Tbh, I liked Diablo 3. I remember playing the previous one and I clearly know that nostalgia makes up many things. I'm waiting for Titan, although till that I play WoW happily. I enjoyed all expansions, since I dig into secrets and explorations, I pretty much liked the lore. And yes, I play since the original "vanilla". I remember how much QQ was around that too. Today all I hear that BC was the best, since that WoW died. But my darlings, you tend to forget how massive complaining tide began with BC. I wait and I'm sure it will worth the wait, maybe not always that great, but still better than anything on the market. (Yes played GW2, leveling is nice, but after that the end game, system, crafting sucks big time.)
I agree, D3 was a HUGE disappointment, but I still believe that when it comes to designing, Blizzard are one of the best companies around. I do fear that Titan will be the end of WoW, so the more they postpone it the better. <-- I realize this comment might sound thick and biased, but a portion of the playerbase will probably move on to that and there will be less resources spent on WoW. Please correct me if I'm wrong.@Necromorta: I love you, for the plain and obvious fact that you threw down the word "Nostalgia", as it does influence a lot of things. in the case of D3 it wasn't nostalgia (since I've never played D2) but the simple fact that the game was laggy and had no endgame... Thankfully our frosty overlords realized this and fixed that.
No till I see even an alpha testing or stills of Titan I'm calling Shenanigans on them. Blizzard has lied to many times in the past for me to believe them.Them lying, and you building on fan-based hype and believing it to be true are not one and the same.Diablo 3, for what it is (and the huge time gap from D2: LoD to D3 was not all dev time), is a great game, that continues to improve over time... JUST LIKE DIABLO 2 DID. How many people can say that D2 was the nostalgia-magnet that it is based on the content BEFORE the expansion? How many even remember playing it pre-LoD? I do, and frankly, wasn't so great. LoD made it way better, as did the usual continuous iterative process Blizzard is known for.Frankly, if they make a game that pushes hardware most people can barely afford, they risk alienating a larger group of gamers, due to them being under a budget. Sorry to say, but that has NEVER been Blizzard's approach... why design for system specs 98% of the playerbase can't hope to see, when the resources can be spent better elsewhere? I'm sorry, but pipe-dream much?The fact they are making technological changes, means that they may have access to a new engine and other features that would prove to be far more useful than to use older tech they started work on. That is good. Would you all have been happy if it looked like a game from 2009, coming out in 2014 or 2015? No, it would cause an absolute storm of unrealistic and negative community outcry. But hey, you could have had that, if they stuck to their guns.Additionally, nobody said that Jay Wilson went to Titan. He could have been moved to Hearthstone, where it would be seen as doing very little damage (reminder: His reassignment was noted before Hearthstone was announced).Seriously... the supposed true gamer community needs to reality check themself. If this was 10 years ago, you wouldn't have a clue about most of this. Why? We didn't get this level of information back then. We didn't get much of anything, barring what announcemkents came out of E3 (which was also an industry-only conference, not the mass-public one it is now). I remember reading about game highlights from E3 or CES in Nintendo Power back in the late 90s. That is what we had. Magazines. Too many people think they are true, die-hard, gamers, that only surfaced in the last 5-6 years. I've been playing Blizzard titles since Warcraft: Orcs & Humans was CURRENT. And wanna know what? The closest to "let down" that I've been, was Cataclysm, due to a relative lack of "things to do", which even they admit was their fault.Relax a bit people and wait to see where it goes. You are assuming the end of the world, based on something we knew NOTHING about. So the fact that this nothing has been changed, means it is now going to be a newer, shinier, nothing for a while long. Oh no, the sky is falling... seriously. If you think it's some move to make it port to consoles too, cause of the released tech for the PS4 and XBox One... given the sheer time it is taking Diablo 3 to port just for PS3, I would sincerely hope that is NOT the case. Make MMOs single-platform, it means you tailor to a specific audience and control scheme. If you wanna do it on PC, just PC then. Wanna do console? Just console then. Even in some cases being console-specific (ie: Dragon Quest X is an MMO exclusive to the Wii/Wii U... I just hope Nintendo announces it coming to North America at E3, cause that will rock).Nice post. This is why the pandaren NPCs say "Slow down" etc. because ADHD-infested "gamers" (insert "but really, I'm an overwhelming personal success" claim here) vibrate all over the place. With reference to Titan, many jump to conclusions before anyone has even had a whiff of it.
