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Kommentar von 176514

No more spamming hemo and feeling guilty for wasted charges!

Kommentar von 103436

This is nice. I cant wait to try it out soon..

Hemo does 110% wep dmg thus if you have 1400AP (i know low.. but its a even number) and have Merciless Gladiator's Pummeler This yeilds about 370 low dmg and 498 high dmg.
Now add this Glyph and you can increase your damage an additional 40% after you initaily inflict the first hemo hit and you should be looking at 518 low end dmg and 697 high end dmg..
Wich is freaking amazing.. Thank you Blizz..

Cheers,
Exo

Kommentar von critt

Yep, this one also caught my eye. I've had a quick glance at all the current glyphs and this one by far seems quite imbalanced.

Kommentar von 230387

they really need more glyph's, cuz there isnt one for mutilate, shadowstep, and whole bunch of other specc'd abilities

Kommentar von Cr00xY

decription is very humble, does it means that only rogue˙s dmg is increased by 40% or dmg from all sources? if it is from all sources its totally IMBA for raids, better then any other debuff actually.

Kommentar von 163540

Let us calculate what the raid benefits of this glyph would be when all charges are used.
Given an average critrate per melee in raid situation: 30%
Hemorrhage glyphe bonus: 30 per charge

Bonus dmg gained through hemo(w/o glyphe) = (7 x 75)+(3 x 150) = 975
Bonus dmg gained with glphyed hemorrhage = (7 x 105)+(3 x 210) =1365

1365 - 975 = 390 bonus dmg for your raid per hemo application with this glyphe.

Kommentar von 478985

In some ways, I agree with Fadeaway. By itself, Hemorrhage isn't worth speccing into for a raid. The extra 1050 damage that the raid does isn't worth sacrificing your own personal DPS.

The only way Hemorrhage is going to help your raid is if you work it into a PvE spec that can compete in personal DPS with a comparably geared Combat Rogue.

(Coincidentally - in our 25m raid, we're also experimenting with ways of including a Demonology Warlock for a very similar reason: the Demonic Pact raid buff. With a well-geared, raid-buffed Warlock, this buff is superior to the Totem of Wrath raid buff. However, it's very hard for a Demonology Warlock to compete with the other Warlock specs in PvE DPS. You essentially have to determine if the benefits of the raid buff is worth the decrease of the one's DPS.)

In our guild, we're trying to experiment with different ways of implementing Hemorrhage, currently with limited success. First of all, to make use of this tool, your raid will have to be fairly physical-DPS heavily - to make use of the debuff. Ideally, you want each hemorrhage the rouge causes to be consumed ASAP - if possible every GCD. This makes using a Hemorrhage rogue in a 10m raid very impractical.

The second half of using Hemorrhage is finding a way of getting a rogue that specced into hemorrhage a high enough DPS that it can compete on the DPS charts. The best way we've come up with so far is to have our Homorrhage rogue spec deep Subtlety and pick up Honor Among Thieves. This talent allows for 5-pt finishing moves almost every other GCD if the rogue is placed in an optimal party (best to put them in a party with mellee DPS that use abilities every GCD or any class with crittable DoTs or HoTs).

We're still hitting major difficulties with this. As such I would highly suggest that raids DON'T try to use Hemorrhage, unless they're willing to put in some time experimenting. This goes even moreso for rogues out there looking to PUG raids in a deep-Subtlety spec. It's really not viable unless you have the cooperation and support of a guild that's willing to put in the effort to make it work - most raid leaders are gonna pass over you if they find out about your spec.

Kommentar von 350279

How can Hemo be useful in a Raid-Situation? It has 10 charges, which are burnt in less than 2 sec's.

Kommentar von 576129

Tested at level 40. DPS without Glyph of Hemorrhage was around 200. With the glyph my DPS increased by 20. Not bad at all.

Kommentar von Hijou

I noticed something weird, when this glyph is equipped my Hemo's tooltip changed from 13 added physical dmg to 25....and the last rank (when I go went to a rogue trainer to check) seems to add around 145 instead up from 75/105.... is this a mistake on the tooltip or is the glyph more powerfull then intially thought.......or is this just some crazy random happenstance caused by a mix of bugs and addons?

Kommentar von Teelie

Does this glyph stack with Sanguinary vein? Theoretically it should but you never know with Blizzard, perhaps they make an exception because the bleed is from a glyph.

Also, please answer instead of thumbing down.

Kommentar von 115475

It isn't just auto attacks, just tried it before and after spamming ss, and it increases those by 10% also.

Kommentar von 195220

i'm not sure how useful this glyph will be. Considering you should be keeping rupture up as close to 100% as your able to, i dont see the 40% of a fairly low damage attack<when compaired to other moves they could of set it for>. while if the damage stacks like it did for warriors deep wounds bleeds it could be a decent glyph, but im pretty sure theres better choices for a sub spec, glyphs of backstab, evicerate, shadowdance, and possibly rupture <depending on how bad you are at keeping it on the enemy>.

I just think that 40% over 24 seconds sounds really drawn out and would be very low damage exspecialy if it overwrites instead of stacking.

