute = 25mp/5 (but probably a little less) + 106 Spellpower.

But compared to https://www.wowhead.com/cata/item=42988 its not that much of an improvement (I compare to Illusion because its a trinket everyone easily can collect, and its rather cheap)
Darkmooncard:Illusion gives 1200mana/5min + 100 spellpower. If your fight is exactly 5minutes long Jetzes bell win, that is true, but in a 5min fight mana will probably not be an issue anyway so its not really relevant. However in fights longer then 5minutes (where mana-regen becomes important) simply use Illusion 10-15 secs into the fight and 5 mins later the CD is over and you can get 1200 more mana from it, so used right it provides 2400mana instead of 1200.
If used twice in long fights illusion gives you:
2400/6min fight = 33mp/5
2400/7min fight = 28mp/5
2400/8min fight = 25mp/5 (ok I know its a little strange to calculate like this but I think you get the picture)

So if the fights are shorter then 5 mins Jetzes bell win, but mana is irrelevant in short fights.
In fights 5-8mins (a normal raid bossfight), Illusion can actually provide more mana then JB.
Jetzes bell har 6 spellpower more then Illusion but thats about it IMO, and considering the price for JB is 7-10k g and Illusion goes for about 1-1,2k g (on my server at least, cheaper if you collect the cards yourself) I would say JB is very overrated.

Is it worth it to buy JB instead of Illusion? For some (very rich) people maybe, but not for me. JB is slightly better then Illusion, but the improvement is so small Id rather save my 7k g and get better enchants/gems/pots etc..

Dont waste you money people, at least wait until the price on the trinket drops to a more realistic level

Comentado por 314257

I picked this up for 3K. Someone was advertising it for 2500 in trade channel, said he got a bid for 2700 so I offered 3K and won it. I'm using it for my Discipline Priest. Discipline +healing doesn't scale as well as holy so this is a most welcome 100+ SP upgrade, which works nicely along with my https://www.wowhead.com/cata/item=40258.

The mana regen is nice but not really needed as Disc. It can't hurt. However the SP upgrade alone was worth it to me.

Comentado por ljudsnubbe

Stormdruid, I see your point about the gold. If you got tons of gold and nothing to spend it on sure you can get this trinket for 10000, its a great trinket.
However I doubt your testing is really a good way to test this trinkets potential. Ok, if you are a druid and do nothing but spam Lifebloom in an entire bossfight them maybe you can get it up to 32mp/5, but IRL it will probably not procc that often. You will be running around a bit, avoid aoe etc, so the real manaregen from the trinket will almost garanteed be a bit lower then 32mp/5.

And about your complaining about activating the use-effect on https://www.wowhead.com/cata/item=42988: do you really think its that difficult to press a single button once every 5 minutes? Just press it once in the beginning of the fight (after you have spent 1200 mana), then press it 5 mins later.. not really rocket-science imo.

Dont get me wrong. Jetzes Bell IS better then https://www.wowhead.com/cata/item=42988, but only slightly better.

Some people say they have bought it for 3k, and that is about a fair price I think.

Comentado por 292710

Agreed, 10k sounds pretty excessive, and 20k as someone mentioned is just insane. But just remember to consider the additional "coolness" value. This is an extremely rare trinket, and while it is extremely efficient and useful, there is also a degree of pride in having it, kinda like a rare mount. Thats just my opinion :)

Comentado por 314424

So I wanted to try my luck and sell this thing for a lot more than what I've seen in the comments here and in thottbot.

I put it up in the AH for 16 000g buyout with 8 000 bid.
Near the end of the listing I started to get bids and finally a buyout. Needless to say, I'm very happy.

So for anyone trying to sell this I really suggest you try and push your luck. It's only 6g to list and if you have all the time in the world, it's really worth waiting it out.

10 000g may be too much for some people but some players out there have a lot of gold to waste.

edit: crap... I just read that someone sold it for over 20k. I really should have pushed it for more.

Comentado por 18642

"After spam testing the JB trinket i can confirm the following this by casting Life Bloom consrtantly for 6 minutes on my self.

