PvP in wow is great simple fun...even if your in pretty dodgy gear if you know how to play your class in a pvp situation.
I leave the PvP to WAR
Well you know...new battlegrounds, vehicles, vehicles don't stack with stats so level doesn't metter, try it
I used to ONLY play PvP. Why, you ask? PvP is dynamic, if you are facing people who are equal matches gear wise, your enemy is not a warlock or a hunter or a mage, your enemy is the complexity and agility of the other persons mind. IMO, PvP will always be more mentally captivating than a scripted boss fight.
I'm just naturally anticonfrontational, I prefer the challenge of trying to puzzle out a complicated boss fight to bashing my head against the wall that is other people. I never really liked fighting games much either, mostly because I didn't see the point of playing them.Why am I fighting this battle? What's in it for me? There's no progress. Even in most non-RPG games that don't have any elements of character progression, defeating this enemy allows me to progress through a zone, and I can't finish the level until I defeat him. In a fighting game, I can fight whoever I want whenever I want and there's no feeling that I'm accomplishing anything.I guess the feeling most people get out of it, "I just beat that other guy" is meaningless to me. Sometimes I'll PvP in WoW for the gear (such as in BC when the arena gloves were best-in-slot for my ret paladin) but I won't do it for its own sake.
I leave the PvP to WARQFTI almost left with my friends for WAR (Warhammer Online) with my friends when it came out 'cause none of us could stand to keep getting bulldozed in PvP. I'm the only one who's stayed because the other aspects of WoW still pull me in.WAR does do a better job with PvP though. there's much less of a gear difference (not entirely gone, but much less emphasized) and the classes and gameplay focus somewhat more on balance / counterparts.
I am a Street Fighter veteran. The only SF I missed was the original. So since SF2 I have been playing. I've always enjoyed Street Fighter in particular because it was a game of skill and style. Street Fighter Alpha 3 IMO is the best fighting game ever made. It was solid, fairly balanced, and just fun. I think my biggest annoyance with WoW is the common beleif that PvP is even remotely competitive. That having a high arena rating actually means something. (In fact in means very little)In SF often you have your character which you choose. You learn him/her/it insides out. Understand game mechanics and you go. Experience/Reflexes will earn you a win and mashing buttons will not.In WoW there are many elements that break pvp. First, not all is balanced. In fact, in some cases it is so lop-sided it isn't even funny. Second there is gear. Gear NEVER evens out the battle. In fact it will often unbalance it completely. This is why I felt WoW pvp was just garbage. All the ratings are nothing more than ways of showing how you beat mirror versions of your group. To me, WoW pvp has become RPG deathmatch and it blows. Completely built on burst and spike dmg/healing. It is nonsense and not even remotely competitive. While there may be RL comparisons of sports that have a "one or two hits does it all" element to them WoW pvp doesn't do what they do.... entertain.I bet the last time you've done PvP was as a level 10 huntard.Anyway, as Street Fighter, when I want a special attack I just /mashallbuttons and hope I get lucky. The Street Fighter Games I have are X-Men vs Street Fighter and *Some company beginning with a C I think that helped make Spider-man games* vs Street Fighter
I used to ONLY play PvP. Why, you ask? PvP is dynamic, if you are facing people who are equal matches gear wise, your enemy is not a warlock or a hunter or a mage, your enemy is the complexity and agility of the other persons mind. IMO, PvP will always be more mentally captivating than a scripted boss fight.This.I couldn't agree more. From the start, PvP for me was like dealing damage, with the subtle difference of knowing when to stun or interrupt. Then, I decided to get into PvE, I learned quite some shiz. But it's far more frustrating to go into a raid, spend 4 hours killing 3 crappy bosses, and fin that you have no good loot for you, or if you do, that someone else can have it.... I'd rather stay with PvP where I'm sure to get honor rewards according to my performance and my groups' performance as well. I'll admit it, PvE is a must-do for leveling, and for gearing up... I enjoy it, but not as much as PvP. Call me crazy, but I enjoy losing 90% of the time against a player, more than losing to an npc...Now, my char is dedicated to healing in PvP. Why? 2 reasons. 1- I love it, can't get enough of it. 2- If my group is alive, then they can win, thus they have fun. If they have fun, they'll go on PvPing, wich is good for the community. Most people drop PvP cause they "die too much" or other crappy reasons. If me healing can solve that, then it's ok for me. Give PvP a try people!
