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评论来自
eddie
The new Polearm from the Arena Season 2 gear. Attainable at the Area 52 Arena Vendor (New one) in Netherstorm.
评论来自
42230
Paladin with Reckoninng build will serve this weapon alot.
Why?
build:
https://www.wowhead.com/cata/talent=qZxGt0Mh0xZVf0tbcuic
Use:
You will get the most swings out of this weapon to use all the charges on your reckoning. Should do nice damage too!
Anything under 2.3 speed or less will make you hit 3 times before the time on reckoning resets.
评论来自
85926
Two funny things i noticed. 1) The screen shot appears to be a warrior(not a paladin or hunter) 2) no hunters seem interested in this. Vs the axe i spose its easy to make the choice, but meh it could be justified either way. And oh yeah Go paladins go! i love you guys.
评论来自
prinnygod
Now that Season 4 is here, this weapon and all Season 2 items are available for honor points and marks of honor just like Season 1 was. This specific weapon now costs 27,000 honor points and 40 Alterac Valley marks of honor.
评论来自
168818
Here is the Stat comparison from upgrading from the Season 1
Gladiator's Painsaw
:
+8.4 Dps
+7 Stamina
+7 Crit Rating
+6 Resilience
+12 Attack Power
评论来自
150366
This is an excellent weapon for Night Elf Mohawks.
评论来自
317173
Not bad for druid tanks now, or PvE if your max stam. is low.
评论来自
324375
Now that's what I call a Pain Saw.
评论来自
Narrano
This item is once again available for purchase from
Kezzik the Striker
in Netherstorm.
Cost: 1500 Honor
评论来自
914035
Even though it says this weapon is no longer available in this game, it is, at Area 52, Netherstorm, 33, 64. The price is 1.500 Honor Points.
评论来自
Allakhazam
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评论来自
Allakhazam
iiiiiirtrt
评论来自
Allakhazam
pic of this wep pls
评论来自
Allakhazam
You can check to see how many points you'll get towards this axe at the
arena calculator
.
评论来自
Allakhazam
"Merchant Sell Price" on this and all other arena gear from last year needs to be updated.
Edited, Jul 16th 2008 9:11pm by HunterAding
评论来自
Thottbot
Woh! I'd like to see a pic of this!
评论来自
Thottbot
A pic? You can go to the dressing room and try it yourself :)
评论来自
Thottbot
can all idiots stop saying "HUNTER ITEM!" joke or no your disrespecting our class. If we get disrespected it should be because we
actually deserve
it not because of random idiots.
评论来自
Thottbot
that acctly WOULD be pretty sweet 4 hunters, espcially those of us who hate spending 6 hours with 25 people u don't know and some 12 year old telling u what 2 do.
评论来自
Thottbot
it does look cooler than the axe.. :-\ i mean i would want it
评论来自
Thottbot
how does this match up against the merciless axe for a hunter?
评论来自
Thottbot
this can be used for many classes but lack of strength on weapon mean it si probably not warrior and rouge cant use polearm this is hunter AP and crit helps ranged more than any other class but god for any none caster class
评论来自
Thottbot
hmm the return of the 2h fury warrior
good for a speed ret paly
and a hunter
if u disagree ur a n00b end of story
kthxbai
评论来自
Thottbot
Ok people with lvl 49 or so characters or lvl 70s that bought the account from other guys just shut up cause you don't have a clue about how attack speed affects classes.
1st of all don't you ever say it's a hunter's weapon when u see +to AP, cause the +82 to AP it gives is like +41 str. The other two MG weapons give +42 str, you can sacrifice 1 str for the change of model (if you love spears). However, this spear (not all spears) suck for paladins and MAINLY for warriors because of its attack speed. Those 2 classes need slow attack speed weps cause mortal strike and crusader strike uses the AVARAGE damage and NOT the dps of the weapon, meaning slower weapons with higher average = more damage. And please I don't want to hear any noob saying you need slower weapons for higher criticals ffs
评论来自
Thottbot
By all Season 2 Arena Weapons, this one is the worst for Warriors, end of story.
You'll get the same amount of DPS, the only difference is the damage range. By taking this Polearm you'll lose more than 200 max damage on your MS, which is pretty silly.
For a Warrior, a weapon with 126 DPS and 2.20 weapon speed is a lot worse than the one with 3.80. In some cases it's even worth giving up a few DPS for higher max-damage.
Anyways, I'm just trying to advice you not to take this weapon as purely mathematically, you'll lose a lot of max damage on Overpower, Whirlwind and Mortal Strike, meaning this weapon only hits a bit harder than a one-handed weapon from Karazhan, which ends up in a big loss of burst damage.
