Whoever said the forums in WoWHead sucked because of trolls was bat%^&* crazy.The forums here, at least the randomness because I don't think I've ever posted more than 10 times not in there, is awesome. And the trolls, they just make them the win that they are =DBut anyway, I love the WoWHead forums, I always get help with stuff that I need even when it's not nearly related to the game. :)
I do think people blame a person for 'QQ'ing the moment he talks about class balance too fast.Surprisingly, it's almost always those people playing the class that's being complained about, or those that have a class wich has it easier against the class wich gets the negative feedback/balance comment.it's a FACT that classes aren't balanced, and there isn't any explanation around it. Why do you think certain arena combo's are seen in great quantities AND are also seen the most at the top rating? Coincidence? Right. I QQ when they have the gall to not even admit it, but also try to counter with the spells that can counter them, even though they usually bring up abilities/spells wich have higher cooldowns , where theirs sometimes even lack a cooldown.Simple pve example= I use my mage, lvl79 to mine in scholazar. I see the rare Trex. I attack. Trex is immune to snares and cc. I die. Lvl 77 DK arrives, solo's T-rex without too much of a hassle, and runs off happily with loot. Simple fact of imbalance in pve. Of course I don't cry about the DK, since I know a few other classes can solo the rex at that level as well. But you can see how some people would act that moment, saying:"Damn those dk's, with their ability to solo any group content, while I'm stuck having to group up with nabs whenever a group q hits my quest log."Similar things happen in pvp. Unless each class gets 1 button (attack), all the same sets, and exactly the same weapon, QQ's will continue to flow. Oh wait, even then, they'll prolly QQ:"I was distracted by that Draenei's girl's breasts, NERF THEM!"
"I was distracted by that Draenei's girl's breasts, NERF THEM!"This is the most win I have ever heard.Anyway, I wouldn't consider myself a troller, more like someone that is bored too easy. When someone tells me directly "Troll, troll is bad" then I leave it at that and don't continue. Also, on a side note, many of the ret paladins that have been able to raid at least Karazhan Pre-Wrath have been the ones that have been noticing the QQ coming from the newly rolled paladins speccing ret because it's viable now, but nobody really played ret in TBC (except some lucky horde BE) so the majority doesn't even know what it's like to be a ret pally and instantly go and QQ with every nerfbat swing or mechanic change that comes when they don't even know how bad it was and how balanced they are in Wrath. Plus, right now all the devs and etc. are doing is mechanics changes for Ret right now and most seem to be making the class even more balanced so shut up Ret QQers. I don't mind the ret trolls, they're just funny, but the QQers on ret changes are just being dumb and don't understand their class as well as they should.
Awesome article. Enjoyed reading it, and i think you made a really good point in regards to ppl QQ'ing all the time. Don't think its gonna help much though.As for your question, what bothers me is the class i play >Rogue< and the way Blizzard is treating it at the moment. The problem isn't that they're nerfing burst, but that they're nerfing our burst when they should be looking at Paladin and DK's instead. And im talking PvP here, but I know we arent doing too well in PvE either.So yesterday I read this on MMO champion:We are pretty happy with the paladin overhaul from Lich King.Basically what they're saying is: We're fine with Paladins being OP. At this point I dont even want to QQ anymore, because clearly they dont listen. All I can do is wait and hope to God they dont ^&*! this up anymore...
One thing that REALLY drives me up the wall is people who call "First!" on pretty much anything - Blue posts on the main forums, and increasingly on some of my favorite blogs - because they think that makes them better people or something. Maybe it's a personal thing, but I feel like people who do that should be banned... from life.QQ! haha what makes me QQ is the people in not just wow but in life that complain about things that dont matter
Additionally, I think people - or in this case players - complain more vehemently when things are going relatively well. I suppose this supports your theory of the "it is almost what I want...." Take roleplayers. When there are many non-roleplayers on their servers explicitly trying to show off how they are not roleplaying, the roleplayers on server unite in complaining about the non-roleplayers. As soon as they seem to be winning that battle, they break up into smaller "tribes" and start to complain about each other. Those who follow PvP and those who follow PvE, even those who focus on Professions seem to be the same.Plus, I think the pervading believe in internet anonymity encourages people to complain, feeling that they can get their frustrations out there without any social repercussions.
They come from storks.
QQ makes me fap in raids<3Is troll random or is troll abusive? (actual question, what is trolling per-say?
