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Kommentar von TheOnyx

Mograine is located inside the actual Cathedral in the Cathedral Wing of Scarlet Monastery.

Before engaging Mograine, make sure you clear out everyone else inside the Cathedral, including the groups in the side wings.

Once you defeat Mograine, High Inquisitor Whitemane (https://www.wowhead.com/cata/npc=3977) will appear. Once you get her to around 50% health, she'll sleep the entire party, resurrect Mograine, then heal herself. At this point, taking out Whitemane first is advised, since she heals.

Kommentar von LKolmir

Mograine is not lootable until after he is killed the second time. If you have a level 60 running the instance with you they should back off the DPS once Whitemane has appeared to prevent killing her before the scripted event occurs.

Kommentar von WildW

Be carefull not to nuke this fight, but to do it slow and mana efficient, at least during the first kill of Mograine.

Kommentar von 30651

Can he be Seduced?

Kommentar von 35367

I've been doing this with my shaman with jsut 4 man parties.
Once with a 42 Warrior, 41 Shaman, 41 Druid and me ( 35 ).
Later on I did this with: 43(dinged 44) Shaman, 41(dinged 42) Shaman, 39 paladin and me ( 37 that time ). Both runs were fast and easy. With the first party we were able to do 2 runs within 1hour, with the second party , I couldn't complete the 2 run because I had to go, but we managed to do the first run within 35mins :)

Good Luck to everyone; and some advice:
Kill Mograine the first time _as soon as possible_
When the lady arrives, just steady dps on her, no mana waste if possible, till she sleeps the party.
Third and last advice; kill the lady first and interrupt her heals, also dispell her shield ( if you have a shaman or priest in your party ).

:)

-Calacun

Kommentar von Vlad

If you boost (high level) do not kill him, then kill the High Inquisitor Whitemane before she has ressed him, or else you won't get his loot. He will remain "dead" but still show for Humanoid tracking classes on the minimap as alive..

Had to re-boost my friend cause I killed her too quick, before she slept us and ressed him. :P

Kommentar von sacredxavier

You're in for a big surprise if you dont kill all the mobs in the cathedral first.

first time i did this with a 70 rogue, he chose not to kill everyone and when he aggroed...

everyone else that remained in the cathedral aggroed, too.
yeowch. realised no one mentioned the consequences of not killing everyone, but mind you it's gonna be close to a sure wipe if you don't clear everyone first.

Kommentar von 46402

Yea I know this info here is not very good and someone bored willl give me negative rating but: Scarlet Commander Mograine he's a level 42 elite and he is not hard to kill with a 5 man group of all lvl 38 or 39 +'s. If you are getting a run-through do not aggro him whith whole room because you will aggro every Scarlet Elite person in that whole Cathedral so i'd take out the elites first then go for him after that, After you kill him once High-Inquisitor Whitemaine comes out and rezzurect's him to full health you cannot stop her from doing so either. Cause at a quarter of health left she will make everyone in the group sleep. When you are fighting them both you will whant to kill her first cause I was farming this instance and she rezzed him twice wich really made me mad so you will whant to kill her first then kill Scarlet Commander Mograine.

Kommentar von 56502

If you're going there with some level 70 friends who are strong enough to kill High Inquisitor Whitemane BEFORE she sleeps everyone an dresurrect Mograine, it's VITAL that they hold back and let her do so anyway!

If you kill her before she does, Mograine will NOT be lootable and he will NOT give credit for the "In the name of the light" quest!

Kommentar von 99693

Level reduced to 40 in patch 2.3.

Kommentar von Silverado

As of patch 2.3.0, Scarlet Commander Mograine is now a level 40 elite.

Kommentar von 102753

this guy is the son of one of the four horseman the only one that drops anything

Kommentar von MikeB

Renault Mograine was the younger son of Highlord Mograine, also known as the Ashbringer, because of the sword he wielded against the Undead. His life before the events leading to his betrayal is unknown, but presumably he joined his father's Scarlet Crusade at a relatively young age (he was believed to be about fifteen during the Third War).

The Grand Crusader, Saidan Dathrohan (the mortal form of the Dreadlord Balnazzar), had struck a deal with Kel'Thuzad, the lich who served as the Scourge overlord in the Plaguelands, to kill Mograine; Dathrohan/Balnazzar would be in a position to take over the Crusade, and Kel'Thuzad would be rid of a great threat to his hold in Lordaeron. To that end, Dathrohan recruited young Renault, promising him great power and prestige in his Crusade if he could kill his father.

