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Kommentar von 1515

This big boy has insane amounts of health. Below is a rare video of him being killed, but it took an entire guild over ten minutes to bring him down.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2156731709954982641

Kommentar von BobTheGreat

is he still hard to kill if its a raid of 70s

Kommentar von 30549

A bit of trivia: He can be seen on the radar minimap with the Warlock's Track Demon's ability, or the appropriate elixer that does the same thing, outside of the city in Lordamere Lake.

Kommentar von 14640

We killed him yesterday after killing Sylvanas. He does AoE shadowbolts and AoE life drain. He really doesn't have much hp though, so he dropped like a rock. Switch his HP with Sylvanas it might be challenging. He is chained to the warmaster to the right as you enter the room, so hug the left if you don't want to pull him as you enter.

Video of our kills: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2649424128324653563

Kommentar von 2902

Some info on Varimathras

A Nathrezim Dreadlord once in the service of the Burning Legion under Kil'jaeden's command, Varimathras was forced into allying with the Forsaken under the direct control of Sylvanas Windrunner in exchange for sparing his life after he and his brothers were overcome by her undead forces. He now resides within the Royal Quarter of the Undercity standing at Sylvanas's side.

Kommentar von 75182

poor quality of both videos.. can't see nothing

Kommentar von Gvaldir

i was wondering if you could confirm that he drops that much gold??

Kommentar von 83986

With the ammount of HP stated above (23,000) Varimathras could be 3 man killed, Blizzard always give PvP faction leaders incorrect ammounts of health on this site!

Kommentar von jaarkirr

he is so BIG... lol and i hade UC!!

Kommentar von sammion

AoE Life drain is horrible, but the good thing is if most people in a 40 man raid is well geared, you should be able to burn him down after one or possibly two, they are spaced apart enough to where it's not as terrible, and by the time he does it he should be at 1/3 or so health.

The only bad thing is if you have a lot of horde or any warmasters still up, They can easily wipe you, he drains quite a bit of health.

Kommentar von Kajira

He can be pickpocketed! I need to go back in on my own to see exactly what I got from him. I was too shocked at the time to really make note.

Kommentar von AuReacT

This guy has the most evil voice and lines I've ever heard :o

wtb

Kommentar von 111622

Horde

- Undercity -
Lady Sylvanas Windrunner - Killed by Arthas, used to be an elf
Varimathras - Slaved by Sylvanas after he tried to claim her

- Thunder Bluff -
Cairne Bloodhoof - Leader of the Tauren

Silvermoon City -
Grand Magister Rommath - Some blood elf guy in Silvermoon
Lor'themar Theron - Regent Lord of Quel'Thalas
Lady Liadrin - Blood Knight Matriarch

- Orgrimmar -
Thrall - The Warchief, leader of the Orcs
Vol'jin - Son of Witchdoctor Sen'jin, fought alongside with Thrall
Garrosh - Destined to lead his people to fight against Legion in Northrend

Alliance

- Stormwind -
Archbishop Benedictus - Student of the Alonsus Faol, that's it
Highlord Bolvar Fordragon - Protector for King Anduin Wrynn
Lady Onyxia - A big Dragon
Lady Jaina Proudmoore - Sorceress under Stormwind, played a major roll before WoW

- Ironforge -
High Tinker Mekkatorque - King of the Gnomes
King Magni Bronzebeard - King of Ironforge, brother of Muradin from WC3

- Darnassus -
Tyrande Whisperwind - Leader of Night Elves, alongside her love Malfurion Stormrage
Arch Druid Fandral Staghelm - Leader of Darnassus

- Exodar -
Prophet Velen - Former leader of Argus, Leader of Exodar

Kommentar von cezarmio

I've been searching for the guild "Sovereign" on the server "Dragonmaw" and there was no result.

Kommentar von cezarmio

Who deletes comments?

Kommentar von Rushlock

In the new WoW comic "Ashbringer" Vari comments that he is under the thumb of Syl 'for now'. The comic also alludes to Arathas going to Northrend, making me think the comic leads toward WotLK, perhaps he will turn on UC with expansion?

Kommentar von Aisenfaire

He can be reached by entering the path at 52, 64.

Kommentar von 195614

1,200 health? That can't be right...

