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Kommentar von Elosha

Mit den Stats stimmt etwas nicht, fürchte ich: Der Stab hat kein Int. Wahrscheinlich rührt das daher, dass dies eine größere Version des Stabes von letztem Jahr ist, mit iLvl 232. Jedoch hat Blizz mit Prepatch 4.0 auf allen Caster-/Heilerwaffen die Intelligenz in Zaubermacht umgewandelt. Das ging damals gut, weil WotLK sowieso vorbei war und 4.0 die Spielmechanik von Cata nutzte. Aber für die heutige Zeit sind es die falschen Stats, da die für Cata ausbalancierten Waffen wieder Int und ZM gleichzeitig besitzen.

Kommentar von Elosha

Ich habe einen PvP-Twink (Hexe), mit der ich mir neulich eine PvE-Skillung und etwas passendes Equip zugelegt habe. Und ich dachte, dass die Frostsichel da absolut gelegen kommt :)

Leider ließ mein Schaden immer sehr zu wünschen übrig. Eine Freundin empfahl mir dann, es doch mal mit meiner Arenawaffe (359er) zu probieren. Es stellte sich heraus, dass mein Damageoutput sofort um 3000 dps stieg!

Diese Sichel mag zuwar nicht als BiS gedacht sein (das ist die offizielle Begründung für die kuriosen Werte – aber ich bleibe bei meiner Theorie oben!), doch in der Praxis ist sie weniger als das. 359er Arenawaffen gibt es mittlerweile spottbillig für Ehrenpunkte. Auch wenn ein Stat für Abhärtung flöten geht, leisten sie viel mehr!

Wäre es keine Sichel, würde sie wohl Niemand behalten! ;)

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Kommentar von 802245

Will sell a soul to win this thing this year. Not MY soul of course, but still.

Kommentar von Jaxor

Just consider this a temporary loan- I will be getting it back of course.(##RESPBREAK##)8##DELIM##sas148##DELIM##

Kommentar von butcher098

still one of the coolest looking weapons in the game.

I'm very happy they're scaling it back up with level once more :)

Kommentar von 177291

I will actually win and equip this for my bear tank this year. What do you mean its a caster weapon?

Can you reforge spellpower?

Kommentar von Elosha

I think I figured it out: It has directly been upscaled from the iLvl 232 version; but Blizz seems to have forgotten that they did remove intellect from all caster/heal weapons in prepatch 4.0 and "reforged" it into spellpower for balance reasons. (It was no problem since WotLK was practically over and 4.0 delivered game mechanics of Cata.) Cata-designed staves however have intellect AND spellpower stats again. But this is an upscaled interim solution, an compromise which once worked at iLvl 2xx with prepatch :(

Edit: Find it amusing how they actually did not fix the bug and now call it intentional feature instead.

Kommentar von Egrimm

It looks absolutely amazing, but as of writing (4.2PTR) this staff is terribly itemized. Compared to the other 353 caster staff, Vermächtnis von Arlokk:

Equipping this over Legacy of Arlokk will make the following stat changes:

-323 intellect
-215 mastery
-8 haste

+207 critical strike rating
+216 stamina

Seeing as intellect is the strongest stat for most DPS casters, or at least better than stamina, you'd be much better using Arlokk, or even possibly a 346 staff for that matter. It really is a waste of such an amazing model...

Seeing (as of current writing), the only other drops from Ahune at 85 are 353 cloaks, and considering the new 4.2 Thrall questline gives you a free 365 cloak, there really isn't any desirable loot from the boss, unless you just want to look amazing or get a cloak for your off-spec, the staff might be viable for PvP though.

Kommentar von Kazlehoff

for balance druids (and im guessing most other casters) this item ranks below the blue staves out of the old heroics.

imo blizzard needs to add int to this or its going to be nothing but a RP weapom. or equipped only for the looks and on use effect.

Kommentar von 56951

This beauty can be obtained from Satchel of Chilled Goods, a reward you can get once a day for defeating Lord Ahune after you queued for the battle via the dungeon finder. The chance of looting one from the Satchel is high enough to assume you're likely to loot more than one during the festival, provided you queue for Ahune battle every day.

