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评论来自 Shaan

very nice LotR reference :)
'There and back again' is the title of the book Bilbo starts and Frodo continues, then gives to Samwise at the end of the story.

fun quest as well.

this quest is the opener for the daily ram racing quests, it being repeatable forever is a bug that has been hotfixed and is now repeatable on a12 hours delay (not daily quest).

评论来自 11002

You don't have to talk to the guys when picking up or delivering, you just ride by them and they give you credit. Flynn is near the Inn, and has a ^ over his head. go near him and you'll get your keg. Then ride back to where you got the quest from. And repeat.

评论来自 65908

You can complete this with your normal mount too, don't know if it's intended or not. Accidentally clicked some beer in my inventory instead of the reins and got dismounted, still could pick up and return the kegs and thus complete the quest without the ram.

评论来自 Sentient

Best route is:
Beer Tents -> Apple Barrel at crossroad ->Flynn at Karanos -> Keep riding past him about 20 feet to an apple barrel near a flag. -> Apple Barrel at crossroad -> Beer Tents

Doing this you should be able to stay at a gallop and complete at least 9 runs for 27 tickets.. if you are perfect you might be able to do 10 runs for 30 tickets, but I usually hit some lag (or have to wait for an apple barrel to proc).

评论来自 Joroesan

Edit:
This post is now outdated, with the latest Brewfest event they added a new apple bucket and you may now go full gallop the entire way without hitting the first or last apple bucket to maximize efficiency.

On Alliance side I can max out at 51 tickets, 17 trips.

Basically I start out as far away from the quest giver as I can while facing the direction I'm going to go with the Ram Racing Reins bound to a key so I can spam it easily while moving with my mouse for direction. I spam the Ram Racing Reins to keep a gallop all the way to the apple barrel by the bridge (it will reset without you having to stop) and over the small hill and then right as I go over the hill I stop pressing my key binding. When I reach the tiny stone wall on the ground by the road I turn around (he throws the keg even if I don't go all the way to him). When I reach the hill again on my way back I will begin to canter automatically since I haven't been spamming my keybinding. I canter all the way back to the apple barrel by the bridge, usually pressing the key binding for the Ram Racing Reins periodically to slowly swap between gallop and canter, just enough not to get exhausted. When I reach the apple barrel I start spamming my Ram Racing Reins again to gallop all the way back and repeat.

(start) ->
apple barrel by bridge -> over hill (stop using reins) -> turn around at stone wall -> over hill (begins canter) -> apple barrel by bridge -> turn in turn around and repeat

It took a while to get used to, but this is faster than galloping between all the apple barrels. I used my bank alts to practice with. Before I reached around 30 tickets galloping the entire way, but this way it is possible to get around 50. Another good trick to shave a tad more time off of the trips is that when you are about to turn around; adjust the camera so you can see behind your character with your left mouse button, then turn around suddenly by clicking your right mouse button behind you. This should make you do a complete 180 without missing a step or wasting time moving in a half-circle. Although I cannot prove it, seems to me that the Riding Crop works on the Brewfest mount too.

评论来自 196248

i did it on my mont as well... not sure if this is nothing special, not quite sure how i did it either

评论来自 217368

i did the ram raicing quest, and after that i "voluntary" helped out, by running back and forward with the kegs for 2 tokens per keg. however, i havent been able to do that again, and its been more that 12 hours. did they change it to 24 hours this year, anyone know?

评论来自 ArgentSun

You also get ~30 bonus seconds for every keg you "turn in".

Brewfest '08

评论来自 118172

my best attempt so far is 20 turnins, that means 40 tokens

I use 2x apple checkpoints to deliver the keg, and 1x to get to the keg :)

评论来自 FuzyLogick

So how far can you make him chuck the barrel before you catch it?My best is the apple barrel by the bridge on my return trip.

If you cut around right after you cross the path in front of the building you can save yourself ALOT of time and get more runs in. I submitted a screen shot so you can see it

评论来自 bumba

Well, the timer's irrelevent. You can dismiss the ram, mount up and still complete the quest after the 4 minutes. I dont think its faster per se, but beats spamming a button the whole time

评论来自 212801

Actually there are two references here, the Lord of the Rings "There and Back Again" Bilbo's book, and Neill Ramstein , is named after the popular German industrial metal band, Rammstein.

评论来自 216334

IT TURNS OUT U DONT EVEN NEED A MOUNT TO FINISH THIS QUEST

评论来自 113229

"...a hobbit's tale, by Bilbo Baggins!"

