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Comentario de Itziae

Este es un método de subir reputación desde odiado hasta neutral , ya que a partir de neutral deberás de subir con otras quest.
Es un buen método para obtener el insane , ya que según lo que lei , debes alcanzar el nivel maximo con bucaneros y con cartel bonvapor , pero actualmente ya no hace falta tener las dos a la vez al maximo nivel de reputación.

En inglés publicaron esta guía que os traduzco adelante:

Para la reparación óptima de esta reputación

Para aquellos que buscan utilizar muchos materiales , pero a la vez optimizandolo y reparar su reputación goblin con las cuatro facciones , teniendo en cuenta los precios actuales la casa de subastas, es más rentable siguiendo el orden de acontinuacion .Necesitas todo el lino que posible para obtener la reputacion neutral con la facción de Trinquete, todos los paños de seda para obtener neutral con la Bahia botin, entonces todos los paños rúnico para obtener neutral con Vista eterna , y por ultimo todo el tejido mágico para obtener neutral con el Gadgetzan.

Estaba pensando en si hay alguna manera de encontrar un enfoque más óptimo. La idea es que las quest de tela para una facción, además sube reputación con todas las otras facciones, aunque a un ritmo menor,asi que quizas a la larga podria ahorrar dinero.

Para cada facción, una quest da 500 de reputacion para esa faccion. Esa misma quest da 250 de reputación con todas las demás facciones goblin, así que el problema que queremos resolver es conseguir más de 42.000 reputación con las siguientes limitaciones:

* Una vez neutral con una faccion no podremos completar la quest mas veces respectiva a esa facción.

* Al final, cada facción tendrá por lo menos 42,000 reputación (neutral).

* Queremos minimizar la cantidad total de oro empleado en tela en la AH.

He utilizado los siguientes precios para un stack 20x de tela:
Paño de lino: 1,5 g

Tela de seda: 4,5 g

Rúnico: 6 g

Tejido mágico: 31 g

Estos precios son, básicamente, el precio normalizado de un stack 20 .La disponibilidad de la AH es del 2009/12/22 en el reino de Cairne, alianza.

Los resultados que he obtenido para el turno óptimo en cantidades fueron:

Paño de lino: 168 stacks (84 quest)

Paño de seda: 84 Stacks (42 quest)

Rúnico: 40 Stacks (20 quest)

Tejido mágico: 22 Stack(11 quest)

Este es esencialmente el cambio en la rutina que usaría arriba, con un pequeño cambio - sólo se utilizarán 20 stacks a su vez de paño rúnico en lugar de los 21 que necesita para hacerlo neutral. Con el cambio en el número anterior, esta sale con el total de oro de 1552. Con la estrategia más simple de gasto excesivo con neutral , después de las 21 quest de paño rúnico, todavía se tiene que hacer 11 quest de tejido mágico, lo que da un costo total de 1.564 de oro.

Así que técnicamente no es la solución más óptima para ganar su reputación de nuevo, pero sólo le ahorra doce oros y si los precios de las telas en la AH son enormemente diferentes de los valores que he utilizado (específicamente para el tejido mágico), quizas no saldria rentable este método. Pero si están cerca, entonces podrías ahorrar oro.

De todos modos, pensé que iba a publicar esto para que otros que tienen curiosidad acerca de esta cuestión lo sepa y no pase el tiempo para calcular realmente todo lo que hace falta, descansando y sabiendo con tan solo ese dinero puede recuperar su reputación con las facciones Goblin.

¡Buena suerte!

Comentarios

Comentario de Serathis

What is this quest for?

Comentario de 91244

A useful quest if you suddenly realize farming Bloodsail rep wasn't such a good idea, or if decided one day to go on an rampage in Booty Bay or Tanaris. It can be obtained from the NPC Mupsi Shacklefridd, just outside of Ratchet. It's far enough outside the boundaries of the city that you won't aggro guards by approaching, but be careful, because if you go too close guards will spawn to (try to) kill you.

You can pick up the vials from the Crossroads, and you can farm tons of Linen in the Barrens, or buy it from levelers as they should be getting tons themselves.

Comentario de Tsaza

This quest is for gaining reputation back to Neutral from Hated.

Comentario de veno3

If you are completely hated with all Steamweedle factions you need to turn in the following amounts of stacks:

Ratchet (Non-Human): 168 Stacks of Linen and 336 Empty Vials will get you to Neutral.
Ratchet (Human): 152 Stacks of Linen and 304 Empty Vials will get you to Neutral.