However, this item is unique, so you won't be able to loot it from the Satchel if you already own one. A good solution is to sell the one you already have to a vendor for sweet 41g 92s and loot another one from the Satchel. For that reason I'd not recommend putting an enchant on the first one you get.

EDIT: Loot chance assumption corrected

Kommentar von duskmay

It even vendors less than other 353 staves.

Now THAT'S dedication!

Kommentar von Reverendball

am i the only one who thinks its weird than this thing has 122 MORE STAMINA than the 372 Vicious Staff?

its 11 more stam than the 391 Runestaff Of Nordrassil (the last epic version before Dragonwrath)

i know its severely lacking in INT, but still, this things a bit hectic for alts

Kommentar von ZeroEdgeir

Though the stats aren't beautiful for any class, this staff is quite powerful for even a feral druid tank for how incredibly easy it will be to acquire.

it's an amazing staff if you pug and your server asks how much hp you have to get invited into raids >.>

Cept your DPS (and thereby threat gen) will be abyssmal, cause all caster staves do about half the DPS of a real intentional weapon. Plus, no Agility (dodge), no Mastery (way too important).

Any feral using this JUST for the health, should not be doing anything raid-oriented... he should be doing his Tol Barad dailies for the polearm there, farming Lost City for the one on the first boss, or getting the old 346 blue, or new 365 epic (once a BS has the pattern from the dailies in 4.2), before using THIS.

Kommentar von 804833

This could come in handy if there's ever a Cata encounter where a caster tank is needed, such as Leotheras the Blind during BC.

Kommentar von 175471

You guys are totally forgetting that this staff is supposed to LOOK good, not be good

Kommentar von Aislinge

I just received this on my lock and can say three things:

a) It looks awesome and the effect is a bonus :)

b) if you've been having a rough time getting upgrades in heroics, this one will suit nicely. If you're like me on an alt and suffering horrendous RNG for drops and don't have the ilvl for Zandalari heroics, this may well be a saviour, as it was for me (got me to 346 ilvl, so all good for raids and Zandalari's). Even with the lack of intellect, the spellpower increase makes up for it (depending on what you're upgrading from).

But, in all seriousness, DO NOT take the word of people in a comments section on whether it benefits you - only you know if it's an upgrade, make your own judgement. There is a grossly large assumption that people who may be interested in this item can successfully run ZA/ZG. Whilst it is a 353 ilvl, I would see this as a stepping stone to get into ZA/ZG or even to Magmaw, to gain a more beneficially spec'd weapon.

c) if you put POWER TORRENT on this, it will not show. The enchant will be present but you will not see the 'changing colour, swirling effect'.

If you're hunting this one, good luck!

Kommentar von 687131

It doesn't have quite as much Spell Power as 346 spell blades/staves (when you combine the int with the spell power) but it has a lot more secondary stats, I'll have to take a look at some simcrafting but due to the secondary stats it might be better than 346s, though I doubt it'll be on par with other 353 spell blades/staves.

Kommentar von 525009

This is perfect for all the mage-tanking i do in five mans.

Kommentar von 643018

It'd be a good idea for blizz to make this a "temporary enchant", turning your 2h (or main hand) weapon to look like this with snow active. This weapon has a model too awesome to be scrapped and stats too awful to keep, making it a looks weapon. Might as well remove the "weapon" part in that description.

Kommentar von Rozencrantz

So there's no way to get this before level 85, right? I could really buckle down and grind to 85 for it but I don't want to have to do that if it's still somehow available at 70 or 80.

Kommentar von Kazlehoff

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/2712011229?page=2#28

at the above link, a blue states the following:

Making it ideal (stat-wise) now and it would stomp all over ZA/ZG weapons. It's fairly trivial to obtain so we're just not really willing to do that.

The solution we're considering would be to make it a 346 blue, but there are some designer-y issues and side effects of what a change like that would cause. Either way I don't think we would be keeping it purple and giving it Int or otherwise making the stats more ideal.

