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Comentado por 36622

This sword (The Sun Eater 2.0 if you ask me) drops in Heroic Utgarde Pinnacle.

Comentado por Mundis

Reference to the book 'The Red Badge of Courage' maybe?

Comentado por aceofspades21

This is looking to be a really really nice pre-raid taking item much like The Sun Eater was. It's got plenty of defense and stamina for survivability and hit and strength for threat and damage. I can see a lot of tanks going for this once they hit 80. My only hope is that it doesn't end up being like The Sun Eater when you can go and try and get it every day for a few months and not see it drop until you go on your alt and have it DEed.

Good luck and happy tanking!

Comentado por 36691

I'll take the Red Sword of Courage to protect me. If you don't hear from me in a month, send Linken.

Comentado por 169025

Is it just me or it happens that a heroic drop is on par with 10man Naxx drop?
https://www.wowhead.com/cata/item=39344

1 for threat, 1 for mitigation perhaps.

Comentado por Aftershocks

Heres an item comparison with this sword and Slayer of the lifeless.

https://www.wowhead.com/cata/compare=37401;39344

Comentado por 111034

It's a 25% drop chance. On heroic mode, King Ymiron is bound to drop one item of epic quality, and he has 4 items of epic quality in his loot table.
Random Number Generator is just not on your side.

Comentado por jaxsonbateman

Yeah, it's all RNG - this item is not super rare. I ran about my 8th H-UP today and finally got it (for my tankadin set). On the other hand, for my first week of heroics it was pretty much plate from every boss. I loved it as my gear got upgraded very fast (all 3 sets), although my groupies were obviously none too impressed. ^_^

Comentado por Kanaazg

This sword is by far my favorite epic drop in Wotlk, it has great tanking stats, + it looks absurdly look cool. This sword is by far the best tanking weapon pre-naxx, it took me about 8-9 runs to get it to drop, happy hunting to any tank looking for this sword! would GREATLY reccomend it to all of you starter tanks

P.S yeah, it's the sun eater 2.0 as previously stated ;)

Comentado por goodnessa

Got mine last night, hurray! Looking for advice on what kind of enchant to get on it, there's not much for tanks in WotLK. I've been throwing a titanium weapon chain on most of my weapons. Any suggestions?

Comentado por 30597

I'd use Adamantite Weapon Chain over Titanium, because threat is a complete non-issue so far in WotLK so I value parry more than +hit as it currently stands.

Other than that, you could get Mongoose which I'm guessing still has great uptime. If that's not the case for some reason, get +26 AGI.

Comentado por 141319

Depends on what class you are and how much threat you currently output.

If threat is not such an issue, it could be argued the weapon chain; the HR is obvious but the jury is still out on how often/long you are disarmed for the threat to be equal to the straight AP enchant.

TBC potency (+20str) is still incredible for a Paladin/Warrior as it provides both AP and BV, giving you threat boosts in all areas.

Personally I've been using the weapon chain to boost my HR, but I'm considering putting TBC potency on.

There is no obvious choice at the moment.

Edit: As written by Xadaver below, the new enchant in patch 3.0.8 will render these choices largely irrelevant, as the new Titanguard (+75 Stam) would be more beneficial than a threat enchant; although keeping a weapon with a threat enchant (Potency/Superior Potency) on could be handy for farm content.

Edit 2: And now the Titanguard enchant has been removed

Comentado por 30597

Potency is a good idea, thanks for the suggestion.

Comentado por Punkenjoy

See it dropped last night. That instance is relatively easy if you have a good group that can avoid the Ice breath from third boss

Dropped last night, but our tank was realy &*!@ off when the DPS DK rolled over him... He say it was better than his weapon for dualweilding for his crit build

Morale: If you are a tank that want this sword, don't invite other plate wearer or put master loot on last boss.

