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WoW Economy Weekly Wrap-Up: Battle for Azeroth Data Mining, Expansion Prep, RAF Changes, Blogs & Giveaway!

posted 2018/01/27 at 10:57 AM by Gumdrops

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NEW Allows a Blacksmith to make basic weapons and armor up to a maximum potential skill of 100. Requires stone and metal found with the mining skill.

NEW Allows a Blacksmith to make basic weapons and armor up to a maximum potential skill of 75. Requires stone and metal found with the mining skill.

NEW Allows a Blacksmith to make basic weapons and armor up to a maximum potential skill of 300. Requires stone and metal found with the mining skill.

NEW Allows a Blacksmith to make basic weapons and armor up to a maximum potential skill of 100. Requires stone and metal found with the mining skill.


BFA Skill Up Ranks	Live Skill Up Ranks

The new materials for most professions have been datamined albeit some unnamed. - zone herbs, enchanting materials and ore.Hardened Tempest HideReckles with WTBGoldAlchemySilas' Sphere of TransmutationPotion of ReplenishmentBlacksmithingKhaz'gorian Smithing HammerMonelite OrePlatinum OreStorm Silver OreEnchantingVeiled CrystalGloom DustGlove enchants are coming back tooEnchant Gloves - Kul Tiran CraftingEngineeringElectroshock Mount MotivatorPotion of Soul PurityInscriptionContractsTome of the Quiet MindRiverbudStar MossAkunda's BiteWinter's KissSiren's PollenSea StalkJewelcraftingNatant RubelliteKraken's EyeGolden BerylRubelliteKubilineSolstoneViridiumKyaniteLeatherworkingShimmerscale Diving SuitShimmerscale Diving HelmetTailoringPet - Hot Air Balloon (DNT)Embroidered Deep Sea BagBregVidsWhat excites you about the upcoming expansion professions? Is there anything that you would like to see added in addition to what has already been datamined? Will you be kitting out your characters with 32 slot bags as soon as they're available?new/u/olioli86 asks when is the best time to level up a profession in an expansion on the /r/woweconomy subredditI'm intrigued what people think about this. Early in an expansion you have massive prices on materials, so leveling a profession to max costs a lot. When successful though, the top level crafts can sell for big money. Do you plough money in early and try to be first on your server, or do you wait a couple of months till people have hit level cap, mats are cheaper and there is a bit more competition?/u/StuffMcStuffington echoes my thoughtsI personally thing it depends on the kind of capital you end up having at the beginning of an expansion. If you have enough you can skill up quicker and make a profit quicker since you can buy the mats. Possibly getting in early when shuffling is very profitable. If you don't have enough capital honestly mid to late expansion aren't bad times as during the middle things are selling still pretty well and mats are cheaper. Later on you may have people buying things up to finish collections but you also have usually the cheapest mats which lets you get to the max skill level and be prepared for next expansion where you may have enough capital to start out early and make some early money.as /u/taolan explainsIf you are not at max now, wait until the end of Legion when it is cheapest. Then, you can use that to start easier. It's recommend only picking a craft/farm pair per char so as you level you can get the mats cheaper. So, Herb/Alch or JC/Mining. This way you can support your own profession cheaper as you level to 120. Whatever you need when you hit 120 you can finish on AH if you want. Also, the start doesn't need to be the 1st week, prices will remain pretty high probably until patch 8.1. Also, if you really want to make EASY gold, level up a herb/miner first and just sell those mats. If you like farming especially, this is a no-brainer as prices are going to be crazy high for mats at the start for the few people who just want to power level their professions. Sure, there is more gold to be made crafting, but more investment and effort./u/Eriennyl asks about preparation between expansionsI'm not a veteran goblin from like vanilla days that sort, only started end WoD and now end Legion. I'm really interested to know what kept the motivation between the end of expansion until the next expansion.

