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Kommentar von 438874

May be a an incredible trinket for druids if it can proc off of Wild Growth, No word right now on what the internal cooldown is on this if it even has one but assuming its likely a 45 second cool down it could still be a nice and very impressive raid healers trinket. Plus the 179 Sp on it is nothing to sneeze at!

Edit: Echoes of Light https://www.wowhead.com/cata/spell=71610 The spell that procs has a very impressive 30% Proc chance making this a definite must have for any druid healers out there lucky enough to see it drop.

Kommentar von Herecius

Seeing as it looks like a jagged piece of rock, I'm having trouble understanding how Althor did math with it.

Kommentar von karlusdavius

depending if this can crit, discipline priests would see nice gains

Kommentar von omar

Let the Dragon ride again on the winds of time.

Kommentar von 262083

I wonder if this would proc off the massive self-healing known as Affliction Locks. If this had come out Pre-Fel Synergy-nerf it'd be fantastic for tanking Demo locks

Kommentar von 84399

My guess is this will function much like Ancestral Awakening, and heal a nearby low health raid member

Kommentar von 233332

My guess is this will function much like Ancestral Awakening, and heal a nearby low health raid member

Correct. It is a smart heal with a relatively high proc chance (~30%) and a 45-second ICD. Note that these numbers are still subject to change.

It is confirmed on the PTR to proc from HOT ticks as well as direct heals. Fantastic trinket for any healer, but resto druids are likely to see the most procs from it.

Kommentar von 24587

Effects like these always have an ICD. Yes each time you cast a spell there's a chance it'll proc.. However it can't proc if it's on CD. Just like all the weapons with "chance on hit" -- by your logic it would be "Chance on every hit" which is incorrect

Kommentar von 382589

Just got this trinket today. As a resto druid, the proc does about 6% of my total healing done on average. Not bad!

Kommentar von 495397

So, just curious if this would work with Vampiric Embrace, saying that it doesn't say "direct healing spells", or is "heals a target" effectively the same thing?

Kommentar von thedooft

I got it on live, tested on saurfang 25 :
- 45 sec internal cooldown
- Slightly affected by spellpower (or purification perhaps)
- It can crit

... 67.4 % overhealing

Kommentar von Falcon213

I got an 11k crit heal from this trinket today, not sure what exactly can modify it.

Kommentar von 279490

i got this last night. The trinket does proc a lot .. and i think every other proc was a crit heal of 10k+ ive already seen a 14k heal from it. I would have to test it in a raid and see where it goes from there.

Kommentar von 207044

People can say we overheal enough as it is but if it is a somewhat smart heal and jumps to lowest target it then heck yeah. It would be very handy if it was kinda like a second ancestral awakening

Kommentar von SkylinKJ

Any disc priests been able to test this trinket to see if it can produce DA from the trinket proc critting?

Kommentar von Zequrion

Seems that proc can hit a target in around 35-ish yard range of the healed target, i have tested it but i cant seem to get a heal from it when i am on max range with my heals (40 yard) with only me and my healingtarget in the group, but just a few steps forward and i can get the proc on myself.

Kommentar von 498005

OK, I got this trinket tonight Althor's Abacus and proceeded to test it out. I used it on the Deathbringer Saurfang fight and here are the recount numbers etc. (as a holy priest healing the raid):

* 49 procs equaled 3.5% of my total healing done.
*Overall over-healing done from this trinket was a mere 2.3% (Gotta love SMART CAST technology!)
* 31 procs were normal hits, 18 were crits (my crit % raid buffed is 33.81% but I'm not sure if the trinket crits according to your personal crit rating or not and my spell power was 3,641)
*Max normal hit was 6,940 with an average of 5,624
* Max crit hit was 10,517 with an average of 7,810