Renault led Mograine and his advisor Fairbanks into the ruined city of Stratholme, the primary fortress of the Scourge in Lordaeron, where they were to be ambushed. Fairbanks fell relatively early on, but Mograine was able to destroy the Scourge attackers. When it became clear that Mograine would prevail, Renault turned and ran, hiding until he could seize the opportunity to complete his "mission" from the Grand Crusader. After expending his energies against the Scourge, Mograine was weakened and dropped his sword to the ground. That was the opportunity Renault had waited for. Coming from behind his father, the boy picked up Ashbringer and ran it through Mograine's heart, killing the Highlord and fouling the blade...and dooming both to the service of Kel'Thuzad.

As promised, Renault was promoted to Scarlet Commander and sent to the Monastery in Tirisfal, as commander of the operations there. But his treachery would not be forgotten, even by the death knight that was Highlord Mograine. An army of soldiers from the Argent Dawn and the Scarlet Crusade entered into the Necropolis Naxxramas and destroyed the corrupted Highlord. One of them took his fouled blade and travelled to the Scarlet Monastery, where Renault cheered the coming of a new Ashbringer to lead the Scarlet Crusade to victory against "the filth of this world" - in essence, those who were not of the Crusade. Upon entering the Crusader's Chapel, however, Highlord Mograine was to have his revenge...

The Highlord's spirit, chained to the corrupted blade, appeared in the chapel and confronted his horrified son with his treachery. He then lashed out, killing the Scarlet Commander instantly. Thus, as had happened in the reverse five years earlier, Renault Mograine was killed by his own father, an act of revenge that would not be forgotten by either the Scarlet Crusade, or any who witnessed it that day.

Source: http://www.wowwiki.com

Kommentar von 138910

his drops are just dandy for a pally or warrior.

i am getting a pally power leveled right now (level 31) ran here a few times. got all the drops from SM (including deadmans hand :D) except his mace >.< want to go back and get it soon though.

edit: ran SM cath 13 times today and still no mace. shield dropped 7 times and the gloves 4 and legs twice. couldn't believe that it still hasn't dropped for me. does anyone know if patch 2.3 lowered the drop rate?

Kommentar von Spectrezh

Be careful not to kill him too quickly. Two lvl 70 friends ran me through (druid and lock) and killed him in seconds. That seemed to bug Whitemane and she did not appear from her room, so we did not get to loot Mograine nor Whitemane.

Kommentar von 162269

Did armory and cath today with my warrior. we was lvl 36 warlock, 38 druid, 39 warrior (me), lvl 37 paladin and a lvl 40 mage. Had too much dps with us, so we killed whitemane before she ressed Morgraine, and got no loot from, him. Then we did it one more time, (and slowed dps down on whitemane) and I got the shield:D

Kommentar von 168437

Well from my experience, they buffed (nerfed?) whitemane so she couldn't die after sleeping you. I had a boost with 70 arms warrior, and he got her to 1%, with rend and deep wounds on her. She haven't died, ressed Mograine and healed to full (as it's supposed to happen).

Kommentar von 100634

Lucky Mograine, he has a clean scarlet tabard.
Bad his tabard doesn't drop in-game

Kommentar von 178860

the pair of gloves that drop off this guy...are they better compared to the gautlets of the scarlet crusade?

Kommentar von Lmfao

I remember farming Cathedral with a friend of mine. I'm a shadow priest, and we managed to damage Whitemane to 10%. Unfortunate for us, i shadow word: pained her, she died before she could ress mograine, and we received no loot at all.

Kommentar von 197314

Pretty easy battle. Mage and paladin level 39.
We cleared the cathedral before starting the boss. Killed mograine the one handed only with a mace and with a wand. The pally must use Seal of wisdom. Be sure both players have full mana and hp when starting the Priestess. keep the priest they summon polimorfed all the time.
When she resses Mograine is time to start using Skills. ice veins and use all crit power of frost tree on the priestess. When she runs out of mana the paladin and you will still have half of ur tanks. Then kill both priests and then finally Mograine.

Key Skills: Seal of wisdom, Mana Gem, Evocation, Iceveins.
Current patch 3.0.2

Kommentar von 173862

As a Paladin I aggroed everything in the cath and brought them to the door so they couldn't get behind me unlucky for me the mobs bugged and went through the door and Whitemane was waiting behind it but the mobs that went through the door when i took a step back aggroed whiteman and she ran out of the door (Even thoough it hadn't opened) my aoes killed her before it killed Renault and renault had not died once. I then killed Renault and Whitemane was not there to rez him so no drops fror me to D/E :(.

Kommentar von Teldarsterallnes

Does this guy have any relation to Highlord Darion Morgraine and Highlord Alexandros Morgraine?
For those of you who don't know Darion is a NPC in Acherus:The Ebon Hold and Alexandros is his father

Kommentar von wildowned1995

thats not Morgraine, its Renault. son of Highlord Alexander Morgraine. and Renault killed his father cause he was... well whatever cant remember how i write it ! but he killed his father and Fairbanks told him to help his Alexander...cus Fairbanks is the son of Highlord Alexander Morgraine ! and renault dint help him...and so Fairbanks hided in the kinda "chapel" so...

