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Kommentar von nirv

Dropped tonight in Shattered Halls and I won it! Going to sell it on AH but not sure how much yet.

Kommentar von 29165

dropped in shadow labs for me - what can i say? the druid and the pally had to roll it out - pally won.

Kommentar von 9515

shaman/paladin ? i can't see this being useful to much else... hunter doesn't need spell damage... majority of casters don't need str... (headsplode)

Kommentar von Gvaldir

one dropped for me in Dark portal of one of the mini bosses
we just wiped so nobody was there to roll for it except for me, so i won it, and nobody bothered :D

Kommentar von Jordaeh

Dropped tonight from a Ethereum Overlord in Netherstorm while farming some Ethereum Prison Keys.

I am a shaman myself, but it's going straight to the AH.
Stat's are pretty weak imo, missing some stamina. Could be usefull for the non raiding shamans/paladin's tho!

Kommentar von 1826

what is nice about it is that it is the ONLY amulet with both strength and +damage/healing, thus making it a special hybrid necklace. There's no green necklace, no blue necklace and no epic necklace with both these 2 stats on them at the same time, except for this one.

The amount of strength is not weak either, a good +23 and a moderate amount of +damage.

Kommentar von 34251

Unfortunately this epic is not in demand, and will not sell for much.

As a Shaman, the only time I can think of wanting this epic necklace is when I have insanely good gear to support a hybrid build. Shaman itemization simply does not allow for good hybrid specs. Even with the best gear you could find, you would be doing much better specializing.

As for Paladins, I'm not too sure; I guess some (Retribution Paladins, maybe?) would value spell damage and strength as stats that go hand in hand. Speaking of which, Paladin itemization has these sorts of stats... soo.... currently up on AH for 400g b/o.

Kommentar von 35184

I'm surprised no one has suggested a feral hybrid use for this neckpiece. A solid chunk of strength adds quite a bit of attack power, and 17 intellect is nothing to be discounted either. Add that with the damage / healing and it comes to jack of all trades, master of none sort of deal.

or think of it this way, this necklace improves:

attack power
mana pool
spell damage
healing

Kommentar von 99590

I picked up off a demon hunter initiate in Shadow Moon Valley.

Kommentar von 40815

Ever since 2.3 changed Crusader Strike to no longer scale from spelldamage, this item is absolutely useless for a ret paladin. Spelldamage just isn't worth itemizing. Sure, a paladin still has to cast his judgements that scale from SD (to get mana back from Sanctified Judgement), but all in all, a paladin would lose more from spelldamage than they would gain.

It might be different for an enh shaman, but I'd still be inclined to think that for them, this item still fails.

Kommentar von beforememory

This item seems to be a world drop i just had it drop off guy in heroic Bot.

Kommentar von jaxsonbateman

Do not be mistaken. This is not a good piece for any class that truly wants to min/max their tanking/dps/healing.

Logically, the two classes that would jump to your mind when looking at this piece are enhancement shammies and ret pallies.

Enh shammies focus on stacking AP and crit. The extra int is nice, but not necessary. They get more SD than they need from their AP => SD talent. Basically, the only defining stat on this piece for them is 23 str, and surely they can find a better blue neck elsewhere with as much AP, and some crit instead of sub-par int and SD.

It is essentially the same for ret pallies - whilst they have no AP => SD talent, they also need it far less, as their two main sources of damage (Crusader Strike and Seal of Command/Blood) rely solely on AP and crit, and it has been shown time and time again that stacking AP and crit for these two sources of damage does far superior dps to stacking SD for the rest of their abilities. As such, like with shammies, the only significant stat on this neck for a ret pally is the str.

Basically, both classes can find better necks elsewhere. IMO, these days this neck is mainly a highlighter for people that either buy gold, or don't know enough about their class.

Kommentar von Sapphidia

Whilst I hate to admit it, as up until now this necklace has proven to be a worthless pile of rubbish for just about every spec, when patch 3.0 arrives with the changes to prot paladins, this neck might actually prove to be a pretty nice option for a Threat/Solo neck. High strength and good spelldamage on one item should provide a good coefficient boost to the paladin's abilities.

Of course, it has zero stamina so is useless for serious boss tanking, but for those paladins who have one lying around or can pick it up cheap (it's possibly the cheapest of all the level 70 epic BOEs) it might actually prove to be a worthwhile investment, even if just for soloing.

Kommentar von FlayOnDarkIron

I won this neck out of heroic Black Morass forever and a day ago, and its been sitting in my bank ever since. I was never able to sell it because the only thing that was really epic about it was how bad it was, and I couldn't bring myself to vendor it.

WELL! Turns out that in Cata its getting buffed!