评论来自 458985

Hey, I read that you could do the daily version every 12 hours but that is not so. I know this as I have been stood now waiting for 4 hours to do it the second time lol

Anyone else have this problem?, I have asked others and was told that ya can only do it once a day when the dailies have reset and not every 12 hours. Hmmm gonna take me a good while to get the 460+ tokens for achievement :(

评论来自 Jadsia

Well, I don't remember doing this quest since reset and I was told about the 12 hr thing and it doesn't work. Any idea if we'll be able to do this quest multiple times?

评论来自 313854

To me it seems that after 12 hours i still can't get the quest. Guess ill have to wait 18 hours then.

But even with this quest, the barking one and the "This one time" it seems to be going tight with the tokens. Atleast for me. Hope ill make it, since then ill have the "What a long, strange trip it's been

*Edit* i got it a few min after posting this. Tho it's not a quest really, there is no exclamation mark over his head. Talk to him and ask if he still needs help.

Once u get the ram, DO NOT dismount. (like i did) When u are on the ram, u get 2 tokens each time u deliver a keg. And you have 4 mins before the ram disappears.
I dismounted after the 3rd keg (like when u have the actual quest) and wasn't able to talk to him again. So i only got 6 tokens from it today :(

评论来自 281938

Can anyone confirm or deny that you can sell back the clothing after you've danced in Dal?

评论来自 Snikmord

BREWFEST 2009: How to easily earn 30+ Brewfest Prize Token per run:

Talk to Neill Ramstein (46.40) to start the "daily" quest.*
~~Place the Ram Racing Reins you receive from Neill Ramstein on your ActionBar. You will find the item in your bag.~~
Spam the Ram Racing Reins immediately to enter a gallop and maintain it.
Ride to apple basket #2 (47.45), in the crossroads after the bridge.
Ride to apple basket #3 (47.49), paralell to the gnomes' workshop across the road.
Ride to Flynn Firebrew (45.52) in Kharanos, but do a 180 degree turn (see Joroesan's comment) the second (!) he throws the Portable Brewfest Keg at you.
Ride to apple basket #3 (47.49).
Ride to apple basket #2 (47.45).
Deliver the Portable Brewfest Keg to Pol Amberstill (46.40) back at the Brewfest tent where you started.
Repeat.

The trick is to only use apple basket #2 and #3, turning around the second you've received or turned in a Portable Brewfest Keg. Apple basket #1 and #4 should only be used as a last resort. The range on the NPC's tosses is fairly generous, so you can turn around just as you pass the small stone wall in front of Flynn Firebrew (apple basket #4) and at the Brewfest banner in front of Pol Amberstill (apple basket #1 aka start)

Maintain the gallop at all times (hammer those Ram Racing Reins ~~on your ActionBar~~)!

Practice makes perfect. GOOD LUCK! :-)

Additional tips for 2018:
The radius of the apple baskets is much more forgiving nowadays.
You can ride straight through the apple baskets - no more jumping.

Co-ordinates for apple baskets and NPCs:

46.40 - apple basket #1, in the tent at Brewfest.
47.45 - apple basket #2, at the crossroads, near the bridge.
47.49 - apple basket #3, paralell to gnomes' workshop across the road.
46.53 - apple basket #4, in Kharanos.

46.40 - Neill Ramstein, the questgiver.
45.52 - Flynn Firebrew, provides Portable Brewfest Keg.
46.40 - Pol Amberstill, provides Brewfest Prize Token in exchange for Portable Brewfest Keg.

Please, rate this post up if you found it useful. Thank you!

评论来自 Seasprite69

The quest appears to have gone daily as of the latest patch - ran this morning, cannot pick up tonight. Well over 12 hrs have elapsed.

评论来自 297936

Blue posts indicate that the timer on this "quest" is now 18 hours, as intended.

评论来自 422931

If your fingers are falling off from hitting that action bar button the whole time try this macro

/use Ram Racing Reins
/use Ram Racing Reins
/use Ram Racing Reins
/use Ram Racing Reins
/use Ram Racing Reins
/use Ram Racing Reins
/use Ram Racing Reins
/use Ram Racing Reins
/use Ram Racing Reins
/use Ram Racing Reins
/use Ram Racing Reins
/use Ram Racing Reins
This macro uses the reins how ever many times its repeated, just hit this every 5 seconds or so to stay at top speed

评论来自 valdor

Be careful not to start the event before a server reset. I did it and when logging back (after 4 runs) I lost the ram and the reins. Had to wait again 18 hours. That was a great run... :-(

评论来自 438545

Neill Ramstein {46.6, 40.3}

Brewfest Quest Giver:
(Dun Morogh)

- Now This is Ram Racing... Almost.
- There and Back again

Hermana80 says on www.wowhead.com/cata:
"I found that the most effective way of doing this is as follows. Now this will only work if you pay attention and don't get stuck on a fence or tree. There are three buckets of apples; the first one by the bridge, the second in the hills before Kharanos, and the third behind the barrel thrower. Your best friend is going to be the first one. You will hopefully never have to use that third one. Stay at a full gallop the entire time.

