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Commento di 153946

Looks like Tanks and Shockadins are using maces again. Though the stats are more suited to TBC as far as the Protection build is concerned where we did everything with spellpower. Now however we need strength and white damage more than anything so I'm not sure these stats are exactly what we need. If I had to guess I would say Protection Paladins no longer have a Gladiator Weapon since they were rarely ever used in the Arenas and this is now solely for Holy.

Commento di 105203

(This analysis is assuming patch 3.0)
White dmg does not get the benefit of righteous fury. So white dmg is of little importance. We still have 90% increase in threat from righteous fury on our HOLY** dmg. All our abilities and spells are holy. OUr abilities though are now dependent on just spell dmg but also AP. Seal of Righteous has 0.055 coefficient on spell dmg and 0.028 coefficient on AP,which means 0.055 coefficient on STR. Seal of vengeance has a 2 to 1 ratio between the coefficients of AP and Spell dmg, or 4 to 1 of STR vs Spell dmg, favoring STR 4 to 1 over spell dmg. New talent in prot tree gives spell dmg equal to 30% of Stam and considering the stamina increase talents (St and Combat expertise now 6%) , that means 100 Stamina gives about 37 spell dmg.
Other abilities likes avenger shield , the judgements , holy shield also depend on AP and spell dmg instead of only spell dmg now.
THe only thing that depends on dmg of the weapon is Hammer of the righteous. BUT IT is the "DMG per Second" of the weapon NOT the base dmg. Melee speed is completely IRREVELENT. It uses the number in "41 dmg per second" not the base dmg number above.
IF you want to maximize dmg from your "Hammer of Righteous" spell, you could obtain a melee weapon, though keep in mind you are losing the spell dmg on the weapon and melee weapons do not have enough STR to compensate forthe loss of spell dmg. Assume at best you use Seal of Vengeance, a melee tanking weapon provides 29 STR , which also helps with defense which is an advantage over a spell dmg weapon. https://www.wowhead.com/cata/item=39344
THe SOV dmg according to
https://www.wowhead.com/cata/spell=31801
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29 STR in terms of coefficients for the SOV dmg is equivalent to 120 spell dmg. Compared to this weapon, that is a loss of over 461-~120=~340. This implies a 0.016*340*6=41 loss in dmg per SOV which lasts 15 s, but stacked five times, that is ~200 dmg/15s=14 dps loss which is proportional to threat by 190% with righteous fury. The judgement gives = every 10 s assuming you do not have the imp judgemetn talent. IN judgement, that is striaght loss of 461-29=430 spell dmg or 0.28*430=120 dmg or loss of 12 dps.
Now the question is would a multi tanking ability such as Hammer of righteouson a boss would be used often enough to compensate for the loss in holy dmg /threat in SOV and the the other abilities -judgement,holy shield, avenger shield. AT 80, you will be using shield fo righteousness over hammer of righteous for a single target boss. It provides more holy dmg for the same mana on a single target. ok so Shield of Righteous gives 240% of BV. STR gives 1 BV per 2 STR now. 29 STR=15 BV, which means it increases Shield of RIghteous dmg by 15*2.4=36 dmg or 36/6s cd = 6dps increase.

Hammer of rightous gives 3 times the "dmg per second" of the weapon on three targets. Using this spell dmg weapon compared to Slayer of the Lifeless (https://www.wowhead.com/cata/item=39344 ) decreases that number by 143-90=53. 53*3=150 or 150/6 s cd=15 dps.

Ok assuming you use both Seal of Vengeance, judgement , Shield of righeous and hammer of righteous this is total difference of -14 dps-12 dps+6 dps+15 dps=-5 dps.
So in one item you lost 5 dps. and we are assuming you can use all these spells in your rotation.

Say you use eal of Vengeance, judgement , Shield of righeous and consecration,
consecration gives over 8s= THe 29 STR is equivalent to60 SPH for consecration. That means a loss of 461-60=400 in terms of equivalent SPH. Dmg for 8s would decrease by 16 dmg or 16/8 s cd=2 dps.
this is total difference of -14 dps-12 dps+6 dps+-2 dps=-22 dps.

The loss using Seal of righteous would be even higher so its not good to SOR with a melee weapon, which has no spell dmg.

The point is any way you look at this, any rotation you use, even the one constantly using Hammer of rightoueos , you are losing threat with holy dmg using a melee weapon over spell dmg weapon on a single target. For multi targets using a melee weapon, spamming consecration and Hammer that is a decrase of -22 dps+15 dps (only on the three targets) or -22 dps on the other targets not hit by Hammer and only hit by consecration.

Honestly, in terms of threat, i do not see the benefit using melee weapon. Ya it has some DR, but is that worth losing all this threat over?

Commento di 220228

genius revenar XD

Commento di 107863

looks like a healing mace for druids:)

Commento di N3RD

Does anyone know yet what if any arena rating this item or the other two new gavels: Savage Gladiator's Gavel and Hateful Gladiator's Gavel will require?

Commento di 138910

Very, very disappointing to see as a Holy Pally.

Thanks blizzard for making this completely useless item... 14 mp5? srsly?

Commento di 234932

They should really implement a proper Deadly healing mainhand for paladins soon. While this is viable, I'd much rather see myself walking around with the dagger, too bad I can't use it. Would be great to see a sword pop out sometime for us crit-happy paladins (cheers for the shield though, got it recently, loving it).

Commento di 386473

I'm a resto shaman and I heal for raids. I have the Infection Repulser currently and it is only item level 200. The armory ranks this mace above mine. I know it is for pvp, but which would be better for raid healing?

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Deadly Gladiator's Gavel

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Main Hand	Mazza

175 - 326 Damage	Speed 1.60

(156.56 damage per second)
+82 Tempra
+36 Spirito
Integrità 105 / 105

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Equip: Improves your resilience rating by 36.
Equip: Increases spell power by 577.

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