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评论来自 Shaan

very nice LotR reference :)
'There and back again' is the title of the book Bilbo starts and Frodo continues, then gives to Samwise at the end of the story.

fun quest as well.

this quest is the opener for the daily ram racing quests, it being repeatable forever is a bug that has been hotfixed and is now repeatable on a12 hours delay (not daily quest).

评论来自 37471

Do not accept the follow up while shapeshifted. I was unable to complete the quest after talking to him in shapeshift form. It gave me the standard "Unable to mount while shapeshifted" error.

评论来自 Eversion

My personal record is 10 kegs now. I don't think you can get more than 11. At the very max 12 kegs,
so around 60 tickets a day.

评论来自 Isherie

My max is around 33 tickets, 11 kegs.

I followed the guide on WoW Wiki: http://www.wowwiki.com/Brewfest#Racing_Ram_Tips and it works great:

"A tip for quick, easy course changes: once you get your ram pointed on a clear straight path to an apple barrel or keg pick-up or drop-off point, rotate your camera to face the direction you'll want to travel after getting there. That way, when you reach your destination, you can press the right mouse button to change your heading instantly and accurately. The rams are always running, but the game still keeps track of whether your character is in run or stand mode. If you are in run mode many peoples' camera swings to face forward. You can just press your key bound to turn off movement. Your ram will still be running, but your camera will stay in place as if you were standing still."

In a nutshell...as you're running toward one of the NPCs, press and hold your left mouse button to turn your camera around. Then, as soon as you either have a keg or have delivered one (or you get close enough to the NPC to trigger the action) press your right mouse button while still holding the left button and you will immediately swivel around.

I practiced a bit using auto-run before trying it out. Works great and I'm able to max out the keg delivery each time. Ram mount here I come! :D

评论来自 shkm

I made a 12 keg video for running the repeatable, hopefully it'll be useful to a few people: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-fY7H0-X4k

While I'm at it, here's the list of pointers posted in the video's description:

Always stay in a gallop.
Take your time around the apple bushels, they're very easy to miss if you just speed past them.
Make sure you get the kegs; if you don't, go back to the last apple bushel and try again. *Do not* turn around before going back to the bushel as you'll just end up fatigued.
Bind your reins to a convenient button like C or V.
Do not turn with your keyboard. Common sense to some, unthinkable to others; I'd think it's like piloting a fighter jet with a steering wheel.
Have fun with your ram, but remember that drink riding kills.

评论来自 Tsuken

Good thing to do at the pickup/dropoff locations is to jump far enough to pick up/drop off a keg, while turning 180 degrees with the right mouse button so you can take off in the opposite direction right away.

评论来自 10100_

Please note:

You'd think this would be obvious, but I goofed it up good...

You MUST have room in your inventory to receive a portable keg in the repeatable quest. If you do not have room, you will not get the keg, you will not turn on in on return, and you will not get the time extension. It took me about 3-4 passes before I finally realized it...

*Headdesk*

评论来自 Cyprin

This quest can be done on your normal ground mount, you don't have to use the ram.

评论来自 217507

The ram racing is definitely repeatable, however it does not appear to be on a 12 hour timer any more. I believe it resets at the same time as normal dailies. Also, it's not a "quest" per se, so you won't be able to view or reset it from your quest log -- you'll have to wait until it resets on its own.

As for the quest, one of the barrels has been moved, so the old vids & path are not as useful. Instead, go from the start point to the middle apple barrel, then directly to the end barrel. At the end barrel you will probably catch the brew, if not veer closer to the NPC to make sure you catch it. Head directly back toward the middle barrel, then continue straight to the quest starter NPC. If you are able to catch the keg from him with 45 or less fatigue turn directly around & go back to the middle apple barrel. If you lag a bit & don't catch the keg (& get your 2 tokens) fast enough, go behind the tent to reset your fatigue and then continue with the circuit, repeating the above steps.

I was able to get 18 tokens easily following this method. 20 should be fairly do-able if you don't have to go behind the tent. 22 maybe if you are perfect on your turns. Any more than that...well good luck!

评论来自 191067

Blizzard removed the ability to stop while on the ram by pressing back this year, so you now have to get off the ram to actually stop. Last year I would press back for a split second at each apple barrel to make sure my stamina refreshed. This isn't an option this year. Either run into the barrel or take the long way around it to make sure that you don't run out of stamina.

