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Kommentar von 583527

According from Wowwiki, Garrosh Hellscream appears during the quest. He is angered by Krom'gar's unhonorable act bombarding innocent people below. Garrosh will punish Krom'gar by dismantling his army, relieving him from his duties, and dismisses him (Grabs and throws him off the ledge).

Kommentar von 240259

To be Horde, or not to be Horde, that is the question.

Kommentar von Thigrai

Was simply epic. I even came to respect Garrosh, too bad that i lost my rank of General :(

Kommentar von 366196

Garrosh will in this quest show a new and unexpected side of himself, just like Varian Wrynn does after alliance kill Deathbringer Saurfang. This quest, like that event, changed my opinion on the factionleader from very bad to not that bad after all.
I fear however that any of Saurfangs actions will ever be know to the alliance, and thus be weak lorewise.

Kommentar von saruu

This in my opinion,is one of the best quest in the new old world...Garrosh has gained my respect even more.

Kommentar von jaq1010

When I heard that Garrosh was replacing Thrall as Warchief, I was appalled. I said to my guildies that there was no way in hell I'd ever accept Garrosh as Warchief. Today I decided to take my main to Stonetalon because I heard the quests there were pretty amazing, and I got to this quest. And after it, I thought this:

"Long live the Warchief."

Only the most stubborn supporter of Thrall will be able to come away from this quest without a newfound respect for Garrosh. Do the Stonetalon chain just to get to this one, it's worth it.

Kommentar von Kevo

The rp takes about 5 minutes, hope you're not like me and have several people in a row grab it before you.

Kommentar von 709483

Epic epic epic epic. New Stonetalon was just amazing. The entire zone was one continuous storyline. And this was just an awesome ending to it. <3

Kommentar von saruu

(Spoilers for those who haven't completed the questline!)
@Golbeza,no Garrosh says clearly his command wasn't too kill innocents,the overlord has his general commit treason (killing the high cheiftan's son and having him general kill his wife),and on top of that the general assaulted the cheiftan...garrosh threw him off the bridge (or whatever you want too call it because) 1. The overlord killed several innocents on top of nuking a entire NEUTRAL druid sanctuary,even garrosh knew they were no threat. 2. The overlord commanded his general too kill his the high cheiftan's son and he also killed his wife,and they burned his entire home too the ground. 3. He went against garrosh's command AND committed treason and burned down the high cheiftan's home...
The overlord got what he deserved,and once again garrosh clearly states it was never his command too kill innocents OR nuke the entire neutral druid sanctuary.

Kommentar von karijne

Don't forget to head back to Krom'gar Fortress to pick up your headpiece from the quartermaster.

(And consistency fans, avert your eyes from the parade ground.)

Kommentar von TehFacroller2000

I think I'll finally respect that sonuva bastard Garrosh. But... I'll still hate him.

Kommentar von 382834

So, I made my first Horde toon (troll druid), always been partial to the Alliance, and after completing this zone and ending it with this quest all I have to say is Amazing job Blizzard. Stonetalon is actually fun and I have gained a new found respect for Garrosh Hellscream. When leveling a new toon do not skip this zone. Great job.

Kommentar von Vsin

Did anyone else notice that Overlord Krom'gar's voice acting was done in the same style as Jessie Cox did in his videos of the Stonetalon quests? For comparison's sake:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdN5qSRguc0&t=1m50s

Kommentar von 146438

The quote "Honor, no matter how dire the battle, never forsake it" comes from Overlord Saurfang after defeating his son Deathbringer Saurfang in ICC

Kommentar von 132595

Just in case anyone was wondering I am pretty sure this quest line begins at this quest in Ashenvale.

Edit: I had problems getting the link to work.

Kommentar von Elric

You can read the full conversation here :
http://www.wowwiki.com/Quest:To_Be_Horde...

Kommentar von shadowlock90

I believe it's the best quest period.

Kommentar von leettroll

From a Purely RP stand point:

Honestly, before i did this quest i didn't like Garrosh, not because he was ugly, not because his head is smaller than the standard orc head, But because i was loyal to thrall and didn't want him replaced. I did question thralls motives behind putting garrosh in power, but after doing this quest....I think he will make a Great Warchief, rivaling thrall even. Honestly i would love to see garrosh fight Varian...as i know garrosh would love to fight that human.