Kommentar von 311582

The Tabard is Loot able from Armory Wing in scarlet Monastery at the last boss (Herod) After Killing him it comes Scarlet Trainee's But its low drop chance

https://www.wowhead.com/cata/item=23192 <--There is the link

Kommentar von leskunk

Pulled the whole instance a lvl 73 DK.

This is extremely easy as a blood/unholy DK. Run in, engage Mograine, kill him quickly, get Whitemane to 50% real quick and use Rune Tap (https://www.wowhead.com/cata/spell=48982) before she sleeps you. After you wake up, run towards the exit, up in the fountain then jump down. All the mobs will be forced to run around, and you can get in a half/full Heavy netherweave bandage. Now, use Death and Decay (https://www.wowhead.com/cata/spell=49937) and try to kill atleast one mob, so that you can use Corpse Explosion (https://www.wowhead.com/cata/spell=51326). If this doesn't kill them, spam-use Pestilence (https://www.wowhead.com/cata/spell=51427). Remember to use Rune Tap at every possibility and any other healing abilities (Trinkets, armor with heal abilities etc.)

Good luck! :)

Afallenangel - Azjol-Nerub, EU

(You should maybe clear some of the mobs, seeing that I was full with outland (instance) blues and epics)

Please mark what I say in the beginning.

Pulled the whole instance a lvl 73 DK.

Kommentar von 302359

When you have killed him in first phase, he falls to the ground, and High Inquisitor Whitemane appears from a room, she will begin fighting you. After she's been harmed a while, she will use a spell called Deep Sleep, which causes all of the Party to fall asleep. Meanwhile all is sleeping, she ressurects Scarlet Commander Mograine.

Kommentar von darkwiz787

lvl 80 boomkin with the spell power well fed and very well geared CAN 1-shot him. I lol'ed when im like, "ok first ill open up with starfire to get his health low" and he died right away lol

Kommentar von 197490

Actually, Renault was the oldest son of Mograine, he killed his father because he was jealous that his jounger brother Darion was always the favorite child, and that he, Renault, always had to look after him and get blamed by his father if something were to happen to him.

Kommentar von IbFeeshin

I'd like to note for you 80's running lower level friends, this is BY FAR the best boss to shoot for, As an 80 demo lock with 8k shadow bolts, I ran a level 30 friend through here, after pulling boss and immolation aura-ing all the adds, he was up 12 bars. Considering the whole instance took maybe 8 minutes, that's about 4 and a half levels an hour, well worth it no doubt.

Kommentar von matterman

is this Highlord Darian Morgraine the Commander of the Ebon Blade Death Knights?

Kommentar von 258919

Two-teamed the encounter as a 36 BM hunter with turtle pet and a 44 paladin.

The paladin tanked Mograine until he died, and Whitemane until the sleep. Then, I used my turtle to tank Mograine while the paladin took out Whitemane, then finished off Mograine.

Kommentar von 261828

may i know his Tabard please...

Kommentar von maeltum

I am confused at the family relations between all the Mograines. Can some explain it all?

Kommentar von Rankkor

sure.

first off there is Mograine Senior, AKA papa mograine.

this guy is the main and most powerfull mograine there is.

to make a long story short he had in his posession a cristal made of pure darkness, after he and his companions tried to purge the darkness within the cristal, it absorbed the light becoming a radiant piece of healing purifying light.

from that cristal a sword was made, it was called the ashbringer, and it was given to Mograine Senior, wich his first name is Alexander mograine.

he was invincible, thousand upon thousand of undeads would leap and him, but as he wielded the sword his enemy would be reduced to only ashes (hence his nickname Ashbringer).

he had 2 sons, the older son Renault Mograine, and his younger son Darion Mograine.

the older one, renault was jealous of his father, and in the end he betrayed his father, he lured his father into an ambush of undead, the father fought, and won, but was exausted, since he was tired, he droped the sword to the ground, and then renault made his move, stabing the father on the chest wiht the blade.

by doing this, the boy damned his father, himself, and the blade.

since the blade was used to comit a dishonorable deed, it became the corrupted ashbringer, and the dead father was resurrected as a Death Knight by Kel'tuzad.

and so, renault stayed in the scarlet monastery, and the dead father serving his former enemy on the Pre-burning crusade Naxxramas.

all the way till Wrath of the lich king.

on that expantion, Darion Mograine the younger son, invaded naxxramas wiht the argent dawn, fought against his undead father, and retrieved the blade, then he took it to the scarlet monastery, were the ghost of Mograine Senior took his revenge on his treacherus son.