This sword is incredible

Comentado por 271733

After a grueling 11 straight days of running Pinnacle I've finally had this drop. We'd even seen a proto-drake of Skati before this go figure haha =P
Anyway gotta say this is an amazing for any sword using tank. The 38 def rating is a nice touch to help push us over the 540 def cap for raids, and the stam is just great. Im thinking a 26 agility enchant would work great for a little more threat from crits (to go along with the strength) and for the dodge it would add.

Comentado por 271990

Yeah just ran my 10th run and still havent seen it drop. All I keep seeing is that stupid Sovereign's belt. I feel your pain fellow tanks...

Comentado por Sly99

As a tank I say this is a better sword than the naxx one, the speed isnt really a concern to me, it has more stamina=health and more def=avoidance.

Comentado por 274025

i have ran this place 15 times now and still no sword, i have seen skadi's mount three times... does that defy all logic? i almost want to give up... /frustrated

Comentado por 274183

I was planning to farm the dungeon on a daily basis based on the comments I see on here. I got it on my second run through. Much to my excitement and that of my friends who agreed to help me but hate the dungeon.

I couldn't be more psyched it dropped. It took me 11 Heroic Mech runs to get the Sun Eater and never even saw King's Defender drop.

Comentado por Kebabas

This is incredibly annoying to obtain, seems mostly the cloth belt drops , after ~19 runs it finaly dropped but a DK took it saying he needs it for his tanking gear....

Comentado por BabyToe

Omg this just dropped for me on my FIRST run, it has hella good stats and looks badass =]

Comentado por yhtomitn64

Hey this dropped for me two days after my post. I was pretty psyched and told all my guildies on vent as well as all my friends in the game. I'm a dork.

Comentado por 171534

Aw, I love all the sore tanks down rating everything because they haven't gotten it yet.

<3

Comentado por 144140

The tanking weapon choice enchant as of 3.0.8 will be Titanguard (cannot link as it's not ingame yet), this will be +50stamina to weapon and will cost 12 dream shards in materials (5abyssal crystals to purchase the pattern in Dalaran.)

I think the effective health from this enchant will be more useful than the on proc dodge from mongoose.

Edit 17/1/2009: Titanguard has been removed from the Public Test Realm :-/ i hope this is because theyre putting a glow on it but who knows.#

Edit2 18/1/2009: Looks like what rea123 said is right for now thread's here if anyone wants to add their 2p (i can't as they're US forums)
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=14318707674&pageNo=6&sid=1

Comentado por 284234

From what I've read, Mongoose is still a valid option for tanking, and theoretically provides a bigger bonus than +24 agility, here's how:

Mongoose has a 1.33 PPM, so it's uptime is around 19.95 seconds (round to 20 just make it simple). If Mongoose procs 125 agility for roughly 20 seconds for a minute, then we can safely say you have an average of 41.67 agility.

41.67 agi > 24 agi.

This plus the 1% weapon haste helps our threat SLIGHTLY.

I personally think it's a no brainer.

Also, I've checked into Lifeward, and apparenly it's proc rate is horrible, so I'm not even gonna consider it (and they want 4 Abyss Crystals too)

Comentado por 189410

I have just a couple of little things to discuss here.. the main discussion here involves the difference between The red sword of courage and the slayer of the lifeless. Earlier posters have claimed that the slayer of the lifeless is likely the betetr sword for tanking, providing more threat and more damage mitigation. It appears to me that these individuals have not entirely researched the math behind the stats on both swords. For warriors, these sites should be consulted to understand what I am about to say:
http://www.wowwiki.com/Formulas:Block
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=75381044&sid=1
or
http://www.tankspot.com/forums/f63/40003-diminishing-returns-avoidance.html
http://wowvault.ign.com/View.php?view=Guides.Detail&id=93

Stamina 1 point difference is a change of 10hp and thus is relatively insignificant.

The extra 4 strength on the slayer means an extra 2 hp damage mitigation by a block, plus an extra 8 Attack power. This is basically insignificant. In essence it more or less offsets the extra .1 dps on the red sword, and the extra stamina.