(Proc's are on the times changes)

0 ----- > 52 ----- > 1:58 ----- > 2:53 ----- > 3:43 ----- > 4:35 ----- 5:31 ----- > 6:31

So it appears to have an internal cooldown from this small sample of testing as it procked on 52, 66, 55, 50, 52, 56 & 60 seconds while spamming Life Bloom so i would guess that it is fair to say on these numbers, in a 5-6 minute fight, you will get around 7 procs from this trinket which is 7 * 300 = 2100 mana back for a typical Naxx encounter.

So effectivly 330 seconds of casting gives around 7 procks and this means the numbers are as follows: -

7 * 300 = 2100 mana / 330 seconds = 6.36 mana per second * 5 = 31.81 MP5.

The closer this gets to 5 minutes the better JB will proc 10 times producing 3,000 mana back. "
(thanks Devine from Elitist Jerks for this information, post is at http://elitistjerks.com/f73/t37441-restoration_trinkets/)

This procs on all heal casts, instant or not, with a 45 second internal cooldown.

Considering this is an approx 30mp5, 106 spellpower trink, I would say this is the BEST healing trinket for a resto druid, combined with either Illustration of the Dragon Soul or Majestic Dragon Figurine depending on your regen / spellpower needs. It is most likely one of the best healer trinkets period. If you stumble across one, you will at least get 5k G, if not 10k G (I just managed to get mine for 5k :D).
If you can afford one, buy it, you most likely wont be replacing it until the next content patch!

Comentado por Xiffrudo

I got to 80 yesterday and, today, with 929 SP so far in Tree Form, I got this to drop in UK Heroic and, fortunately, I was the only one who Needed it.

Holy dang luck.

Comentado por Lastemperor

Found one in Wintergrasp, dropped by an elemental :) Sold it for 5k, quick and easy.

Comentado por 143815

The expected amount of mana returned (E), depending upon the time it takes you to cast a spell (C in seconds) and the length of the fight (L in seconds) should be calculated like this:

E = 300 (1 + (L / 10 - C) / (C + 4.5))

Assumptions here are:
Mana returned per proc: 300
Procrate: 10%
Internal CD: 45 s
L >= 10 C (Meaning that the fight is at least long enough for you to cast 10 spells. )

Note that the expected value is an average and therefore doesn't have to be a multiple of 300 mana. This formula does not take clipping of the proc or the cooldown at the end of the fight into account. If you want discrete numbers, just round down the result to the next mutiple of 300. 1882 mana returned would become 1800 mana returned and hence 6 procs. I chose not to do this in the table below because the arbitrary length of the fights would skew the numbers.

A couple of exemplary mana returns, all values are rounded to the nearest integer:

Cast time | 5 min fight | 10 min fight
----------------------------------------
1s | 1882 mana - 31 mp5 | 3518 mana - 29 mp5
1.2s | 1815 mana - 30 mp5 | 3395 mana - 28 mp5
1.5s | 1725 mana - 29 mp5 | 3225 mana - 27 mp5
2s | 1592 mana - 27 mp5 | 2977 mana - 25 mp5
2.2s | 1545 mana - 26 mp5 | 2888 mana - 24 mp5
2.5s | 1479 mana - 25 mp5 | 2764 mana - 23 mp5
3s | 1380 mana - 23 mp5 | 2580 mana - 22 mp5
5s | 1089 mana - 18 mp5 | 2037 mana - 17 mp5

This shows that while cast time has an effect on the returns, the effect is still quite good on slower spells. The 5 second spell is there as an example of a fight where you don't spam your spells.

Shorter fights make the bell even better due to the fact that the first proc should happen only a few seconds into the fight while all following procs need to wait for the 45 sec internal CD.

Comentado por 317532

Before you shell out 10k gold for this trinket, consider the following.

This trinket restores 300 mana every time it procs, with an ICD of 45 seconds. The proc rate is 10% which means on average it takes 10 casts for it to proc. Most resto druids don't have very much haste, and rightly so, so I'm going to assume a 1.1 second GCD, which requires 328 haste. This means on average you proc once every 45 + 11 = 56 seconds which comes out to 26.79 mp5 ~ 27 mp5.