Kommentar von 156993

The new model is a big improvement imo.

Kommentar von 133045

He looks much more unique, and the mutton chops are a great improvement.

Kommentar von D4NK

Its about time they gave him a unique model anyway. When i first did hyjal i thought we were fighting vari like the first time we fought Anatheron.

Kommentar von lifedragon

damn that looks wicked. i am really hoping thought they stop doing graphic upgrades or i am going to have to buy a new computer :(

Kommentar von whitedragon254

I think theres actually a glitch with the model listing. it says varimathras' model is Mal'ganispurpleskin, yet his armor and basicly everything about him in his model is green. And Mal'ganis' skin is labeled Mal'ganisgreenskin, yet everything about him in his model is purple. Either its a glitch with wowhead or blizzard doesnt know the difference between green and purple.

Kommentar von Acetylcholine

Can anyone confirm this for me? After the Wrathgate quest is complete, Varimathras appears dead to you. Does this mean you are unable to pick up and complete any of the quests he'd normally give you? I'm interested because this might affect my Loremaster achievement.

Kommentar von 194580

this is the video linked in the purged comment by Twinga, really really cool back story, and shows followup to the forsaken's plague creating post in shatt

http://files.filefront.com/WOW+Wrathgate+1024avi/;11881764;/fileinfo.html

Kommentar von Domir

My suggestion is to do ALL quests that start at, or end at him before doing the quest line that makes him disappear. Well, only if you are going for that lore master achievement. Otherwise don't worry about it

Kommentar von 39098

Will Alliance raids no longer need to worry about Varimathras? Or will only raid members who have not done the Wrath gate quests see him? Has anyone experienced how that works?

Kommentar von rebsten

Can anyone comment on what happens to the quests he starts/ends after you do the Battle for Undercity?

Kommentar von 266839

If u killed Varimathras in a quest then he wont respwan...

show if u want to do the loremaster Achievements do the quest's hi has first...

Kommentar von 91230

available as wow mini
http://wowminis.tcgplayer.com/games/303/WoW_Miniature.asp?Mini=Varimathras

Kommentar von 280424

so it means who done the quest of the undercity battle can't do the loremaster achievement? :S

Kommentar von Voodoochild

Well there goes my loremaster attempt, thanks blizz.

Kommentar von zapiks44

Those concerned about getting the Loremaster achievement should have nothing to worry about. I have the Loremaster achievement and even after getting Loremaster of Eastern Kingdom, I had dozens of quests leftover in the Eversong Woods and Ghostlands. Varimathras is involved in only 7 quests, as this page shows, so even if you aren't able to do the quests he gives, there will still be more than enough quests available to get the achievement.

Kommentar von Zmic

He looks like he could have good use of some strong Coffee.

Kommentar von raddue

You cannot do the quest because Vari isn't around; he isn't in the throne room with Sylvannas and you defeat him (if you're Horde) when you do the questline for Battle for Undercity.

It's unfortunate because I'm working on my Loremaster stuff but I can't complete it now. Oh well.

Kommentar von 309613

Varimathras - one of the last Nathrezim aka Dreadlords - the other one's Balnazzar (https://www.wowhead.com/cata/npc=10813) also known as Grand Crusader Dathrohan (https://www.wowhead.com/cata/npc=10812). They've changed the appearence of him alot to the new expansion. You gotta kill him in "Battle for Undercity" in a phased Undercity. A tip is to silence him since he casts Drain Life, but he's much easier in the phased Undercity - if you ask me.

Kommentar von 317295

for those still interested, I talked to a gm today, first thing i asked if i should just dump the battle for hills brad quest and he said no, there is a way to summon him, think dark magic. that was all he would say soooo, there's a way to get Varimathras back, just need to figure it out.

Kommentar von 320146

Does anyone know if he will be replaced after the quest where you kill him?

Kommentar von 210895

Hmm what would happen if a raid attempted to kill Sylvannas and some of the members didn't do the questline, would Varim attack the people who haven't done it?

Kommentar von 385742

Uhm...
Alliance raid on undercity...
If some completed the questline, and some havent, what the $%^& then happens? ;P

Kommentar von 105612

I spoke with a GM today, and received this response:

"This is a known issue - next major patch should hold a resolution. Keep in mind that it is something that can change. So for now it should be resolved next patch."