What I mean is, while the expansion is active .. I'll usually try to anticipate markets like raids, new pets, transmog, mats in general that's gonna rise in demand, etc stuff like that. But coming to an end of the expansion .. I'm not really sure what to anticipate or rather, do I just lie low and make passive income from order halls? I'm a semi-altholic with 8 alts .. But what else is there to do?

So my question is, aside from doing some long term crafts like MoP stuff - sky golem, panthers, transmutes. What kept you going? Do you take a break after banking in on tokens/balance or is there something to look forward to?/u/Ex_iledd shares their outlook regarding identifying markets and items to take forward beyond LegionI try and think about what things from the current expansion that are sort of easy to come by now won't be in the future. An obvious example is the Steelbound Harness mount from Blacksmithing. Costs 50 Blood of Sargeras and a bunch of other mats to make. I imagine people aren't going to be out farming Blood of Sargeras in the next expansion. Most people aren't going to have lots of it on a single character let alone one that is a blacksmith AND has the recipe from Nighthold. So that mount is going to inevitably going to rise in value.

Another one is the battle pet Hungering Claw from the Kosumoth the Hungering daily. Lasts two weeks I think, decently long set up to even get the world quest. No guarantee it'll even spawn the next week. Could be the mount, could be gold, could be the pet, etc. It's really cheap now, that too will go up in price.

I personally sell alot of mog so I'm going to be stocking up on felslate and other trading goods. Legion 850 stuff uses alot of materials compared to previous expansions.

Those are two examples off the top of my head, I'm sure there's more.What are you doing to prepare for the launch of BfA as a gold-maker? Are you investing in anything that will sell long in to the future of the next expansion? Which professions are you focusing on and why?

Blizzard

Recruit-A-Friend Changes in Full

The XP boost has been reduced from 200% bonus to 50% bonus*, effective today, January 22, 2018.
If you’re already actively participating in the program, fear not! If you either sent or received an invite before the change went into effect today, once the invite is accepted you and your friend will still receive triple XP* (200% XP bonus) until the link between your accounts expires (90 days from the date the new recruit’s account was first created). Please note: RAF invites expire after seven days.
Heirloom gear XP bonuses will no longer stack with the RAF boost (i.e., the maximum XP boost you will see from today onwards is 50%). If you were already on the program, Heirloom gear will still stack.
All other rewards are unchanged and yours to enjoy:

Summon your friend once every 30 minutes.
10% bonus reputation from kills that grant reputation.*
Level granting: for every two levels your friend gains while the accounts are linked, they can grant one level to one of your characters.
Recruiter rewards, including game time and epic mounts.

*For a full list of the rewards and the in-game criteria for receiving them, visit our RAF In-Game Bonuses page.

/u/francismcd explainsI decided to set up a new army of alts with Recruit a Friend on the last day of December. Was breezing through leveling in dungeons until patch 7.3.5 hit but had many alts at 90 before the nerf.

The last few days, I've been leveling characters on a different server and got the first set of them to 90 and a few more to 46 (so they can boost to 90). But it was noticeably slower than before, took almost 24 hours /played to get from 15-90 using a combination of leveling zones and dungeons, instead of 2 hours 15- 2 hours 30 for 46, it takes more than 5. This is with heirlooms too.

I'm relieved this new nerf doesn't hit me at all. You would think, however, that Blizzard would boost RAF to level 100 at this point. But they still want to sell those boosts I suppose.

Blizzard

Thanks for the feedback and thoughts so far.

The Refer-A-Friend system is intended as an option for players who want to invite a friend to play WoW with them and experience the game together. When it was first introduced, we gave it a hefty bonus to experience gain as a way for both players to reach endgame content as quickly as possible.

Nowadays, purchasing the latest WoW expansion includes a free character boost, so the need to rush your friend to max level is no longer there; you can jump into the latest content with your friend right away. This meant that the only players who were using the Refer-A-Friend system in its intended way – leveling alongside their friend – were those who had decided that they wanted to experience that content together. We realized that, for those players, the 300% XP bonus was a disservice; we were cutting that shared experience short by making them finish it far too quickly.