Now consider:

https://www.wowhead.com/cata/item=42988 Goes for between 800-1200 gold on my server.

The proc averages to 1200 mana every 5 minutes which is 20 mp5. However, in reality, it is much better. Say it's a 6 minute fight, then you can actually get 2400 mana in 6 minutes, or 33 mp5. If you think about it, the mp5 approaches 20 from above as fight length approaches infinity, i.e. it is ALWAYS better than 20 mp5. So if you pop the Illusion every CD, it will on average be roughly the same mp5 as the bell. However, I believe the card is even better because you can control when to pop it. So if you just macro it you can get at least 20 mp5 but if you pop it intelligently, you can get a much better effect (i.e. the 1200 mana when you need it most). This is why I believe that the card is actually a better trinket, not merely slightly worse for a lot less gold. IMHO, there is no reason to spend a lot of gold on the bell if you do not already have the card.

Comentado por 143815

I cannot agree here. First of all the concept of "mana when you need it most" is a bit alien to me. I can only see very few reasons as to why I would want to gain mana later than at the first possible opportunity (when my mana is low enough to actually use the full effect). Reasons I can see are:

Replenishment - You get Replenishment more often if you are low on mana.
Soul Shard / Ankh / Rebirth - You die and get rezzed at low mana.
Percentage based mana drain effects - KT's Detonate Mana for example

Of these three points only the third seems relevant to me, since stealing Replenishment from other classes doesn't help the raid in any way and dying is something you should not do in the first place.

All "wait for the opportune moment" strategies have in common that you get less mana out of your trinket. If it takes you 6 minutes to kill KT and you only use the trinket after getting mana detonated, chances are that you only get one use out of it in that fight, making it worth - *ghasp* - less than 20mp5!

Looking at those facts, I personally would use the trinket whenever it is up. Sadly not really macroable since I don't want it popped on my first spell.
Assuming no human errors, the mana returns, depending on the length of the fight, would look like this:

Length | MP5
--------------
60 | 100
120 | 50
180 | 33
240 | 25
300 | 20
360 | 33
420 | 29
480 | 25
540 | 22
600 | 20

We see explosive mp5 values for very short fights, but those never rely on mana. I calculated the average mp5 returned for fights between 4 and 10 minutes length to be 26mp5, leaving it about equal with the bell at 2.2s cast speed. So everyone with a bit of haste should get equal or higher benefits from the bell, assuming they are spamming and using the darkmoon card perfectly.

Note: I used a far more detailed table than the one above to calculate the average so the 26 mp5 should be quite exact. Again all values rounded to the nearest integer.

Je'tze's Bell | Darkmoon Card: Illusion
-----------------------------------------
26+ mp5 | ~26 mp5
106 sp | 100 sp
automatic | manual
scales w/ haste | does not scale
rel. constant | varies strongly
w/ fight length w/ fight length
pricy | cheap

In my opinion the Bell wins in every aspect but price, making it the go-to trinket for people with a bit of cash ;)
That said, the differences aren't huge and if you're low on cash or just can't get your hands on a Bell there's nothing wrong with getting the darkmoon card. (except waiting for the faire... /bored)

Comentado por 292710

Recently I have seen this on my realm's (US- Cho'gall) AH as high as 21k buyout. Makes me really happy that I got it at 3.5k a few weeks ago.

While this is a superb trinket, don't be foolish and spend something like 15-20k gold on this. The Darkmoon Card: Illusion you get from Prisms Deck is much more affordable (500-900g on my server) and it also offers a minor mp5 component which is actually on use instead of a proc.

Also, for some reason this trinket is ilvl200 and not 213, so you won't be getting the Epic achievement with this.

Comentado por depa

I agree with everything, except for the following line (which doesn't really affect the trinket selection you mentioned):

Crit or Haste is largely viewed as wasted itemization.

That is so false for resto druids right now.

You should ONLY prioritize mana regen over crit or haste up to the point where you have all the mana you need (getting a full mana bar from innervate, not having to save mana on long fights). After that point, it's spell power > haste until you reach a 1.0 second GCD raid buffed. And after that, it's spell power > crit all the way.