Hopefully they remove him as a questgiver or he's back in some form next patch :)

Kommentar von Gnoktish

after doing the Battle for Undercity im happy/sad that i did it THATS 1 DEMON OUTTA MY LIFE!

Kommentar von 424653

I'd just like to say there IS a chance of him coming back. Mal'ganis was killed by Arthas weilding Frostmourne and still came back. Lorewise it is nearly impossible to kill a dreadlord and have it remain dead, so far almost all major lore dreadlords have come back despite being killed. I doubt blizzard would allow Vari to remain dead if he was simply killed by some players, imagine all the lorefreaks who would QQ about it.

Kommentar von Suzaku

Varimathras has a new voice actor as of Patch 3.2, and all of his voice acting has been completely redone.

Kommentar von signalfirefly

Really, people, is it that unreasonable to expect players to finish quests involving this guy before killing him? It's just common sense if you ask me, you kill the guy, then he's not gonna be around anymore. If you need the quests for Loremaster (as has been said before, they are not essential), just do those first, before the Wrathgate. Pretty simple.

Kommentar von Mipe

Out of curiousity, is he still there for raiding Alliance players who have completed the Wrathgate chain?
I gather he doesn't help Sylvanas in a fight anyway, but it's still one less boss mob in the area if he disappears for Alliance, too.

Kommentar von 432194

ARGH! you alliance killed him he isnt there :( >_>

Kommentar von 227440

A thing i have noticed about this guy, is that when alliance raids come to get Sylvanas, he doesnt do anything at all, unless hes being damaged himself. I think this is because he is the traitor that he is, and he dont care about Sylvanas, in fact he probably rather see her dead, so he can continue his plans more easy.

Kommentar von 111622

The question floating around here why he doesn't do anything when Alliance raids the Undercity. Varimathras doens't appear to the Alliance, he only appears to the Horde players who haven't yet done the Chain quest. Pretty sure, but not completely, if the Alliance does not do the chain quest, he still won't appear to Alliance players. Same story with Proudmoore in Stormwind, I'll target and wave to her while she's talking to the King in Stormwind, but nobody around me (alliance players) will see her there. Illusions, it's something new that they introduced in Wrath of the Lich King, and I'm assuming they're going to be using it WAY more often in future expansions, especially The Emerald Dream (if anything).

Kommentar von Wizardling

Varimathras voice along with Sylvanas' has been changed into something awfully amateurish :-(

Kommentar von 212327

A replacement will appear in 3.3 - have faith. :-)

Kommentar von pietrex

In 3.3 PTR he is replaced by Bragor Bloodfist <Kor'kron Captain>. He most likely offers all the quests Varimathras did. Yep, that's the 'B' we were told about.

It's also worth nothing that all abominations are gone and Kor'kron guards can be seen instead. There is also an overseer down in the Apothecarium. All of them talk as if they didn't trust undead at all.

Kommentar von Enthorn

Good god his voice is horrible... Sylvanas sounds awful as well. Wtf was Blizzard thinking?

Kommentar von 489776

Why Can't I see Him in UC

Kommentar von AchilliezOfThral

As of this patch he is "Away"... a rogue says next to the area he used to be... died?

Kommentar von Skullhawk13

....Looks like Team Dread-lord is blasting off again! *Slight pause......Ping*

Kommentar von 311531

hes begin replaced by an orc O_O dam i cry now =P he was cool

Kommentar von Teldarsterallnes

ah i was wondering where he was.

Kommentar von LordVarbaro

good old days :'( . now undercity isn't that badass as used to be.

Kommentar von Thottbot

Found in Royal Quater of Undercity.

Kommentar von Thottbot

and for those of you who can't find this place its in the back of the Apothecarium. go through the middle section and follow it to the back

Kommentar von Thottbot

56,93

Kommentar von Thottbot

That's the best hint up there. thank you nodd.

Kommentar von Thottbot

I think they really should make an event to pit the current two most powerful faction Bosses against each other. Though my money will be on Bolvar since he can heal...