however, Darion wanted more, he wanted to redeem his father, and remove the taint of undead and damnation he had on himself, so he did the unthinkable, he stabed himself with the blade, hoping that whatever curse gripped his father would be passed on to him.

this backfired, Mograine Senior was released yes, but Darion Mograine was transformed into a death knight in the service of the lich king.

untill the events at the scarlet enclave, it is here were Darion Mograine once again does the right thing, he uses the blade for an honorable purpose once more, trowing it at Tirion Fordring to save him from the lich king.

this act of selflessness was all that was needed to cleanse the blade, and to repay his kindness tirion healed Darion, and allowed him a place next to him as well as his knights of the ebon blade.

and so, the last of the mograines lives on, carrying on the curse started by his older brother, passed on to his father, and now an undeletable part of himself.

only time will tell if Darion will ever be free of the Curse of the Death knights, or if he will ever find a place on a world that resents and hates his kind.

(Edit: thanks rachum, I've already corrected it ^^ )

Kommentar von 445356

This has nothing to do with the fight or his drops, but if anyone was wondering, this is the same person as this: One of the The Lich King's Right Hand Men. Thats right, he sued to work for the Scarlet Crusade, which are now the people that the Lich King wants to murder...
Read more about him here: http://www.wowwiki.com/Darion_Mograine

Kommentar von Taedirk

Hyperion Pauldrons, Imposing Bandana and Tabard of the Scarlet Crusade make a decent start to replicating Mograine's gear if you're in to such things. The whole Hyperion Set (sans breastplate and helm) have a similar look to the redish colors of hands, gloves and shoulders and would make a great Scarlet Crusader set.

Kommentar von 115678

Solo'd this instance and boss encounter as Level 42-43 Ret Pally (43 for this last boss encounter). Just take the time to confirm all mobs are dead before starting boss fight, and FF Whitemane when both bosses are up. Also on one attempt, a third NPC (healer) can to aid the bosses so I would recommend cc'ing it if possible or taking him out first if present.

Kommentar von Grimtongue

Mind Soothe will pull him.

Kommentar von 612955

So this guy killed his dad so he can become some kind of "level 39 main boss"

Oh come on !

Kommentar von 798383

this crappy guy killed his father or "the ashbringer" because he obviously favored darion because he reminded him of his dead wife. but he might have killed him because he wanted to be the next "ashbringer". if you kill the current wielder of the ashbringer with his sword you will become the next, but the sword has to except you as well, and it didn't then he went insane from a hidden demon and helped corrupted the scarlet crusade. i believe that is why he is the final boss in the scarlet monastery.

Kommentar von Frostshamadin

hatcha!

Kommentar von Murdyr

Renault Mograine (Scarlet Commander Mograine) and Sally Whitemane (High Inquisitor Whitemane) can be found, reinacting the ressurection scene, which takes place in the encounter, after you've killed Scarlet Commander Mograine, in Old Hilsbrad Foorhills, Southshore.

Kommentar von Thottbot

Do NOT kill the chick before she can revive Mograine, then the fights over and you can't loot Mograine...plus you get stuck in combat.

Kommentar von Thottbot

True .. dont kill her or he wont drop a thing.. .but .. you do not get stuck in combat! If that person got stuck in combat its not consistent. I killed her before she could rezz him and our party was not stuck in combat.

Kommentar von Thottbot

Whitemane (the "chick") will start to rez Mograine at just under 50% health. She will put everyone to sleep then heal herself full. My hubby and I were duoing her (2 level 46 shammys) and apparently Windfury went a little crazy. She died before she even rezzed him - It was great! She dropped 2 blue items that time: 1 BoP and 1 BoE. I thought that was because we killed her and were chinced on the loot from him, but we got 2 other blue BoE items that run, in just the cathedral. Guess it was our lucky instance :)

Kommentar von Thottbot

The drop list includes some epics, has anyone ever seen epics drop?

Kommentar von Thottbot

it took me about 12 boring runs of SM cath, asking all my lvl 60 friends, owing them favours....i have a mograines might!

Kommentar von Thottbot

This thing rules it beats Verigan's Fist by an ass-load

Kommentar von Thottbot

Has anyone else had trouble with this fight since 1.11?

Every time I've gone in there with a group recently, the mobs in the Cathedral start to respawn soon after Whitemane rezzes Mograine. We're clearing them out FAST too, right after we kill one group we're pulling the next without even waiting for people to get mana back. Not wasting a lot of time explaining the fight to people.

No extra delays at all clearing the Cathedral, and yet EVERY time we've wiped. We can manage to kill off Whitemane, but then we end up with 2-3 respawns aggroing on us, healing Mograine, and we die.

WTF?

Kommentar von Thottbot

I have ran my 60 through there about 4 times in the past 2 days. No problems with respawns in the cathedral.