That's precisely the reason why Valorous Dreamwalker Headpiece is widely considered (just check the EJ forums) the worst piece of the set, since it's the only one with mp5 instead of haste or crit.

Comentado por 191582

I was lucky enough to get both https://www.wowhead.com/cata/item=37835 and https://www.wowhead.com/cata/item=37657 as drops and now use them in tandem on my Holy Priest. To confirm...

1) Yes, they do proc independently on unique timers. I see them proc at the same time and separately at random.

2) Yes, the regen stacks. Spark of Life and Effervescence are two separate buffs. Thus you can have up to 276 mana per 5 added if both proc at the same time.

3) Yes, I absolutely love a static 106 spell power, 73 spell haste, and up to 276 mana per 5 from two trinket slots.

I also have the Spirit-World Glass, which I have dropped in favor of this combo for now.

I'll try to parse together some logs comparing this combo with the Spirit-World Glass (the other very good priest trinket) using some OS5SR action to see what is the most beneficial over all. My guess is that for situations where constant casting is needed this pair is vastly superior and for slower paced action the Spirit-World Glass is quite solid.

As of right now, I cannot think of a better combo of trinkets for a Holy Priest -- especially as we run the 10 man raids with only 2 healers which is a strain on mana for any Holy Priest.

Comentado por greenland

Interesting note: wow armory has this trinket listed as a vendor source; from Mulgore. /shrug

Comentado por andywoho01

Je'Tze's Bell = Jessie's Bell? Jessie Spano, Saved by the Bell?

In this case, with a trinket that does this kind of mana regeneration and adds this much to spellpower, you truly are...saved by the Bell.

Just a guess.

Comentado por Hunterios

Might be pure coincidence, but in my guild-chat I read it dropped 3 times in two days. My guild only, not sure about other players, and I was not on-line whole two days obviously.

Anyone else noticed an increased drop rate the last few days?

Comentado por 326570

Yeah this trinket is definitely second best of slot for resto druids. Best is Illustration of the Dragon soul. 200 constant spell power. DMC Illusion is about a tie I'd say with Jetze's. I have to agree about the regen thing. Once you have plenty of mana for a fight given a pot and possibly an innervate, if you actually use it on yourself, there is no reason to keep stacking regen.

That said I think third best is a toss up between Magestic Dragon Figurine which amounts to 72 mp5 while casting and 34 spell power in tree and Forethought Talisman which is 111 spell power and a little hot doohicky that tends to amount to 3k healing over the course of a 5-6 minute fight. I consider the Figurine a bit better but if you can't seem to give mana away, Forethought wins.

Comentado por malmern

Also drops from Ring-Lord Conjurers.

Probably gonne be downrated, but what the hey!

Comentado por 258919

This is a pretty good PvE trinket, obviously. The mana regen boost helps casters quite a bit in long boss fights in raids and heroics. If you can't use it (if you're a melee centered class), it sells for quite a bit on the AH.

Comentado por Ozbaab

Salranax the Flesh Render in Icecrown just gace me this trinket while doing The air stands still

Comentado por 239881

I just picked this trinket up for 4k g this morning and I couldn't be happier. For a resto shammie, this is an amazing trinket. It let me drop my JC trinket and use my dragon's eyes on my gear. All I had to do was sell some valor bracers to raise most of the cash, so it really didn'y cost me any time grinding gold at all. And the MP5 on this one, when combined with the Spark of LIfe for long fights (KT or Sarth 2 or 3d) means I can afford to sacrifice some MP5 on gear and take other stats instead. Overall, a significant upgrade. Now if I could just win the roll for the dragon soul......lol!

Comentado por Chudz

I went to farm for my cousins epic mount, I went to Fjorn Anvil and killed a mob! this trinket dropped I sold it 5k gold and bought the epic mount!

This is the fast epic mount farm known to man!

Comentado por 130170

the only question is: are you willing to pay that much more gold?
Darkmoon Card: Illusion <400g on my realm - 100 sp 26 mp5
Je'Tze's Bell 5k+ g - 106 sp ~30 mp5

Comentado por 290384

Got this off 10 man OS, strugling to decide whether to sell it or to equip it.

