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Kommentar von 26745

i think this BP could be better for hunters but still not bad and definately worth trying to get.

nice stam, NICE NICE Intel +Regen,1% crit and 72 atk power. not bad. i would get a pvp type enchant on this, i got +6 mp/reg on my other bp... but this one has enough mana regen on it imo.

Kommentar von 32048

This is probably more for Enhancement Shaman than for hunters, IMO. Hunters have better choices with Agi on them than this. Having more Int than Sta on this is what seals the deal as a Shaman breastplate.

Kommentar von zagi

This one turns out to be a quite sad breastplate when compared to Ebon Netherscale Breastplate (https://www.wowhead.com/cata/item=29515) using 4crit/6sta and 8crit gems.

Lose: 4 stamina, 1 manaregen, 22critrating, 34armor and 4 agility.
Gains: 16 intellect.

Kinda huge difference (over 1% crit and less AP) when compared.

Another equalent of this one would be the Thick Netherscale Breastplate (https://www.wowhead.com/cata/item=29514) which also is Leatherworking-made.

Lose: 36agility, 9stamina, 4ap, 34armor.
Gains: 10intellect, 21critrating, 7manaregen.

I dare to say yet again this one is beat by a BoE Leatherworking chest.

Kommentar von 20616

The new stats are

812 Armor
+33 stamina
+38 intellect
Improve critical strike rating by 24
Increase attack power by 80
Restore 8 mana per 5 sec.

Kommentar von zealvurte

Skin is changing in 2.1.2, away from the horrid and overused red Dragon Stalker reskin.

If i'm not mistaken, it is a green reskin of Best Lord / Desolation.

Kommentar von 60642

The Dragonstalker set "remake"

Helm

https://www.wowhead.com/cata/item=31106 Quest Reward (Teron Gorefiend, I am)
https://www.wowhead.com/cata/item=28801 Gruul's Lair (High King Maulgar)

Chest

https://www.wowhead.com/cata/item=28599 Karazhan (Nightbane)

Shoulders

https://www.wowhead.com/cata/item=28589 Karazhan (Opera )

Boots

https://www.wowhead.com/cata/item=30104 Serpenshine Cavern (Lady Vashj)

Legs

https://www.wowhead.com/cata/item=28740 Karazhan (Netherspite)

Gloves

https://www.wowhead.com/cata/item=28519 Karazhan (Maiden of Virtue)

Kommentar von 33682

Let's compare this item to a level 115 blue from a heroic dungeon.

Shard Encrusted Breastplate
652 Armor
+32 Agility (32 AP, 16 crit rating)
+24 Stamina
+23 Intellect
Durability 120 / 120
Requires Level 70
Equip: Increases attack power by 70.
Equip: Restores 3 mana per 5 sec

Taking this epic nets you the following stats
-22 AP
+8 crit rating
+9 stamina
+15 intellect
+5 mp5

Why do hunter upgrades always sacrifice dps for 'balanced' stats?

Kommentar von 55524

https://www.wowhead.com/cata/item=31295

Chestguard of the Dark Stalker
Binds when equipped
Chest Leather
285 Armor
+31 Stamina
Durability 100 / 100
Requires Level 69
Equip: Improves critical strike rating by 32.
Equip: Increases attack power by 84.

BOE blue item, avg AH price of 30g.

Kommentar von 7285

Dropped last kharazan run, i got it for my enh spec, its clearly an enhancment shaman chest.
Damn hunter learn to play instead of trying to complain about ninjing items

Kommentar von RoboKestrel

Insultingly low on attack power. Compare this to the Felstalker Breastplate https://www.wowhead.com/cata/item=25696#comments

Felstalker, socketed with all +8 agility gems would equal:

50 Agility (1.25% crit)
52 Attack Power
----
102 Attack Power total.

With 3 points in Careful Aim you'll get 45% of your Int routed back into your Attack Power

11.7 (26*.45)
---
113.7 AP
1.25% Crit

Now compare that to Scaled Breastplate

80 AP
17.1 (38 int * .45)
-----
97.1 AP
1.14% Crit.

Yes, it has more stam and int, along with mana regen. Depending on your prioritization, the Scaled Breastplate could be an upgrade for you, particularly if you're mana starved. However, if you're looking for AP and crit, this is most likely a downgrade.