* This trinket like many, resets the internal cooldown (45 seconds) when you equip it (or even move it from one trinket slot to the other)
* This trinket can proc on the target you are healing including the caster (you) (IE: your greater heal healed Maximus for 20K the trinket can proc heal him at the same time even if there are other people near you... as long as they have more health than Maximus even if you are Maximus IE: the caster)
* This trinket will proc off of HOTs (renew in my case) and can crit off of HOTs. Bandaging will also proc it along with Glyph of Power Word: Shield and Blessed Healing (the Priest T10 2pc set bonus, so far a pretty disappointing spell). This trinket will NOT proc Divine Aegis if it crits , nor will it proc off of damage induced healing such as Vampiric Embrace or Devouring Plague.
* The proc is called Echoes of Light and it does get recorded as your healing done in Recount
* This trinket is really awesome for arena! It averaged 7.9% of overall healing done after 10 3v3 arena matches at the 2200 match making level, and the proc has saved my life on at least one occasion so far)

-Xanthock of Kel'Thuzad

Kommentar von 498005

YES it can proc back to the caster.

Kommentar von 498973

I just tested by flash healing myself and hoping I didn't get a crit (to trigger DA from the FH) and then have the trinket proc and crit. Took some time to get it right! :)

Anyway, sadly it didn't proc Divine Aegis.

Kommentar von Jugan

This is most likely an homage to Rand Al'Thor, the main character in Robert Jordans' Wheel of Time epic fantasy series. Robert Jordan passed away fairly recently prior to finishing the series. A very nice way of Blizzard tipping their hat in recognition of Robert Jordans' influence in the Fantasy genre, be it book or games.

p.s. The series is now being finished by Brandon Sanderson, who is doing a very fine job of it.

Kommentar von RajahSummercry

Procced off Seal of Light, and judgement of light (hitting the mob with the judgement on it).

Kommentar von 359510

Anyone know if this will proc off Fel Armor? I know this is generally a healer trink, but this could be very useful to a warlock in arena situations...

Kommentar von UAEmirates

every thing is cool about this trinket but what I don't like about it's proc when it's heal pets and DK army & Bloodworms.

Kommentar von 501516

Absolutely love this trinket. I got it a few days ago and use it along with Sliver of Pure Ice.
Amazing for Resto Druids. Wasn't paying attention to the healing on Saurfang but this thing procs 10-11k for me without buffs.

Kommentar von 161701

As a destro warlock, I used this trinket for Deathbringer Saurfang over a 5min something fight this trinket procced for me 6 times.
Doing 36k odd healing, 2 crits the max being 9.3k and the average norm was 5.9k.
Honestly couldnt tell you what spell proced the heal (soul leech, fel armor or fel synergy).

Kommentar von Posh

I just got this last night for my holy priest. I figured since I'm mostly assigned to raid healing due to Prayer o Healing, and Prayer of Mending and Circle of healing, and improved renew it would proc quite nicely. However I have one question that has not been addressed by anyone here.

Is the proc a "Range" proc or a "source" proc

I.E. does the heal "Proc" from the healer that cast it, or the target that it "procs" off of?

Kommentar von 467169

Anyone know if it procs off vampiric embrace?

Kommentar von 376488

I tested it earlier to see if it would and it does not seem to proc off of VE.

Kommentar von 512578

hmm.... can this trinket proc from warlocks spells wich heals warlock or pet ? i mean like if you got fel synergy talent and your shadow bolt heals your pet.

Kommentar von 515749

Got this trinket last night, on my priest.
Today, in a heroic, i was bandaging someone, for fun, and the trinket procced.

Kommentar von 136677

Interesting thing for Shaman is when i cast ghost wolf i get a 33% chance to proc the item everytime i regen health as a wolf (not using the glyph that regens extra health).

This makes the trinket very powerful in pvp for shamans as usually shifting to GW is due to being put under pressure so the 7k heal (10k crit heals) can come in very handy in those moments. Especially if you are runnning double dps and large heals are rare to pull off.

Kommentar von 516447

I dare to claim that it would be a good warlock trinket for raiding as well. I consider it to be one of the top 5 highest DPS trinkets in the game that isn't overloaded with +hit (which is important to to me since it seems like the rest of my gear is).