Kommentar von Thottbot

I just watched a full raid get pwned by him, barely had time to attack myself. Granted there were horde player defenders, but it seems near impossible to take out the faction bosses without multiple raids, but then theres the lag issue. (and server crashes) Anyone seen it done, or been in a raid that did? How many raids did it take?

Kommentar von Thottbot

The bosses are basically identically to players except they have massive amount of HP.

That being said, the bosses have different "true levels"

Here are the list of faction bosses:

Alliance:

Highlord Bolvar, aka I didn't see a giant dragon standing five feet away from me, Fordragon----at stormwind keep
Archbishop, aka I have a basement inviting any horde warlock to summon raid me, Benedictus------at stormwind cathedal
King Magni, aka I need you to kill my son in law, Bronzebeard-----at ironforge highseat
High Tinker, aka no nobody know I exist, Mekkar------at ironforge Tinkertown
Archdruid Faugon, need anger management, Staghelm------at top of Cenarion Conclave at darnassus
Priestess Tyrande, aka husband missing for ten thousand years, Whisperwind---at temple of moon at Darnasus
Lady Jaina, aka I love green (Thrall) more than blond (Arthas), Proudmoore----at top of the Theramore central keep

Horde:

Lady Sylvanas, aka I am the queen of Zerg..er forsaken, Windrunner----at Undercity Royal Chamber
Majordomo, aka I can fly before the beer gut, Varimathas----at Undercity Royal Chamber
Warchief, aka I didn't ninja this platemail, Thrall---at Orgrimmar valley of wisdom
(Don't know his title) Vol`jin, aka I like to stand and chill while alliance raiding Thrall --at orgrimmar valley of wisdom
Highchieftain Cairne, aka I die three times a day at Warcraft III, Bloodhoof---highchieftian's tent at Thunderbuff

That being said, i think the easiest boss to take down will in fact be Archbishop Benedictus. Since there is a basement right beside him which is perfect for horde's summon sneak attack. The archdruid, Tyrande and Jaina are all standing at pretty cramped places, so they are a bit harder.

Sylvanas and varimathas are standing together. Thrall and Vol'jin is standing together. But no raid is really stupid enough to take two bosses on at the same time. They will simply pull one out.

Again, all bosses are acting as players in term of damage, which means they can outlevel you by 10000 level, but you will still be able to hit them.

According to the World of Warcraft Strategy guide, all the bosses are in fact level 63 with exception of Bolvar, Varimathas and Tyrande. (Don't flame me if I remembered wrong.)

varimathas, level 100---probably why no one has tried to mess with him yet. As far as we know, he could have kicked Ragnaros' ass by himself if he tried.

Tyrande Wisperwind, level 75----sigh...poor darnassus, with max population of 5 people at peak hour. Though I did hear quite a few raid wipe from her by the starfall.

Highland Bolvar Fordragon, level 90---if you are alliance come to Stormwind three times a day and watch he kill 7 level 62 Onixya's elite guards by himself and have 80% health left. It has been confirmed by my own eye that he does indeed use divine shield...multiple times in a 10 minute. As far as I know, he is the only boss that will heal himself to full health.

The rest are the bits of information I had with how these bosses fight.

Alliance:

Highlord Bolvar Fordragon----A combination of warrior and paladin, divine shield + cleave + laying of hand? (heal himself to full, but didn't see his mana go down. I want his talent spec!) Summon stormwind guards.

Archbishop benedictus------so far i heard is that he bashes you with his staff and cast holy nova.

King Magni Bronzebeard-----Avatar from Warcraft III. Don't become immune to magic though.

High Tinker Mekkar------no fight heard

Archdruid Faugon Staghelm------been took down a few times, but I don't have any information on him.

Priestess Tyrande Whisperwind---only know she cast starfall sometimes. Summoning darnassus sentienal.

Lady Jaina Proudmoore----Massive AoE at very cramped tower and she will teleport your maintank outside theramore. (Imagining Jaina with a baseball bat and yell "Home Run!") Summoning theramore guard.

Horde:

Lady Sylvanas Windrunner----Shooting arrow with a lot of damage, melee with a sword and teleport around. Summon skeleton guards.