Kommentar von Kathucka

Think of the whole set. This is a solid piece of gear for hunters and enhancement shamans.

The MP/5 and Intellect on this piece allow you to swap out other pieces with mana for pieces with hit rating, agility/strength, attack power, and crit.

Plus, this has a lot of stamina and more armor than any pre-Kara mail PvE chest piece. In some fights, you're just plain going to get hit (Doomwalker, Gruul, Magtheridon), no matter how talented you might be. Remaining alive does more for your DPS than anything else.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

For a beast mastery hunter.

The ap is really good on the pet dps, the stamina and armour also improve your pet significantly, the MP5 allows you to stay in hawk longer, and the crit helps a hell of a lot with those Kill commands.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Nice bit of body.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Well the thing is this aint that much better than the Beast Lord Curiass with a couple of nice gems in it..

Kürass des Wildtierfürsten thats pretty odd imho.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Where's teh agility? BC itemization FTL

Kommentar von Thottbot

Kalbur1,
are you 100% sure that you are mature enough to be around on sites where it is possible to post?
Then start using your head and work out some critism worth reading instead of that bull!@#$ you just posted, please.

Kommentar von Thottbot

To the ones who think this isn't a great chest for hunters: You are idiots

Spamming steady shot wont get you anywhere dmg-wise, and yes.. if you were to ever set foot outside your local battleground you would have noticed the importance of stats such as intelligence and mana regen.
kbyethx.

Kommentar von Thottbot

YES, this would be a good chest for hunters, but im my opinion (IN NO WAY SAYING THAT IT SHOULD), in my opinion it enh shammies should have THE SAME prio as any hunter. To the shammies and hunter who are @#$%^ing... shut up theres no need.

Hunter- Insane dps (ive see nthem out dps lock/mages easily) / SOME cc's / can control agro

Shaman- CAN do stupidly high dps (though not as much as a hutner imo) / CAN HEAL if needed (this can be a life saver) / CAN contol their agro (and if they cant thats just pathetic, get them to install KTM and stay low)

Personally id like to see this go to a Shaman. Imo i only say hunter gear if it has Agi on it, i wouldnt like to see a shaman with +agi on his gear (especially if he rolld vs a hutner).

Good for Hunter / Shammy (same prio)

p.s. enh shammys have tiny mana pools too (maybe less than a hunter), just so you know (under 7k).

Kommentar von Thottbot

Even tho I must agree, that I pass on all the +agi mail, because hunters benefits agi more then shamans, this would benefit hunters too, even it they dont need that much int..

I really hoped blizzard could itemize abit better, like they did on the tier sets for enhancement shamans, putting +strength instead of +AP. Making it unreasonable for hunters, GMs and raidleaders to quarrel over who gets the +AP loot.

Kommentar von Thottbot

PASS!

Enh shammy can have it.

Maybe if it had a half decent set of sockets on it, but alas, only way to improve this sad waste of loot table (In a hunter's eyes anyhow) is with a chest enchant.

Kommentar von Thottbot

Saying that one race is better than another is a stupid thing to say. It depends on the person playing the character not the character itself.

Kommentar von Thottbot

OK, since all you shammy/hunter are complaining so much here is where it stands. Hunters can get just as much out of this as a shammy could, hunters get bonus ap from the int if they are marks(which is the favored raid spec) then they put crit on it to make up for the lack of agi.

Shammys get the bonus from the crit and the bonus int to use their shocks every once and while for improved dps.

Since right now I havn't seen a shammy dps in raids so far, i have yet to feel they can out dps a hunter since if they go all out they probably would pull agro and die. Where as hunters could go all out, Feign, then aspect of the viper to do more shots if you go oom.