Now, we certainly recognize that the majority of people using the Refer-A-Friend system before these changes were doing so in order to level alts quickly. If anything, we take that as a strong indication that the system needed to change: the best method to level a character in WoW shouldn’t be “buy a new copy of the game, put it on a separate account, send it a Refer-A-Friend invite, level a new character, and then transfer that character to your primary account when you’re finished.” That’s messy, at best.

That said, we’re certainly taking the feedback about the rate of leveling alts into account as we move forward with the game’s development. We’ve been happy with the changes so far, but if leveling is too slow, we’d rather address that in the game itself than have Refer-A-Friend be some kind of bizarre workaround to an outstanding issue.

giving an XP bonus based on the number of max-level characters you haveincreasing the XP bonus for heirloomsDo you already have an active RAF account? Were you planning to RAF a new or another account before the changes were announced? If you set up a RAF after the changes, what do you think about the leveling rates?very active on Twitter sharing gold-making tips and advicelaunched her own gold-making blogSince I began posting about my goldmaking on Twitter, the question I’ve been asked the most is about how I make my gold. So I thought, for my 1st ever blog post, I would give a brief overview of what I craft, what I flip and anything else I do to make gold.

Disclaimer: The following crafts/methods are what work for me on my realm and may not be profitable for all players on all realms. Check prices on your realm and use your own judgement before investing.

Crafting

Blacksmithing - Relics: You wouldn’t think that i805 relics would sell, but they do and the profit margin can be real nice. I try to keep 2 on the AH most of the time.
Leatherworking - Toys: Legion added 4 toys crafted with Leatherworking. I’ve been selling the Leather Pet Bed but I have not yet got the other 3 recipes (which I just realized 😛 ) so I need to work on that.
Tailoring - Hexweave Bags: Still the most in-demand bags in the game. I get my Sumptuous Fur from trading Garrison Resources and craft when I can for a tidy bit of profit.
Disenchanting Bracers AKA “The Legion Shuffle”: for creating Leylight Shard (and the occasional Chaos Crystal) plus, disenchanting Legion gear also produces the occasional Blood of Sargeras. For this reason I have had Enchanting paired with Blacksmithing, Leatherworking and Tailoring for most of Legion.
Alchemy - Vial of the Sands: A recent addition to my recipe list, this is probably the best-selling crafted mount in the game. The grind to farm this recipe can be brutal due to the double layer of RNG but it is definitely worth it. I like to keep 3-5 on hand when possible.
Jewelcrafting - Obliterating Gems: Since the value of gems began to drop I started obliterating the Red and Green uncut gems. These both average about 64 ash and have been, in my experience, the most reliable and profitable means of crafting Obliterum.
Engineering: Mounts: The Mechano-Hog (Mekgineer's Chopper for the Alliance) and Depleted-Kyparium Rocket Rocket are the main two I keep in stock (up to 5 of each at a time). The Sky Golem is also profitable and sells well but the 30 day daily-craft limitation and the large amount of Living Steel required makes it a much lower priority for me as the Jewelcrafting Panthers are a more profitable use of Living Steel in my experience.
Inscription: Tome of the Tranquil Mind: I sell about 1000 of these every week. On many realms, the profit margin may be very small but I my realm I have been able to maintain a profit of around 30g or more per Tome. Mill Felwort to get the Sallow Pigment to craft these.