THATS WHAT WE NEED! a quest where we watch our faction leader fight the opposite faction leader in the argent tournament.

Kommentar von Judejudejude

Best quest I've Done so far! BADA$$$$$$$! Maybe He isn't that Crazy XD

Kommentar von mikfox

Meh.

Garrosh have done what needed to be done. Maybe everyone is just surprised he didn't act like a total jerk, as he usually does.

Feel free to downrate me, but I find it a bit disappointing how people in comments suddenly start to see Garrosh as their new true leader and Warchief, rivaling Thrall etc etc after he just punishes a general who disobeyed orders and acted wrong.

How does this compare Garrosh to Thrall after everything Thrall have come through and everything he have done for the Horde? Maybe you didn't play Warcraft III campaign.

I guess Blizzard lore designers at some point realized that Garrosh was too full of fail so far, and decided to kinda ease up on him, he's a new Warchief after all.

I miss Thrall, I think he represented the Horde unlike anyone else, he knew what it is To Be Horde and he was the Horde.

Kommentar von Boffin

Wow. A quest that made me actually respect Garrosh.

Anyone know if there's a soundfile of his "You are dismissed!"? I'd love to macro that to my hunter's Dismiss Pet spell.

Kommentar von Mumpley

Besides Garrosh's unexpected change of heart, this quest -- more specifically, quest line -- centered around The Bomb is actually quite fascinating.

As a Goblin character in Kezan, you had to do the quest Waltz Right In for Slinky Sharpshiv. In it, you had to steal Trade Prince Gallywix's prized possessions with the hopes of reselling them and making big moolah. The 3 possessions were Maldy's Falcon, The Goblin Lisa and... The Ultimate Bomb? Hold on a second... a super secret bomb being worked on by Hobart Grapplehammer? That sounds awfully familiar.

Further down the line while in Azshara, you have to deliver an unstable Azsharite Core from Hobart's Secret Lab to his assistant, Greely, in the quest Segmentation Fault: Core Dumped. Being the decent Goblin he is, Dr. Grapplehammer manages to weaponize the unstable core and then gives you the task of delivering it to Bilgewater Harbor in the quest A Hello to Arms. Assuming Hobart is trying to finish his work from Kezan, the Armed Azsharite Core is the continuation of his "Ultimate Bomb".

Lo and behold, after a pit stop in Ashenvale, failed interventions from the Alliance and a refueling session, this bomb is finally dropped over Thal'darah Grove in this very quest. So basically, Hobart Grapplehammer built a nuke out of Cliff Giant poop, sent it to an insane Overlord who then used it to destroy a grove full of innocent Druids. Oh, how I love Blizzard.

Kommentar von 545559

Not be cruel or anything toward garrosh but i must bring up the fact that he was about to kill you if old chief cliffwalker hadnt had stopped him...

Kommentar von zingar

the quest along with the music (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31idljBoLfc) made this a lovely and yet sad quest.

by far my favorite chain

Kommentar von 319288

New Stonetalon Mountains will be my favourite zone from now on. All the quests linking up together,making you curious, doing all of them with ease, it was just epic.

When we look at the lore Thrall is and will be a bigger Warchief than Garrosh, but with this quest no Horde member will look at Garrosh the same way imo. Well done Blizz, you know your job.

Kommentar von digitalutopia1

One of the only starting quest chains for Trolls can be done by any horde race, and finishes with Vol'Jin talking with Thrall. In the conversation Vol'Jin not only expresses his doubts and concerns about Garrosh, but Thrall also tells him exactly why he chose Garrosh.

It really is worth going through those few lowbie quests to get a clearer picture of things from both Vol'Jin's and Thrall's perspective.

For the sake of getting to the point, below is a portion of the conversation where Thrall states his reasoning behind choosing Garrosh.

Vol'jin, I chose Garrosh because he has the strength to lead our people through these trying times.

For all my supposed wisdom, there have been moments that I've barely been able to hold the Horde together. The Wrath Gate and Undercity displayed that clearly.

The Horde cries for a hero of old. An orc of true blood that will bow to no human and bear no betrayal. A warrior that will make our people proud again. Garrosh can be that hero.