But anyway, those cloaks are pretty sweet, huh?

in other words: if you get this in your satchel: grats on a useless item thats WORSE than the 333's out of reg dungeons.

Kommentar von Durruti

Would be nice if it was made BOA. Got it on my warrior, wouldn't even have a use for it if he were a caster because I'm in raiding gear...but it would be nice to be able to use on an alt. Oh well, still looks awesome equipped w/ Kalytha's Haunted Locket

Edit: rofl, didn't even notice it had no int til I got here. NM, vanity item only.

Kommentar von 693838

Lol I got it on my second visit there ever. I almost vendored thinking it's probably very common and suckish. But I decided to keep it because it looks badass. Anyone know any good items that could match with it and make some sort of a set? Like, a frozen hood? Or some ice clothes?

Kommentar von orcsmash

Pretty bad for PVE due to the lack of int, but I use it for PVP due to the 700 stam, it's 3k more Hp then Vermächtnis von Arlokk

Kommentar von 426611

Most stamina of any item you can get on live. As said before, Bear tank.

Kommentar von suffacate

Blizzard said on the forums that they put no intellect on this staff because it would ruin ZA/ZG weapons.

Isn't that what 4.2 is doing, though? I don't get Blizzard. =/

Quote from Blizzard on the forum:
"Making it ideal (stat-wise) now and it would stomp all over ZA/ZG weapons. It's fairly trivial to obtain so we're just not really willing to do that.

The solution we're considering would be to make it a 346 blue, but there are some designer-y issues and side effects of what a change like that would cause. Either way I don't think we would be keeping it purple and giving it Int or otherwise making the stats more ideal.

But anyway, those cloaks are pretty sweet, huh?"

Kommentar von 460981

That'ssss some nice stamina you got there....

It's just awesome.

Kommentar von 844803

Explain to me why swapping out Gurgthocks grauenhafter Gemetzelkolben plus Zulianischer Wirbelschild with this staff nets me a loss of almost 900 Spell Power? Correct me if I am wrong but there is something wrong with this staff.

Kommentar von blamlock

To mess up the itemization, or make some kind of error on an item is one thing.

But to do it so on a high-profile item during a holiday event, and then hand it out to thousands of WoW players feels like being handed a permanent little memento of Blizzard's current attitude towards the WoW community.

The blue poster's attempt at rationalization was poor. It also gives the impression that half-an-hour's planning went into the loot for the event.

If it was shiny and had no stats at all then I could perhaps buy into the "nostalgic" argument. If it was this I'd keep it in the bank for fun. But if it drops for me I will be sharding this memento of laziness.

Not good enough, Blizz.

Kommentar von Solivarus

What's intellect?

Kommentar von TylerGamer84

Is the 80 version unique with the 85 version? If so will it simply show up in a bag and I just can't loot until I get rid of the 80 version or would I have to vendor my 80 version to even have a chance at seeing it? I only want it for looks, but I'd like to have the 85 version just for the heck of it. However, I'm not gonna vendor what I have just to have a slim shot at it.

Kommentar von michael4231

I really want to try get this staff. Ive tried 3 times already and got burning blossoms. Ive only recently been able to queue and have maybe 5 more attempts to get it. Ill be very lucky if i do with the 9% drop chance.

Kommentar von kinigit

You can get it at level 84. Level 84 is when the boss unlocks for players.

I have no idea why blizzard decided to gimp this staff though. The blue response is rubbish. It implies they carefully considered the itemization and gimped it intentionally. There is no way they put that much thought into intentionally making a terrible staff. I think they just directly scaled it, including the stamina with no thought or regard for the current mechanics or game balance.

That being said, if you get it at level 84 and wear it as soon as you get to 85 then it may serve two purposes:

1. Increase your item level so you can get into heroics quicker.
2. It may be slightly better or similar DPS than the level 325-333 staff you likely have from questing/reg instance grinding.