And as long as it is proccing, it really doesn't make a difference whether it's in the hands of a healer in your raid or a warlock in your raid- the ultimate healing effect will be about the same... unless you have a raid healer that does absolutely nothing until there's a raid-wide AoE, in which case the odds of the trinket overhealing are slightly reduced, but that's a pretty ridiculous scenario. Moreover, giving it to the warlock allows the healer that would have used it for the additional healing effect to instead use a trinket with regen.

Kommentar von iLikeTurtelz

Yo, Althor's Abacus, Imma let you finish, but Solace of the Fallen is BiS for healer of all time. All time.

Kommentar von yautjalv426

hmmm i am looking at this and i wonder if i used mend pet and nobody was nearby would i get the heal? yep this is hunter loot for sure. haha!

Kommentar von 519598

Some things I've noticed while healing with and testing this trinket:

The casting animation for Echoes of Light is like a Priest's Circle of Healing.

If soloing, Echoes of Light will heal the caster if nobody else is in party and within range. It will overheal if your health is near or at full.

It will proc with effective heals. As a Priest, that includes Renew, Prayer of Healing, Circle of Healing, Holy Nova, Penance, Flash Heal, Greater Heal, Binding Heal, Divine Hymn.

Casting unglyphed Power Word: Shield, for example, won't proc it, and Mending won't until the target takes damage and Mend itself procs. If you do have Glyph of Power Word: Shield, however, this trinket can proc when casting Shield.

The Priest T10 2 set bonus (Blessed Healing) HoT will also cause Echoes of Light to proc.

And it will proc while mounted, without dismounting the healer.

Kommentar von eternalwhitemoon

This is a very interesting straight-throughput trinket. For a holy paladin, it appears to proc off the following:
Judgement of Light
Sacred Shield HoT
Beacon heals (there's a small delay between original heal and Beacon heal, so if you watch carefully you can confirm that it's from the Beacon heal and not the original heal)
possibly Holy Light glyph, but hard to distinguish if the proc is from the HL itself or the glyph heal
...and of course, our three main heals, Small, Medium and Large (that's to say Flash of Light, Holy Shock, Holy Light).

You'd think it'd be a waste as overhealing, and might prefer a regen trinket, but if you're set on MP5 look at it this way. This thing can crit for over 10K. That's a free crit Holy Shock/instant crit Flash of Light. It procs fairly often. And it often goes to a member low on health, so it's smart. In a way, the free heals save mana while the spellpower contributes to your throughput.

With the MP5 loaded gear in ICC, I think of this as a very smart throughput trinket choice.

Kommentar von 39909

Yo dawg, I herd you like healin' so we put a heal in yo trink so you can heal while you heal.

Kommentar von 323717

As a Discipline priest usually 50% on raid 50% on tank, this is really helpful as it will proc off of the glyphed PW:S heal.
It can proc off of all hots, and I see crits at 9.7k usually. It IS affected by the 3% + healing bonus Grace which stacks to 9%, and I see crits over 10k due to it.

It's an amazing trinket for pure thoroughput and if you're not in pain for mana or regen, definitely one to (try!) and get your hands on.

As said before, it does not proc Divine Aegis, and does not proc off of dps induced heals. It's a smart heal, and does have about 30% overhealing for me for my recorded information.

It's all n all, very nice, it heals about as much as a crit flash (when it does not crit) or a reg G-Heal when it crits. For the newer content, a smart heal like this can make the difference.

Kommentar von 535074

Got this today. Equiped and checked on few bosses.Echoes of Light made about 2% of my healing(resto druid). Looks like can crit, average hit 6k. It do decent amount of overhealing, depends on fight ofc. Disappointed overall. Will stick with Illustration of Dragon Soul i think.

Kommentar von LarryBiscuit

Well, since no one asked, anyone know if it procs off of Beacon heals? I'd assume so, since it is considered a "heal" and it doesn't specify with what types of heals. If it does, this would be amazing to heal the melee with, considering melee take a lot of incidental damage.

Kommentar von Daydream7

Maybe interesting: If you have Blessing of Ancient Kings up, the people which get healed by the trinket won't get Protection of Ancient Kings.

