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Commentaire de 171630

Seems obvious to me from the stats and look that these are to be Death Knight tanking shoulders.

Commentaire de nerfme

Warriors and paladins also gain approximately 26.5 SBV from these (ignoring talents that modify block value)

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@Thorongil

Post proof of your research.

"Research has shown that Parry is better to stack than Dodge only when your Dodge% is more than twice that of Parry. Just the way the Rating:% ratio and DRs work, your target is 2:1 Dodge:Parry."

That may be true but without proof it just comes across as an appeal to authority instead of useful information.

Commentaire de 224239

Excellent upgrade from https://www.wowhead.com/cata/item=37635 from Heroic Gun'drak. Got it to dropped fo rme yesterday.

Commentaire de 242643

Why does blizzard have to use similar models, i mean in burning crusade, many of the otems are similar to preTBC, the tier sets have exactly (just recolored)the same model of the gladiator gear and now every (sort of) plate items from northrend looks like dk rare set. Blizzard just lost its creativity and gives us recolored armors. Ep!x f4!1

Commentaire de Lolquile

*** For DK's.... ***
Below is a stat comparison of both abomination shoulderblades and T7 10 man shoulders. All calculations/values are stated *before* dimishing returns.

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Basic Comparison, Using X gem to fill the red socket bonus in both items:

Tier 7 (10 Man)

5 Strength
0.95% Parry
6 Stamina

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Abomination's Shoulderblades

2.84 Defense
0.28% Dodge
0.85% Hit Chance

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Advanced Comparison, using X gem to fill the red socket bonus in both items. Brackets indicate what the stat in particular gives.

Tier 7 (10 Man)

5 Strength (10 AP and 0.05% Parry)
0.95% Parry
6 Stamina (60 Effective Health

Coming to a total of...

10 AP
1% Parry
6 Stamina

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Abomination Shoulderblades

2.84 Defense (0.1%-0.12% Chance to dodge/parry/be missed/not be crit)
0.28% Dodge
0.85% Hit

Coming to a total of...

0.1-0.12% Parry
0.38-0.40% Dodge
0.1-0.12% Chance to be missed
0.1-0.12% Chance less likely to be crit
0.85% Chance to hit

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Final Comparison:

Tier 7 (10 Man)

10 AP
1% Parry
6 Stamina

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Abomination Shoulderblades

0.1-0.12% Parry/Chance to be missed/Chance less likely to be crit
0.38-0.40% Dodge
0.85% Chance to hit

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My thoughts....
Which one you pick is up to you, By the looks of it, Abomination's seem to be better for a threat set, whilst the Tier gear seems to be better for a avoidance set assuming you're crit capped using either.

The gem you choose would be up to you, but I'd gem Expertise/Stamina for threat and Dodge/Stamina for avoidance.

If the shoulders give you the 4 set effect then you would gain an extra small percentage damage reduction (I believe in line with 1-2%), so if you wish to go for it then its up to you.

Hope this helps :-) Happy tanking!

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Calculation values:

1 Strength = 0.25 Parry rating (0.05% Parry)
1 Strength = 2 Attack power (AP)
1 Defense Skill = 0.4% Chance to dodge/parry/be missed/be crit
1 Stamina = 10 Health
3.92 Dodge rating = 0.1% Dodge
4.94 Parry rating = 0.1% Parry

PS – If I made any errors, please correct me =)

Commentaire de Gulfstream

i slapped a 16 str gem in it and it's great for my ret pvp set. lol

Commentaire de 298657

I would even go so far as to say that due to the lack of any distinguishing stat (shield block for example) the item is not only good for any tank but is designed to be utilized by any plate tanking class. how can one say that this is better for one tank class over another when all it has is basic tank stats... stam... defense... dodge... and hit is never a bad thing...

Commentaire de 71213

Back to the actual item, it drops from patchwerk in 10 man naxx. They are on par with T7 shoulders in itemization https://www.wowhead.com/cata/item=39613 . As well as most non tier pieces that drop in 10 mans, it shares the look of the deathknight starter gear.

Commentaire de Miwna

You are all forgetting why Parry is more expensive than Dodge.

After a successful parry, the defenders swing timer is reduced (or even reset), resulting in an increased damage output (for details see Formulas:Parry). While tanks like to profit from this effect, melee damage dealers should attack from behind whenever possible, both to increase their own damage and to avoid causing unneeded damage to the tank through the enemy's parries.

Commentaire de 239153

Pretty much every tank going into naxx is going to be wanting these, regardless of class. What you have to remember is that outside of a raid the best you are going to find is these in Gundrak Heroic for a warrior or paladin, and probably these from HoL Heroic for a DK.

The epic world drop has some mileage for warriors/DKs but pallys are better off with Pauldrons of the Colossus.

Remember, these drop of the first boss of construct (a fairly easy boss at that), whereas something like T7 shoulders (which is the other ones you'll be after) is last boss in plague and hence harder to get (and you have to fight with every1 else wanting T7 shoulders).

Commentaire de 400690

this is a really useful item for my dk tank. I dont mean to say that its not good for other classes, but my DK dual wields for that extra parry, while losing a little dodge from no stoneskin gargoyle. This really makes up for that lost dodge as i would prefer using a defense trinket and essence of gossamer instead of the EoH one.

Commentaire de 450675

I totally want these! Good for my Death Knight! :D

Commentaire de 427803

These Shoulders are currently bugged. The socket bonus actually gives 25 defense rating, not 4 like it says.

Commentaire de chillywilly125

Anyone see that they look like Blood Soaked Saronite Plated Spaulders that DKs get when the do all of ther Acherus quests? I've seen some toons that have some that look like em, weired.......

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