I find street fighter harder to play.. at least right now, since my 360 is refusing the acknowledge its existence :(
I have always enjoyed player versus player fighting in World of Warcraft (as an example).True, some players have godly equipment, but every once in a while fate grants me with uber skills.
but I've never PvPed with an honest eye towards winning If you don't like PvP, or you are not really good at it, and don't want to improve... Why do BGs at all? I mean, if winning is not you primary goal, you are a liability for your team by default. No offence meant. Its like coming to raid without reading some info on the boss, and with red gear/no reagents.P.S.: And I hate Tekken for that combo crap. You need to have 20 fingers on each hand to do those =/
I hated PvP for the longest time until I got bored of raiding. It took me a while, but eventually I saw the light... The reason I wasn't surviving was because I didn't have enough Resilience. I got myself some PvP gear, and started having FUN. IMO you have to start somewhere... Just like getting into raiding, you have to take your sucky DPS and grind Heroics. For PvP, you have to take your crappy survivability and get into BGs... Get some Ghetto PvP gear and learn to adapt.TL;DR: Don't PvP in PvE gear. You will get raped.
It sounds like Street Fighter IV is doing what Dead or Alive has been doing all along. The more deadly moves in DoA are countering your opponents moves by predicting what they'll do next. Sounds like SF4 might actually be worth looking into (never been much of a fan towards the series). Thanks for the info.
That's why there are spirit rezers in PvP, so you can die, respawn, die, respawn, die, respawn, die, respawn, die, respawn, die, respawn, die, respawn, die, respawn, die, respawn, die, respawn, die, respawn, die, respawn, die, respawn, die, respawn, die, respawn, die, respawn, die, respawn, die, respawn, die, respawn, die, respawn, die, respawn, die, respawn, die, respawn, die, respawn, die, respawn, die, respawn.......I get knocked down, but I get up again...
I have a hunch that those willing to invest the time to get the gear and the experience to excel in PvP are people who wouldn't mind playing fighting games. What about you?Lulz, so ur saying ones preferences in an mmorpg reflect their wanting to play a fighting game or not?First off i would have to say that classes that require more button mashing are gona be teh classes in which people who play fighting games would play. Impulsiveness is more of the determining factor in this. Which does somewhat verify your hunch, as in Pvp is a lot more impulsive, but does not mean that PvE players dont like fighting games. This is gona sound racist but whatever. Aisians who play wow are more likely to roll rogues, priests and mages (statistics my friends). They are also more likely to pve. Yet, most fighting games are developed by asians and played by asians.A positive correlation i see, but a direct influence i see not.
I do not have the mental capacity for PvP. The adrenaline rush i get when I PvP is so overwhelming that I shake and can't choose which skill to use next, pretty much making me a free honor kill. I like lore, and downing those impossible bosses is much more fun to me than going head to head with a 12 year old.
ya, im getting to 80 so i dont have to worry about diadvantages anymore and so that i can get decent gear.I do not have the mental capacity for PvP. The adrenaline rush i get when I PvP is so overwhelming that I shake and can't choose which skill to use next, pretty much making me a free honor kill. i have that problem too sometimes, but what i do is i try to calm myself down and not think who is on the other side of the screen.
CAD comic and why he draw itPersonnaly, i never liked street fighter games... i am bound to MK
I leave the PvP to WARQFTI almost left with my friends for WAR (Warhammer Online) with my friends when it came out 'cause none of us could stand to keep getting bulldozed in PvP. I'm the only one who's stayed because the other aspects of WoW still pull me in.WAR does do a better job with PvP though. there's much less of a gear difference (not entirely gone, but much less emphasized) and the classes and gameplay focus somewhat more on balance / counterparts.If I may bring some balance to the WAR praise here, who wins in oRvR is ~80% determined by who has the biggest zerg so I'm kind of baffled that you say that one of the reasons you went to WAR to "get away" from getting bulldozed in PvP. Either you have a very big guild on a server where your own faction is of noticeably larger populace than the other, or you're deluding yourself.Not to mention, WAR 1v1 isn't even on the same continent of balance as WoW's is. No, I'm not saying 1v1 IS balanced in WoW, but it's a damn sight closer and quite a lot more skill involved that in WAR where it's usually determined by which classes are battling out - fairly equal large groups battling it out are the only area besides already mentioned reduced need for gear to be competitive at which WAR has WoW at a distinct disadvantage, but that usually only happens in prem vs. prem scenarios. PuG vs PuG scenarios are much the same as in WoW's bgs - whoever happens to have the most healers tend to have the upper hand.I wouldn't say either is better though, since they two games are more different than people tend to give them credit for. I personally consider the PvP in WAR closer to that of EVE than WoW - more emphasis on roles for induvidual players and very large scale "world PvP" with multiple alliances each with multiple guilds in on the move for both factions.
I dont get it. To me it doesnt sound like a blog post but more like another whine post about how its so unfair that people who have better gear than you will beat you. And i cant take it serious when you say that stuff about lowbies having a handicap. WELL YES OFCAUSE, THATS HOW LEVELS WORK. jesus, stop doing low lvl BG's (unless you wanna twink) and level up. Then if you dont like PvP, fine dont do it.