The extra defense rating on the red sword, based on the numbers shown above would translate into an extra .52% increase in each of Dodge, parry and block. This total is equivalent to an overall increase of 1.56% chance to mitigate damage by the red sword over the Slayer.

The extra dodge on the slayer gives it essentially a .66% chance to dodge and thus mitigate damage .66% more than the red sword.

The extra hit rating on the red sword gives about a .2% better chance to hit a target, and thus more likely to cause more threat.

In short, the real difference between the swords reveals that the red sword provides .9% better damage mitigation and .2% better hit rating than the Slayer (not including the diminishing returns on Dodge) while the other stats basically cancel each other out.

In my opinion, based on these numbers, The red sword of Courage can be seen as being the better weapon for a tank.

Remember that even though the defense cap is between 540 and 550, that does not mean that continuing to up your defense rating is not beneficial.

Feel free to let me know if I am wrong in any way here.

Comentado por 219272

Just got this baby today - 5th or so run... not too bad. Once you get the hang of the bosses its a quick instance.

Gonna put on some Potency - mostly for looks.

LOOKS>STATS!

cheers,
peaka aka. motör

Comentado por 285350

At the moment I'm dual wielding this weapon and slayer of the lifeless to reach the defence cap. I know tanking with a 2h is better as DK tank, but getting uncritable is first priority, and it works great in heroics since parry gibbing isn't really any problem there.

Comentado por Farore

Some encouraging theorycraft for the ones who have farmed for this and still not seen it drop: the statistical chance for it to drop is 1 - 0.82^AAARGH, where AAARGH is the number of runs it hasn't dropped plus one (in other words: your current run). So if it's your 10th run, the drop chance will be 1 - 0.82^10 = 86,26% (given that the drop rate listed by wowhead is correct). With this in mind, the statistical chance for it to drop (read: your luck) increases every time it doesn't drop, so maybe that will get you on happier thoughts :D

Fail math proven wrong. Time to blow the dust off those old math books!

Comentado por 275694

I did the dungeon 14x got it last night at 1am Server time (aszune)i think try at night i always get the drops i want last at night

Comentado por 87178

The discrepancy in avoidance numbers posted above is more then likely to do with deminishing returns, and the def skill at which points of def begin to lose value...

Comentado por Soulkeeper

Is it just me or are there not many slow HS swords anymore, i mean someone would think that they would become more commonly seen after devastate came in play(the extra DPS/aggro you get from higher top dmg weapons) but i see them ever more scarcely

Comentado por Nastrodamous

great sword for 32/39 DW dks

Comentado por 305172

Beautiful tank sword.
Just got it on my tank, and its fun.
HAHA
Like i know what im talking about.

Hadees

Comentado por 249835

skadi beam me up-OH WAIT your dead =P

edit: whoops wrong boss

Comentado por 305541

15 runs, this is the pain you would have to take with the same badluck as mine, finaly it proved otherwise, when I won the roll over some ninja in the grp :-)
But , you can go around easily with infantry assault blade or that axe from HC oculus, so if you will go annoyed by those Skadi wipes since the healer says you are a lame tank = not his fault when he goes OOM, you can find your satisfaction elsewhere
even thought ppl say its one of the hardest HCs, I went there and done this with 20k hp 499 def tank, and I went there again better equipped with 28k hp 532 def later :-D and you can still wipe if ppl do not know wtf to do...
GL with having this sword to drop! :-)

Comentado por 249835

yeah I have decided to frost DW (no comments on parry gibbing please) its a great idea untill you realize you got to get two of them. so yes i got two of these along with 50+ badges. add up the bosses and do the math : s

Comentado por whitedragon254

if they ever implement the sword Flamestrike (blade of the sunstriders) i could see it using this model. hell maybe a darkfallen has it..

Comentado por 249835

oh i was woundering about why i couldn't equip it. danget i need to read more. it said cant equip so i was like wtf. oh well got lots of badges, may as well see if i can use them on some good OH.