Kommentar von Thottbot

I didnt have a problem i did it and no respawns...

Kommentar von Thottbot

A 60 pally solod this dungeon easy plus Mograin and i didnt have a problem when i went to kill him no respawn for me.

Kommentar von Thottbot

Mograine is the son of Ashbringer Mograine, the creater of SC and the undead slayer. He was betrayed and murdered by his own son who now commands Scarlet monastry. enjoy killing.

Kommentar von Thottbot

Actually you get to meet the father Mograine in Naxxramas now =] one of the last bosses in the Death Knight wing. If you kill him last, he drops Corrupted Ashbringer (uber sword but the -25 stamina kinda makes it bad for tanking) which leads up to a "secret" quest that lets you talk to the son and watch a cool event in which mograine's ghost talks to his son and revenges him.

Kommentar von Thottbot

Mograine would easily solo Herod. A level 40 pally can solo herod without a problem. Every time he gets attacked he uses that bladed of light and spins round. This is where you heal yourself if you are low. In mograines case, he also bubbles himself so he wouldnt lose against a non healer unless herod could silence.

Kommentar von Thottbot

I got the mace very good although ravager is much better

Kommentar von Thottbot

A weapon of unmatched power that was created by the Archmage Timolain. It is unknown if the blade had a name before coming into the possession of the Highlord of the Scarlet Crusade, Mograine. Mograine's tenacity in battle was legendary even within the ranks of the fledgeling Scarlet Crusade, who at that time was a noble order. Those under his command coined the nickname "Ashbringer" as they watched him wade into ranks of foul undead wielding powerful Light-borne magic and leaving only ashes in his wake. Legend has it that Highlord Mograine was betrayed by his own son, Renault Morgraine, who had set up a deal with Kel'Thuzad which led to the assassination of his father, Highlord Mograine. The younger Morgraine led his father and High Inquisitor Fairbanks into the Scouge bastion of Stratholme. While thousands of Scourge ambushed the warriors, Renault Morgraine fled and hid. The Ashbringer fought off the Scourge, smiting them as fast as they came. But more came, thousands of Scourge in groups came. Fairbanks was the first to fall, but the Scourge ignored him, completely focused on killing Highlord Mograine. Highlord Morgraine fought off all the Scourge, Fairbanks feigning death and being buried beneath the bodies of the Scourge. Highlord Morgraine, after killing the remaining scourge, started to search for Fairbanks. While his back was turned, his son stole Ashbringer and stabbed his father in the back. "What have you done, Renault? Why would you do this?" were the last words of the Ashbringer, who fell down, dead. High Inquisitor Fairbanks broke through the bodies after two days. He ran back to the Scarlet Monastery, and started shouting out what had happened. He was murdered in cold blood and dragged to a chamber to die. But some people listened; thus was formed the Argent Dawn.
The Corrupted Ashbringer is found within the Chest of the Four Horseman in Naxxramas. If you equip the sword and go to the Cathedral at the Scarlet Monastery, every NPC will kneel to you until you get to Scarlet Commander Mograine. He will kneel to you, and then his father, Highlord Mograine, will appear as a ghost. He will walk up to his son and mock his betrayal, then kill him.
With the inclusion of the Caverns of Time instance, Old Hillsbrad, further insight can be gleaned on the origins of the Ashbringer by visiting the Inn at Southshore and witnessing the discussions of Mograine and his companions.

Part of this is article I cut out, Theres one part just to juicy to share.

Kommentar von Thottbot

i have been in lib and armory 2 times each, but not the whole graveyard... is it there i can find this mograine? i rly want bonebiter on my shammy.

server: burning blade pvp.
alliance
name: drashama

Kommentar von Thottbot

I keep getting good drops in here...The top three are:

1. Ravenger

2. Herod's Shoulders

3. Mograine's Gloves (dunno name)

Youll be seeing them on my tuaren Hunter soon on Dalaran (im lvl 34)

Kommentar von Thottbot

I had a group of three and easily went through cathrdral.

35 shaman- Healer (me)

36 rogue

42 pali

The pali was a great puller

Kommentar von Thottbot

Does someone know the armor he has on?

Kommentar von Thottbot

anybody wanna lend me a hand in running through this? i can never seem to get a group to go all the way :(
sever: Nathrezim
name: Cheesypoof
it would be greatly appreciated!

Kommentar von Thottbot

there are 4 instances and they are all very easy witha good group, or as i have been doing it, with a lvl 70 to help

Kommentar von Thottbot

i have been getting really unlucky with the gloves, the legs, the good items and all he has dropped for me is his mace over and over again.... :-(

im addicted to Sm and i will go thru whenever im on

pacosminion- lvl 31 enhancement shamman

stonemaul

I like chapel most, but armory is okay too.
i refuse to do Gy or lib.

