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Kommentar von phorx

I've got nothing but applause for Blizzard this time with all the red sockets and the exclusively-Agility socket bonuses this time around! Tier12 was better than T11, but the shoulders were a disappointment.

This is what Hunters have wanted all along. I guess they took the hint from looking at how people have been gemming (sp?) for straight Agility and totally ignoring silly mastery bonuses.

Kommentar von xstaindx

...and a ranged weapon to go with it!

Kommentar von 892487

This set is a real good upgrade for every hunter. Sockets are best we can have and also the 2 piece set bonus is a must/have for every hunter!

Kommentar von Cyphonner

If you put all appropriate gems in their proper color slot
174 agility from set socket bonus

If using 9x red Feingeschliffener Infernorubin and 1x yellow Tödlicher Gluttopas with the meta Agiler Irrlichtdiamant
You will have 554 Agility plus the 20 critical strike from the yellow gem
A total of 2494 Agility from gems and tier 13 gear alone.

If using 6x red Feingeschliffener Infernorubin, 3x red Feingeschliffenes Schimärenauge, and 1x yellow Tödlicher Gluttopas with the meta Agiler Irrlichtdiamant
You will have 615 Agility plus the 20 critical strike from the yellow gem
A total of 2555 Agility from gems and tier 13 gear alone.

*(not sure if epic level gems will be implemented, so I'm going by the blue gems currently available. I will edit accordingly if new gems are released.)

**(The mouse over on the link for "Delicate Chimera's Eye" is showing 77 instead of the in-game 67. Not sure if thats a website error or not but I'm going by the in-game 67 agility JC gem.)

Kommentar von brocke

Good looking staff to match the set for mogging comes from Halfus Böswilligkeit.

Kommentar von rokkitan

Here is Blizzards official Hunter t13 preview and visual retrospective.

Kommentar von mummer

Back to the Stalker names again.
Good one Blizz.

Kommentar von MantiKore

Tbh, I rather lose Tunika des Wyrmjägers and get Drachenschinderweste or better even, lose Handschuhe des Wyrmjägers for Sporenbartstulpen.

If you use Kopfschutz des Wyrmjägers and Schiftung des Wyrmjägers you will get:

Head: 426 agility + 54 agility (metagem) + 40 agility (gem) + 30 agility (socket bonus) = 550 agility + 346 Crit + 246 Mastery
Shoulders: 321 agility + 80 agility (gems) + 20 agility (socket bonus) = 421 agility + 242 crit + 193 haste

Just these 2 give you 971 agility + 588 crit + 193 haste + 246 mastery.

1) With Handschuhe des Wyrmjägers + Beinschützer des Wyrmjägers + Drachenschinderweste, you'll get:

Chest: 509 agility + 80 agility (gems) + 20 agility (socket bonus) = 609 agility + 315 crit + 366 haste
Gloves: 341 agility + 40 agility (gems) + 10 agility (socket bonus) = 391 agility + 205 hit + 247 haste
Legs: 426 agility + 120 agility (gems) + 30 agility (socket bonus) = 576 agility + 308 crit + 280 mastery

Those 3 items grant you 1576 agility + 623 crit + 613 haste + 280 mastery + 205 hit. If you add to head and shoulders, you have 2547 agility + 1211 crit + 806 haste + 526 mastery + 205 hit.

2) With Tunika des Wyrmjägers + Sporenbartstulpen + Beinschützer des Wyrmjägers you will get:

Chest: 489 agility + 100 agility (gems) + 30 agility (socket bonus) = 619 agility + 20 crit (gems) + 294 hit + 288 haste
Gloves: 368 agility + 80 agility (gems) + 20 agility (socket bonus) = 468 agility + 287 crit + 197 haste
Legs: 426 agility + 120 agility (gems) + 30 agility (socket bonus) = 576 agility + 308 crit + 280 mastery

Those 3 items grant you 1663 agility + 615 crit + 485 haste + 280 mastery + 294 hit. If you add to head and shoulders, you have 2634 agility + 1203 crit + 678 haste + 526 mastery + 294 hit.

3) With Tunika des Wyrmjägers + Handschuhe des Wyrmjägers + Gamaschen der zerrissenen Erde you will get:

Chest: 489 agility + 100 agility (gems) + 30 agility (socket bonus) = 619 agility + 20 crit (gems) + 294 hit + 288 haste
Gloves: 341 agility + 40 agility (gems) + 10 agility (socket bonus) = 391 agility + 205 hit + 247 haste
Legs: 426 agility + 120 agility (gems) = 546 agility + 299 crit + 280 haste

Those 3 items grant you 1556 agility + 319 crit + 815 haste + 499 hit. If you add to head and shoulders, you have 2527 agility + 907 crit + 1008 haste + 246 mastery + 499 hit.

Looking at these numbers, I'd say that the off-tier item is clearly the gloves, with high-end gear. Note that I didn't take into account reforging (extra mastery and hit can be reforged into crit/haste) nor extra stats given by professions like Juwelenschleifen or Schmiedekunst.

Cheers.
Manti

Kommentar von Machinassiah

After rigorous testing, I can confirm that the 4 piece set bonus has an internal cooldown of exactly 110 seconds. The 40% proc rate is accurate, and it procs when arcane shot lands, rather than when you cast it.

