评论来自 5960

So, anyone have an idea why this would ever be used? It's not like that extra 200 damage is gonna steal aggro in any realistic situation.

评论来自 Tantou

It procs off itself. Hopefully, Blizzard will leave this as-is (with the self proc), or buff it to a 30% chance to reduce threat by a half-feint.

评论来自 Carighan

For PvE situations this is a virtually 100% replacement for Instant Poison. The damage-loss is negligible and easily weighted up by the threat-saving, and it's a lot cheaper.

A great poison all around. :)

Also since it has an instant effect, of course safe to use around CCers.

评论来自 kevin349

This poison is a complete waste of time and money.

In a raiding situation, you should have a protection warrior; and the extra 200 damage from instant poison SHOULD NOT be pulling agro.

Many many fights in raid instances are time sensitive. They have quick enrages where every amount of DPS you can do matters.

Don't be cheap, don't worry about pulling agro. If you pull agro using Instant Poison you need to talk to your tank. It's his fault, lol.

As for poisons for a raiding rogue; you should be using Instant VII in your main hand and Deadly VII in your off hand. That is by far the top damage poison combitnation.

评论来自 10076

Another fact that's being overlooked:

Your raid dps is controlled by your threat. Generally you feint to control your threat. If you use this poison, you'll feint less, have more energy/CP and actually do more damage.

评论来自 51819

Proc rate in pre 2.1 TBC is far higher than the tooltip indicates. I don't have any hard numbers but I'd guess its over 30%. For example instant poison does ~9-10% of my overall damage in a PvE situation, Anesthetic Poison however was getting 15-16%.

Using both Instant and Anesthetic Poison, instant on main and anesthetic on offhand, my offhand was running out of charges roughly twice as fast.

评论来自 82606

LOL at people talking about the cost of posions....are you serious?? At this level your useing major agility,super healing potions,stat food, and heavy netherweave bandage and 10s is a lot? I don't understand...kill mobs get silver.

评论来自 89752

I only use Anaesthetic when I'm pugging Heroics and don't know or trust the tank. That's not the case in a raid situation so even if Windfury isn't available your next choice is Instant/Deadly.

评论来自 139355

Raiding rogues do not use Feint or Anesthetic Poison. Vanish, or tell your tank to learn his class.

评论来自 Thrakin

Regarding this poison in WotLK -

"- Anesthetic Poison: Now also removes one Enrage effect from the target. ".

An useful change, or a vain attempt to make this poison carry itself around? We'll see soon enough, I guess.

Taken from http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=9336456598&sid=2000&pageNo=1

评论来自 56783

Unless mobs enrage every 5 seconds in WotLK, the amount of utility this enrage-dispel mechanic will have will not outweigh the dps loss from using a higher-dps poison on that weapon slot.

The game isn't only about 25 man raiding.

What if you have enraging mobs in an instance and it comes down to you or a hunter for the last spot?

And in 25-man raids, what is so frightening about responsibility for a certain raid job? If you have a mob that you are assigned to as melee, YOU can take care of the enrage instead of letting a hunter do it for you, who may be doing something equally useful on a different mobs, die early, or otherwise be SLOW.

Rogues have been complaining about only being able to do damage in raids, so they are given new mechanics to have fun with. Being first on the damage meter is only fun for so many months of raiding, at least that's what the rogues i raid with are telling me.

评论来自 67465

This does NOT dispel Hunters 'Bestial Wrath' on them or their pet.

评论来自 225988

nubs it has a 50% proc rate it will out dmg instant posion now, mathematically it's a beast.

评论来自 225988

quick math mathmatic equation.
100 strikes with ans potion with a 50% proc rate using it's lowest dmg =6700
100 strikes with instant posion with a 20% proc and 300 dmg it does =6000
Deadly posion on off hand if you dig it but the increase proc and other benefiets def make this posion the best for rogue on the main hand. since deadly posions stops at 5 stack dual is a waste.

remember thats using the lowest dmg possible it can do more

评论来自 256319

I cross checked between WoWhead and Thottbot of all the listed abilities that are marked as Enrage effects in WotLK and wrote down the instance creatures and a few zone bosses. I've only confirmed two on the list in-game thus far (gluth and lava blaze).

Onyx Brood General -------------------------- Draconic Rage ----------------------- The Obsidian Sanctum
Ley-Guardian Eregos ------------------------- Enraged Assault -------------------- The Oculus
Enraging Ghoul --------------------------------- Unstoppable Enrage --------------- The Culling of Stratholme
Stitched Colossus ----------------------------- Unstoppable Enrage --------------- Naxxramas
Stitched Giant ----------------------------------- Unstoppable Enrage --------------- Naxxramas
Proto-Drake Handler -------------------------- Unholy Rage -------------------------- Utgarde Keep
Lava Blaze --------------------------------------- Molten Fury ---------------------------- The Obsidian Sanctum
Dragonflayer Fanatic ------------------------- Fervor ------------------------------------ Utgarde Pinnacle
Ingvar the Plunderer -------------------------- Enrage ----------------------------------- Utgarde Keep
Savage Worg ----------------------------------- Enrage ----------------------------------- Utgarde Keep
Korrak the Bloodrager ----------------------- Enrage ----------------------------------- Zul'Drak - Amphitheater event
Frenzied Worgen ----------------------------- Enrage ----------------------------------- Utgarde Pinnacle
Gluth --------------------------------------------- Enrage ----------------------------------- Naxxramas
Ahn'kahar Slasher --------------------------- Enrage ----------------------------------- Ahn'kahet: The Old Kingdom
Watcher Gashra ----------------------------- Enrage ----------------------------------- Azjol-Nerub
Ahn'kahar Watcher -------------------------- Enrage ----------------------------------- Ahn'kahet: The Old Kingdom
Hardened Steel Berserker ---------------- Enrage ----------------------------------- Halls of Lightning
Ragemane ------------------------------------- Enrage ----------------------------------- Zul'Drak
Stinkbeard ------------------------------------- Enrage ----------------------------------- Zul'Drak - Amphitheater event
High Priest Hawinni ------------------------ Enrage ----------------------------------- Zul'Drak
Savage Cave Beast ------------------------ Enrage ----------------------------------- Ahn'kahet: The Old Kingdom
Skarvald the Constructor ----------------- Enrage ----------------------------------- Utgarde Keep
Dragonflayer Metalworker ---------------- Enrage ----------------------------------- Utgarde Keep

评论来自 387537

Feint (Rank 8): Performs a feint, causing no damage but lowering your threat by a large amount, making the enemy less likely to attack you. In addition, reduces the damage you take from area of effect attacks by 50% for 6 sec.

Real rogues who raid do use Feint.

评论来自 Lejedifou

Can't find this poison on PTR. Removed from the bag of my copied lvl 80 Rogue, and not sold anymore by poison vendors. I didn't find anything in patch notes saying that this poison will be removed in Cataclysm. Does anyone have any information regarding this poison ? Maybe that's the whole "dispel enrage" mechanic which has been removed from the game.

评论来自 kworry

For the record, this poison got rolled into the rogue ability Shiv with patch 4.0.1.

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