Fire/Arcane mage with 100% regen while casting. Will probably sell it, but I am on a low population server where the best offer I can get for it is 3k gold.

Comentado por 332856

Je'Tze's Bell https://www.wowhead.com/cata/item=37835
Would't mind to have it on my resto druid. But the price is scary, hope the price or the trinket will drop in near future ;o) or perhaps https://www.wowhead.com/cata/item=40532
But IF i was a Jewel Crafter - the https://www.wowhead.com/cata/item=42413 fitted with https://www.wowhead.com/cata/item=42146 and https://www.wowhead.com/cata/item=42144 would give you a very nice healer trinket - 2340 mana over 12 sec. and 13 Mp5 wich adds up to a total of 3120 mana over a 5 min period. True, it only have 32 spellpower but 42 intellect instead. (Jeweler's gem´s are unique equipped)
Pretty nice for 1 item...
Remember - it's not all about spellpower and haste and crit, but enough healing to keep them alive ;o)

Comentado por 334039

After trying to get this trinket everyday on my Resto Shaman from when it was BoP, to trying to buy one when it was changed to BoE, and still grinding for it, I finally got it. The funny thing is that I basically gave up getting it on my Shaman. I had auto loot on and I was just doing the Sons of Hodir dailies, Hot and Cold specifically, and killing Battle Revenants. I didn't notice anything for about 5 minutes and I saw the you have received loot Je'Tze's Bell. I couldn't believe it.

Comentado por 336864

With current item listing on: www.mmo-champion.com for "Spell power / caster" trinkets. I think So far it still ranks very high. If the Mp5 does not look appealing to someone the 106 Spell power is amongst the highest when talking in terms of bonus Spell power. Geared more for a healer but if you stack raw spell power this trinket would not be a bad slot item.

I know myself along with other healing classes are hoping for some really good trinkets aimed at the healing builds. Current content doesn't offer much in the way of "standout" healing trinkets.

If you have a chance to pick this trinket up for a good price (4.5k - 8k) I would recommend getting it now while you have time to recover the cost before the new content hits.

Comentado por mrsrant

Just a price note for anyone interested. This dropped for me while I was leveling my warrior in Icecrown (doing Fleshwerks quests). When I got back to town, posted in trade, I had an offer of 5200G within a few mins. Could I have gotten more? Maybe. I had actually thought about keeping it for my holy pally, but my Owl is still better, and gold is always nice.
;-)
MrsR

Comentado por nolervik

This trinket dropped for my party while doing Ahn'Kahet The Old Kingdom. Everyone needed on it ofcourse (since its BoE and sells for like 6-7000g in AH. I was lucky to get it, and equipped it right away since im a resto shaman. My first epic world drop (?) ever.

Comentado por Punjab

Who is Je'Tze?

Comentado por bustocs

boe items are inferior to raid drops. if you really need the loot, you could just as well buy it from the winner. after all,

money is %^&* easy to make

right?

Comentado por 18046

Je'Tze is a friend,
yeah, I know he's been
a good friend of mine
But lately something's changed
that ain't hard to define
Je'Tze's got himself a Bell
and I want to make her mine
And she's watching him with those eyes
And she's lovin' him with that body,
I just know it
Yeah 'n' he's holding her
in his arms late,
late at night
You know, I wish that I had Je'Tze's Bell,
I wish that I had Je'Tze's Bell
Where can I find a trinket
like that
I play along with the charade
,
there doesn't seem to be
a reason to change
You know, I feel so dirty
when they start talking cute
I wanna tell her that I love her,
but the point is probably moot
'Cos she's watching him with those eyes
And she's lovin' him with that body,
I just know it
And he's holding her
in his arms late, late at night
Like Je'Tze's Bell,
I wish that I had Je'Tze's Bell
Where can I find a trinket,
where can I find a trinket like that
And I'm lookin' in the mirror all the time,
wondering what she don't see in me
I've been funny,
I've been cool with the lines
Ain't that the way
love supposed to be
Tell me, where can I find a trinket like that
(Solo)
You know, I wish that I had Je'Tze's Bell,
I wish that I had Je'Tze's Bell
I want Je'Tze's Bell,
where can I find a trinket like that, like
Je'Tze's Bell,
I wish that I had Je'Tze's Bell,
I want,
I want Je'Tze's Bell

Comentado por 259570

This item is NOT SOULBOUND it is a Binds on Equip

Comentado por ConstanT1ne32

does this trinket works on General Vezax?