Kommentar von 450409

Some retarded priest that won it traded it with some retarded elemental shaman for a diff item and now the very much retarded ELEMENTAL shaman is using this healing trinket for elemental..seriously
its all bout stupid gearscore, ''oh look i have this GS now i can join raid even tho i dont know i dont have a %^&*ing brain cos i dont know the difference between the meaning HEALING SPELLS and DAMAGE SPELLS'' -_-

he actually said,
its an upgrade it has more spellpower..
theres lots of things with more spellpower on it, spellpower isnt even the most important thing around, so why use a healing trinket instead of get a dps one..

Sorry for the swearing, #$%^ed off Meecow.

Kommentar von candckid

Note this also can proc the Flash of Light hot AND Judgment of Light for Holy Pallies. I was the first healer to get this trinket and I love it to death, saved many a person between heals just from JoL procs or the FoL hot on the MT.

Kommentar von 265062

As of patch 3.3.2, I used this as Shadow and it does not proc from VE heals.

Kommentar von 546260

I got this on my Shadow Priest last week. I noticed a few people posting here that is doesn't proc on VE - LIES (either they don't know what to look for, or they are healers trying to discourage DPS heal proc specs from rolling on it). It procs pretty much immediately on any healing effect if it is off ICD (45 seconds). Thus its proc effect is just as viable for that spec as any healer. It also procs for Warlocks that heal off damage (Destro, Aff). Noting the Spellpower is the same as the 264 badge trinket I'd wager this was actually supposed to be the DPS equivalent to Purified Lunar Dust (which has a definate healer proc on it that helps their ability to heal throughout the fight). The fact is the proc on this trinket is really a very minor thing in raid terms - a random heal every 45 seconds. Its like a Battlemasters trinket in that, Arenas it would be fairly good thing to have, in raids there are much better proc effects on other trinkets.

All that said, any healing class or DPS class that procs healing (Spriest, Aff/Dest Lock) may want this for the Spellpower dump that it is. But calling it a healing trinket is is a stretch, almost any other healing trinket has a more effective proc in raid terms.

Kommentar von dreadneck

Can this be proced from the HoT off of Trauma? I mean it is an indirect heal from a spell? I'm guessing not though...

Kommentar von 478665

My healing done % by Atlhor's Abacus from last ICC 25 as Holy Priest:
Marrowgar: 2.8%
Deathwhisper: 2.4%
Saurfang: 4.5% (woot)
Rotface: 4.5% (nice also)
Festergut: 1.3% (even worse than Trauma proc)
Average: 3.1%
It's not a pure awesomeness, nor it isn't bad, + 179 passive SP means it is currently the best holy priest throughput trinket out there right before Illustration of the Dragon Soul and Pandorra's Plea (sad, but true). If you are not running out of mana, get this trinket.

Kommentar von 401990

Does ICD stack with HC version of this?

Kommentar von 535137

Imo.... pvp oriented trinket ^^

Kommentar von majaiku

3% of my heals on Saurfang were from Echoes of Light as a shadow priest!
So it does proc off of Vampiric Embrace, just to confirm once more.

Kommentar von 496649

I admire that you have a unique fantasy world to twist and bend to your liking, however upon reading both the links you provided I had to leave your silly thoughts behind. GC in no way shape or form says its it not after Rand, in fact what he does say actually leaves you to believe it IS named after Rand because he is responding to people talking about the book and its main character Rand al'Thor. someone makes a reference to the fact rand isn't a healer and here is what GC says.

Also, you are not even named in the article that you are claiming names you as the person they named it after.

GG enjoy your lies, maybe a few people bought them.
Last edited by sh4dowd0c 4 days ago (Patch 3.3.2)

Strong words for someone with such poor reading comprehension.
Take a second look, breathe, and pay attention.