As far as it goes for this item, my guild handles these constant wars with rolls, if you got the luck you win, if you don't better luck next week.
Kthxbai

Kommentar von Thottbot

the lack of Agi is made up by the good amount of ap and crit. as a hunter I would LOVE to have this.
AGI isnt as important as it once was pre tbc. most hunters that I know look for AP,CRIT,AGI in that order. Also with all the +agi chants in the game you can make up for the lack on other gear. IE. +12 agi to cloak. +12 agi to boots. +6 all stats to chest. this isnt a UBER LEET chest but its very good for items this early in TBC,

my armory profile -> http://@#$%^&*.com/yuu4pe

Kommentar von Thottbot

Regardless...it's a good chest for either class. So now that being said; there are other mail chests with higher AP out there, but that's not to say a hunter shouldn't be allowed by this one. But whoever said "First off, A shaman can't control his agro and will wipe a raid in a second with his crazy burst damage. 2nd) Hunters can CC to a large extent if they are smart in" Ummm pretty sure any enhancement shaman doing end-game raiding has already learned how to control his aggro(or I dont know why any guild would take one if they didn't already learn) w/ KTM and not be a dumbass so that means that they don't pull aggro and a enhancement shaman that doesn't pull aggro will do more for his group than a hunter cuz of totems/bloodlust/unleashed raged. Hunters have their pros too, but dont go downing shamans cuz u 5manned with a bad one.

Kommentar von Thottbot

ur all very stupid for fighting over this...
(i dispair at our chances in this world when there are children like this around....)

Kommentar von Thottbot

aw yes, yet more "hunter gear" with NO FKING AGILITY. have at it shammies, all yours. i'll stick to my gladiator's chest, thank you.

Kommentar von Thottbot

this is 1 peice of armor for godsakes get more armor yeah theres more if your doing kara you probably have t4 whitch has agility and you can get enchants + socket any socket armor and for godsake quit arguing if your even doing karazhan chances are you have dkp or you roll

Kommentar von Thottbot

To the shaman above who has no idea about hunters...

With reduced trap resist, traps are perfectly reliable. In fact a hunter can drop a trap, allow CD then drop a 2nd trap. A hunter can actually trap 4 mobs with full surv.

You won't accept that is possible I bet, but say against demons on Botannica or during the long fight b4 2nd boss in BF trapping 2 mobs alone makes a hunter look pro. No mage can do that.

I think the point that was used to agro u is that hunters dont get a great deal from shamen. Normally their totems dont help hunters, plus they use mail. On the other hand - I find paladins ninja more often.

Kommentar von Thottbot

Laughing Skull battle Harness socketed correctly is better than this piece socketed correctly. This is purely shammy gear unless your a hunter with worse gear and it actually is an upgrade for you.

Kommentar von Thottbot

Just got this today off Nightbane, i honestly gotta say i don't think it's that much better then Beast Lord Cuirass.

As to the comment about hunter traps being unreliable? It's totally true. I'm spec'd 7/42/12, with two beast lord pieces. That being said though, i'd like to see a mage sheep an undead, a rogue sap an elemental or a priest shackle a humanoid. Plus, most kara groups run with locks, my group runs with two. Get them to chuck a Curse of Elements on your target, and you're good to go.

We only run with 1 priest, so i have to CC in alot of the pulls. Even keeping one of the Moroes adds trapped the whole fight isn't difficult. Remember, when CC'ing with hunter traps only pull once the hunter says to (about 5-8 seconds before the trap CD is over.)

You also have Scatter, buying you 4 seconds to get out of range and conc shot if you get an early break/resist. Hunter trapping is so unreliable, because you can pretty much trap anything. What other class can CC the big robot guys in heroic mech? ;)

Kommentar von Thottbot

now ive seen it all
a paladin with arans offhand last week, a warrior with this chest today.

Kommentar von Thottbot

Nice chest for both enh sham/hunt and for the endless arugment on who brings more to the raid and half the shamans on this forum blasting hunters ...really quit being so ignorant and thinking your opinion is the right. Blizz wouldnt have put a hunter class in the game if we diidnt have a purpose period. You %^&*in egotistical pompous narrow, minded idiots.

BTw with MD half of you enh shammies would pull aggro off of tank, Especially in gruul's.

Kommentar von Thottbot

WISH IT HAD SOCKETS, sick of the lack of Hunter Kara gear without them ;P

Kommentar von Thottbot

I think its you that has no raiding experience bro.