Comentado por 299743

The next upgrade from this trinket is Sif's Remembrance, a Thorim10 hard-mode drop which gives 4 extra static spellpower and 56 extra mp5 on proc compared to Je'Tze's Bell.

An even better upgrade is Show of Faith, a Yogg-saron25 hard-mode drop which gives 140 static spellpower and 193mp5 for 15seconds on proc.

Comentado por 179389

It's pretty simple to illustrate with an example

The Bell grants 300 mana per minute, assuming the best case scenario.

Illusion grants 1200 mana per 5 minutes, assuming you cast it after a few healing spells.

Value per Fight Length:

1-4 Minutes: Illusion is the best.
4 Minutes exactly: They're the same.
4-5 Minutes: Bell is the best by 300 mana.
5-8 Minutes: Illusion is the best.
8 Minutes exactly: They're the same.
8-9 Minutes: Bell is the best by 300 mana.
9-12 Minutes: Illusion is the best.
12 Minutes exactly: They're the same.
12-13 Minutes: Bell is the best by 300 mana.

Comentado por 101028

What is better for priests though, Bell or illusion?...

Comentado por Siedjeey

This trinket is good indeed, especially for shamans/druid. But for a holy pally there are better ones out there though.

I had the luxury to be able to sell 2 bells up till now! One sold for 3600g three weeks ago. The other one is still on AH now, but already got a bid on it for 3100g.
I do find it extremely funny when I get a whisper asking the price and when I tell them, they say I'm crazy!
"You're crazy mate! You'll be glad if you can sell it for 600g!" "You're full of cr*p, send me a screenshot if you sell it for 1k or more, liar."

This really cracks me up! It's embarassing to see how many people don't know the marketprices on AH and dont have Auctioneer Advanced. I always tell them to check WoWhead as a reference, but they remain in ignorance...

Comentado por 432832

Got this of converted hero in icecrown. World drop, great trijet.

Comentado por 340323

" Each time you cast a spell, there is a chance you will gain up to 100 mana per 5 for 15 sec "
This is not true. EVERYBODY knows there is a global coldown on those kinda of trinkets, so those spells inside of global coldown, CANT proc the effect.
Bottom line, its not like " each time " . Dont lie to us Blizzard.

Comentado por 57192

They are normally 8500g on my server but I saw one listed for 2500g (actually it was sitting next to one for 8000g). I quickly grabbed that for my priest. Very happy atm. =)

Comentado por 438283

item just dropped for me last night, if anyone on illidan, Alliance or Horde wna buy it, im selling it for 4k. reply back if interested. thanks

Comentado por 320286

Holy priest here, just bought one for 500g on the auction house. And after reading the comments about the various price listings on servers, I'm quite happy!

I wonder if it's worth replacing my though. Apparently, it's worth around 50ish mp5, while this trinket is down by about 20ish mp5, BUT it gives 106 spell power (compared to the +84 int gives). Any suggestions?

Comentado por 125795

45sec internal CD
125mp5 for 15sec = 375mana each proc
10%procrate makes is proc on average every 10th cast,
a druid with 1sec GCD will get the proc on average every 55sec.