评论来自 196618

One thing to note that has caused some confusion.

When you originally get this quest, Ram Master Ray is marked with a yellow "quest" exclamation point.

The first time you do this quest you get 10 Brewfest Prize Tokens for delivering 3 Kegs.

When I went back after 12 hours to get the quest again there was no Blue Daily "quest mark" so I assumed that the Cool Down on the quest was not up yet. I then found out that Ram Master Ray does not get the Blue Daily "quest mark" and that you just have to talk to him in order to get the quest.

So even though it looks like there is not a quest for you to do, just talk to Ram Master Ray after the quest Cool Down and you can pick the quest up again.

Also, Each additional time you quest after the first time, the Brewfest Prize Token reward changes. for all follow-up Keg runs the reward will be 2 Tokens per Keg delivered for the duration of the quest.

Hope this clears up some confusion I had read in General Chat and seen on forums.

评论来自 440859

I don't think this quest is on a 12 hour cool down. I did the quest at 18:00 but I couldn't do it 12 hours later again.The Ram master a a mask on his face when you cannot do the quest. When the mask goes away you can do the quest again. I don't know how often that happens.

评论来自 h0lyshadow

I've figured out that the best trick not miss the fatigue-refresh thing is to use the Spacebar and Jump through the apple bushels, it will give you a 100% chance to reset fatigue careless your latency problems.

Happy farming daily to all (while drinking some beerZ!)

评论来自 270430

Strange noone has mentioned the Run DMC reference. Ram Master Ray= Jam Master Jay, tragically shot dead in his studio in 2002.

评论来自 Crystallyne

Is it just me or did the Horde get the short end of the stick with the keg runs? I have a really hard time doing them, and can only get 9. (I just read some of the tips here, and may see if I can get up to 12, but as of writing this the most I've ever gotten were 9 runs, for 18 tokens.)

But alliance side I have gotten up to 17 runs completed! 34 tokens, compared to only 18 tokens!

This has made me a really sad panda whenever the time comes for me to do my horde alts' keg runs. :(

评论来自 Ackeburning

Cata - NPC has been moved
Do not trust the broken Quest-Text :)

The NPC is at "50:13", just ride down to the coast - Bladefist Bay
That's outside of Orgrimmar, where in the past the zeppelin location to UC/Strangle was positioned

评论来自 ligizt

They moved the NPC that gives you the kegs to a place close to the boat where you go to Vashj'ir Landing the first time.

评论来自 176716

you can do this quest on your flying mount! simply dismount the ram and hop on your mount, makes it a lot faster, sure they'll hotfix it though

评论来自 mjinsane

Confirmed, you can fly on your mount :D or use flight form if you're a Druid :p If you're in a group you get credit for someone else delivering also.

评论来自 Termak

The new horde riding path is filled with all kinds of sharp items and corners to get stuck into, got 9 barrels just running casually with couple minor fails but almost fulltime galloping, havent tried how many i could get on allychar, but the allyroute is way smoother and straight.

评论来自 Kytsos

New location of goblin is at 50.13.

评论来自 sJEFdeGlyve

Since now you can find the goblin 50.6 / 13.5

You can check it : http://i55.tinypic.com/2cx7rb6.png

评论来自 AznNoProblem

inb4hotfix...

You can dismount off that ram and do this quest on your flying mount and lolololol

评论来自 360683

Ok, this annoyed me, Blizz havent updated text details in the quest, the goblin is on the road to the docks just outside org, about half way between main gate and Bladefist bay.

评论来自 851942

Despite what the quest says, the NPC that gives you the booze is actually on the road east of org, which doesn't even go to Razor hill. Logic! It's like a cruel joke to make you run around like an idiot expecting him to be on the wrong road.

评论来自 Misy

The bug has been fixed during server restarts. Also the npc is NOT on the way to Razor Hills, as the q description says, it's on the way to East, by the sea, where the ships are also.
You don't have to follow the road btw, go to your right as you take the q, through the little camp with orcs and archers, its shorter and it also has a barrel of apples.