I did not make this decision lightly, Vol'jin. I know our alliances will suffer from it. I know the Horde will be irreversibly changed. But I made this choice with confidence that Garrosh is exactly what the Horde needs.

I'm trusting you and the other leaders to not let this divide our people. You are stronger than that.

Kommentar von 795645

Make sure you have your view distance far enough or else you'll miss the great finale with the bombing

Kommentar von Kilre

Just played through the questline; honestly the first one in Cataclysm that brought a little flicker of emotion by the end for all the death and destruction wrought, especially on the tauren and the druids.

Couldn't care much for the Alliance along the way.

Kommentar von Blackboy0

Overlord Krom'gar says: Watch now, Cliffwalker, as this battle comes to its glorious conclusion.
High Chieftain Cliffwalker says: You are about to cross a terrible threshold, Krom'gar. may the Earth Mother have mercy on your soul.
Overlord Krom'gar says: Look upon the world, Cliffwalker, and see the might of the Horde!
*The Ultimate Bomb is dropped on Thal'darah Grove*
Overlord Krom'gar says: Warchief! I… I was carrying out your command!
Garrosh Hellscream says: My command?
Garrosh Hellscream says: Was my command to murder innocents, Krom'gar?
Overlord Krom'gar says: Warchief… Sir… I…
Garrosh Hellscream says: Am I a murderer, Krom'gar?
Overlord Krom'gar says: No, Warchief!
Garrosh Hellscream says: Then I ask you again: WHAT HAVE YOU DONE!
Garrosh Hellscream says: I sent you into Stonetalon Mountains with an army. Your orders were to secure this land for the Horde.
Garrosh Hellscream says: Instead, you laid waste to the land. Murdered innocents. Children even…
Garrosh Hellscream says: I spent a very long time in Northrend, Krom'gar. I learned much about the Horde in that time.
Garrosh Hellscream says: While there, a wise old war hero told me something that I would carry with me forever…
Garrosh Hellscream says: "Honor", Krom'gar, "No matter how dire the battle… never forsake it."
Garrosh Hellscream says: Overlord Krom'gar, you have disgraced the Horde.
Garrosh Hellscream says: You have brought shame to us as a people.
Garrosh Hellscream says: By my right as Warchief, I hereby relieve you of duty.
*Garrosh Hellscream picks Overlord Krom'gar up by the neck and walks to the edge*
Garrosh Hellscream says: YOU ARE DISMISSED.
*Garrosh Hellscream lets go and Overlord Krom'gar falls to his death*
Garrosh Hellscream says: And you, <Race>!
*Garrosh Hellscream turns to the player*
High Chieftain Cliffwalker says: Wait, Warchief! Please! <Player> was the hero responsible for uncovering this corruption. He tried to stop Krom'gar!
High Chieftain Cliffwalker says: Have mercy, Warchief.
Garrosh Hellscream says: Mercy… Your wife and child were murdered. Your kin wiped out. Your home burned to the ground.
Garrosh Hellscream says: Mercy… Chieftain, on this day I learn from you.
Garrosh Hellscream says: <Player>, Krom'gar's army is no more. Your rank no longer has meaning. If you wish to truly help the Horde, your considerable power could be used in Desolace or in the Southern Barrens.
Garrosh Hellscream says: The choice is yours to make.
Garrosh Hellscream says: Let honour guide you, <Name>. Do not forget that Hellscream's eyes are always upon you.

Kommentar von 824637

I'm at the hot air balloon but nothing is happening. Is there something else you have to do to start the quest?

Kommentar von bbbrasil

The previous line os quests in Spiel mit dem TeufelsfeuerSplintertree, ending with an infuriated GarroshDer Tod steht ihm gut is loosely related, and it just added a bit more to the awesomeness :-)

Kommentar von Charanari3

By far my favorite quest chain... at least so far. I have gained newfound respect for Garrosh. I never DID like him but I didn't dislike him either. "Honor, no matter how dire the situation, must not be forsaken." Epic, just epic.

I still prefer Thrall over this red Orc, but at least now I respect him.

Kommentar von azzazil

What a good quest... /yell My life for the horde !

Overlord Krom'gar says:

Watch now, Cliffwalker, as this battle comes to its glorious conclusion.