Kommentar von Thottbot

Ok, this guy is in Scarlet Cathedral wing of Scarlet Monestary, the entrance on the left that needs a key to enter. Once you get out of the gardens and into the actually Cathedral, he is praying while there are tons of Scarlet Crusaders around. You have to kill EVERYTHING in the Cathedral before you pull him. If you just kill the guys leading to him, and pull him, when he yells, every other crusader in the building will charge at you along with him. Also, if you want, on the right side of the Cathedral, there is a room with a lantern in it. If you pull the lantern, you can open a secret room that has Fairbanks in it, who had been killed and his body hidden by members of the Scarlet Crusade when he told them that Mograine had killed his father. Anyways, once you kill Mograine the doors behind him will open and out will come High Inquisitor Whitemane. She's pissed off that you killed the Commander. She is a priest type person, and will cast mainly smite for damage. When she gets down to 1/3rd health I think it is, she will stun everyone in the group and run over to Mograine's body. She will then cast a spell that resurrects him. She then heals to full life. You then fight the two together. I think I would kill the High Inquisitor first, just because she has less life I think, and deals more damage with her spells. Just have someone off tank Mograine. When she dies take down Mograine. Dying hasn't made him stronger.

Congrats! You have completed Scarlet Monestary! Enjoy the hammer or shield that the Commander will drop, and the necklace or Clot Head piece that the Inquisitor will drop.

Kommentar von Thottbot

i just found this out, if someone else could try it that would be cool. i was soloing on my rogue for enchanting mats. after i killed mograine she rezed him, but instead of fighting i used vanish. she just disapeared and the door to her room closed. i then killed mograin again and i was able to loot him. but no whitemane body to loot. Just a neat trick i guess.

Kommentar von Thottbot

He is WAY easy now. Oh how I remember the days when he used to kick ass...

Kommentar von Thottbot

If you're a rogue and stealth to him and skip the peoples.. all of them will aggro. Just a warning :)

Kommentar von Thottbot

I've run SM:C so many times now with my guildie boosting my warrior alt, I have 2 Maces (only wanted one) and EVERY single other time it has been the damn legs.... Give me a damn shield and gauntlets!

Kommentar von Thottbot

QUESTION! is the girl that heals him his wife?

you may answer-NOW!

Kommentar von Thottbot

corspemaker is a lot better than mograines might.... just go to RFD and get one

Kommentar von Thottbot

Just Soloed this with my 54 BE Rogue, Killed Him then She rezed him and Killed her But Died b4 I could kill him again, When I ran back he'd despawned so I can't complete the quest.

He was Bugged coz he was Standing attacking me the whole time I was fighting her, even b4 she rezed him.

Kinda sucks after all the work to Clear the place, even a couple of them Respawned b4 I attacked the Boss, but I killed them 1st.

So! Quest abandoned, can't be bothered to do all that again just for the sake of completing an old quest.

PS I like to complete old quests that got left behind. Never seen the point of all those players that Grind for ages for a Specific Drop, the way I play and the drops from these Pre-TBC Instances are Obsolete by the time you level another 10 levels (5-7 days)

Kommentar von Thottbot

just tanked SM cath and just a quick note, he can be disarmed, and he does virtually no dmg when he is disarmed.

Kommentar von Thottbot

I have a lvl 51 rouge asasination/mutilate. does anybody think I could solo grave,cath,lib or arm?

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Yeah, this guys was one heck of problem for our group! 1st we never knew he will call all the guards inside the chapel to defend him, which was insane! 2nd time we came in we cleared up the chapel then tried killing him, DO NOT DRAG him out of the chapel, because he suppose to be res'd by priestess inside the chapel after u kill the commander... When we dragged him out and slain him, he just lay dead, but not dead, glitched... After we retried, and let the priestess res him, and fight both the commander and priestes... Kill priestess 1st, since she heals the commander, gl and hf with him guys, lol!

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Just killed him with my 40 lvl tauren warrior.Pretty easy.He didn`t had a chance.I killed him with logouts.When you logout and join again your health is full ;ppppp

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can a 60 hunter with maderat gear not t1 but stuff from scholo ubrs and strat i need to get the shards from the loot?

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solo'd with a 60 combat rogue. figured it was worth a try, i was farming SM for the mail set.

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This guy is a pain sometimes
After you kill him Whitemane comes out and after a few hits on her she stuns the party and goes and revives Mograin
But all in all
He drops well
For lower levels that is

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Please could we get everyone to use this forum to exchange info about mobs/stages/instances instead of posting brag-statements or likewise.

I was trying to find the exact repop time on the cathedral mobs, looks to me like its around 30 min, but the 2 times we where there to try and duo it (me, pally 44, druid 43), i didnt time it exaxtly.

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This is what I learned last night fighting this behemoth of a monster...