Kommentar von Thestool

T13 4p is absolutely better than the T12 tier 4p, come to think of it the T13 2p is better than the T12 4p (T13 2pItem - Hunter T13 2P Bonus (Steady Shot and Cobra Shot)) (T12 4p Item - Hunter T12 4P Bonus) double focus for every cobra/steady shot or 10% to get a focus free shot off?
So when replacing your flamewaker's battlegear there should be no problem doing so and breaking the 4p.
a good way of optimizing the 4p and not hindering your dps by using acrane shot the entire fight is get NeedToKnow (a CD managing addon) and set an ICD for Jäger der Zeit i believe the icd is 110 secs (1 min 50 secs) so start off using arcane shot as your focus dump for the 4p. Then when the you get it to proc do you RF rotation after that used aimed shot as your normal focus dump. Since your ICD manager is monitoring it wait for it to go down and then use arcane shot as your focus dump unitil it procs then repeat.

edit: this was before testing of the 2 piece and how much focus it generated which made us arcane shot a lot more.

Kommentar von Lands

All three hunter specs are viable in PvE © Blizz
but we design tier gear only for mm and sometimes bm are happy with leftovers

Kommentar von barbeque

There is actually good synergy between the 2pc set bonus and the 4pc set bonus.

The first thing you will realize when you complete the 2pc set is that you will have extra focus a lot more often, which you will bleed off with arcane shots anyway. With this in mind, the 4pc set bonus comes in handy no matter which spec you are. On the surface, BM may appear to benefit more from the 4pc set bonus since they fire off a lot more arcane shots, but with the ICD at close to 2 minutes, the additional benefit is probably limited.

Some common misperceptions I have noticed are:
1. The 2pc bonus gives you free arcane shots. The arcane shots are not free. When you are firing arcane shots, you are not firing off cobra or steady shots. So the damage increase comes from the damage of arcane shots minus the damage of cobra/ steady shots.
2. The 4pc bonus is crap. I don't understand this, really. 30% haste is the equivalent of bloodlust/ heroism/ timewarp. Assuming it is up 45s in a 6 minute encounter, you will have had the equivalent of your own little bloodlust in addition to what your shaman or mage friends bring.

Lastly, this is also a good time to change one of your glyphs to the Glyph of Arcane Shot. Whether you like it or not, you are going to be firing off a lot of these in 4.3.

Kommentar von 657162

anyone know if the 4p works exactly like bloodlust or more like bm focus fire wich increases range fire rate and focus regen by 15% if fully staked. Because if it works like bm focus fire a 30% increase to focus regen plus attack speed then this is way better then lust.

Kommentar von 905973

As a Survival hunter focused on PvE/ occasional raiding, I would like to put in my 2-bits. Personally, I did not like the set bonuses too much. The 2-set is nice, sometimes a little extra focus can help keeping my rotation. After all, it really is irritating when i miscalculate the rotation and have to fire an extra Cobra shot to refill the focus and use the main shots.

Although, it's not really exciting having to readapt my whole rotation/glyphs because of the new set. Call me lazy, bur ARCANE? I really never use it nowadays.. Its mainly a focus dump for me, and I (almost) NEVER dump focus, being on the low side most of the time.

Of course, the extra focus will probably keep my focus up, and then arcane will become more useful. Hence the glyph review, as already stated by barbeque: Once we start firing a lot of arcanes, Glyph of Arcane Shot becomes useful again.

Let's wait for tier 14, and hope it gets a mor direct bonus, like the crit or haste procs depending on shot-usage...

Kommentar von Thestool

Original by: Cyphonner
Hasn't been updated so i thought i'll do it.

If using 9x red Feingeschliffener Königinnengranat and Tödliche Lavakoralle 1x yellow with the meta Agiler Irrlichtdiamant You will have 649 Agility plus the 25 critical strike from the yellow gem A total of 2559 Agility from gems and tier 13 gear alone.

If using 6x red Feingeschliffener Königinnengranat, 3x red Feingeschliffenes Schimärenauge and Tödliche Lavakoralle 1x yellow with the meta Agiler Irrlichtdiamant You will have 700 Agility plus the 25 critical strike from the yellow gem A total of 2610 Agility from gems and tier 13 gear alone.

Kommentar von Eillesthis

Wyrmstalker Battlegear is the platinum-bluish 384 raid finder version.
Schlachtrüstung des Wyrmjägers is the gold-reddish 397 regular version (this set).
Wyrmstalker Battlegear is the silver-purplish 410 heroic version.
They're all from Drachenseele, and use the same models, of course. It's not clear to me if they all count as Tier 13, or if only the middle set does.

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Schlachtrüstung des Wyrmjägers

Schlachtrüstung des Wyrmjägers ist das Schlachtzugsset: Tier 13. Es enthält 5 Teile.

	Tunika des Wyrmjägers (1)
	Handschuhe des Wyrmjägers (1)
	Kopfschutz des Wyrmjägers (1)
	Beinschützer des Wyrmjägers (1)
	Schiftung des Wyrmjägers (1)

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