Majordomo Varimathas----no fight recorded

Warchief Thrall---Only saw him fight at distance from the alliance most wanted video. Summon Orgrimar grunts. (He is a platemailed shaman. i don't know whether he cast shocks or not)

Vol`jin-----no fight recorded

Highchieftain Cairne Bloodhoof---Same old Cairne from warcraft III. No rebirth though and the weapon is a giant totem instead of a halberd now.

k, hopefully these information helps.

Kommentar von Thottbot

any vidios recorded of any faction boss being killed?

Kommentar von Thottbot

Was wondering the same damn thing :)

Kommentar von Thottbot

I have witnessed an attempt on the life of Varimathras once in my career. I am a Horde player and was hangin in Silverpine when I heard that a raid was taken down the Undercity. Having never actually seen one I returned to the Undericty to twatch. The group had just finished Sylvannas off. The raid healed up and decided to try for the dreadlord. Being only level 14 at the time I sat back to watch unflagged for pvp. After completley destroying the queen, the Majordomo stepped up, glanced over the ragtag looking group that is characteristic of the eclectic armor in World of Warcraft, and promptly ate them. I speak for all intelligent people when I say I have no beef with the Majordomo.

-Kinka, 60 Mage

Kommentar von Thottbot

i think you have to be lvl 32 or 33 for the quest

Kommentar von Thottbot

I'm pretty sure they took varimathras down once in a raid on khadgar. It would probably take alot more then 40 people though so they probably had more then one raid working on it.

Kommentar von Thottbot

aight so i watched 4 allainc eguilds raid and massacre sylvanas AND varimathras at once in one heart punding 20mintue fight.... pro guidls in MC gear :D (this was the night pvp first came out and everyone was gone) i can remember if it was spirestone or kargath...o wells

Kommentar von Thottbot

And they could'nt kill Lady Syl?

Must have wet themselves after killing Var and lost their bearings!

Kommentar von Thottbot

They kill both in this Video enjoy :D

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3650071604727766106&q;=undercity

Kommentar von Thottbot

56,91 Undercity.

Royal Quarter (slightly winding hall)

Fr0

Kommentar von Thottbot

he is in the Royal Quater of Undercity.
he has nice quest go get them you will
love what you get and all the XP you get.
i think you have to be lvl 32 or 33 for
the quest. but go have a look if you can
get them. you will LOVE! the quest and what
you get and good xp. go to 56,91

from fightback

Kommentar von Thottbot

Ok, with these videos (despite the annoying music, overediting, poor resolution, and lack of narration), it is now beyond dispute that Varimathras and Windrunner have been downed. So my questions are:

1. How difficult is the fight, in terms of both stats and strategy?

2. What level of gear and raid size is necessary?

3. How much honor do you get? (post-2.01)

4. Is it correct that when you kill a boss, a message announces, "HK: Leader"?

5. Are there any other consequences?

Anyone have any answers?

Kommentar von Thottbot

1. How difficult is the fight, in terms of both stats and strategy?

2. What level of gear and raid size is necessary?

3. How much honor do you get? (post-2.01)

4. Is it correct that when you kill a boss, a message announces, "HK: Leader"?

5. Are there any other consequences?

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1. The fight isn't very hard. The world leaders are easier then most MC Bosses. The world leaders have between 500k health to 700k health. They hit for around 1.5k - 2k. The real challenge is that you'll probubly have Alliance trying to gank your healers or just zerg your main tank. For our raid we had 5 people (Ranged: Hunter, Mage, Mage, Warlock, Shaman) who were healers / ranged dps so they could continue dpsing the boss as the alliance came towards us.

2. A simple 40 man of the right classes in blue gear and some MC gear can take down a world leader. I 16 manned Tyrande and Fandral Staghelm with my guild (tier 2 - 2.5 gear) so if you have the right strat you can down them easy.

3. I think you get like 50k honor split for the # of people in your raid.

4. When the world leader dies instead of saying Honor Kill (15 honor) it says HK: Leader.

5. Killing a world leader will probubly piss off the alliance. I remember when we killed Darnassus an alliance raid formed to kill Thrall. Unfortunatly, raiding Orgrimmar at around 7:00 - 8:00 isn't your best opprotunity. They got zerged.