From a 1st time SM Armory Lv34 Lock's point of view...

1st - when he starts spinning, stay away...he'll kill ya. I lost 2 pet demons and a Compact Harvest Reaper to this thing. Our tank and others knew what they were doing and were wise enough to stay out of his spin range when he went bezerk.

2nd - When he's spinning - he's relatively immune to your DOTs...so wait until he stops spinning to DOT him. I was out of mana like crazy without realizing why. halfway though the battle, I noticed, ah, he's immune when he's spinning. So during his down times, I DOT'd him like mad and sent in a for added damage (not much...but every little bit helped).

3rd - I didn't even know he got rezzed...but apparently he does and did?

4th - As already mentioned, once he dies, two seperate groups of trainees come pouring out charging you...AOE helps but I guess the other players took care of them rather quickly.

Anyhow, just thought I'd share a few things I learned.

Fox

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I dont really know how to put it in the drops but when I fought him last night he dropped a nice shoulder piece and staff call Illusionary Rod. Wanted both so bad i needed them but the other warlock in my group got the shoulder...meany wont let me have my gear. He was actually really easy to kill. Put every dot on him I could then wanded him while my two paladins tore into him until my dots made him aggro me. Then I ran like hell till a pally pulled defense on me.

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I decided it would be good to go through Cathedral for my first time. All we had was lvl 35 warrior, 39 warrior, 40 priest, 45 hunter. Did we do good? Also i got Morograines might. Cant wait to use it. Hoping i get Fiery War Axe cause all im gonna do is run SM till im lvl 45. Hopefully ill get the axe before then.

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This guy is located in the armory. He uses a ravager amd when he does a bladestorm-like attack... he is immune( really annoying ). After you beat the stuffing out of this guy about 20-30 of his students come out( lvl 30 non-elites ) come out all at once and attack you.

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ran cath today. he dropped leggings and she dropped her hat. i was very disspaointed.

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woops... never mind. This is mograine. LOL my mistake. Mograine is located in the Cathedral. AFter u slaughter him, Whitemane comes out. AFter you attack her enough until she has half health...she makes everyone fall asleep and then ressurects Mograine so you basically kill him twice.

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Highlord Mograine is one of the four horsemen in Naxxramas if anybody is interested.

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lol our warlock lvl 60 dotted the priest up and we couldnt loot this guy because she died before ressing :DASD

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It took me about 2 hours in the Cath to solo it with my 49 Hunter.

So you hunters out there give it a try! Its fun and challenging. My guildmates were telling me it was impossible at 49 and they weren't able to do it till about 55+. That was enough motivation to figure out how to do it! Have fun.

Edited, Sep 5th 2006 at 6:56pm EDT by RaziAlaster

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iv just run cath twice in as many days and i cant get either the sheild or gloves. i really want da sheild though and knock on wood, but id say the odds are im my favor

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this guy also drops dazzling longsword if you have a odd group with you, it dropped when the party was paladin,paladin,paladin,paladin,hunter tobad i couldn't win it hehe.. i was the hunter.

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Easyish to solo with lvl 60 dagger rogue, I'm prep build and usually use two Evasions so I'm on over half hp after the fight.
Died only once, when Herod suddenly hit me for over 1k crit.

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I tried to solo SM Cathedral with my 60 mage. It was pretty easy (but rather slow) until I reached Mograine. Obviously I kill him (This uses > half of my mana pool) and then he dies, and the priest comes out and start smiting me. I get her down to half (0 mana now) and she ressurects Mograine and then the two of them always kill me. Any advice on how to solo this guy, mages?

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WTF &*!@ LEVEL 263 USSUALLY ONLY HIGH LORD KRUUL, ONYXIA, AND THE HIGH LORDS OF THE CITYS HAVE THAT LEVEL BUT THOSE THAT I JUST SAID ARE ALL LEVEL 500:D

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we did it 44lvl warrior and 41lvl paladin
2 people, who can do it solo ? :-)

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what part of scarlet monestary is he in, armory, graveyard, library, or the cathedral?

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can a 60 hunter with maderat gear not t1 but stuff from scholo ubrs and strat i need to get the shards from the loot?

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This is another fun fight. As with the previous boss from the third instance this was completed with the group I used there, we just all got a couple levels ^^ 42 warrior 38 shaman 38 rogue 38 warlock and 36 shaman. You need to clear everything past "the door" before you engage this boss. There are side rooms as well. Clear everything or you will wipe. The fight with this guy is not unlike a normal fight with a Myrm. Just kill him fast and save mana. Once he dies the other 2/3 of the fight begin.

We did this, and won, on the first attempt. Upon his death the final named mob needed for the quest spawns. She will sleep the entire party after a short while. She then calls upon the dead to join her in battle ^^ This is where it got interesting. In any case, we killed her and her new companion, and this quest is over! It's not to bad. Just use teamwork!