High Chieftain Cliffwalker says:

You are about to cross a terrible threshold, Krom'gar. May the Earth Mother have mercy on your soul.

Krom'gar releases the balloon holding the goblin bomb and sends it towards Thal'darah Grove. On arrival, the balloon drops the bomb directly on it, obliterating the entire area, leaving a large crater behind.

Overlord Krom'gar says:

Look upon the world, Cliffwalker, and see the might of the Horde!

A portal from Orgrimmar suddenly forms nearby. Garrosh Hellscream and his guards emerge from the portal.

Garrosh Hellscream says:

What have you done, Krom'gar?

Krom'gar bows before Garrosh.

Overlord Krom'gar says:

Warchief! I... I was carrying out your command!

Garrosh Hellscream says:

My command?

Garrosh Hellscream says:

Was my command to murder innocents, Krom'gar?

Overlord Krom'gar says:

Warchief... Sir... I...

Garrosh Hellscream says:

Am I a murderer, Krom'gar?

Overlord Krom'gar says:

No, Warchief!

Garrosh Hellscream says:

Then I ask you again: WHAT HAVE YOU DONE!

Krom'gar begins to cower before Garrosh.

Garrosh Hellscream says:

I sent you into Stonetalon Mountains with an army. Your orders were to secure this land for the Horde.

Garrosh Hellscream says:

Instead, you laid waste to the land. Murdered innocents. Children even...

Garrosh Hellscream says:

I spent a very long time in Northrend, Krom'gar. I learned much about the Horde in that time.

Garrosh Hellscream says:

While there, a wise old war hero told me something that I would carry with me forever...

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Old war hero ofc High Overlord of the Kor'kron Guard, Supreme Commander of the Might of Kalimdor, Varok Saurfang
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Garrosh Hellscream says:

"Honor," Krom'gar, "No matter how dire the battle... never forsake it."

Garrosh Hellscream says:

Overlord Krom'gar, you have disgraced the Horde.

Garrosh Hellscream says:

You have brought shame to us as a people.

Garrosh Hellscream says:

By my right as Warchief, I hereby relieve you of your duty.

Garrosh picks up Krom'gar by the throat and lifts him over the edge of the lift bridge.

Garrosh Hellscream says:

YOU ARE DISMISSED.

Garrosh drops Krom'gar off the edge, sending him to his death. He then turns toward the hero.

Garrosh Hellscream says:

And you, <race>!

High Chieftain Cliffwalker says:

Wait, Warchief! Please! <name> was the hero responsible for uncovering this corruption. He tried to stop Krom'gar!

High Chieftain Cliffwalker says:

Have mercy, Warchief.

Garrosh Hellscream says:

Mercy... Your wife and child were murdered. Your kin wiped out. Your home burned to the ground.

Garrosh Hellscream says:

Mercy... Chieftain, on this day I learn from you.

Garrosh Hellscream says:

<name>, Krom'gar's army is no more. Your rank no longer has meaning. If you wish to truly help the Horde, your considerable power could be used in Desolace or in the Southern Barrens.

Garrosh Hellscream says:

The choice is yours to make.

Garrosh Hellscream says:

Let honor guide you, <name>. Do not forget that Hellscream's eyes are always upon you.

Kommentar von 273376

After this quest, I was a little more willing to call Hellscream my Warchief.

Kommentar von 150475

Garrosh: Do I look like a murderer?
*throws off cliff*

Kommentar von Rhynchelma

I found that if I did not stand near to High Chieftain Cliffwalker - I suppose on the "bridge" then the quest did not complete. May be a coincidence.

Kommentar von 855045

I'll admit it. I teared up a smidge. For the Horde, indeed, sir!

Kommentar von ncnblotro

After completion of this quest, be sure to pick up one of the head pieces
Plattenhelm des Generals von Krom'gar
Balgmaske des Generals von Krom'gar
Ledermaske des Generals von Krom'gar
Leinengugel des Generals von Krom'gar
Gepanzerter Helm des Generals von Krom'gar
from Rüstmeister von Krom'gar
that unlocks from completion of reaching general in Krom'gar's Army before moving on to another zone.

These are also the first head pieces available to Horde players questing in Kalimdor.