A crit will make (before AC deductions and AP and not counting Enrage and other damage modifiers) ~430 more damage on an instant attack, 215 if it's a normal hit, and since you won't be allowed to spam your instants more often if you have a faster weapon, slow weapons is better!
Not to talk about Slams! You'll get a swing down from 3.6 to 0.5, meaning you'll be able to cut down your attack speed by more than 3 seconds, with this you'll only earn 1.7 seconds
and
doing less damage due to lower max-damage and lower gain from AP (see below).
Also to a lesser extent, Slams and Normal Hits will gain more from your AP since it's based on Weapon Speed:
Attack Power x Weapon Speed / 14 = damage added per hit.
Read more on
Wowwiki!
Naturally, a slow weapon with same DPS as another weapon will have higher average damage as well:
(Sword, Axe and Mace):
365 - 549 Damage Speed 3.60
(126.9 damage per second)
365 + 549 / 2 = 457 damage per hit (in average).
(Polearm):
223 - 335 Damage Speed 2.20
(126.8 damage per second)
223 + 335 / 2 = 279 damage per hit (in average).
评论来自
Thottbot
dont waste your time getting this piece of @#$%
评论来自
Thottbot
It was confirmed in a blue post that the season 3 hunter weapon will cost 1k honor points and does not have any recquirement (arena rating) so if u wanna ^&*!@ about this one then take a long needed break from WoW and just come back when this thing comes out... who gives a damn anyway your just gonna replace em all with greens when the next expansion comes out so go ahead and QQ all you want... no sympathy here
评论来自
Thottbot
lol wtf :P
评论来自
Thottbot
um.. just curious cuz i dont have all the eistien math formulas like the guy above, but if a warrior is swinging 35% crit or more wouldnt this weapon give u momre dps.....not to mention increased procs from an enchant and like, unlimited rage from dmg dealt? seriously, i wanna kno, plz post more.
and BTW, everything is a hunter weapon, because every1 is a hunter.........
评论来自
Thottbot
No...it wouldn't. In any way shape or form.
评论来自
Thottbot
Painsaw vs. Decapitator
Res: 42 vs. 33
Hit: 0 vs. 18
Crit: 42 vs. 42
AP: 82 vs. 84
That's the general breakdown for the +whatevers. Now, I'm a hunter. The axe is nice IMO because of the hit rating being present (2 extra AP isn't phenomenal and can be ignored). I also happen to be an orc, so I have a racial that will benefit me on the axe as well.
The damage on the axe is much, much higher, which *is* nice for a hunter. I stack on a good raptor strike whenever I have to put on or refresh wing clip, so the idea that the hit will be more powerful is a big plus. Don't let the DPS on the painsaw fool you, it is only equal because of the attack speed.
The painsaw DOES have more res, but 9 res versus 18 hit rating and a stronger raptor strike? No thanks. Just my opinion, though.
For the record, I do think the axe is ugly. :(
评论来自
Thottbot
Awesome for fury warrior
Sadly you can't get the +5% crit of the talents (but you can have the +5% damage!) and keep rampage but its fast enough for you to be able to chain heroic strike when your threat is low and high damage enough to chain improved slam when you don't want to pull aggro. You also have a much higher hit chance with a 2h wep compared to duel wielding.
I notice the next quickest 2h epic lvl 70 dps wep (as opposed to a stat staff for druids / casters) is the khorium champion at 3.30 which is 50% slower... crazy stuff
https://www.wowhead.com/cata/item=23541/
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评论来自
Thottbot
Even tho it doesnt agree with the math I remember doing really well with the
Heart Fire Warhammer
from Ramparts, and that was very similar to this.
Things to keep in mind about Ret Pallies:
1. Vindication, Seal of Command, and Vengeance all benefit from hitting more times even if the hits do less
2. Crusader Strike is our only melee instant, so using this won't hurt us as much as it would a warrior
3. If we aren't using Seal of Command, its probably Judgement of the Crusader with Seal of Righteousness, which comes close to covering the damage lost per swing (personally I prefer this way, especially when I had the HFWH
I realize what I've said here isn't really supported by the math above, but its supported by my experience leveling and PvPing with every weapon type and spec available to the class.
评论来自
Thottbot
The game is all about looks. And this looks cool :) After 3 years of tapping away at a keyboard you'd think the nubbins playing this game would realise this.
i wonder what would happen if terrorist EMP'd the server buildings of Blizzard. All the wow gooniez would have to find a new game :P
评论来自
Thottbot
Seal of blood out damages Seal of command by a good bit. So this weapon is actually good for retribution paladins since Seal of blood works better on faster weapons. Seal of command, and a slower weapon for better burst also works though.
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