Flipping

Raid BoE’s: I only started flipping these with the release of Antorus so any BoE’s items i930 or higher. These have been a really big boost to my sales avg but they are a very expensive investment so not a realistic option if you don’t already have a lot of gold.
Battle Pets: I buy pets under 50% DBRegionMarketAvg and sell for at least 70% DBRegionMarketAvg (they often sell for around 100% or higher) and I do sometimes flip them on multiple realms.
Other High-Value Items: I also keep an eye out for good deals on many other items including Battered Hilt, Sealed Tome of the Lost Legion, Medallion of the Legion, Mounts acquired from Holiday Events and more. My best ever flip was a Wooly White Rhino that I bought for 850k gold and sold for over 1.7mil.

Check out the full blog post for even more tips for each profession and other methods that Jessi uses to make gold./u/TurrPhennirPhan describes coming back to the game and not having any idea on how to get started, finishing with this summaryI've read a lot of the top posts here, and it mostly just makes my head swim. I get the idea of most of it, I just don't know where to start. I'm under the distinct impression I'd probably be doing myself a favor if I made a DH and also used my free 100 boost in order to get some more professions on the table, but I'm clueless to which professions I should be looking into at this point in the expansion (or what class to 100 boost, for that matter!). Honestly, I'm not even sure what advice I'm hoping to get beyond a soft, cooing voice telling me "everything is going to be OK".Lazy Goldmaker breaks down making that decisionSince your issue seems to be some sort of analysis paralysis and fear of starting, let's look at what you have. It seems you have engineering, blacksmithing and mining available. All of those are professions that have some decent old world recipes that are profitable. Generally speaking when starting out, it is best to focus on high volume markets. You want stuff that sells quickly so you can re-invest and start seeing positive results instantly (you want to create a positive feedback loop in your brain).Lazy Goldmaker continuesYou need to overcome your fear of spending your gold. The easiest way is of to start at a very small scale. Don't spend a lot of gold at once. Just do very small scale stuff, make sure it works and then repeat. This will help you build the necessary confidence and hopefully make some easily recoverable mistakes you can learn from.

Always remember that you can likely just repeat what you did to get to where you are today if something fails. I have sessions where I have spent upwards of 2 million gold across my realms within an hour, without breaking a sweat or even blinking.Moving to the blog post inspired by this discussionLet’s look at an example where someone has 100k gold. Professions are leatherworking and Inscription. Here’s how I would go about it:
Craft 5 each of dreadleather bracers and gloves and gravenscale bracers and gloves. This should cost somewhere around 20k, depending on your realm and recipe rank.
Then I would craft 500 Tome of the Tranquil Mind. At the EU median price for Felwort (100 gold) that is a cost of about 25 000 gold.
Next I would spend about 15k crafting Vantus runes for the current raid tier, using whichever milling method that would get me the pigments for the lowest cost.
That would leave me with roughly 40 000 gold and I would spend this on any legion materials I could find below 80 % dbmarket with TradeSkillMasterCheck out the full post for more insight on getting started with gold-making and overcoming the "analysis paralysis".Note: this giveaway has ended. The winner is Eentje!Twilight & Luminous Starseeker bundleTo enter: leave a comment below (minimum 1-2 sentences) responding to any of the Discussion Points from this week's post.

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Comment by CypionateThere is nice way to use Garrison and sell just Sumptous fur and Sorcerous earth. I think its more profitable with those dempers on Hexweave bags on the AH.Comment by stoupa30I plan to focus on inscription as glyphs are evergeen and with regular relisting they sell well. The idea for steelbound harness is great and I will try to buy a few if I find good deals.Comment by AngelfireWow, this was sure illuminating! I think ehat I liked most is how to preper for the next xpac, and what to do as a newbie goblin!Comment by GumdropsAbout the community blogs, I'm curious about the one who tried to sell xmogs on low pop realm.
Do we have something that can really sell? I've been trying almost all strategies here: selling old world mount and items, selling raid items, buying mats and preparing lots of crafting, and doesnt seem anything works...Comment by StrokelockAs a Druid as well as an Alt-Junkie, I am very much looking forward to the Big Bag changes!
This way, I can carry all gear for all specs without being mad I am having to carry all gear for all specs :)

Also, I think even Legion bags will still be a decent seller as people start in on the new races so I am looking forward to that as well.