From the linked thread:
Post by Delmortis
2. Re: Another Beautiful Trinket Found 11/14/2009 05:45:30 AM PST

I find it amusing it's a healer trinket given who it's named after but I'm happy about it nontheless. :)

Reply from GC:
12. Re: Another Beautiful Trinket Found 11/14/2009 05:08:01 PM PST

Q u o t e:
I find it amusing it's a healer trinket given who it's named after but I'm happy about it nontheless. :)

When you consider Angelista has caster cloth, a tanking ring and an armor pen ring, you're in good company. :)
Ghostcrawler
Lead Systems Designer

Clearly GC is confirming the reference, as well as the fact Delmortis = Althor

Kommentar von 187678

Okay so I just realized that this thing procs off of Lifeblood (The herbalism self-heal). This could potentially make this an amazing PvP trinket for any caster Herbalist.

Kommentar von 364996

I don't think it was mentioned before, but this trinket is awesome on the Valithria Dreamwalker fight because the healing is affected by the healing buff you get from going into the green portals. I had crits as high as 26k while under the healing buff (equipped on my resto shaman). Unfortunately, because I'm spamming Healing Wave on the boss for most of the fight rather than chain heals (having less spells "land") it doesn't proc as much as on some other fights.

Kommentar von Oswald

By far one of the best trinket's available to raid healers. I got it last night and was doing a heroic this morning and noticed a few things about this trinket.

First off, the healing range which it claims appears that it may actually go lower than "advertised". I saw it proc once for about 3.5k.
Second, it crits. I noticed a 10k proc from it which landed at a very good time.

Possibly a BiS for raid-healing druids in the ICC tiers, I know I'm not going to be replacing it until I get the heroic version of it.

Kommentar von 326790

So I'm fairly new to formal theorycrafting, please correct me if there's something I mess up, but this is what I figure about this trinket.

The mean average heal on this tinket is perfectly 6000, it is capable of critting for 1.5x the heal putting the mean average crit at 9k. These numbers, as with all level 80 heal procs I have seen, are unaffected by bonus spellpower/healing.

On an average ICC10/25 geared healer (I specifically heal on a shaman) I think 35% crit is a safe number for the purpose of this math. I expect this would be a bit lower for a druid, a bit higher for a Paladin but we can't please everyone.

In a perfect world (something like Blood Queen) where there is no overhealing and you're rolling out heals pretty constantly, proccing this thing every time the ICD is up (every 45 seconds) you could expect 8 procs in a 6 minute fight. 35% (2.8) of them crit.
Amounting to a very averaged total of 56400 healing done over 6 minutes (~156.66_hps)
On a fight like blood queen most of our healers are doing 7-9khps so we'll say 8k, and none of them are using this trinket.
The proc from this trinket would make up about 2% of that healing.

Some people would argue that since it's a "smart" heal it will reach out and save raid members who otherwise might not get a heal in time, instantly healing the people who need it the most and making a cushion for regular healing but this is incorrect because on a raid healer this will proc almost once every 45 seconds due to it's high proc rate, it won't wait for when someone's low or even for there to be anyone to heal, it won't proc necessarily when healing is more difficult, making it's effectiveness as a fallback next to nothing. The scenario when this "smart heal" will "make the difference" is a one in a million cooincidence where the 45sec ICD lines up perfectly with one raid memeber's time of need.

It's a decent proc, and the high spell power makes this an attractive trinket for shaman and druid raid healers especially shamans enjoying their T10 4set but it's not amazing. What saves the day more frequently are activated CDs that a smart healer can sync with the stress of the fight.

Kommentar von Nahin

Has anyone tried this with JoL heals from a holy pala? Same with the heals from Holy light glyph?

Kommentar von lordhakera32

Just got this and managed to test it on Saurfang. (Druid)

I have to say I'm quite happy with it, it averages 3% of my total healing (which was a lot due to -1 healer pug). Here's some random facts. (this was in 1 fight)

Procs: 10
Hit: 6874 Average, 7705 Max, count 7
Crit: 11413 Average, 11700 Max, count 3

And here's some stats for the remainder of the time (this is Saurfang + 2 Valkyr + trash to Valithria including Miniboss)

Procs: 23
Hit: 6090 Average, 7705 Max, count 15
Crit: 8545 Average (my lowest is 2k so I guess it hit someone with a MS or something?) Max 11700, count 8

Kommentar von 588434

Proc's off of shadow priest's devouring plague. Should work with any heal from vampiric embrace also.