Comentario de Raithon

Maybe farming bloodsail rep wasn't such a good idea after all...

Comentario de 21158

At level 80, in 3.0.3, turning in this quest only gives +500 Ratchet -500 Bloodsail. There appears to be no more other cartel rep.

Comentario de 232266

Thank you Wowhead for having this quest!
It saved my dream of "The Merrymaker"
Lets leave it at, as a mage cooking wasn't important until i needed 325 to make eggnog for the achievement. I was screwed because I grinded up bloodsail. Not in the modd for 1rep/kill in tanaris for the cooking quest there, this saved my dream.

And thank you for the helpful advice

Comentario de 153653

But when u ding neutral with Rratchet you are still hated / hostile with the others since when u turn this quest you get 500 rep with ratchet and 250 rep with the 3 others,....where to go when u are neutral with ratchet but still need rep with Booty Bay, Gadgetzan and Everlook ?

Comentario de trogstar

If buying the Linen Cloth from the Auction House isn't an option (for whatever reason), then slaughtering Southsea Freebooters is the way to go. They're all over the place just south of Ratchet, they drop loads of linen, they now award +5 Ratchet rep per kill (+25 for Baron Longshore!) and they respawn almost instantly! Two birds, one stone.

Of course, the same goes for the Southsea Freebooters and Wastewander bandits in Tanaris and the Bloodsail Buccaneers in Stranglethorn Vale. As far as I know, nothing gives Winterspring reputation just from kills though.

It's... it's almost as if Blizzard planned this! *gasps*

Comentario de 292350

http://www.wowwiki.com/Mobs_which_affect_reputation_with_Steamwheedle_Cartel

Comentario de 323020

Does NOT appear to count for Loremaster of Kalimdor, even on first turn-in. In case anyone was curious.

Comentario de 201877

As stated before, this is expensive like mad for the weak reputation gain, you need to have 2,3k cash ish (If each 20 Linen cloth is for 2g each) to get to neutral with Ratchet.

Im gettin my reputation up with all of the Steamwheedle Cartel on my main at the moment, after i got to neutral i figured out this was a bad idea, couse now im after another achievement called Feast of Strenght. So i started over, killing even more Booty bay npcs. /sigh
This means i can't do these quests to gain reputation up as they decrease with Bloodsails, ask me where i am now? constantly killing Southsea Pirates to gain 5 rep each whack with Ratchet, This will take A long time, but it's atleast worth it concidering if you get Bloodsail rep you can atleast do this as they require about the same time.

When your done, go do Ratchet quests and after that, go too Stranglethorn Vale and kill Venture Co's. rince repeat!

Good luck fellas.

Comentario de slicerace

Optimal Reputation Repair

For those of you looking to use as few mats as possible to repair your goblin reputation with all four factions in the most efficient manner possible, given current auction house prices, it is most cost-efficient to essentially just go in order -- turn in all the linen you need to get neutral with the first faction, all the silk to get neutral with the second, then all the runecloth to get neutral with the third, then all the mageweave to get neutral with the fourth.

I was thinking about this and whether there was any way to find a more optimal approach. The idea is that turning in cloth for one faction in addition raises rep with all the other factions as well, albeit at a smaller rate, so maybe by not maxing out each faction right away, we could save money

For each faction, one turn in yields 500 rep for that faction's particular cloth quest . That same turn in also gives 250 rep for all the others, so the problem we wish to solve is to get more than 42,000 rep with the following constraints:

* Once neutral is reached in any faction, no more turn ins for that faction can occur.

* At the end, each faction must have at least 42,000 rep (neutral).

* We want to minimize the total amount of gold spent on cloth at the AH.

To solve this problem, I wrote a MATLAB script to determine a "rep vector" whose four elements are the reputations with each faction at the end. Inside, there is simply a for loop that takes in a "turn in vector" whose elements are the number of turn ins for each faction. When rep with a certain faction exceeds 42,000, no reputation is awarded for further turn ins, which accounts for the constraint that the quest cannot be done at that point.

It goes through and allocates reputation linen first, then silk, then runecloth, then mageweave, since in my auction house on Cairne at the time, this was the order from least to most expensive, so the answer likely will decrease the number of turn ins as the expense per stack gets higher.