Comentado por Aeni

Just a note to players who are trying to obtain this weapon. Sometimes you will come across players who might not be so inclined to tank this instance and will most likely join your group as a DPS. Be sure to make loot rules clear to everyone that loot are to be rolled on by main specs first. A couple of my friends were shafted on their own runs (One a Warrior, the other DW-Death Knight) when DPS members in their party (One a DK, the other a Pally) rolled need on the weapons.

All players have a right to roll on loot, which is why I am making sure everyone is aware of the potential problems item drops such as these can cause. If you're rolling with people who you are comfortable with, then this won't be an issue. However, calling out loot rules before the start of any kind of "loot run" and taking an extra precaution of assuming the role of Master Looter (with the consent of the group) will prevent a lot of "omg I got ninja'd" type of situations.

Comentado por 312539

Seriously, if your gonna be running this as any spec besides tanking and are trying to get the sword, make sure you let everyone know before you spend everyone's time doing this instance and just shouting "NEED" when it drops and stealing it from the tank when your Holy speced...I guess what im saying is that it is just damn rude to roll for an offspec item when someone obviously could use the item and who has put time in the group and passed on everything previous that you would use even tho it is good for their offspec.

Comentado por Xystophoros

Having helped many friends on their runs to get the Sun Eater (and now this sword) I fully sympathize with tanks who have loot taken from under their noses by people who show up as DPS. So I agree, it's best to establish loot rules and let everyone know of your intentions before the run starts. Remember, without the tank the run would not be possible, so show respect to your tank by allowing them to get their main-spec weapons when they drop. It'll benefit you too, the next time you run with that tank and their shiny new sword is providing you with a higher threat ceiling.

Good luck to everyone trying to get this.

Comentado por 292661

Is it just me, or is this sword actually pretty awesome for dw hybrid DK's in a 32/39 build

Higher dps than anything else pre-raid.
strength/stam/hit rating?

minus the defense it's actually a pretty awesome dps weapon too.

not saying i would roll on it over a tank, but still, i have one sitting in the bank i think ill use to replace my slow MH

Comentado por 306457

What about my case? This sword dropped for me in an instance (i'm a rogue currently with daggers) and the tank didn't want it. Actually, everybody wanted to pass on this 1.

I said "can i take for off-spec?"

-No you can't we DE it.
-Rogue with OS?
-pass it Elv
-it's tank sword lol! just pass

thanks alot. i passed and i didn't even win the damned shard.

Lesson to be learned? 'Need' if you think it's an upgrade and nobody else wants it. I wanted to spec swords, so.. having no swords, it sure as hell was an upgrade!

Comentado por 321158

is it red from blood getting on it? or is just because some parts of the sword blade are red? also, would this be good for a dwarf hunter to use? and if so should i use two of them or get a other one for the other hand? i think it looks cool.

Comentado por 322287

I find it very amusing that you're debating which sword is marginally better when I've been running UP HC and Naxx for weeks just trying to get either. Who gives a $%^&.

Comentado por 253196

Quite a bit of useful information on here, so here's something to negate it all:

This sword looks freakin' awesome.

Comentado por Sador

Just a note to bear in mind with this sword. It is significantly more difficult to get this vs. Slayer of the Lifeless. Not so much the fight with Ymiron, but his bodyguard, Skadi, is like tryin to take on the 3rd army with a commando team. So bear that in mind as you decide to attempt this nigh impossible feat.

Comentado por zanzibar

Skadi is beatable. This is a method I came up with to play to the strengths of the only tanking class I know, which is a warrior. This fight can be done different ways with other tanks. As a healer I've been through it with both DK and Paladin tanks and they approach it much differently. If you are not a warrior tank, feel free to experiment, or try the reset method*. I'm 5 for 5 with this strategy with different group make ups, so I think it is fairly sound.

Key points:

* 1 person designated the harpooner. Responsible for collecting the harpoons and using them to shoot down the drake with the harpoon guns at the end of the hall. You'll need about 6 to be safe. Some folks can do it with less.