375mana every 55sec = 34mp5

MP5 trinkets for druids(sorted by mp5 ofc):
250mp5 Spark of Hope +20.5 spellpower
80mp5 Soul Preserver +75 spellpower
75mp5 Darkmoon Card: Greatness +39 spellpower
72mp5 Figurine - Sapphire Owl
70mp5 Darkmoon Card: Blue Dragon
70mp5 Majestic Dragon Figurine +37spellpower
69mp5 Living Ice Crystals
67mp5 Tears of the Vanquished
66mp5 Show of Faith +140 spellpower
60mp5 Spark of Life +73 haste rating
57mp5 Binding Light +68 spellpower
55mp5 Spirit-World Glass +29 spellpower
54mp5 Energy Siphon +68 spellpower
53mp5 Sif's Remembrance +110spellpower
39mp5 Valonforth's Remembrance +10 spellpower
36mp5 Winged Talisman +58 spellpower
34mp5 Je'Tze's Bell +106 spellpower
33mp5 Soul of the Dead +2% crit
32mp5 Talisman of Resurgence +100 spellpower
29mp5 Talisman of Troll Divinity +15 spellpower
28mp5 Cannoneer's Morale +47 spellpower
27mp5 Pandora's Plea +136 spellpower
26mp5 Memento of Tyrande +62 spellpower
25mp5 Darkmoon Card: Illusion +100 spellpower
21mp5 Bangle of Endless Blessings +5 spellpower
20mp5 Forethought Talisman +111 spellpower
12mp5 Futuresight Rune +68 spellpower

Comentado por 125795

Spellpower trinkets for druids:
200 spellpower Illustration of the Dragon Soul
140 spellpower Show of Faith +66mp5
136 spellpower Pandora's Plea +27mp5
125 spellpower Eye of the Broodmother +1.9%crit
111 spellpower Forethought Talisman +20mp5
111 spellpower Titan-Forged Rune of Audacity
110 spellpower Sif's Remembrance +53mp5
106 spellpower Je'Tze's Bell +34mp5
100 spellpower Darkmoon Card: Illusion +25mp5
100 spellpower Talisman of Resurgence +32mp5
98 spellpower Embrace of the Spider +92haste rating
98 spellpower The Egg of Mortal Essence +92haste rating
93 spellpower Forge Ember +1.59%crit
75 spellpower Soul Preserver +80mp5
68 spellpower Binding Light +57mp5
68 spellpower Energy Siphon +54mp5
68 spellpower Futuresight Rune +12mp5
63 spellpower Redeemer's Alchemist Stone
62 spellpower Memento of Tyrande +26mp5
59 spellpower Mercurial Alchemist Stone +50haste rating
58 spellpower Winged Talisman +36mp5

Comentado por Shad0wS0ul

sold for 4685g on haomarush eu.. i love boe epics....

Comentado por 243884

Indeed, the best way of handling this trinket is selling it.

I snapped one from the AH for 1900g, and sold it the same week for 5k. There are, and will be people who are ready to pay big for it. Make them happy!

Comentado por optima

Just looted this from a Kvaldir Reaver in Hrothgar's Landing. It certainly surprised me as I had read the drop rate was .1% off of mobs in Heroics.

Should I save it for my shaman alt I'm levelling or sell it for the 4.5k it seems to go for on Darkspear? I would equip it on my mage, but I already have Abyssal Rune and the Mithril Pocketwatch.

Comentado por ThaLunatik

Not worth as much as it used to be on my server. Used to see it up for 7-8k, then about 6 months ago it dropped to where none will sell. Steadily it went to 6k, 5k, 4k, etc. Mine never sold for any of those prices, so I eventually sported it for the hell of it. Now they are up for 1k and probably still don't sell.

Comentado por Lillfot

Anyone putting this up on the AH for more than 1000G and anticipating it to get sold is a complete dumbass.

I mean, honestly. Just use common sense with the pricing.

"Would I pay X gold for this item?"
If yes, then it's probably a fair price.
If no, then it's probably a retardedly high price.

Comentado por Fallerup

wowhead says this sells for 2K gold, that sounds insane, but I've seen worse, I got one today farming gold and I have no freaking idea what to sell it for :I

Comentado por 488362

This peace of epic seems tobe hard to sell on my realm (Anachronos).
Had it in a few times with other people for 3500g-ish after a week tried 900g-ish.. still not sold it..