Kommentar von Niamh

How to get there:

1) Auf Befehl des Kriegshäuptlings: Steinkrallengebirge!
2) Wir haben hier nur eine Aufgabe, vielleicht auch zwei... ... Grunzer von Krom'gar
3) Schritt für Schritt ... Elfenmörderbrustplatte Stulpen des Verbrenners Saurboz' Gamaschen
4) Der vermisste Sprengenieur
5) Angriffspläne der Allianz
6) Feste Krom'gar ... Unteroffizier von Krom'gar

7) Asche zu Asche ... Handschuhe des Flammenwerfers Weste der Asche Gunst des Oberanführers
8) Meldet Euch bei Bombgutz
9) Wo sind die Teile?
10) Eure Teile sind schon hier...

11) Was immer wir tun...
12) Deshalb nennt man sie Peons...

13) Ersatzteile hier herauf! ... Ersatzteilgamaschen Gürtel des Sprengenieurs Bombgutz' Band
14) Die Verteidigung der Feste Krom'gar ... Legionär von Krom'gar

15) Augen und Ohren: Malaka'jin
16) Der Voodoo: Stürmerherz
17) Der Voodoo: Widderhörner
18) Der Voodoo: Resonitkristall
19) Jin'Zils Segen

20) Verstärkung...
21) Die Wut der Kobolde! ... Koboldzänkergamaschen Ausgegrabener Mantel Devos Handaxt

22) Im Süden nichts Neues ... Champion von Krom'gar
23) Der Anfang vom Ende
24) Ein Haufen Probleme
25) Spionageplage ... Kriecheramulett Befallene Brustplatte Bogen des unsichtbaren Ziels
26) Letzte Lieferung
27) Auf nach Kriegsnarbe! ... Grebos Armbrust Zauberstab des zerstörerischen Talents Schild des Kriegsnarbentals Tobender Stab

28) Beweis für eine Lüge
29) Verrat im Hain

30) Das soll Gerechtigkeit sein?
31) Der General ist tot
32) Über dem Gesetz ... General von Krom'gar
33) Sehen ist verstehen ... Klippengängerstiefel Gürtel des trauernden Vaters Mashas Armbinden Orthus' Amulett

Update: added quests 11/12, tnx trombi and blupache

Update 2: moved from reply to normal post, as new system displays larger replies rather weird

Kommentar von Xafire

That quest is simply EPIC.
When I was on the quest I thought " Is being Horde really means that you kill your allies and burn their village, and after that you kill dozens of innocent people and destroy a greet tree older than we can imagine, leaving a big hole in it's place --- omg I'm gonna reroll alliance right now. But then Garrosh apperas and he tells what it truly means to be Horde and punishes Krom'gar -- what an incredible turning of events. I even started to like Garrosh a bit at this point.

Kommentar von 989994

It reminded me of "This is Sparta!" scene from 300 movie.

Anyway, this was an amazing quest!

Kommentar von Riis2204

Doing this quest as a lvl 85 resto druid was a truly frustrating experience, because I was in no way able to help High Chieftain Cliffwalker perform the regrowth ritual on the destroyed grove :( Would've been an awesome way to apologize for not stopping Krom'gar in time.

Truly epic questline.

Kommentar von onspace1

i dont know what garrosh was on about. that was awesome! promote that orc to warchief we need to drop more bombs on these filthy alliance

also you should play "you dropped a bomb on me" by the gap band during the segment where it floats away to the grove

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Beschreibung

Bleibt bei mir, <Name> und seht zu, wie unsere mächtige Waffe den Feind vernichtet!

Versteht, was es bedeutet, zur Horde zu gehören!

Belohnungen

Auf Euch wartet eine dieser Belohnungen:

	Klippengängerstiefel		Gürtel des trauernden Vaters
	Mashas Armbinden		Orthus' Amulett

Ihr bekommt außerdem:

	Orthus' Amulett		Mashas Armbinden
	Gürtel des trauernden Vaters		Klippengängerstiefel

Belohnungen

Bei Abschluss dieser Quest erhaltet Ihr:

500 Ruf mit der Fraktion Orgrimmar

Wenn du Folgendes im Spiel eingibst, kannst du überprüfen, ob du das schon abgeschlossen hast:

/run print(C_QuestLog.IsQuestFlaggedCompleted(26115))

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