* 1 person designated the Main Assist Responsible for marking priority DPS targets (usually with a skull - thus the "follow the skull" phrase). Priority DPS targets are the ranged harpoon throwing mobs and the shadow casters. DPS focus fires those targets to take them down fast to keep them off the healer.

* Everyone staying out of the room by the harpoons. Once groups make it to the end of the hallway, they have a tendency to chase the mobs in to the room to get them as they spawn. This is a real mistake as it puts the healer in a tough spot. If he doesn't follow the group, he's lost Line of Sight (LOS) and can't cast. If he does follow the group, he's in direct LOS of the casters that spawn. It's easier to have the tank by the doorway, and the healer to his left, down the corridor. This keeps everyone in LOS of the healer, and the healer out of LOS of the spawning ranged mobs. The mobs will then be forced to go through the tank to get to the healer, making it easier for the tank to pick them up.

* Stay out of the frost breath. It's easy to dodge and being aware can save your healer some grief and you a run back from the Spirit Healer.

* Stay out of Skadi's whirlwind. It hits for a lot. If it's coming toward you, run away. Backing up is too slow generally and strafing is a better idea. The rest of the group should be following the boss to engage as soon as the whirlwind stops.

I position myself about 1/4 the way up the hall, which is far enough that I won't aggro all of them, but still get a good size group (usually about 5). Thunderclap and Shockwave get used right away to establish aggro, then tab target quickly to apply Shield Slam, Revenge, or Devastate - which ever one is not on CD and available. The Sunder glyph is handy here as it will apply the sunder effect, and apply some threat, on a mob near the one targeted. It's important to keep in mind that Thunderclap and Shockwave will not be enough to keep them on you, so get some real threat on them quickly, as the DPS are laying the smackdown pretty hard at that point. I will also apply vigilance on the MA, siphoning off some of his threat and keeping my taunt on a short CD. I generally save taunt for the mobs that are standing out of range of my AOE to get them off the healer and give the MA time to grab them.

You want to move steadily towards the end of the room. I try to have a good size group on me - about 4 or 5. Once I have less I know it's time to move up. Keeping an eye on the healer is important too, at this point. Some do slip through, and the extra range on taunt comes in handy. I try not to charge or intervene back, as it will move the whole scrum back. It's important to maintain your forward momentum. Once you get to the end of the room, you get some time to breathe as the mobs spawn in 2's and 3's in the room. They will come out, so standing in the doorway will let you grab them easily. While you are bottle necking the mobs, the DPS with the harpoons should be on the guns shooting at Skadi. Once he's down, the hard part is over (assuming your group remembers to move out of the whirlwind). Loot and Profit.

*: The reset method is one in which the event is started and all then run back in to Gorehoof's room. The mobs will disappear and then everyone runs down to the harpoons before the boss has a chance to reset. At this point, someone runs back down to where Skadi is standing and starts the event. The tank (preferably one with strong AOE tanking) tanks the trash in front of the doorway to the room, and you collect harpoons as normal. I've tried the reset method as a warrior, and there is just no way to keep aggro on all those mobs - it turns into chaos, which is 1 step away from a wipe. Other warriors are welcome to try it, but unless you greatly over gear the instance, it's my opinion you'll have trouble.

Comentado por 46998

Three straight weeks of running this and not one single drop of this sword, even saw the drake drop (of course I lost). To top it all off a guildie says last night in gchat as my group is running it "Hey guess what , red sword dropped , but no one needed so we de'd it" . Sigh......

Comentado por 333180

Wtf with this sword? i run H UP for 8 times and no sword is dropped is it that hard cause all of my friends who did it for the first time t droped!.is it that hard to drop? or im cursed?

Comentado por leetnoam

18% drop chance my ass
Have run Utgarde Pinnacle at least 30 times (literally)...enough times to get 2 factions to exalted from revered and 1 to revered from friendly without doing any other heroic -.-
Hasn't dropped once.
./wrist

Comentado por 336909

this sword looks so much better than the 3 tanking one handers that have a higher score than it

Comentado por 336909

oh yeah and it dropped for me 3rd run. :)

Comentado por 333147

Just got this on my first run through :D :D

Comentado por 340556

dropped on my first UP(looks like i have loads of luck at first heroics,as i had last night with https://www.wowhead.com/cata/item=37852 ...on my first hc HoL)...no1 needed so i rolled for offspec....
good luck guys !