Im considering using it on my Shaman since i still have https://www.wowhead.com/cata/item=37560 and https://www.wowhead.com/cata/item=35750, upgrade the green will atleast look good when i get /inspect-ed but so far i can heal heroics easily. Keeping up mana 12 of 18k most of the trash fights and 3k in worst-case secanario's.

Comentado por 253413

This trinket falls in hand together with all the other class-matching items.

Which means that I as a warrior couldnt roll on it but the pala/priest in my group could.

Most likely a misstake as you can sell it for around 1k or so

Comentado por fourwindsoh

My priest just got this in Draktharon Keep off a trash mob. It's BOE. On the AH on Windrunner it sells for around 1600g based on AH scans with Auctioneer. I"m using it though for raiding and boss fights.

Comentado por 625643

This dropped today at nexus HC last boss.
3 needed so i needed too and i got it.Sells like 1470g in AH but i sent it on my dudu!
It must be quite rare right?Is it world drop ?

Comentado por Phort

I have proof there are good people in this game.

A long time ago, in a land called Azeroth.... I had just gotten my first piece of T10 (the gloves) and went back to IF to check my auctions. As I finished and came out of the AH to go to either the bank or the mailbox, someone opened trade on the middle of one of the bridges. I knew not this Gnomish Mage. No message beforehand asking anything about anything. So the trade box was opened, then popped this little trinket in their side. I asked how much they wanted, they just accepted. Free of charge. I saw it was purple and immeadatly thought "If I cant use it, at least its worth a pretty penny!" Alas, I kept on my way, and a minute later, I got a whisper from the aformentioned player. "I saw that this was better than the trinket you have ;D" Not 15 seconds later, I compared it to the two trinkets I had at the moment. As the random player did say, the Bell was indeed better than both of the trinkets I had. And I dont mean by a little. They were A HELLUVA lot better! After that I never heard from them again. They had logged right after that and I have no clue what their name was.

I have been using this for months now, as I think it was at the beginning of the summer of '10 I got it. This bell is still trustworth, both as a trinket, and as a reminder of the good in peoples heart. This will always be on my person, just as a reminder. Random acts of kindness always bring the good back into a game, and keep me playing.

I hope this little Gnome Mage defeats the Lich King, Deathwing, and up to Seargas, where the tale of him will change the hearts and souls of Azerothians forevermore.

- Phort, <Brotherhood of Steel>, Antonidas

Comentado por 538048

The recent game mechanic changes made with 4.0.1 have changed this trinket quite a bit, and make it quite useful now (or at least more so than it was before). It's essentially a baby version of Pó Lunar Purificado now.

Comentado por Allakhazam

This dropped off of trash in Heroic HoL for my group last night. Nice trinket!

Comentado por Allakhazam

got in 10 man nax last night, I was actually the only one to roll on it. GOT IT :o) REALLY helps with healing

Comentado por Allakhazam

This dropped for me off a Ravenous Jormungar. Must be a higher chance to find it in Storm Peaks.

Comentado por Allakhazam

I have this on Norgannon server, Alliance side for sale, If you would like to purchase let me know. I can put it up in a neutral AH for horde. 4/24

Send ingame mail to Mikebank

Comentado por Allakhazam

Dropped in our 10 man naxx last night, Put it on the AH for the next day sold for 9k on the Alliance AH. 9k to the gbank

Comentado por Allakhazam

I bought this on Kharazhan sewrver horde side, got mine for 3500g, which was a steal as didnt even know the guy, i find it procs ever 90secs or so on my paladin when im spamming FoL, not as good as the OS25 trinket but the chances of getting that are tiny, loving my new trinket :D

Comentado por Allakhazam

i have this for sale tichonrius horde side its on ah presently for 3250g it dropped in HvH

Comentado por Allakhazam

This dropped for me from a random mob in the mine doing Slaves to Saronite (daily) in Icecrown. Made my day!

Comentado por Allakhazam

A Lv79 Valkyrion Flying Ghost in Storm Peaks (those women with the black wings, undead, etc) dropped it while I was doing the 30 Proto-Egg Freeze quest.

Edited, Dec 25th 2008 9:19am by Zariamnk

Comentado por Allakhazam

Dropped off trash in Heroic UK for my priest.

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