I'm a 70 elemental shaman that has experience far past mag.
And almost every guild uses one enhancement shaman.

Kommentar von Thottbot

Intel is good for all hunters,

This is good for all hunter types or melee shammy.

Kommentar von Thottbot

Well as its said above its good for both. As for comparing the 2 classes, both bring various things to a raid. enhancement shamans bring DPS and if need be an Off healer for certain fights. They also bring totems that are usually improved in that tree and that can improve both their own and others dps a great deal (windfury on an arms warrior, dont even get me started!) With an enhancement shammy they already get 30% aggro reduction and usually with salv they rarly pull unless the tank is bad. With their talents, they can also improve nature dmg by 20% with stormstrike, and their unleashed fury (10% more atk power). Enhancement shammys provide both good Dps and support to many other classes improving them so they are amazing (they can also rez themselves which is a plus). Last of all they have the cooldowns which include another dpser/tank (the elementals), and heroism which can be a life saver. A hunter yes depending on various specs can be an expert trapper and CC, as well as an amazing dps (even more so than an enhancement shammy), as well with their pet can help the raid with there increased atk power ferocity. They also have the true shot aura which is also cool and the mark and Feign death which can get them and the raid out of some sticky spots (bad pull, he FD and try again!). More so the hunter is more a dps char that works on himself, but can dish out a great deal of dps.

However personally, with the shaman enhancing the raid's dps (which will in the long run, both his dps and the added dps to the other chars will surpass the hunter's dps), the raid will go faster and smoother usually. sure at times hunters can out dps the shaman, but the overall raid dps is higher and completing the instance is the real goal here, not whos number one on dps, and i believe shamans can help complete that a bit better.

Now that you had your lesson of the day, the chest is good both for hunters and shamans, however since this chest meets both chars fairly well, but this chest shouldn't have a priority since it benefits both so well, while other pieces of gear can benefit hunters more so than shammys.

Kommentar von Thottbot

This is good for both enhance shamy and hunter. I play both class and this is really nice for my hunter because it has a good amount of intel. My mana pool is about 7.5K buffed which is not enough for long boss fights. For Prince, I chug 2 mana pots during the fight and have to use Aspect of the Viper to regen mana. This is also really nice for enhance shamy. It is the best chest for both classes and the best chest you can get from Kara. For pure DPS, my BM hunter can top the DPS chart without a problem and I have improved hunter's mark and 3% damage increase with my hunter. For my shamy, he brings totems, bloodlust, and res when we wipe. So to sum it up, don't get upset when one or the other class rolls for this item.

Kommentar von Thottbot

I got this on my Hunter. The Master Looter INSISTED on giving this to me, even when I told him it wasn't an upgrade. No one really wanted it.

About the Shaman and Hunter debate... if it's upgrade for the Enhancement Shaman, roll. If it's upgrade for the Hunter, roll. Seriously, stop #$%^&ing about who should or should not get it.

Kommentar von Thottbot

I got this today on my Ret paladin. The enhance shaman had his t4 chest and there were no hunters so I took it since it was an upgrade. I'm digging it so far. Would rather trade the mp5 for something like hit but this is a great upgrade over my Adamantite Breastplate. Not too badly geared for a alt.

Kommentar von Thottbot

had sockets once right?

Kommentar von Thottbot

This chest can be an upgrade for any hunter or shaman it depends on their current chest item...stop complaining like childs about this is for hunters or this is for my mom...if u need it need it...and btw the discussion about shammies being better than hunters...they're wrong ...i agree the shaman totems and the 10% ap is very usefull but shammies dont have crowd control they cant use traps ...what can i say you shammies think of urselvs so overpowered because of your "windfury weapon"... try to stick to reality

Kommentar von Thottbot

If I lost this to a shammy there are 2 reasons that i couldn't complain. 1.) its desinged for hunters and shammies. 2.) There is a chest piece in heroic MGT that is just as good if not better that i have been to lazy to get. If a shaman in my guild got this over me i'd be happy for him and he would think likewise if I got it. Anyone in the raid getting an upgrade effects the whole raid.

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