评论来自 Beltane

The quest giver (赛羊管理员雷恩) is at 42.6, 17.8.
The guy that gives you the kegs (波克·多瑟坦) is now along the path to the East, at 50.6, 13.5.
There are four fruit baskets, shown on this map. The first is next to the quest giver and the last is next to the keg giver.
As of today you can get off your ram and just fly there and back, making the quest a lot quicker. You have to stay mounted for the follow-up daily though, as you don't actually get a quest; as soon as you dismount the event/quest is over
The daily lasts 4 minutes as a base, with 30 seconds added on for each successful keg handed in. Each keg also grants 2 美酒节奖币s when handed in. The first time I did it I handed in 8 kegs (approximately 1 per minute as 30 seconds are added on each time) granting 16 tokens; 9 kegs is easily doable but I had some (I assume latency related) issues with the baskets resetting stacks.

评论来自 163020

Bugged in 2011. The text sends you elsewhere.

Also the follow up pisses me off since if you don't know the event beforehand, you are 80% of losing the tokens since there is no much confirmation that if you dismount immediately you lost all your chance for that daily.

评论来自 murzoo90

I just did this on my flying mount!

评论来自 Stevenskii

It seems that the follow up has become easier than it used to be. I only recall being able to get 6 kegs last year where this year I got 9-10 of them. However, the route is much more difficult now.

评论来自 shadowboy813

As of 2011 Brewfest, I did this quest and found that if you right click off the ram buff, fly on your normal flying mount, the goblin will still toss you the keg and you can still return them (the goblin near bladefist bay, NOT on the road to razorhill--the quest text is outdated). Flying at 310% allows you to finish this quest much faster.

评论来自 498472

波克·多瑟坦 location is 50,13 outside Orgrimmar, he will give you the kegs.
Once you have exited org entrance head left and you'll see banners.
You dont need to be on the ram to collect the kegs.

评论来自 lifeslowlydies

The goblin for this quest is located on the way to Bladefist Bay. The goblin is not on the way to Razor Hill like the quest says. Run passed orgrimmar and go start towards the port, you shall the goblin. Also for the original quest you can use your flying mount, however, for the daily you must use the ram.

评论来自 139736

Not sure who else may have had this issue, but if you click the reigns too quick upon mounting on the ram, it will actually dismount you.

Had this happen on the quest (which I dropped and could pick up again), but I lost the daily because of this glitch.

评论来自 drakobg

It seems there may be is a bug. If you use the Ram Racing Reins too early the ram didn't appear and you are not able to finish the quest. You can abandon it and try again. Unfortunately this isn't working for the repeatable one :(

评论来自 scottiegazelle

For some reason I had a hard time getting him to throw me a keg. Finally realized you have to be running (trotting, etc), not just walking.

评论来自 834224

I really want to know how this is considered "the road to Razor Hill". From where? Undercity?

评论来自 712374

Am I the only one who thinks this "quest" bugs sometimes and the mount simply refuses to eat the apples from the barrels?

Even if I run towards a barrel for good long time it won't always eat it and the Exhaustion counter doesn't reset.

评论来自 139053

Dunno if its a bug, But I dismissed my ram then jumped on my Flying mount and was able to get keg and finish the quest that way!

I'm a Druid on Horde side

评论来自 Thundermoose

I had a very, very annoying bug on the daily that I didn't have the previous years.

I'm used to the ram rarely not eating at some of the buckets, and while annoying it's understandable considering I'm just blazing by it (even though I always make sure to touch the bucket to try and avoid it).

What's not understandable is to arrive at the goblin midways through the quest and him simply refusing to throw me a keg. aprox. 1 min 20 seconds did I spend running around him, through and at him before he finally decided to throw it..

I was the only person there and it's not my internet.

Not the end of the world, but hairpullingly annoying none the less.

评论来自 867273

Definitely just did this quest in Druid bird form. Got on a ram and hit flight form and was able to do the quest. Pretty sure this is a glitch.

评论来自 697870

For anyone who wants to see the fastest route for There and Back Again for Brewfest 2011, here is a video I uploaded to youtube of it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlYWapatbPk

评论来自 Jimmybob117

Theres a much easier way to complete this quest, wether it is a bug or not I do not know.

Accept the quest, and then get rid of the Ram buff. Simply then mount up and fly over to Bok Dropcertain and he will chuck you keg as usual.

Makes doing the quest a lot easier and quicker.

评论来自 borderlad

"...had an accident on his way from Razor Hill." Must have been some accident! It threw him pretty far from anywhere you might go if you read the quest text.