Comentado por nachodan

Be sure to make loot rules clear to everyone that loot are to be rolled on by main specs first. A couple of my friends were shafted on their own runs (One a Warrior, the other DW-Death Knight) when DPS members in their party (One a DK, the other a Pally) rolled need on the weapons.

Thats just pathetic. Tank gear goes to the tank. Always.

I was actually tanking some normal 80 instances with a PuG when the healer's Tank friend logged on and one of our DPS had to go. They wanted to run some heroics and I respeced DPS to run with them. This sword dropped and the tank actually encouraged me to roll against him. I just couldn't out of principle.

He "got me back" (his words) by passing on the DPS plate legs from UK a half hour later. I added someone to my friends list :)

Comentado por 34715

when DPS members in their party (One a DK, the other a Pally) rolled need on the weapons.

Why a DK would roll on a one handed tanking weapon is utterly beyond me...Tanking by DKs is sooo much more effective with two handers.

Comentado por 275976

can a dk unholy dps dw this, im just wondering becuase it has the defence rating but will that really matter?

Comentado por 318811

Can you carry two of these at a time?
That would be amazing.

Comentado por agentex50

@ Skettzvill: Seeing as Arthas is constantly sending 'copies' of himself to mess with people like Drakuru, hes probably having fun with his Battleguard 'Angel' chicks on his oh-so-special throne XD

Comentado por 260800

That is exactly what happened. I've been trying for 2 weeks now to get this on my Proc pally, but my Frost DK saw it months ago on his first run in UP Heroic... but 2h's...so it was DE'd... what dumb luck.

Comentado por 270028

Courtesy of the new dual spec feature, you will see a lot more DPS and healadins rolling need against tanks on this gem of a weapon.

You have been warned!

(Even though I still won the roll lastnight, the healadin that tried to need can eat a $%^&.)

Comentado por 270028

Alternately, announce that you will switch to master looter before the boss at the beginning of the run, and if any of the plate dps/healers have a problem with it, they can opt out of this run.

Comentado por 355490

Argent Tournament has new tank axe..Better than this sword if you ask me and looks so much cooler.

Comentado por valfader

I've lost the roll for this sword so many times. My advice to you is to NEVER join a group with other plate wearers that can use this. Simply because it brings out the ninja in every child.
As of right now I have tanked and lost the roll versus a dps spot for this sword NINE times. That's not just nine runs, but nine times that it has dropped, and some idiot have ninjaed it.

Either lead the group yourself or make sure that the master looter has a brain.

Comentado por 171630

Why has no one commented on the excellent model graphic for this sword?

It's beautiful.

Can't help but think it would look even more amazing as......oh.......maybe.......a two-hander. :x

Comentado por 360713

21 times and 14 have been the girdle of bane!
it is so annoying in the time i have been getting this Sword the blie drake has dropped 3 times. is so amaingly gay

Comentado por 331906

I've been trying to get this sword to drop since Feb 13th 2009. It's now May 4th 2009. I go to this instance about 20 times a month and just can't get it to drop. Might as well call it .

Comentado por Nafre

Why a DK would roll on a one handed tanking weapon is utterly beyond me...Tanking by DKs is sooo much more effective with two handers.

Two handers might do a lot more burst dmg but so far i havent seen any problems tanking with dual tanking weapons. My survival as a dk is almost as high as i have on my prot pala. I use no cc whatsoever and without proper tanking weapons i`d be missing quite a lot of avoidance. I have tanked with a 2h (icier barbed spear) but except for the high ammount of dmg from my frost strike, my howling blast and icy touch do just as well. At lvl 75 i can keep threat from lvl 80 dps and i can survive overpulls quite easy. Sorry if no1 agrees with me but dw for me is absolutely perfect. Good stable threat.

