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Kommentar von tonydizzle

Nice looking healer cloak that looks like it will be dropping in one of the new reg Icecrown Citadel 5-mans.

Nice little upgrade to Cloak of Kea Feathers, or a sidegrade, depending on how you look at it. Swapping haste for crit and dropping a few points in int for more stam.

EDIT: I was, in fact, referring to the stats of this cloak when I said "good looking" just as Kopec said. As you figured out you can easy hide it if you don't like the aesthetics. I personally miss this design in a cloak (the split style). Though, they definitely could have made it look a little nicer graphically.

Kommentar von 274087

I was excited that I finally got somewhat of an upgrade via this cloak.

However, my exitement was soon gone when I realized it looks like something my level 20 alts would wear. :(

Kommentar von 498138

Good damn im happy you can hide your cloak:)

Kommentar von Keshicus

This is one of the only cloaks you will find in the new dungeons with an il above 200. Anything else is in raid or vendor which is kinda disappointing since you'll most likely spend your tokens on set pieces, trinkets and rings. Cloaks don't drop in ToC unless you don't wipe. So your best bet for a decent caster cloak would be Ony 10man normal.

Only reason I mention this is I'm a tailor and embroidering a chance to increase spellpower would be a waste on a il213

Kommentar von Omgomgesiuol

Only reason I mention this is I'm a tailor and embroidering a chance to increase spellpower would be a waste on a il213

Unless, y'know, you care about your performance and all.

Kommentar von Keshicus

Unless, y'know, you care about your performance and all.

I do, that's why I went and bought a better cloak. ;)

Kommentar von Keshicus

It blows my mind how you're able to afford a better cloak yet you can't afford to buy a piece of cloth.

Yes because emblems and gold are equal market. Getting 2 eternal life (30g each on my AH) and blowing a mooncloth CD makes it more than "just a piece of cloth." Hence why I saved the embroidery for a more suitable cloak. It's not a dramatic change or damper in performance if you'd save the thread for a later cloak.

For example Fluttering Sapphiron Drape

Don't assume whatever you want, and know what you are talking about before berating someone..

Edit: Downvoted for recommending a better cloak and saving money, this place is great.

Kommentar von EZHK

Eternal life is relatively easy to farm in Wintergrasp--the big flowers present when your faction controls the zone have a 100%+ drop rate on crystallized life (more than one is common). The cooldown, on the other hand, is a cooldown, and so you're talking opportunity cost. Moonshroud goes for about 150-160g on my server. If you're hard up for gold, that's tempting.

Kommentar von 125795

For best Burst damage as Boomkin(easy to obtain):
1.Deathchill Cloak (crafted)
2.Furious Gladiator's Cloak of Dominance (38k honor)
3.Disguise of the Kumiho (25xEmblem of Valor)

Kommentar von 438574

It's red and slightly more low-level appearing than your average Epic cloak.

Kommentar von 104233

Resto druids: While this isn't a downright bad cloak for you, you probably can save that haste enchant until you get Disguise of the Kumiho for 25 badges. The ilevel may be slightly lower, but the stats are a far better fit and it's easier to get to boot.

Kommentar von 360629

Well, my resto shaman, discipline priest, and when she hits 80, my holy pally will all appreciate both +crit and Mana5. Restoration shamans get Ancestral Healing procs from crits, discipline priests get damage absorption bubbles from crits, and holy pallies get mana back.

I'll grant you the Disc Priest, but crit/mp5 is the worst stat combo for both Resto Shammies and Holy Pallies.

Illumination was nerfed so badly that mp5 beats it hands-down. The main problem with crit is that it's not "on" all the time. You stop to re-cast Sacred Shield? The value of crit drops. Judgment? Beacon of Light? Value drops. BoP, BoSac... you get the idea. If you stand in one spot spamming a single spell non-stop, the value is maybe 3/4 as high, but under realistic gameplay, it's less than half as useful as mp5.

The reason items like this one, with two regen stats, are bad for nearly every non-spirit caster is because they're redundant. It's like putting Str on a Rogue item and saying hey, you get two types of attack power this way! Just not true. The Str is half as potent as AP for Rogues, and is wasted item points. Resto Shammies gear for mp5 early on, and then rely on crit for the rest of their regen. Holy Pallies never stop gearing for haste (while gemming/enchanting Int), preferring mp5 as the second stat over crit. So having both means one stat is almost certainly wasted for the majority of people who could wear it.

And there's no throughput stat with this combo. Meaning, no stat that makes you heal for more in the same amount of time. Crit is not a throughput stat. It's an overhealing stat. Say your tank is down 30k HP. Any healer worth their raid spot will have their second heal casting before they have any idea whether the first one crit or not. And even if the first one does crit, it won't fill them to full. A 15k heal that crits is still only 22.5k, so you'd need the second 15k heal anyway, except now half of that is overheal. Now, if you replaced that crit with haste, both of those heals would have cast *faster*, increasing how much healing you're doing.

Haste is the throughput stat. You need timely heals, not crit ones. For Resto Shammies, especially. I wasn't happy with how I healed on mine until I was sitting around *at least* 1k haste. 1.3s HW's after Riptides or Chain Heals, and CH's themselves casting in under 2 seconds. Good stuff.

(I hope I didn't come across as an ass in this comment, as I was just trying to explain.)

Kommentar von 360629

The haste > crit is simply your opinion, and quite frankly perpetuated by people unable to play a game without listening to whatever is popular.

My resto shammy is just fine with sitting around 450 haste. Why dump so many other stats to increase my haste just to drop LHW's cast time by .20 of a second? With my LHW critting and your's not our "throughput" is the same.
So why tell someone an item is useless because it dosent have the stat combo you like? Especially when you can just enchant the cloak with haste and be done with it.

I've been healing on my shammy since vanillia and have never had a problem and am always one of my guild's top healers.

You put out more healing in the same amount of time. That's not an opinion.. that's how haste works. The "popular" bit is a weak argument and you know it. It's a game with certain mechanics. There IS a right and a wrong way to do things to get the best of your char within those mechanics, and haste for Shammies is the right way. Just because you're managing well with low haste doesn't mean you wouldn't be doing even better with high haste.

You're not taking into account what stacking Haste can do for you (after all, 100 SP might only boost a spell by a tiny bit, but 2k SP certainly boosts it by a ton), and you're dismissing haste without giving it a real shot, given that you chose LHW as your example. 1100-1200 haste = my Chain Heals and Healing Waves cast at the same speed as LHW's do for someone with low haste. That's huge! I can bring a raid back up from heavy AOE damage in a fraction of the time it would take someone with only 400-500 (we're talking 4 chain heals by the time the other person has 3 - that's a massive difference). If someone needs a large heal, a crit LHW is inferior to a HW that only takes around 1.5 seconds to cast. If they need a small heal, my LHW's are still very likely to crit.

What stats do you have to dump, anyway? Shammies gear for Haste/crit (and get to keep a certain amount of unavoidable mp5 from sets and so on), and gem mostly for haste. We're talking mostly about gems slots, then. What exactly are you gemming for instead of haste...? Mp5? Certainly not int or crit, I hope.

Kommentar von geektacular

Whether this is statistically better than the Valor emblem cloaks is questionable depending on spec, etc., but this is a nearly direct farmable/non-raid/iLvl upgrade for anyone who is still using Wispcloak, a popular starting cloak for many healers.

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