Can WoW still be played in Australia just not sold?
Can WoW still be played in Australia just not sold?They still can play it, but can't buy WotLK.Can they like buy it from internet ? That could make sense.
Blizzard said it's legal. You dare question Blizzard? Blasphemer! :-)
As far as I was aware it has been and should always be legal to buy WoW in Australia. Lich King is on the shelves and plus if it was not allowed to be there, there would be a massive news roll about its call-back or something. Because I'm sure major gaming stores would not want a ruined reputation about selling illegal games
Haha no 1st Amendment sucks for you.
Um, read the actual blog.
Haha no 1st Amendment sucks for you.That doesn't have any relevance to this.I'm beginning to wonder if you read the blog - or even the the thread title.
I can't see why WoW Insider would gain anything on lying about this, so I'm gonna trust them. Blizzard on the other hand are known to have lied multiple times about several things or at least heavily altered the truth, they don't deserve to be trusted. IMO, Blizzard are afraid that people will know they made a mistake.
I've heard nothing of this in the news, and it'd be something our crappy newsreaders would jump on
I can't see why WoW Insider would gain anything on lying about this, so I'm gonna trust them. Blizzard on the other hand are known to have lied multiple times about several things or at least heavily altered the truth, they don't deserve to be trusted. IMO, Blizzard are afraid that people will know they made a mistake.What mistake? No MMO can really be given a proper rating, and if Australia says they don't want games without a rating being sold then WoW has to either somehow get a rating or not sell in Australia. Same would go for just about any other MMO afaik...
As a resident Aussie, maybe I can fill the blanks in here a bit for those not familiar with the situation.Our classification body, the OFLC (Office of Film & Literature Classification) has been in the news now worldwide for it's somewhat unique standards for the assessment of interactive media. Games were only rated dating from the mid 90s when films and other media obviously were much earlier. The problem lies in that our system is severely outdated and hasn't really been modified in standard since it's inception, back in the age when gaming was more of a niche kid's hobby. Several studies here in Oz have now revealed the average age of the gamer to be well over 30 so there's been a public outcry for a change to the system, seeing as we're still stuck without an R classification for gorier or more risque titles. You probably heard that games like Silent Hill 5, F.E.A.R. 2, Dark Sector and of course Fallout 3 probably being the most infamous of the time (forcing content change of the game worldwide, just because of our system) among others have had a real hard time getting a clean release here. Most of them eventually made or are making it here but the red tape involved in modding/reapplying/reclassifying just bloats the whole process out, frustrating the publishers (costing them money) and the potential players (making them wait longer for class-A games).Now, the recent ruling as I understand it is that the OFLC now wants online interactions rated under the classification code as opposed to just offline, so that clause about "Gaming experience may change online" doesn't fly anymore apparently according to beaurocracy. How they expect a non-linear, unpredictable series of interactions to be gauged and classified is utterly beyond me and obvious showing of why we need a serious change of government in this country (the man responsible for most of the issues we're suffering is the South Australian Governor General, Michael Atkinson; any changes to policy must be agreed by all states and he constantly stands in the way with his antiquated, illogical, "Think of the children!" mentality).So of course, games that are online-only are effectively un-rated and theoretically "banned" under our classification system. Personally, I think it's a whole much-ado about nothing because I seriously don't expect WoW to start being pulled off shelves over here. At the end of the day, they'll likely have to abbreviate the rough nuances of games like WoW much like I understand the ESRB (the American equiv. you guys are more familiar with); like alchohol use, blood, mild "themes" (whatever that's supposed to mean), etc etc etc.Hopefully that clears things up. Wall of text crits for over 9000!
see if you can clear something up for me they are banning it because of a outdated system and from what i understand a governor who uses a line people have used in america to get what they want and they give no more reason then that so if i understood that correctly well yeah that makes perfect sence if you ask me /end sarcasm (btw if i idd not understand it correctly then plese correct me i am not trying to be a troll or anything and i actually do not know what a troll is and i am being very serious here
I'm gonna have to trust Blizz on this one. They have all the reasons for lying, but hey if it's still on the shelves who cares :>P.S. And also I know they will ban me if I blastpheme against them! They're watching us all o_0 Fear the wrath crit of over 9000!
see if you can clear something up for me they are banning it because of a outdated system and from what i understand a governor who uses a line people have used in america to get what they want and they give no more reason then that so if i understood that correctly well yeah that makes perfect sence if you ask me /end sarcasm (btw if i idd not understand it correctly then plese correct me i am not trying to be a troll or anything and i actually do not know what a troll is and i am being very serious hereSort of. It's not a direct attack on WoW or any particular game, but a case of a politician trying to revoke our own liberty from us by imposing his standards on the populace. They want online interactions rated, not games banned. The issue is that online-only games aren't rated under the current system and are technically "banned" until such time as they are rated.
considering Wow has a net nanny feature built in for the foul mouthed drawves gnomes and warlocks in trade and you have to actually turn it off if you want to know what that guy just called you....ok to long! anyway blizz makes a point of keeping it clean for those that would be offended... though i still don't want to know who the local boozers are in stormwind when i'm there.Every one is getting drunk on Hard lemonade
Haha no 1st Amendment sucks for you.Eh wot?The First Amendment to the United States Constitution is the part of the United States Bill of Rights that expressly prohibits the United States Congress from making laws "respecting an establishment of religion" or that prohibit the free exercise of religion, laws that infringe the freedom of speech, infringe the freedom of the press, limit the right to peaceably assemble, or limit the right to petition the government for a redress of grievances. - Wikipedia.comHow this applies to wow being banned in australia I have no idea. As far as I'm concerned since there's been on major hype about removing or getting recalled from the shelves (as someone else has already previouslly stated) it's still available for sale and use. Till such time as the cops come around to my house, beat me up with thier death sticks and remove my pc (under much duress I can assure you) I'll still continue to throw e-bolts at the horde and other such nonsense that threatens my e-toon's life.
Want me to make this easy? Rate the game Mature (or the same effective rating) so that you're protected if someone nefariously types the "!@#$" word into their chat box, and you've given the game a rating. Sure, maybe some kids will need to get their parents to by the game for them, but at least it's not a crime any more.
This is actually all a beat up over a comment that a government body made which was incorrect. The body in question has no authority in the area of games classification.WoW is not actually a game according to our classification board as they have 3 classifications:* Standalone game (no online components) - Must be classified.* Game that includes standalone and online components - Must be classified. The Board does not take into account the online components, but may include a consumer advice that the gaming experience may change online.* Online only game - not a computer game for the purposes of the Classification Act. This is due to the fact that the product sold in stores does not include a computer game, but rather provides data to access an online game.For more info:http://www.kotaku.com.au/games/2009/02/blizzard_wow_is_sold_legally_in_australia_after_all.html
How this applies to wow being banned in australia I have no idea.Because with no First Amendment the government can make laws that restrict freedom of speech.In AMERICA there are private rating systems for movies and games, but there are no government rating boards that can compel game companies and retailers with force of law.
Of course it can be compelled, because the Supreme Court has said that the First Amendment is not absolute, and among the things that can be regulated are matters of a "prurient" nature (cussing, lewd acts, etc.) I know of no fundamental law that says speech is privileged under any circumstances and for all content. The reason games and movies are self-governed is because the industry's argument is that self-enforcement is better than government policing. Sen. Lieberman would happily eviscerate the ESRB to place a Federal ratings system in place if people cared enough to write the legislation.