In summary - Good Luck Everyone on making a tidy profit!Comment by GumdropsThere is nice way to use Garrison and sell just Sumptous fur and Sorcerous earth. I think its more profitable with those dempers on Hexweave bags on the AH.Comment by missjackieI don't even use the RAF system; so, in essence, really not bothered by the XP being reduced. Other than that, I'll have to do a little more reading.. all these stat squishes are kinda confusing for me.Comment by AdmiralKikiOnce I read on woweconomy forum a post from quite a sucesfull goblin, who said, that he always try to invest gold up to 20k which he saves if he need something. Somehow that change my view on goldmaking and from that point I started doing the same and it was the best thing I could do! This week I broke my record od 1.5m gold in cash! Now I spent it on tokens before they annouce BFA but left some to invest! :)Comment by MorderocI'm glad enchanting receives a buff. I missed weapons enchantments a lot in Legion (To hell with those silly mighty magical supreme mega and ugly weapons!).Comment by MoltarrCan't wait to see how the professions squill squish impacts the economy.

This next expansion will try to max my professions asap, I always focus on content first, will try different this time.

Great article as always!Comment by MaelchavThe "Lazy Goldmaker" speaks to me. I've been playing since right after BC dropped and have never focused on making gold... I'm a big fan of gold. I like it, I use it, I have a little. I keep it in a jar on top of my refrigerator. I'd like to put more in that jar. But I'm something of a planner, so until I have a plan I kind of just... wait. Putting together a plan feels like the hard part, and this blurb seems like a good place to start!Comment by joemacatxThanks again for these writeups - they are very helpful! I definitely echo the Vial of Sands opportunity. It was a tough grind to get, but I can usually sell 1-2/month. Pays for the monthly subscription! Keep up the great work.Comment by nenormalkajaI find professions more and more boring with each expansiond. By the time I can craft something useful, I already have better gear from dungeons or raids. But 32 slot bags would by amazing, I'm still out of free space.Comment by kiisuIt's exciting to see the profession stat squish but I am not sure if it's going to be a good or bad thing quite yet. I would love to see some awesome engineering goggles like in the BC / WLK days. My toons will be waiting awhile for the 8 extra bag slots as I probably won't find the initial price to be worth it.Comment by ValkylWith regards to professions, I am hoping that they make it some so recipes are hard to get to allow a return to the time where not everyone could craft everything. Barring that, I am hopeful that inscription will return to a better place with the consumable rep items (maybe they will have a limited duration so people have to buy stacks of them).Comment by ZoxkzI just want some love for Jewelcrafting i have hope that Jewel will get a new mount or at least a new petComment by AnimeLeechso they're gonna make it so i can't gate a certain material anymore? i used to flip illusion dust for anyone trying to get past the 300's, it's easy to come by now cause of the last patch, but now with these leveling changes, i guess gating is completely dead. ah well. can't complain. but if i'm reading a reddit thread correctly on the explanation, i think you can level each "xpac" concurrently rather than linearly. since i suck at predicting anything, i have no idea if this will increase it's value or decrease it. :pComment by Davin21Interesting points about the analysis paralysis - something I often find myself facing. Will have to get more stuck into things to actually start making some gold :PComment by victorinox19I'm making a lot of money now selling both sets of bags, still going to the garrison daily. Good to know there are going to be new bags, opens up a whole new set of buyers, especially at launch. That will line my pockets especially well.Comment by YokolocaWhich professions are you focusing on and why?

I think that I will focus my gold production efforts on cooking. It has been a reliable strategy to sell food on Tuesday afternoon as prices tend to increase before the beginning of the raid week. Regarding primary professions, I have always been JC (since BC) but I've been considering engineering as it always has nice perks. Do you think that it would be a mistake to drop JC?

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