Kommentar von Thottbot

he has been beet it was a warlock with doomguard glitch it fought for him as a pet even when he brock enslavement so he could summon two pets he killed all the bosses of the horade if you wat to see go to www.youtube.com and serch doomguard glitch

Kommentar von Thottbot

a good 40 warlocks could take him down with a demonic army fear and fel hunters spell lock to stop him when he trys to heal and devower magic for shild

Kommentar von Thottbot

a Biography of varimathras and why he joined Sylvanas

Kommentar von Thottbot

If your trying to find him the entrance to the area he is in is at 52,64.

Kommentar von Thottbot

For the fact that Varimathras is powerfuler then Sylvannas...There can be only one thing!

Sylvannas is PVE specced
Varimathras is PVP specced

That is the only logical explanation for her beating him in WC3!

Kommentar von Thottbot

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH WHY IS HE PURPLE! HIS ACTUALL COLOR IS SUPPOSED TO BE RED AHHHHHH! lol.

Detherok=Green,Poison

Varimathras=red,Fire

Balnazar=Purple,Darkness/Shadow

Kommentar von Thottbot

Has around 900k HP, Aoe Shadowbolts and Sleep. City boss with the most HP, Sylvanas and this guy are the hardest horde duo to kill

Kommentar von Thottbot

good thing they can be pulled seperately then.

and just so u no vol'jin and thrall are the hardest duo to kill. vol'jin hexes everyone, while thrall nails everyone. gr8 time .

Kommentar von Thottbot

Even If you can pull them seperatly, does not mean you will be able to kill them
O.o !

Kommentar von Thottbot

hes not that big but hes a lvl500 boss no lie look here http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/mob.html?wmob=2425

Kommentar von Thottbot

Over 60 Alliance just raided UC and got him to only 76% XD.

Kommentar von Thottbot

http://youtube.com/watch?v=1ocGei3Qvas

Kommentar von Allakhazam

i've always wondered what the leaders of cities would drop, i'm thinking that some time a bunch of level 60s would form a raid group and try to conquer these cities. my only question is why make boss mobs so high?

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Varimathras is a level 100 elite, same level as onyxia. Have fun!

Kommentar von Allakhazam

What is REALLY funny is that when I was on my rogue(Alliance), I stealthed through all of the guards at level 64, went straight to the circle the bosses are on, and for the hell of it shadowstepped Sylvanis and ambushed her and did all the crap I can do in 3 seconds. She hit me for 2000's, I was living through all her hits(I=rogue=leather=level 64=green armor=nubbish). Then when the dreadlord dude came and attacked me he one hit me for a 12K non crit and pwned me.

BTW, the guards take about 5 seconds to go up to me cause of the whole entire, heeeeey...........I think our boss is under attack...........Let's go attack him.........(By the time they start moving I'm dead by the dreadlord.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I never saw "uncle varry" with a pink sword, like on this pic above. Guess it´s a fake.

Usually he stands near Lady Sylvanas without any kinds of weapons...

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I just poo'd myself

Kommentar von Allakhazam

afaik the leaders dont drop any loot, because they are PvP enabled (afaik). they give $%^&loads of CP though.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Killed it many times, all on my own ! :D

Quite difficult though :P

Kommentar von Allakhazam

uber cool

Kommentar von Allakhazam

he's not supposed to have a sword right? he attacks with his claws (and an orb around it) i thought

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Any got sats on The Dark Lady? We should get 2-3 whole raids and storm UC. It's not as laggy as IF

Kommentar von Allakhazam

you kno, Slurm comes from the ass of a giant slug monster, dont drink that stuff, plus, i think thats what that weird jizz in the UC canals is

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Why in the hell would someone photoshop in a pink sword?

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Completed "The Power to Destroy" quest with this guy but it was a shared quest in a ragefire group. I know where he is exactly but there is a wall where the tunnel to his room should be. Do I have to do some special quest or is there some hidden trigger to get at him? Thanks in advance for your help.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

To find this mob go to the 52.6; 63.6 Undercity (this is in the apothecarium area)
This is the start of the path down into the royal quarters.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Varimathras is located at 56,92 in UC.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Gotta love his new look with the sideburns. Looks like a demonic elvis impersonator. I cracked up first time I saw him after the 3x patch.

Varimathras

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