I used the following prices for a 20x stack of cloth:
Linen Cloth: 1.5 g

Silk Cloth: 4.5 g

Runecloth: 6 g

Mageweave: 31 g

These prices are basically in line with the normalized price of a 20x stack output from Auctioneer on 2009/12/22 on the Cairne realm, alliance side.

I then used a simulated annealing routine to essentially throw in semi-random turn in vectors and compute their cost. If the total rep vector did not equal or exceed 42,000 in each of its entries, the cost function would return an arbitrarily high cost (meaning it is not a solution).

The results I obtained for the optimal turn in amounts were:

Linen Cloth: 168 stacks (84 turn ins)

Silk Cloth: 84 stacks (42 turn ins)

Runecloth: 40 stacks (20 turn ins)

Mageweave: 22 stacks (11 turn ins)

This is essentially the turn in routine you would use above, with one tiny change -- use only 20 turn ins of Runecloth instead of the 21 you need to get neutral right away. With the above turn in numbers, this comes out to 1,552 gold total. With the simpler strategy of maxing out neutral immediately, after the 21 turn-ins of Runecloth, you still need to do 11 turn-ins of Mageweave, which gives a total cost of 1,564 gold.

So technically there is a more optimal solution to gaining your reputation back, but it only saves you twelve gold and if the prices for the mats on your AH are hugely distorted from the values I used (specifically for the mageweave), then it won't apply. But if they're close, then you could save twelve gold. Woot.

Anyway, I thought I would post this so that others who are curious about this question can find out and not spend the time to actually compute it all out, resting peacefully knowing that they're getting the most goblin rep bang for their gold.

Good luck!

Comentario de 693616

Does these turn ins lower your bloodsail rep?

Comentario de AyaJulia

Does these turn ins lower your bloodsail rep?

Welcome to Wowhead. Here at this fantastic site, you'll notice that every quest comes complete with several things, including:

-The quest text and quest objectives, under the heading "Progress"
-A map of where one may complete the quest objectives, under the heading "Relevant Locations"
-The text you receive upon completion of the quest, under the heading "Completion"--though you need to click on this to see it, so as to prevent spoilers
-Any quest rewards, including items and reputation, under the heading "Gains"

You'll see above that the "Gains" section reads as follows:

Upon completion of this quest you will gain:
500 reputation with Ratchet
-500 reputation with Bloodsail Buccaneers

Thanks for tuning in for this edition of how-to-wowhead. We here in the World of Warcraft community hope you enjoy your stay and eventually pass on the knowledge you have gained. :D

Comentario de Ellesar1

Does not count for loremaster or x quests completed achievements.

Comentario de DemonicSide

Just done this today (working on insane again) and you get 250 Rep to ALL 4. Off to purchase more cloth...

Comentario de 762945

Regarding Ratchet reputation (without the Don de gentes buff):

The Southsea Freebooters are now on Fray Island located on the southeast tip of Northern Barrens.

Capitán Garvey gives 25/12.5 rep. He respawns faster than the other mobs. Baron Longshore is gone.
Glomp gives 0 rep. He also respawns faster than other mobs in the area.
gives 5/2.5 rep.

I've noticed I get more wool cloth than linen cloth from Glomp and Cap'n Garvey.

Comentario de Avalionis

I noticed there's two Ratchet Bruisers standing near Mupsi...she seems to be the only quest giver to repair goblin rep, that's standing near Bruisers. All the others are at a safe distance.

Comentario de 314494

Just an FYI/Reminder, if you have the Traveler's Tundra Mount, Gnimo will sell Crystal Vials for you, so that is one less thing you have to carry in your bags before you visit the quest NPC.

Comentario de Hajimoto

I noticed there's two Ratchet Bruisers standing near Mupsi...she seems to be the only quest giver to repair goblin rep, that's standing near Bruisers. All the others are at a safe distance.

Tell you more: they can and will attack you if their aggro radius is big enough. This is certainly not an issue for a mighty 85-lvl raider, but an unpleasant surprise for any fresh-made low-level Bloodsail Admiral like me :)
The bruisers at some distance to the right and to the left of Mupsi are going to make your shy attempts to settle the matter a slightly more interesting quest. There are several ways of dealing with this.

1. The boring way. Wait till you hit high level. As your hero gets more levels, aggro raius of the bruisers decreases. At some point you'll be able to turn in the quest without the danger of being shot, caught in the net and shot again.

That's just too boring for us, right?