Good luck!

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Here's a tip. Don't mess up.

We tried to 2 man it, cleared chapel and got to the final fight. Killed Mograine, got him rezzed, killed Whitemane, and then we died to the add of a weird roaming spawn (lv40 champion - never seen this before).

Went back in the instance and he was gone.

But 4 roamers were spawned in the chapel, never seen this before either. As far as I can tell these are not respawns since I don't remember seeing any lv40 champions that wandered the whole perimeter of the chapel.

On top of this, there is a resetting timer now.

Can't run out and run back in with a reformed group.

There are also no more chests. Not even in the room Whitemane comes out of. This is apparently due to the fact that rogues were stealthing in to take the chests and resetting the instance over and over.

Hurray for undocumented "improvements".

Edited, Thu Mar 24 08:51:17 2005

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sadly this has beeen patched over but in older patches the doors to Whitemane were always open... Hunters run in FD in her room and close doors, then kill her and mograine dies easy

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For those who are saying his maximum potential level is too high, have any of you been to Naxx? Look up Highlord Mograine. ^_^

Highlord Mograine
The Ashbringer
Level ? Undead (Boss)

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46 hunter... Soloed everything before this, but I cleared a path to M and attempted to attack him since he looked nice and alone. ;_; Suddenly everyone in the cathedral swarms in and just beats my pet to death, although I happily managed to feign death (it worked for once!) in time to avoid serious damage.

Next time, I'm bringing a buddy. :/

If you have a small group, though, it really helps to shoot each little group one at a time and run out of the cathedral and take care of them there, assuming you got rid of the wizards out front. :)

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we did this part with a priest (44) lock (41) mage (43) and me hunter (40).
tank left just before we were near the entrance of the gate. Lazy enough to not search for a new tank and let our pets (lock pet and my pet) tank the whole instance.
and it worked just fine! even Mograine was a piece of cake O+

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Went in with a pickup group all of us needed the "in the name of the light quest" the group rocked we did all of it very easily and we were all 39. Mograine's Might dropped and got it cant wait to use! Looks awesome and is a huge upgrade. + now i can get the sword from the quest instead which is also a HUGE upgrade from my 18dps 1hander i had. PALLY POWER!

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take me zannza threw it and ill keep the fing preist dead i hate that bicth and yes lvl 60 hunters can solo this my lvl 60 freind just ran me threw it last night i got to small raident shards with disencanting the blues that wernt any use to use so sugestion u could proble solo this with a lvl 50 hunter and a turtul and dps pets arent teh best my rouge at lvl 35 does more dps

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You read the title. Clear absolutely EVERYTHING before fighting him. If you don't any remaining mobs in the cathedral (only inside the building) will come and aid him. It will be hell if you leave a few mobs so clear it all! :)

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I did SM yesterday for the frist time ever with my lvl 70 mate :P (Dhunter is his name, bloody legend he is) anyway the loot in there was fantastic i go there every so often like 3 times a week now and i earn up to 5g per run (thats just in onr place not the whole thing) and i think its great like the fact that grey items sell for like 48s to a vendor and you get 5 or 6 a run its great for xp and loot i highley reccomend doing SM as soon as you can !

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you must kill EVERYONE inside the building before starting to fight mograine, or they will come and enter the fight and your group will wipe.

you fight mograine and you kill him. whitemane comes out and starts fighting for a bit, then sleeps everyone and resurrects mograine. kill whitemane first because she heals, then kill mograine. it's an easy fight (probably because of all the killing you have to do before), and everything they drop is kickass.

Edited, Apr 4th 2007 4:50am by Slashr

Edited, Apr 4th 2007 5:00am by Slashr

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was running a friend when this droped Harbinger Boots

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We had a group of 3, shaman, warlock, and rogue (all 41). We meticulously pulled 1-3 at a time from the cathedral until we were left with Mograine. You would think all is clear and go right for Mograine, nope. We waited for the roaming guards to respawn, 4 total (random spawns could be any type 37-40).

Step one: Take down Mograine at a somewhat fast rate. Only used about a third of our mana. You could pull him near the door but not outside. That will give you a second or so more time later.

Step two: Whitemane appears through the doors behind the altar. Take her down to half health, don't try to kill her unless you know you can do so in seconds. She sleeps everyone to go res Mograine. FYI neither can be feared, charmed, or taunted.

Step three: Had shaman occupy Mograine while warlock (with felhunter) and rogue took out Whitemane as fast as possible. We had plenty of health and mana left to finish off Mograine.

We are fairly good players in our group and our talents are designed specifically for this group configuration. This is a definite advantage to a pickup group.

Edited, Sun May 29 09:29:07 2005

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