Comentado por TheTempest

This one really looks good with.

https://www.wowhead.com/cata/item=43085#

Comentado por Pondus93

Why aint this a 2-handed sword? look at the size!, its HUGE! put it on your back and slay some dragons!

Comentado por Nafre

I am considering to use this as offhand for my dw dk tank, mainhand being infantry assault blade from heroic uk. What i am asking is would this be enough to become my mh if i can get my hands on slayer of lifeless or will the difference in raw dmg be too high on strikes? Dont rate me down for being a dw dk tank, I am only asking in case some of you may have an idea of what is best

Comentado por TheTempest

God damnit this Sword have had me @#$%ed of several times since it wont drop. I think i have went somewhere around 10+ times after it and it simply dont drop.

Comentado por lock101

I just got this as a Ret Paly as the tank was a DK and didnt want/need it and me and our healer got to roll on it, fortunately I won it 33/93 and i'm pretty happy as I've been wanting it for my tanking set, Ive probably only run H UP around 10 times or so and tonight was the first time I had seen this sword drop. Earlier in the day I was also lucky in getting the Horn-Tipped Gauntlets from H gundrak as we had a Druid tank and I was the only plate wearer. Also, I finally won a roll on the bronze drake that day. Not a bad day of wow for me. toke toke ~

Comentado por 359184

it finally dropped after 18 runs....

was going crazy offcourse :D

Comentado por 368797

droped last night on the anvilmar server. my buddy has run up for the last month and not seen it drop. seen the drake drop twice and yet no sword. unholy dk needed and won, not even duel spec'd. yet took this from the tank. Mookii from the "Divination" guild. good job, another useless dk. so, has anyone come up with a good nickname for useless dk's like they did for the hunters (huntard)?

Comentado por Haxxer

It feels like it has really low drop chance, because I've done over 10 runs, with no drop :(

Comentado por Fpiceail

Got this on my Paladin tank my first ever time killing the boss :D

Pretty big improvement over my Hunter where I had to kill the last boss of Utgarde Keep 12 times for the crossbow.

Comentado por 411084

Best tanking wepaon pre-naxx

Comentado por 266285

Significantly more difficult? How is it significantly more difficult when there's the chance you might need to run two other whole damn wings before coming up to one of the bosses that drops the Slayer, not to mention the drop-rate of THAT, too?

Red Sword of Courage is much easier to get. I admit, getting through Skadi is a mother!@#$ing son of a !@#$%, but even then Skadi isn't the equivalant of another 8 bosses AND trash.

Comentado por 266285

Best ~~tanking wepaon~~ ONE-HANDED tanking weapon pre-naxx

DKs tank too you know.

Comentado por hellsslayer

For me this item has a horrible drop rate. I have run this more times than i can remember and have not seen it drop. Ill put it this way... I saw the blue proto-drake mount with a 1% drop rate drop before this. (and no i didnt get it. I rolled a crappy little 17.) however on my server (nazgrel) it is a must have for pre naxx and other raid tanks because it is A) a heroic dungeon epic tanking sword and B) better or as good as anything you will get for awhile which make the 20 or so runs (at least in my case) totally worth it. To end i have one thing to say. Get it.

Comentado por 101254

My 9th run and still no drop, cmon blizz, fix the drop rates please! :(

Comentado por leeyah

one of the coolest looking one hand swords in the game IMO. The hilt of the sword has a little flame effect which looks awesome. I'm probably going to keep this for a long time.

Comentado por 83401

A nice sword indeed.
Gladly I won it on my very first run there.

Comentado por 375262

the point is, this sword looks way way WAY better than the Slayer sword! Plus, chances are your not going to feel the small dodge diffrence and are going to change back to the red sword of courage once in a while anyway. Red Sword of Courage FTW!

Comentado por InorganicMatter

There is NO WAY this has an 18% drop rate. Just did the 30th run, and it STILL hasn't dropped for my brother. Either we've got the worst luck ever, or Blizz has tweaked the drop rate.