When you start, go to the first bucket, jump over it (you'll still get rid of the debuff, so don't worry). Skip over the second one by running in a straight line towards the barrel thrower. Right in front of the barrel thrower is a stone fence with a fire pillar in the middle. You can turn on the FIRST half of the fence- meaning BEFORE the fire thing but AFTER the fence actually starts- and still get the barrel. Now, if you got stuck at a fence or tree run to the last bucket of apples, you'll need it. Then run in a straight line towards the SECOND bucket. By the time you get there the debuff should have stacked to about 90 or 95. Use the first bucket again. When you throw the barrel towards the quest starter you can turn right next to a banner holder and a tiki torch thing. Don't actually run under the arch. Follow this pattern until your time is up. Congrats. "

This tactic WORKS!

Hope this helps! I also submitted a picture of him!

~Aarchangel
Night Elf Hunter (Beast Master)
Fenris Server
Harvesters of Sorrow Guild
*Find my guild on www.guildportal.com and/or myspace.com/hos_07!*

评论来自 Tertius

I don't know if it's a bug or client/server latency but fairly regularly, I'll run past the barrel at 47.45 or 47.49 and my ram doesn't get the fatigue refresh. I just had it happen to me twice in today's run, and (since it's happened a couple of times already) I was paying attention) I made damn sure I got very close to each barrel when I passed them. I've also had my ram get fatigued even though the counter had refreshed to zero.

Anybody else experienced this?

评论来自 Snikmord

Joining a battleground while doing this quest, will reset the quest's timer when you return from the battle.

评论来自 Snikmord

UPDATE: Thought I'd found a loophole, turns out that the reins are removed from your inventory.

评论来自 579122

i just watched several people doing this and maintained galop the whole time, they were able to remove the fatigue consistently every time, usually when their stack was around 20-30.

anyone know how they were doing this?

评论来自 457977

Looks like it's not possible to get more token out of this quest this year (2010). I was only able to do 4 kegs until the ram timer was up, and didn't get any extra prize token for the extra keg. The ram timer doesn't get extended after each successful keg this year, so this is the reason we can only do a low number of kegs.

评论来自 Quilan

Great LotR refrence...

"There and Back Again, A Hobbit's Tale, by Bilbo Baggins" Its also known as The Hobbit to do this just stay at top speed and eat the apples

评论来自 521273

As part of that follow up, at least as far as this year, I've noticed a strange phenomena. I noticed that my timer sat at 2 minutes for a LONG time. Once it got under one minute and started counting down the timer I noticed why... Every time you turn in a keg and get 2 tokens it adds 30 seconds to your timer. So if you're really really good at it you can have significantly longer than 4 minutes. Just thought I'd put it in.

评论来自 181148

I don't know why Neill needs you to run to Kharanos. Flynn can obviously throw the barrel far enough to reach him.

评论来自 BlankTH

Good guide.
Thought I'd add some general tips that I learned while doing this every day.

Put reins on the action bar (I put mine on F, Avengers Shield had to share his place x))
Head straight for each basket as much as possible, turning wastes more time than you'd think.
Make sure you touch each basket as you run past it, since missing one can lose you loads of tokens.
You don't need to run all the way up to the deliverer/deliveree, but have your bag up at all times so you can check whether it arrived/left your inventory for each deliverence, since the number of yards you need to be within can vary depending on your latency.
If you manage to get all the way to the deliverence point while the barrel is still chasing you (it's still in your bag though, so don't worry), you know that you've made a very good run, try and do that every time.
I usually get two baskets on the way to get the barrel, and only the second one on the way back. Saves a lot of time.

My record is 36 tokens. That's 18 runs. I'm sure getting more is possible, but if you get that many each day you can get 51 tokens every day if your server doesn't like helping with the iron dwarves, which isn't bad.

Good luck everyone! ^^

评论来自 Forcia

Horde side: the goblin is moved from Razor Hill to old zepp place.

评论来自 halflife

Why does the quest text in the game say Razor Hill if they moved it? I've been messing around on this stupid ram for 20 minutes on this quest

评论来自 860627

Uh so where is it at? Coordinates or something, maybe a specific destination please?