2. The nifty way. Find (or bribe :) two players with their mighty 85-lvl characters. Your guildies, friends, anyone. The best pair is tank + healer. They need to attack and hold aggro of these two bruisers while you turn in the cloth. A little note here: there is actually no need to kill the bruisers, just to keep them busy long enough. This can be quite a fight since in Cata bruisers hit like small angry trains and use nets, yet any good tank and healer should be able to hold them at bay for five minutes.
And don't forget to sound the tactical retreat when needed :)

Little tips:
- Count your cloth before you go. You should be able to hit at least "Unfriendly" with Ratchet to prevent the bruisers from attacking (since then you can easily give your cloth without your "escort group"). If you're lazy counting vials, grab a huge pile - they're cheap.
- When counting cloth take into consideration Mr. Popularity guild buff. Also keep in mind human racial bonus and Hallow's End buff. There was Pilgrim's Bounty buff last year, too. Holiday buff stacks with guild buff.
- Try to do it in one run. Clean up your inventory and load it with cloth and vials. You may also want to send yourself all the needed items by mail and ask an engineer to drop MOLL-E near Mupsi. Lucky goblin fellas can put their cloth in the bank and call their friend Gobber instead. Goblin friendship FTW.

Comentario de 601920

For Alliance, forget grinding pirates for Linen. SW of Sentinel Hill the gnolls drop lots of linen and respawn pretty much instantly. No better place in Cata. We're talking a stack a minute or so.

Comentario de Treenubbin

For anyone repairing their Goblin rep, here's a list of all the repair quests.

Everlook Quest
Booty Bay Quest
Ratchet Quest
Gadgetzan Quest

Hope this helped (:

Comentario de 403189

can buy crystal vials from Riendas del mamut de tundra de viajero

Comentario de Allakhazam

How do you become hated with these factions?

Comentario de Allakhazam

There are four quests:
Ratchet - Curar viejas heridas Bay - Un traidor de Velasangre - Guerra en el mar - Enmendar los errores quest givers are located just outside each goblin town, close to the main road. They are always friendly and don't belong to any faction (technically).
They all involve giving two stacks of cloth (40 pieces) plus four other items that you can buy from a Trade Goods vendor.

The quests are only doable if you're below neutral with the respective faction. So for example, you have to be Unfriendly or lower with Ratchet, in order to do the Ratchet quest. It doesn't matter what your reputation is with the other goblins.

Each quest gives 500 rep to its corresponding goblin town, and a 250 rep spill-over to each of the other goblins. Also, each quest gives a 500 rep decrease with Bloodsail Buccaneers.

Comentario de Allakhazam

If you are at 0/36000 hated:

You will need to do 72 turn ins of 40 linen and 4 empty vials to reach: "Hostile"

if you are at 0/3000 hostile:

You will need to do 6 turn ins of 40 linen and 4 empty vials to reach: "Unfriendly"

If you are at 0/3000 unfriendly:

You will need to do 6 turn ins of 40 linen and 4 empty vials to reach: "Neutral"

So in all you will need to do a grand total of 90 turn ins which is:

3600 linen
360 empty vials

Comentario de Allakhazam

At Hated i got +500 rep with ratchet and -500 rep with the bloodsail buccaneers.

Comentario de Eibis

Found this quest in BFA on 65.71 in Ratchet

Comentario de Sokaero

In Classic, the female goblin NPC that offers the quest Mending Old Wounds is named Mupsi Shacklefridd. She is located almost directly on the main road leading into Ratchet, west of Ratchet, and the coordinates are 61, 38.

Comentario de Arccai

So which faction is which?

Guerra en el mar
Enmendar los errores
Curar viejas heridas
Un traidor de Velasangre

Comentario de Strath

This is available as alliance in WOTLK classic aswell.

Enlaces

Curar viejas heridas

Progreso

¡Piénsatelo dos veces antes de meter el pie en Trinquete, <nombre>! Se ha corrido la voz de tus sucios actos.

Pero tienes suerte, acaba de llegar un barco con muchos heridos de una escaramuza con los Bucaneros Velasangre. Esta es tu oportunidad para demostrar que no eres una pilla integral. Échanos una mano trayendo paño de lino para las vendas y viales vacíos para las pociones.

	Paño de lino (40)
	Vial de cristal (4)

Terminación

Ganancias

Cuando completes esta misión ganarás:

500 reputación con Trinquete
-500 reputación con Bucaneros Velasangre

Comprueba si ya lo has completad escribiendo:

/run print(C_QuestLog.IsQuestFlaggedCompleted(9267))

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