Comentado por 319708

This sword has a killer model. I'm never getting rid of it.

Comentado por 127323

I ran this place several times before I got it to drop today for my prot pally. Slapped Mongoose on it and it looks awesome. A small upgrade from the Teldrassil Protector but it is the coolest looking tank weapon I've seen. I plan on keeping it for a long time.

Comentado por 447317

5 days of running Heroic Utgarde Pinnacle with people who knew the strategies and I finally got mines!

Comentado por MasakiKudo

I have this on my main, its not that great, it drops alot in H UP, for tanking its ok, but im working on Peacekeeper Blade, but it never drops. o.o

Comentado por 173812

This sword means, the courage to actually dear challenge the Ancient King of the vrykul, Ymiron.

Comentado por Bangbangbang

Would be awesome to dual-wield it with the sword that drops from HoR chest after escaping from the lich king!

Comentado por 559738

K see im a prot warrior, and i really want this, screw the slayer, yes theres more dodge etc, but having more def, speed id be inclined to go with red sword of courage. I'm trying to start tanking raids for my guild, as my GS is 3613 im strugling o gear but the Courage looks mint. I've been after this for a couple days now :) Seen some nice drops though ^^

Den
Wildhammer, Ravenswing
L80 warrior

Comentado por 605611

If I have Nighttime as my main hand and I'm a DW DK Frost Tank, should I use this or the Axe of the Sen'jin Protector as my offhand?

Comentado por 605415

ok i gotta admit im new to DKs and the 4.0 patch made it harder. i understand that if your frost you should dual wield and im lvl 68 rite now using Shaarde of the Lesser. But later should i use 1h weapons like this? or the normal DPS ones rogues use with Agi?

Comentado por Lazurianis

Warrior DPS in Full ICCH Gear Quenes for a Random Heroic and gets in to find the group is on King Ymiron.

The Red Sword of Courage dropped.

Tank: OMG
Tank need rolls on Red Sword of Courage.
Warrior: Pfft, I am taking that.
Warrior need rolls on Red Sword of Courage.
Tank: WTF dude your a DPS. Why did you need roll on a tank item?
Warrior: Why? Because it's red.

Comentado por LoKHor

One of the best swords for transmogrification, for any class that can wield swords; yes, even casters! Another option is Língua do Mentiroso, which is a bit harder to get solo. This model is much better looking than Devorador do Sol, which was pretty hip back in the day.

Comentado por limoc3

this would look AWESOME with a Ymirjar Lord set on a Warrior.

Comentado por Sykoo

Decided to run this place while I was waiting for dailies to reset.. Already have the mount on 3 toons.. Figured i would try and get the sword for my DK's transmog set.. First run.. sword drops.

Comentado por stevetl

Got mine running UP for Children's Week! What a great model, will keep this forever.

Comentado por Allakhazam

I've been to UP HC many MANY MAAAANYYYY times on my tankwarrior, and the one time it dropped, a rogue needed it and won.

ARGH!

Comentado por Allakhazam

Dropped for my paladin first time through.

Comentado por Allakhazam

run this place at least 7 times now, always the effing girdle of bane >:|

Comentado por Allakhazam

I just saw a warrior on my server (Silvermoon EU) with this.
Where is it from?

Comentado por Allakhazam

i've had this at least twice, once for my self and greed rolled the other :), i've only run it about 20 times at most, got the 1st one for me on the 5th run i think

Comentado por Allakhazam

...and would you believe it dropped on the 9th! woohoo!

Comentado por Gusten

I don't know about the probability for it to drop.
I've been farming this since I hit 80 in wrath classic.
It have been about two weeks I've done this dungeon now for that sword.

I've seen the same cloth items drop over and over, even the mount have dropped 3 times during these runs.
But no sword...

I guess the mount is like what 1% drop and sword 25%?
So I hope you are more lucky than I am with this sword.
And no I've lost all rolls on the mount ...

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