评论来自 703778

I think this quest might be bugged. I just did it a few minutes ago on my Flameward Hippogryph.

I still had the reins in my inventory, but I was not on the ram. *shrug*

评论来自 Andygorus

I found the stranded goblin 波克·多瑟坦 at (50.62, 13.49).
Just head east towards Bladefist Bay (the docks) from the quest giver, he'll be the the right side of the road next to two Brewfest flags.
I hope your not too drunk already to misssh him ... hic!

Also, after mounting the ram and dismounting, I was able to use my flying mount to carry the barrels back and forth.

评论来自 daemonfox

Confirming both replies aretrue.

Location is on the way to the dock to begin the Vash quests.

Once you are off the mount, you can 100% complete this via your own mount.

评论来自 798596

22.09.2011

Appears this has been bug fixed. It is no longer possible to do the quest after dismounting.

You can however always have full speed, just watch out for apples.

评论来自 853832

I just did it on my flying mount, so not fixed :)

评论来自 Misskatonic

I noticed while doing this Hordeside that if you get any damage while on the ram, it will reset your exhaustion stack - so I would just route myself through the two large bonfires between the turn in and the pick up: between that and the two apples, it was smooth sailing. Er... riding.

EDIT: I feel dumb now - I realized that it wasn't the fire that removed the stack, there's a bushel of apples near one of the tents that I kept running past.

评论来自 SEMC

This is a good quest for free exp and gold. You can accept and immediately dismount (drops the quest) if you don't care about the tokens. You get the exp/gold when you accept the quest, not finish it.

评论来自 latsau

Bugged, after riding around on my ram trying to find the goblin I decided to click off the ram "buff" and fly around to find him.

When I did , he threw the barrel at me completing part of the quest, I then proceeded to finish the quest by flying back and forth until quest was complete.

评论来自 lionsofmercy

For "There and Back Again," the original quest (as stated by the thread name):

Thank God for the mount completion bug--because I think I ran into another one.

First Ram: ran around trying to find the guy. (Who is at 53,51.) Delivered one keg.
Second Ram: Delivered two kegs--then he REFUSED to throw me the third. Ram went poof. Went on here, mounted my drake--and he immediately threw me my keg. Maybe he figured that he'd thrown me a total of 3 kegs while I had a ram . . .

This didn't work on the follow-up, which is the one most of the people here are referencing, in case you're confused.

评论来自 Thottbot

u can repeat this quest, but only once every day. every time u come back with a barrel of beer u get 3 tickets

评论来自 Allakhazam

I wonder how many people know that 30-50 yards along the path behind Firebrew is a second crate of apples you can swing your ram by. Combined with the crate at the halfway point, you can keep your ram going at full gallop (no cantering or trotting!) and get 10 or more kegs easy.

And you get three tickets per keg delivered.

评论来自 Allakhazam

This is pretty easy. Once you learn how to ride the ram with the reigns you get this quest available. The best way to do this is to be careful not to overwork your ram. Halfway down the path is a fruit basket looking thing that will refresh your ram's endurance so you can go faster for a while longer. You can still fatigue him though if you whip way too much in between getting the fruit. This is repeatable once you finish it. You just talk to him again and you get 2x tickets each half trip.

评论来自 Allakhazam

Besides the 600 tickets is there a purchase with gold to get the ram?

评论来自 Allakhazam

Beat the !@#$ out of that thing, grab the fruit behind the little hill just before the straight stretch to get the keg, grab it again on the way back. B-line to the turn in the keg and get ticket. Cut through the..grab the fruit. Rinse and repeat...one way but not the only way =)

评论来自 Catyra

This quest is so buggy. Requently the ram won't pick up an apple so you have to literally ram into it and wait until you get the refresh. On top of that, if you fat finger something like a potion you lose your ram and no way to continue, currently just got 4 tokens and am done for the day. I really wish they reworked brewfest to be more like the other holiday events instead of relying on a dodgy daily to provide half the repeatable tokens.

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[There and Back Again]

[Get a keg from Flynn Firebrew in Kharanos and return it to Pol Amberstill. Do this 3 times before your ram goes away.]

	[Kegs Delivered] （3）

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[So you want to help out at Brewfest? I've got the perfect task for ya. I'll put you on one of my racing rams and you head down to Kharanos. I've got some kegs I need to pick up.

Flynn Firebrew is waiting on a hill near a stack of kegs. He'll toss you a keg when you get near, then you run the keg back here and toss the keg to Pol Amberstill. You can only carry one at a time.

Ready?]

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