Otherwise it is a useless item. Unless you just want to look cool standing next to the mailbox (and next to the other mages standing around the mailbox looking cool with this staff)

Kommentar von skeeng

after like a week of doing this dungeon everyday i finally got this. Going to use it on my Restoration Shaman spec... which is just my alt talent spec.

Kommentar von 710654

Anyone complaining about how bad this staff sucks is just jealous of the lucky few who win it. If you are a caster and miss the intellect just enchant the bad boy. Fact is this is a gorgeous blade with an awesome affect. Won it yesterday on my first trip into the event, pure dumb luck. I never win anything.

Kommentar von 453535

because this item is a staff doesn't that mean this very cool looking weapon cant be used by paladins?

Kommentar von TheBaron87

Yes, the stats suck. Who cares?

Ahune is easy and it looks awesome. I want it just to wear it around Orgrimmar.

Kommentar von butcher098

So if im correct, the staff only drops from the satchel which you can only try for once a day?

Kommentar von Paniaka

I ended up getting this staff twice. No ice chip, though. o.0

Kommentar von 848315

it has spell power.
not a hunter item.

Kommentar von Engerz

I was, lucky? to get one on the bags after doing the daily kill on my hunter. Good thing I hanged on to it, will definitely be using it to transmogrify my staves with it.

Kommentar von MackDW

Any one know the name of another scythe looking item(s) in this game? I've seen it once or twice before, the blade is green and the staff is purplish.

Thanks for any help.

Kommentar von Naojirou

Facts about this staff:

-One of the best weapons that can be used for transmog.
-It does not show the enchant visuals on it, probably because of the pouring snow-ice-whatever thingy on the staff itself is implemented to override-act like enchant effects.
-When used for transmog, unlike all the other items that can have a particular enchant effect even tho it cannot be enchanted that way, this one does not get the enchant effect via transmog. (Power Torrent on an iLevel 70 weapon)
-The use effect wears off when the staff is unequipped.
-Annoys people when the blade gets in the ground.

Kommentar von 699472

As a side note for transmoging. Visual enchanting effects such as the red and purple fire from Waffe - Machtstrom do not show up if you want to use the scythe in your transmoging set.
Very glad to not see red and purple fire on my frost scythe.

Kommentar von Jaycoop

Just a speculation, but if it dropped last 3 years we can expect it to drop this year as well. I believe that item level of this year's Frostscythe will be either 384 or somewhere between 378 and 384. Majority of players already have better weapon so most of us will use it for transmogrification purposes.

Kommentar von 1001702

Even though wowhead lists this as no longer available, you can still loot it. Won it today out of the bag.

Stats still suck.

Kommentar von TarrynItUp

I can confirm today 21st of June 2012 that this item can still be looted. A member of my random group party for the midsummer festival dungeon just looted it from a Satchel of Chilled Goods. ~ Good luck people, I sure hope I find it :)

Server: Saurfang
Time: 7:30 (server time)
Source: Cache bag

Tarryn~

Kommentar von Sharkon

Despite the note at the top of the page, this weapon does still drop in 4.3. I just acquired one myself on my warrior, which is only four letters off from the class I wanted to acquire it on....

Kommentar von 156604

Still 353 as of 4.3 making this a very poor choice for anyone with access to HoT. Good for transmog, though.

Kommentar von kothar

It seems wowhead has inaccurate data. I looted this on not one but two characters this morning. It has the same stats and on use effect.

The on use effect lasts 1 minute, gives you a snow aura, and has a CD of 1 minute. You only get one chance a day per character as it drops from Beutel mit gekühlten Waren which you only get from your first kill on each character. It does not show enchants due to its own aura showing.

It makes an amazing transmog item for casters and hunters that have a staff. A good alternitive for warlocks though is Stab der gerechtfertigten Sünden (alliance)/Stab des linken Pfades (horde) rewards from the level 20 warlock quest in shadowfang keep. For hunters who use polearms there are greens that drop however the drop rates are extremely low.

Edit: Hunters and other polearm users can use Ernter des Hexenjägers and Elementiumstangenaxt both from cata blacksmithing.