Old

23 Str
19 Int
22 Spell power

New

23 Str
23 Stam
19 crit rating

I might be able to sell it yet!

Kommentar von Allakhazam

The only person who would like to buy it is actually Retribution paladin who is oriented on pure raid support, i.e. less crits and more AP and spell damage. Well, there are no such paladins at WoW 2.0.10, as they have no place in 10-men raids mostly, so it is quite hard to sell. :)

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Lol just found it, hope it sells nice :)
Still can't believe

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Dropped off a Netherwing Dragon in Netherstorm

Edited, Feb 17th 2007 3:13pm by FMChaotiX

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Some guy on my server wanted 700g Haha!

Kommentar von Allakhazam

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Kommentar von Allakhazam

You cank look me up on the exodar server, and we can work something out

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Just found it aswell.. fell of a water elemental in nagrand :P

Edited, Feb 16th 2007 5:04am by Bullerdude

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Dropped off a Skettis Soul Caller, Terokkar (server: Feathermoon).

Kommentar von Thottbot

i dont think it sucks to bad, i mean with a hybrid feral/resto druid it could be fairly useful in combo with nurturing instinct ....

Kommentar von Thottbot

It's a paladin item, duh.

Kommentar von Thottbot

the guy who said this item sucks has obviously never heard of an enhancement shaman/retribution pally. 22 strength = 44 ap, with the damage and healing and intellect makes this a pretty damn good neck. sure it ain't no magtheridon loot, but you gotta start somewhere.

Kommentar von Thottbot

Found this in Black morass on one of the rift guys selling on spinebreaker europe

Kommentar von Thottbot

Prices on my server are between 150 and 300 gold

Kommentar von Thottbot

went 4 25g bo i bought resold for 75

Kommentar von Thottbot

it droped from a water elemental in nagrand to me.

Kommentar von Thottbot

Dropped for me off mob at soceres seat in netherstorm while minning sold for 400g

Kommentar von Thottbot

Dropped for me last night in Heroic Slave Pens.

Kommentar von Thottbot

For all of you wondering who needs all of this... I'd say a Prot Paladin.
Int - mana and so on ^^

Strength, not so much for white damage, rather for the amount absorbed by the shield

spell dmg - prot pallys build their aggro with holy dmg.
If there are any questions about the last point, please consult the comments of ANY spell dmg sword
(comment 1 - "tank pally" / comment 2 - "oooh so little dps, not tank pally" / comment 3 - explanation how pally build aggro, accompanied by some insults^^)

Kommentar von Thottbot

Got it from trash mobs at non-heroic SL.

I doubt I'm going to sell it, tho... Auctioneer says 166~200g, I don't think it's worth that much.

Kommentar von Thottbot

Ok now, let's look at this logically.

-It's obviously for melee classes that also use mana.

-That's leaving two main classes

-Enhancement Shaman and Ret Pallies, possibly prot pallies (STR for increased block)

No, its not the ^&*!z or the pwnage lewtz but you have to start somewhere, I could see this being useful for some classes. That's all I have to say about it

Kommentar von Thottbot

The stats would be nice for a blue, but crap for an epic.

Kommentar von Thottbot

To all you morons who say this sucks, its a ret pally item, and the stats it gives you are PERFECT for a ret palla .

Ok its not the best epic ever but its a bloody fantstic necklace becuase str/spell dmg items are VERY VERY rare.

Kommentar von Thottbot

i have this on Silvermoon EU PVE

Alliance side

got it in skettis.

name is Odinni /w me if you wanna buy :).

Kommentar von Thottbot

ok 1 thing, all of u saying thi ssucks, its for holy pallys moslty and u can thotbot some other neklaces arent much better 1s, and some people say it should be green, epic dosnt mean its always good, it just means its really rare

Kommentar von Thottbot

This item is a great ret pally necklace for this reason: key ret pally stats are strength, spell dmg, intellect, and stamina, not necessarily in that order (depends on if you play melee heavy or spell heavy). This is great because it's the only necklace out there with strength, intellect, and spell damage. If you're looking to put together an epic ret set, besides this you'll have to go with either a full melee neck with just strength, agility, hit rating, etc or you'll have to go wiht a full caster neck with just intellect, spell dmg, and maybe +spell crit. Thus this is better suited for a ret pally.

Kommentar von Thottbot

Dropped during The Cipher of Damnation - Ar'tor's Charge off of quest mob. 4-17-08

Kommentar von Thottbot

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Kommentar von Thottbot

I found mine from one of the BE in Quel'Danas. Very low drop rate, less than 0.0%. Nice item for ret pallys.

Kommentar von Thottbot

just got one from a Skettis Surger

Kommentar von Thottbot

this really is for healer solo pet hunter ring

there was this hunter who was able to tank with his pet because he had heals on it.

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