Kommentar von 444887

Holy pally, got this today, it can proc off JoL heals, SS fol tick, beacon Heal and I think the HL 10% extra heal glyph thing

I approve of this item

Kommentar von Delvara

Amazingly, this procs off of LoTP (Feral druid)

This totaled 35k on a sample old world fight in healing done, which blew the effectiveness of my previous trinket out of the water.

Because of this, I'd guess it would work off of Frenzied Regeneration.

I haven't tested this with Crusader or other such enchants, though I doubt those would work.

Kommentar von 262373

the question I have is what is better for a Holy priest. I have Solace, Purified Lunar, and just got this the Althor's Abacus.

Which 2 should I use for holy ? and which 2 should I use for Disc ?

Kommentar von 142052

Got this last night and just after it did 4.5% of my effective healing on Fester. I love this trinket.

Bit lower on mana without the Talisman but I don't have any problems with that anymore anyway and the SP proc messes with my Renews anyway.

Kommentar von 142699

Well, i am not really sure how good this trinket really is.

For sure the pure amount of spellpower is defintely useful.

But what about the proc? since it has an internal cd of 45 sec and a good chance to proc you can assume it procs almost every 45 sec. But with the high amount of healing, you have "flying around" in raids right now, it probably just produces overheal for another healer in most cases? i doubt, the proc is a lifesaver in many situations. So i just considder it good for pushing the meters. But thats exactly not, what makes a good healer.

I personally prefere trinkets with some passive mana regeneration stats and would for example rate Purified Lunar Dust higher than this one. Even if you usually dont have any mana issues a solid mana reg is never bad. But i cant imagine many situations, where a smart instant heal every ~45 sec is worth that much.

So what remains for this item is the pure spellpower in my opinion. So the desicion is: pure spellpower vs. maybe a bit less spellpower + an usefull effect (mana reg?)

Kommentar von AveryZan

Is the original person that this is proced from healed as well? or is it limited to only the people around them.

Kommentar von 639503

Today I won heroic althors as a warlock and tested it to find that it does not proc off soul leech haunt fel synergy or fel armor=/ but it does proc off of health funnel. The downside is u cannot get it to proc unless ur pet has taken damage since overhealing doesnt get the job done. Altho its really nice to keep ur pet up in arena.
So the sp is nice but the heal is difficult to use as a lock.

Kommentar von Iyonin

Maybe this is just me, but every time it drops for my Priest, and mind you I'm doing the top heals during the entire raid. It seems the lowest and crappiest healer wins this damn thing. I can never get a break and win it, Blizz must really dislike me :(.

Kommentar von nbteve

Is that proc to druid regrowth spell?

Kommentar von 537709

I don't think that anyone has said it but for holy priests Lightwell HoT can proc this (also, more redundant info: Lightwell HoT can make this proc no matter if the HoT is on your or on someone else (I just created one in Dalaran and it procced when the HoT healed a random person (not in my group/raid) who used it).
So yay, rejoice. Lightwell is useful for something after all. \o

Kommentar von Tsoboken

Just curious if this thing will proc off of Mend Pet...I solo a lot and if my guild is nice enough to let me have it it would be a great addition if so (After everyone who actually needs it gets it).

Kommentar von 518516

I am seeing an abundance of posts about druid healers and how beneficial this trinket is for that class of healers. What I need to point out is that this trinket is an exceptional piece for Druids, Priests, Shaman, or Paladins. The point is this particular piece has helped all of our healing classes not specifically one class only. This being said, enjoy raiding!

Kommentar von zelig24

Yo Dawg i heard you like heals, so i put a heal in your heal, so you can heal while you heal

Kommentar von Koruchan

Is there a reason it erroneously claims that you can buy this trinket from a Flatland Prowler? loooool....

Kommentar von 686294

I'm curious if this procs off of Corruption Heals for Afflic Lock.

Kommentar von Basor

Read so many comments here on wowhead and elsewhere as well. Can someone confirm whether this proc is a smart heal or not (read prefers healing those who need it). Can't seem to get a solid answer.

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