Kommentar von 783867

It is still available as I got it in my satchel today from The Frost lord Ahune dungeon.

Kommentar von Heiiwa

This item is no longer available within the game.
Actually its not true I just dropped it from the bag

Kommentar von Dayis

They really need to make these holiday xmog items BoA.

Got this 1st attempt on my warrior, not once, but on BOTH of my warriors(A + H). Warlock, Druid and Shaman have never seen it. *Shakes fist* KHANNNNNNN!

Kommentar von Pytheas

Had it on my Pally for a while but took up bank space and got tired of the ooooh aahhh's from looking at it in the dressing room. LOL

Have it on my hunter and use it as a taming tool for the stam and haste but as he is 85 and has all but one desired pet until MoP it sits in the bank.

Trying for it on the Shammy and Druid this year which means the DK will get it.

Good Luck to all

Kommentar von cyberguy1976

Wowhead data wrong says no longer available with in game but just looted off event boss 6-23-2012

Kommentar von booodka

idk if wowhead doesnt know, or if they brought it back, but i was in an instance where the tank just won this staff n the pet so its still in there

Kommentar von 795337

I came here to check on just how rare this thing is as I was lucky enough to get it for my hunter last night. I'm glad that it's still available for sure, it looks great with my transmorg set and even better when I need to cut down some Allies that get to close ;)

Kommentar von 802955

"Unique-equipped" Oh, I was just about to equip two staves :(

Kommentar von Gashti

I got it in my first bag for 4 days ago :D!

Kommentar von grooovy

Wowhead says: "This item is no longer available within the game."

I received this from Satchel of Chilled Goods last week (first day of Midsummer Festival)

Either it was a game bug or Blizzard decided to bring it back.

(screenshot uploaded)

Kommentar von detholsy

some days ago got it, didnt know it was so rare XD

Kommentar von 1003851

This dropped two times this year for me. o.o

Kommentar von Schteeve

Sorry to rub it in, but i get extremely lucky and got this and the rare pet, in one bag on my first try of the event. Im sure the chances of that was VERY slim, but goodluck all, its a great transmog piece

Kommentar von 1011890

Tried every single day in the satchel, didn't get it...
UNTIL the very last day i sadly tried for it, and to my amazement there it sat in the satchel :D

Kommentar von Fantasticphilman

Man, I tried for this thing every single day of the Midsummer Event. Nothing but damn Burning Blossoms, and those buy me nothing that I want. It really sucks that you have to get really, really lucky once per year to get this damn thing... I wish Blizz would get away from pure RNG stuff like this. It's why I gave up on Archaeology.

Kommentar von 1013105

This weapon is obtained by the satchel you receive from the daily Lord Ahune dungeon, not from the boss itself. Also a mog I like with it is http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/darkmoon-faire/karnaz/advanced

Kommentar von Kamille

What is wow-head thinking? This item is still in game....

Kommentar von Kudrix

best looking staff for caster transmog by my opinion,in combination with Silver-thread Regalia it looks just awesome. cheers

Kommentar von MABGamer6407

Goes well with my Rift Stalker Armor set. An any frost mage Will Go well perfectly with This item. An If you like a icey style Thats even better. Oddly this looks more like a Polearm but it is over all awesome. I was luckily it dropped an could not wait to get a Up grade an at last my Thornwood Staff dropped. An now I look Great.

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Fürst Ahunes Frostsichel

Gegenstandsstufe 353
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Zweihändig	Stab

1,508 - 2,263 Schaden	Tempo 3.20

(589.22 Schaden pro Sekunde)
+700 Ausdauer
Haltbarkeit 120 / 120

Benötigt Stufe 85
Anlegen: Erhöht die kritische Trefferwertung um 207.
Anlegen: Erhöht die Tempowertung um 207.
Anlegen: Erhöht die Zaubermacht um 1.849.
Benutzen: Lasst die Kälte der Frostsichel durch Euch hindurchfließen. (1 Min Abklingzeit)
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