So... now we have to do LFR, Normals AND Flexibles to get geared? Great, cause it's not like I felt I had to raid all the freaking time before...I know right! This is a slap in the face! How dare Blizzard give you more options on how to play the game! Seriously though... sounds like you should take a break from WoW, because you seem to be treating WoW as a job rather than a GAMElol it is a job anyway... Think about it hard... We in a sense, work, to get gear :P
You’ll also be able to complete portions of your “Glory of the Orgrimmar Raider” raid meta- achievement in Flexible mode as well as in Normal or Heroic to earn cosmetic rewards such as an epic mount.Say what? Glory of the Orgrimmar Raider?
Personally, I don't think flex raiding will have that much of an overall effect except that I think its a good thing for guilds that want to run 25m but often come up 3-4 people short or for guilds which run 10m's and often have to sit people or keep them on as reserve raiders.
Wait just one minute... Is it me or is LFR basically useless now? oh wow... it kinda is... what the heck man? Why would anyone do LFR anymore now? Whats the point?Its not useless. Flexi-mode DOES NOT uses the LFR interface, which means you need a premade group, you have to manually invite people, and fly to the dungeon location, and communicate with each other to pull it off.This is feasible on populated realms but if you are one of those unlucky sods in a ghost-town realm where there's nobody on ever, LFR is still useful, because premades just aint happening. Ever.Having said that, now that there is a new Difficulty level, I guess on my horde toons this is great news, since my server is super-populated, so getting an invite to a flexi-mode raid wont be so hard, and due to the different lockout, it wont interfere with my normal raiding with my guild.
Tha'ts pretty awesome but would be better if you could go with less than 10 people. 5-10 atleast
Yeah, uhm well, if you think about this logically... Blizzard in fact, IS killing raiding and I can tell you why.First of all, 4 modes of raiding LFR-FLEX-NORM-HERO would kinda obviously mean that there would be many different levels of gear. NOW... let us just say for argument's sake that I WANT to start with LFR and work my way up. My question is; (I am not against so many modes) do I really want to work through four different modes of the same dungeon BUT also with the fact that the first two are cake and differ to much from the other two? And since I got so many freebies from cake mode, I will not, just not, play as much due to boredum... Point being... BRING BACK SEPERATE RAID LOCKOUTS PLEASE... Remember... 10 and 25 Normal / 10 and 25 Herioc? That would work only if blizz would friggin fix server deadness... BUT WAIT LOL... Remember how we can invite real IDs? PROBLEM SOLVED! :P Omg now that I think about it... There is almost no point of doing heriocs or normals if you think about it! There is not much else to do in those mode, therefore the game (at least for every patch) is won quickly and so there is one question to ask; can Blizzard really make money off this game like they did in the past, and, is there really much of a point to continue playing after you got all the stuff from cake modes?Um...yeah, LFR and now Flex are not going to be equal to Normal or Heroics; people will still do them for the better items, and greater achievements, as well as the sense of accomplishment.
When i see flexible i think how about between 5 - 10 man instead of 10 - 25 man. I seen days where you barely get a group of 10 going let along a group up to 25.
>>“Glory of the Orgrimmar Raider” raid meta- achievementThanks for this sneak peek :) .
Wasn't it obvious, was it ?
The what the...?
You’ll also be able to complete portions of your “Glory of the Orgrimmar Raider” raid meta- achievement in Flexible modeNice little hidden addendum there. No doubt it will still have Heroic boss kills as a requirement for the meta.When i see flexible i think how about between 5 - 10 man instead of 10 - 25 man. I seen days where you barely get a group of 10 going let along a group up to 25.I've seen a few comments along these lines, and while i'd like to agree, the whole "raid" aspect of doing a raid kinda breaks down when you get below 10 members. Plus i'm pretty sure the idea is to get more people to raid, not less. I remember back during Wrath, our guild would do have a 10m group, but we'd also join with a sister-guild to do 25m for the week. We may see a return of this kind of thing.
I think this is a great idea. In my guild we seem to have too many for a 10 man but not enough to fill a 25 man so the raid will adjust automatically to support the different numbers.Also how is this bad in that the last time I tried to get into a 25-man normal I had to wait an hour after accepting the raid invite due to folks were not on yet and we waited until we had a full group. After a few weeks of this the long wait got pretty old.
the basic concept is kind of nice...but the lfr loot bag system is broke. x-xget 11 people, go in, kill a boss.. RL asks 'so... do we get to gratz anybody on not getting a loot bag?' *raid is silent as it hits them they just wasted their time killing a boss for nothing... while if they had kicked the 11th person.. they would have had at least two items 100% for sure*
Fights would have to be altered too much for it to be any less then 10.
So instead of fixing the much complained about low drop rates of gear in the existing Raids, you introduce ANOTHER pointless tier of Raids?
I'd rather hear about what the last raid will be about :)
the basic concept is kind of nice...but the lfr loot bag system is broke. x-xget 11 people, go in, kill a boss.. RL asks 'so... do we get to gratz anybody on not getting a loot bag?' *raid is silent as it hits them they just wasted their time killing a boss for nothing... while if they had kicked the 11th person.. they would have had at least two items 100% for sure*Which might have been for a spec not in the raid, or might not have been an upgrade for anyone. Because that's how it goes, isn't it? You've got no pallies in your group, and healer plate drops. You've got a rogue and two druids, and they all have gear that benefits them more than the leather AGI loot that dropped.I agree that the LFR loot system needs fixing, but "wasted their time killing a boss for nothing" is a poor argument considering the number of times something drops that's only useful for putting the DE mats on the AH; or considering how the majority of gear that drops won't be for your class. I've been in runs where the only piece that dropped from 8 or 9 bosses that I could even equip (as a mage) wasn't an upgrade for me.
This.Also not sure lol
I am looking forward to this very much. I am more interested in content than loot. My husband and I enjoy playing wow for relaxing. And raiding is for sure not relaxing. Now we can raid with our small group of friends and family and have stress free fun!
Man, this sounds awesome. Almost exactly what I'm looking for. It's got my preferred loot system, the ability to take any number of friends I can get my hand on is awesome, I can get some of the achievements finished in there, I don't have to put up with random people in LFR (and the loot is better in flex raids, too!). We have some problems getting together a full 10 competent people, but we can probably find some less able filler to do these easier modes, and it'll be nice to be able to run in with 14 people if we gather too many at once. Good job, Blizzard.