Stupid and not-fun, having the quest text send you in the wrong direction.

评论来自 875440

It says "on the road to Razor Hill" because that's where he used to be, but they just didnt update the quest text to say hes on the docks road.

评论来自 Vindictae

Quite frankly, I did this on my alliance Worgen, and their route is fast, almost dead straight and simple.
Whoever came up with this one needs to have their head examined.

评论来自 82001

This quest looks bugged. Looking for Bok and without the ram i got the keg. I delivered it three times and got quest completed. No ram, no time, Easy money... err... easy tokens.

评论来自 Thottbot

If you get this quest run to Bok Dropcertain (Blizz their naming humor ftw!) @ Durotar -> 48,26 and then race back asap. He looks like this:
http://undercity.wyrihaximus.net/10.07.07.22.23.48.jpg
See big version

评论来自 Thottbot

Theres a problem... After doing this quest, I can do it again for 3 prize tickets per barrel run. Accepting it didnt put any quest in my quest log.

After doing a few runs, I missed feeding my ram twice and he got tired and slowed down. I dismounted my ram by right click on the debuff and now I cant get him back.

Neither Driz Tumblequick nor Ram master ray would give me another ram and theres no quest to abandon to be able to do this run again.

Anyone have any clues? Ask a GM perhaps?

-- TKMantis

评论来自 Thottbot

After you have completed the quest to learn how to trot and what not and the 3 run quest, you can then have a ram for 4 min to make as many runs as you can to earn 3 tickets per run. You have to be perfect on keeping your mount fed and not getting exhausted, otherwise his speed drops nearly to reverse and you lose precious time to earn tickets. If you are seeking this ram riding mount off the 600 ticket turn in then you can simply complete the daily ram racing event and also shout out one of the local brewers events each day for roughly 70 tickets a day. Completing these each day you have sufficient time to collect the 600 needed. Happy trails!

评论来自 Thottbot

You don't really have to go all the way to Razor Hill :P And to go fast for all three trips, there are what looks like a few Bowls with flames on the way, you touch one it gives you a boost. I never slowed down once with this method. You just have to get near the gnome and he'll throw a barrel at you (so don't worry if you think you missed him, the reaction just seems slow).

评论来自 Vikomt

Is this quest reperable?

评论来自 howa003

This quest IS REPEATABLE on TBC Classic. However, the quest is "hidden" under a talk option with the NPC. DO NOT BE FOOLED BY NO BLUE EXLAMATION MARK ABOVE THE NPC.

in the repeatable quest, after you click the dialog, you are given the task of receiving and delivering as many kegs of brew as you can from one point to another during the duration of the mount that is lent to you.
- The ram is available for 4 minutes and you control its speed using the Ram Racing Reins as explained above.
- Each time you deliver a keg, you are awarded 2 Prize Tokens and the duration of your ram mount is extended by 30 seconds.
- You can reset the fatigue meter by running next to barrels of apples in your ram's path. There are three apple barrels along the route (one near quest giver, one near barrel thrower, and one half-way). You must pass very closely (I usually ram into them). You will see a red flash and your Fatigue meter will reset to 0. You can run both loops at a full gallop without hitting Ram Exhaustion if you're careful to hit every apple barrel on the course.

All of the repeatable quests in the Brewfest event are listed below:
(a) This One Time, When I Was Drunk...,
(b)There and Back Again,
(c) Bark for Drohn's Distillery! or Bark for T'chali's Voodoo Brewery!.

链接

[There and Back Again]

[Get a keg from the goblin stranded on the road to Bladefist Bay and return it to Ram Master Ray's assistant. Do this 3 times before your ram goes away.]

	[Kegs Delivered] （3）

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	赛羊缰绳（1）

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[Am I glad you're here. We are in big trouble! The goblin that was supposed to be bringing us more brew had an accident on his way from Bladefist Bay. You gotta get us that brew!

I'll put you on one of my racing rams and you follow the road to Bladefist Bay.

Once you get near him he'll toss you a keg, then you run the keg back here and toss the keg to my more capable assistant. For now, all we want are 3 kegs. Do a good job and maybe we'll have another job for you.]

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	Dismount Ram - Quest

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完成任务后，你将获得：

输入以下代码查看此任务是否已完成

/run print(C_QuestLog.IsQuestFlaggedCompleted(11412))

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