This is a fantastic blog, btw. It attempts to logically analyze the one of the most dysfunctional behaviors of the playerbase. As far as Wowhead is concerned, I love everything about the site, to be honest. The only thing that bothers me is how common it is for people to be negative and snarky---but that has nothing to do with Wowhead. That phenomenon occurs on 99% of the message boards on the Internet.I think people are entertained by clever, snarky people on TV and Movies, so they try being snarky in the hopes of appearing clever themselves. However, the average person is devoid of the sharp wit and comedic talent required to pull it off, so they just end up sounding like jerks.
People QQ because what they picture in their head does not match up with the end result. This is actually true, psychologists say that people are unhappy not because bad things happen, but because people did not see those things coming. Now, if you roll a lock or a shammy now, then you know they might not be all that amazing, but you cannot complain because you can only see things getting worse. If they get better, then one can assume that the love will keep coming. Now, people can complain about the good ole days, but they are complaining because they want things to go back to that/ were expecting that.but thats my takexD
"Well darling, it all began when Rogues were created...."NONONONONONONONO
Haha, when i first discovered wowhead i thought all it was was forums and talent calculator. Now i occasionally **cough* always use it for looking up stuff but mainly still use it for the forums.
I bet the reason why blizzard doesn't create a dishonor system like that because some ppl would exploit it corpse camp a lowbie until guards will attack them (but if the guards could attack them they could attack guards) thus attack all npcs and be a griefer. Example: a lvl 80 tauren hunter goes 2 ashenvale and camps and alliance guy fr 20 minutes until he get the dishonor debuff which makes guards attack him he goes 2 razor hill and kills all the guards and quest givers and until ppl stop playing all 2gether then he logs on his ally alt and brags 2 his friends that he just stopped 10 hordies from lvling up and ganking ally. But the dishonor system would work if killing lowbies ally in ashenvale would spawn guards from astranaar and put a 30 min debuff that doesn't allow u 2 enter BGs or arenas or gain any honorpoints. But then ppl would exlpoit that and noobs would be griefer 2 AOE grinding enemy players by getting caught in their AOEs and die and give the horde the debuff. Also I wish that in the next xpac there would be a rank of polymorph that can sheep demons and giants
Personally I do not think there is something wrong with World of Warcraft. The game itself has evolved into something that is much better than the game was at release in February 2005.What bothers me, and makes me angry, is the change in peoples' attitude. I do not know from what that thinking happened to grow that e.g. some people deserve loot from raids, while others do not deserve it. Or that thing about pro-gamers and casual gamers. This is just plain silly.All that QQ'ing about a game that's meant for kids aged 12... Technically the game gives no reason to QQ, the gameplay has improved and I have no good memories about the "old" 40-men raids, they were a waste of resources, and bound to much playtime to the grinding thing.In the end I think that people just like to QQ. It does not have any relation to WoW or Wowhead, it's just human nature that sucks.I agree...so much, especially about the pro-gamer/casual gamer comment. Unless an outside company is paying or sponsoring you to sit in front of your monitor for a predetermined amount of time for a paycheck, nothing anyone ever does, arena "tournament" included is anything near professional. I suppose the closest you could get would be a gaming consultant playing the game for research purposes, but you're still getting an outside check."Pro" gamers...oh the chuckles.The game does evolve, unfortunately the attitudes of the gaming community in that 12-17 age bracket do not. Although that's not anything out of the ordinary, kids will be kids, whiny, !@#$%y, entitlement-complex-developing kids...Not to say they're all like that, just a majority. Unless a server can find me a trade channel that doesn't prove my point. :PI don't think I'm approaching the "older" gamer crowd at age 23. I think I'm far more accepting of the casual play style, since I've had outside responsibilities that make sitting in front of WoW for more than an hour or two near impossible every night of the week.I think it's the realization of the developers that larger and larger populations of the subscribers were changing into casuals. I mean, you can be a hardcore raider, you can choose to set aside those hours, regardless of how full your pre-teen, teen, adult, older adult lives and schedules are. But they know that probably less than 50% of the 12 million people actually choose to do that, and the game needed to evolve to not "lose" those gamers, to give them things to do and content to see with their limited time.Hardcore still exists, you just get done with everything a hell of a lot quicker than before. Casuals aren't bad, they just seem to have less to &*!@ and moan about I suppose.
Me I dont QQ because i dont really think about things I dont like I just have fun I think world of warcraft is a great game and people who do QQ I think its ok that they get to say what they think every1 gets an opinion they just want something to change and maybe it will, its a mmo which means its always going to change so just have fun! :3