uhmm no. you just need to ride out the 1-80 grind like everyone else did, this is another perk for hitting 80 and spending a few bucks.
To those who think there is too many restrictions, could have handled it better etc. what are thinking? First off, this is the first post about it, knowing blizzard they are probably going to change a couple things to say the least (good and/or bad).And haven't you guys ever heard of playing it safe? They don't want to make it have no restrictions at all, have everyone abuse it and then say "whoops...". They also don't want to get people's hopes up and then have them crushed once it's nerfed. Blizzard does not like nerfing on every patch but they can't go buffing everyone anyhow cause then everything would be out of control. If blizzard brings something out that will help everyone... be happy. Don't say "It's not good enough."k done ranting.
Second point, I'm not sure if there is a lexicon of power in Dalaran? If there is, than it would still be a neat feature. if there isn't one in Dalaran, they better add one! :(There is.I don't know if I read this differently then everyone else - but from my take, Scribes create whatever item allows you to respec away from a Lexicon of Power. It did not directly state that it had a requirement of use allowing only scribes to activate it.To be honest, the change in Glyphs will probably create a pretty noticeable decline in Inscription's profitability. Right now, I only buy glyphs cause I have to replace them while respeccing - once you find a good glyph setup, you don't really need to buy them again. This will reduce the need for them overall. So, I do see the respec item being able to be sold to give scribes some income.That said - I'm still all for it. :]
I'm looking forward to the change. I find it interesting that people are complaining though. This is better than nothing. Blizzard could have left it the way it was but they are at least making some changes to help.
I think this is mostly fair, except I think the "max-level only" rule is a bit tough. I'm glad to see they'll be reviewing it.I'm a little unsure as to why they've limited it to 2 specs only. Perhaps they could have as many specs as you like, but a new ability (or Rank) is required per added spec, with an exponentially increasing price (perhaps 500g for a second spec, 5000g for a third, 50000g for a fourth).That way, for example, a druid could see to each of their possible layouts (melee dps, ranged dps, healing, tanking), or players could have both PvE and PvP specs for each talent tree.I guess the hard limit of 2 specs is there to stop people from rolling on every single item that drops.
This way you will get ppl roll on gear that there not specced for atm, while the person that is specced for it will miss the loot. If you're in groups with idiots like that, seriously, blacklist them. NOBODY should EVER roll Need on an off spec item if there is someone in the raid / party that needs the upgrade for their main spec. It might become an issue if nobody really needs it, increasing the Greed rolls by a bit, but common sense should be enough to keep most people from using Dual Specs as an excuse to do stupid ****.Except with dual specs, we'll have 2 main specs, not 1 main and 1 off. That rule will (unfortunately) go out the window for many.
I'm shocked at how thorough they made this change. I was expecting a total hassle with all these kind of things when switching specs. But they really designed it so you could fully switch out with a minimum of pain.As a player that made the mistake of playing Pure classes, I feel a bit jealous - this makes Hybrids really much more powerful. It is gonna be crazy cool for a Druid to be able to Tank one encounter and then Heal the next in raids. MAkes class balance a lot easier for raid guilds too.But, as a casual player, it will just be real nice to swap PvE<-->PvP specs. Looking forward to seeing this in game.
^&*! this is gonna mean that people are gonna want the plate dps and kitty druids to tank....
R.I.P. talent calculatordoes anyone know how much this will decrease cost for dk's and warriors who tank (or any tank for that matter) not having to respec for every dungeon?this is pure gold saved (uh blizzard may i make a comment "cough" respeccing is one of the biggest money sinks in the game how do ya plan to offset that? more epic 15k mounts?)Dont be so sure about it.. Learning the "dual-spec" ability requires a one-time fee, paid to your trainer. No word yet on how much it might be. .. see? there should be some laaaarge money sink.. something like 5k, 10k.. nothing is impossible with blizz..
Wow, I was expecting them to handle this a LOT better. The max level thing is ridiculous for a start. I was SO looking forward to being able to switch out of Tanking and Fury once I hit Outlands on my Warrior. Guess not. And the Lexicon of Power thing? Eugh. Fair enough in the cities, I'd have MUCH rather it having a long CD changing out of cities or whatnot. Not everyone is a hardcore raider with a scribe always next to them. Or perhaps even paying some amount of gold to change out of cities (Yes, I'd even prefer that)Yes, this is essentially me taking everything for granted and yes it's better than nothing and yes this is QQ.But I'm still severly dissapointed.Wow, seriously dude...First of all, who cares if you have to wait til max level to have it, most respeccing happens at max level. Which is why I assume they're really even implementing it. Want to tank in outlands? go tank spec, its still entirely possible to level, I leveled from 70-80 as resto, takes some time, sure but do-able.The Lexicon of Power thing? Again, so what? You have to go to a town to respec now anyway, just the same before only now it's FREE and you won't have to spend time actually putting in your talent points. Sure, not everyone is a hardcore raider, but if you're not, why would you need to respec just anywhere anyway? Odds are if you're 80 and looking for a heroic or something, you're in a town, so should you need to respec, you're already there. No extra time taken. I can't think of a reason why someone would need to respec in the middle of doing their dailies...And yes, you are taking a great thing for granted and it is most certainly NOT a QQ. This is a great idea and I will QQ if they ever take it away as I respec quite often (healing for raids, dps for dailies and what have you), I see nothing wrong with this system.Some people expect way too much from Blizzard.Also, two sets of glyphs... FAWESOME! That's one thing I was really hoping for, so long spending 200+g a week in respec charges :D
I can't believe this.It's awesome!(Too bad it won't work for low levels, but I digress.)