Kommentar von nodfaction

This is a decent pvp glyph for the purpose of keeping other rogues, druids, and mages from slipping back into stealth/invisibility due to the long bleed effect.

Kommentar von lumpymilk

It can crit.

Kommentar von 714426

It does NOT stack with itself to increase damage. It takes the most recent Hemo hit, and then takes a flat % and devides it over 24 seconds, each tick can individually crit, and when from a crit hemo it can be a pretty decent dot... but... it can also tick low if it's a non crit hemo non crit tick obviously.

Kommentar von 240259

Beware, this renders Gouge pretty much useless.

Kommentar von 327335

On ozumat's fight(P3), this WILL do a lot of damage. I don't know if it's a bug or not but i think it will be fixed soon.
Ozumat's normal fight - according to recount:
Me: 4.1m
1) Hemorrhage (DoT) - 1320535 - 31.7%
2) Melee - 1091114 - 26.2%
3) Hemorrhage - 889015 - 21.3%

Its max ticks were 144935 and crits for 255319.

Kommentar von 791596

I don't know if its a bug, but always when my hemmorhage gets fully absorbed, the dot will do 1 damage, and 2 crit damage.

Kommentar von SoooWhoCares

Some infos:
-the dot ticks every 3s for 8 ticks total ( = 24s)
-it does tiny amounts of damage (40% of direct hit divided by the 8 ticks -> 5% of direct hit per tick)
-when Blutsturz crits all ticks will do double damage on normal ticks
-ticks can crit for twice the damage
-When using Blutsturz and getting a crit, then using the skill again while the dot is ticking and getting a non-crit the non-crit dot will overwrite the crit-dot - instead of just renewing the duration.
-The dot damage is calculated with the AP values you had when hitting the target. Not with your current values. Also a weak dot will overwrite a stronger one instead of just renewing the duration.
-The bleeding tick does not stack when Blutsturz is spammed multiple times. Also when you spam the skill multiple times you'll delay the time till the ticks start.
-critical ticks proc Ehre unter Dieben which helps you gaining combo points even when ooc in PVP
-this glyph nicely helps keeping the Venenschnitt damage buff up
-The dot will be applied ~1s after you hit your target with Blutsturz. So the 30% bleed effect damage works for the first dot that is applied, too.
-when starting a fight this can do much more damage with the ticks because of these 2 passives: Schwächen aufspüren & Meister des hinterhältigen Angriffs
-the damage buff of Venenschnitt also works on poison

Kommentar von 801799

Some uses for this glyph, criticism is accepted and welcomed.
As this is Subtlety glyph at this time, the hemorrhage is used mainly to increase the damage of your backstab as a dagger rogue.
The formula to do this is to have Venenschnitt with 2 points and Verbesserte Gesundung with 2 points and Energetische Erholung with 3 points. You only use hemorrhage to apply the bleed and the debuff(s) followed by backstabs. Opener used can be either Premeditation/ambush or Premeditation/garrote or premeditation/cheap shot (depending on the situation) and immediate recuperate.
The main damager of your "rotation" is backstab. Finisher is preferably either Ausweiden or Zerhäckseln.
However although the glyph applies bleed on target, this does NOT make Blind or Solarplexus useless. The Blind turns into interrupt and Solarplexus stays normal as stops Solarplexus from breaking from bleeds that YOU apply. As Blind still breaks on Hemorrhage Bleed, the Blind is most effective in this case with 2 macros and when fighting 2 enemies at once (pref healer and dps):
/focus target
and
/target focus
/cast blind
/targetlasttarget
What that does is it Blinds your Focus target and continues to beat your current target.
You can focus your 2nd target with the first macro. Gouge stays the same.

Kommentar von 550217

Basic question: the tooltip for Hemo says that it does 30% extra damage as a bleed effect.

So does this glyph do 40% more for a total of 70% of base damage or 40% total (+10%)?

Kommentar von Mormodes

If you want to track the 24 second debuff from this glyph with an addon (without Hemorrhage coming up instead) try using the spell id 89775

This is the link to the actual 24 second debuff: Hemorrhage

Blizzard gave both debuffs the same name, which make this difficult to track with addons such as Power Auras. I use TellMeWhen to track mine.

EDIT: Why downvote? This is accurate information...

Kommentar von PriestessAur

In Mists of Pandaria this glyph has changed.

OLD: Glyph of Hemorrhage - Your Hemorrhage ability also causes the target to bleed, dealing 40% of the direct strike's damage over 24 sec.
NEW: Glyph of Hemorrhage - Your Hemorrhage ability only causes lingering damage over time to targets that were already afflicted by a Bleed effect.

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Glyphe 'Blutsturz'

Gegenstandsstufe 29

Benötigt Stufe 29
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Eure Fähigkeit 'Blutsturz' lässt das Ziel bluten und verursacht so zusätzlich im Verlauf von 24 sec 40% ihres direkten Schadens.

Maximaler Stapel: 20

Verkaufspreis: 1

Glyphe 'Blutsturz'

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