Edited the original topic to specify that the item which creates a Lexicon of Power is purchasable by other players.
I like very much. I hope they don't expand it to lower levels. For someone like me, it would be pretty unfair. I'm leveling my priest as holy spec, and that is obviously bit harder than shadow, though its still easier than most of classes. But my point is, that I'm doing it so I would get lot of dungeon runs. Now if dual-spec would be available to low lvls, any shabby shadow priest could join instance as healer and just go change his/her spec. For free.Dual spec for lower levels would just make using any other talent build than the "best one for leveling" very stupid, because you could always have healing / tanking / pvp or any other spec there for free when you would need it.I'm having a hard time seeing why this is a bad thing. Sure, a shadow priest would be able to simply re-spec to heal for any low-level dungeon. And your argument is that you are leveling holy in order to get dungeon runs and allowing anybody to simply switch to holy to heal is going to hurt you.The other side of that, though, is that now you don't have to level as holy, so you can level much easier and faster and still switch to healing as you like. And while this may give YOU a frowny-face, it helps the majority of the playing population as a whole, which I think is what Blizzard was going for moreso then catering to you personally.Now any healing class can just switch to healing spec for low level dungeons, which is good for groups due to the general shortage of healers during leveling. And let's face it, you're not going to be there for every single run on every single server. Some of us don't have mid-level healing classes just waiting in the wings to heal us through our mid-level dungeons. Also, it will give more healers more practice healing BEFORE they get to max level, which I'm definitley not going to complain about.As a last little aside, I think making dual-spec a max level thing is kinda silly, since max level isn't always going to be the same thing.
This game is getting easier by the second./sighMaybe next patch Blizzard will start leveling your character for you or begin spoon-feeding you gear.Is it just me or does anyone else miss the good ol' level 60 Warcraft days?
WOOT! now paladin is ultimate PvE >:]
This game is getting easier by the second./sighMaybe next patch Blizzard will start leveling your character for you or begin spoon-feeding you gear.Is it just me or does anyone else miss the good ol' level 60 Warcraft days?You mean the days where my Shaman had to spec Resto to do any endgame instances but Resto didn't have any of the cool talents like Earth Shield and Riptide that it has now?Or the days where being properly geared for an endgame instance meant having a minimum level of some stupid resist?Or the days where if you ran a top level instance and you didn't win any gear, it was a complete waste of time (no rep or badges/emblems)?Nope. Never miss it :)
This game is getting easier by the second./sighMaybe next patch Blizzard will start leveling your character for you or begin spoon-feeding you gear.Is it just me or does anyone else miss the good ol' level 60 Warcraft days?It's not easier, it just hasn't got harder at the same rate you expect it to. Why the hell can't people tell the difference?It's not easier to get to level 80 than it was to get to level 60. You have 20 more levels to make up.As far as spoon-feeding us gear, bring it on. Not all of us live in our parents basement, with 8 hours a day to commit to hardcore raiding. We pay the same amount of money per month you do. And don't give me the same old *!@#e "we play more hours so we deserve better rewards", because that's BS. You're playing for the wrong reasons. The reward is playing the game itself. The game is the journey, not the end. This game has no end.
Personally, I can not WAIT for this to come out. My main is a NE Hunter, and I QQ'd a lot over losing BM due to needing to raid.I love exotic pets, I'm a hunter because of the pets I can run.This will allow me to raid AND keep my exotics.This can not start soon enough. =)
"we play more hours so we deserve better rewards", because that's BS. You're playing for the wrong reasons. The reward is playing the game itself. The game is the journey, not the end. This game has no end.So you don't think working harder warrants better results?I beg to differ.
"we play more hours so we deserve better rewards", because that's BS. You're playing for the wrong reasons. The reward is playing the game itself. The game is the journey, not the end. This game has no end.So you don't think working harder warrants better results?I beg to differ.Consider the fact that you can invest your time in something other than raiding in WoW.