Tbh, I liked Diablo 3. I remember playing the previous one and I clearly know that nostalgia makes up many things. I'm waiting for Titan, although till that I play WoW happily. I enjoyed all expansions, since I dig into secrets and explorations, I pretty much liked the lore. And yes, I play since the original "vanilla". I remember how much QQ was around that too. Today all I hear that BC was the best, since that WoW died. But my darlings, you tend to forget how massive complaining tide began with BC. I wait and I'm sure it will worth the wait, maybe not always that great, but still better than anything on the market. (Yes played GW2, leveling is nice, but after that the end game, system, crafting sucks big time.)Err...crafting sucks big time in Wow now...haunting spirits going for 8k, only dropping from d/e ToT 522 and up epics. I'm supposed to jump on an enchanter alt, run ToT and hope to get (at least) 6 or 8 items to disenchant? How many weeks is this supposed to take? Or am I solo'ing ToT? Why wouldn't I just get a raid-equivalent piece instead of going through all the hassle just to make an ilvl 522 crafted item, when one could get an equivalent item from hitting Oondasta once or just running ToT? BOE, sure, but why would anyone pay the astronomical prices for a crafted piece when they can get a raid piece?
"...With WoW down to 8.3 million subscribers..."A few reasons why this is happening:(There are many more than what I list here.)1. Group Content in Solo Regions that force players to build parties. Not every server has active Guilds. Group-only content should only be inside Instances, giving players the option of a queuing tool. Outdoors stuff should be Solo-only, so people don't have to stand in Capital cities for an hour finding that one missing Tank. Before you sing the praises of Sha of Anger and Galleon, keep in mind that you very few people actually fight them anymore. It's a pointless waste of coding.2. Items other than Gear alone being Soul Bound. There is nothing to gain by making a basic Profession Material like Spirits of Harmony Soul Bound anywhere after the first Expansion Patch.3. RIDICULOUSLY LOW Gear drop rates in Raids. Blizz-tard complains that people would "Not Enjoy" winning gear on every Raid run. How does that even seem remotely logical? Yes! People WOULD enjoy winning new Gear! That's one of the main reasons why people Raid!4. Utterly ignoring the myriad requests for simple bug fixes and minor additions in favor of new content that no one really wants. It's been almost a decade and Hunter/Warlock Pets STILL can't jump off ledges!If Removed would pay attention to what the community actually wants instead of cramming pointless junk down our throats, they wouldn't lose so many subscriptions.
WoW is down to 8.3 million subscribers? I can no longer imagine life without WarCraft... I guess I'll have to make a Skyrim mod that recreates it all.
Diablo 3 was a filler like Halion was for Lich King. Cata didn't have anything... so out came D3.D3 was a filler? For What?They gave us D3 instead to "fill" the gap and boredom some experienced due to nothing new added after Dragon Soul.
Point A: The more hype builds up for this game, and the longer the development takes, the more it's going to inevitably disappoint....Blizzard's "we'll release it when it's done" mentality used to be endearing but now it's mostly laughable. Times change. Expectations change. Blizzard doesn't change. It doesn't mean I want them to crank out annualized sequel garbage like many over developers do, but I would also like to see Blizzard craft a new IP or sequel from time to time that doesn't take 7-10 freaking years to develop. I'm sure Titan will be a good game, but it won't be THAT good to where it's like "oh yeah, I can totally see why they spent so much time making this game!". See point A. Ironically, they'll release Titan "when it's done", but no blizzard game is ever done. It will launch with bugs and broken features and will be continually patched, JUST LIKE ALL THEIR OTHER GAMES.Taking nearly 3 years to release an expansion for Starcraft 2 is unacceptable. The only game developer glacially slower than Blizzard are Team ICO, developers of ICO and Shadow of the Colossus, who failed to release a product at all in the last eight years, despite working on a game the whole time.
yeah, crafting is wow is annoyingly expensive and sometimes (usually if it's armor) pointless, but at least the actual system you use to do it makes sense. gw2 crafting is just awkward as hell
...8 mil subs still. probably the same reason why I still play. way too much invested to just give it up. the thing I dislike the most about WoW, currently. server/community status. I could care less about drop rates, lfr, lfg, and cross-realms and god knows what else and and. sighgive me something to hold on. I don't want to pay 25$ per toon to transfer all my characters to a better server for a service I pay for already. they need to do something about populations
Diablo 3 was a filler like Halion was for Lich King. Cata didn't have anything... so out came D3.D3 was a filler? For What?They gave us D3 instead to "fill" the gap and boredom some experienced due to nothing new added after Dragon Soul. D3 may be many things but 'filler' it is not. It is one third of Bliz's holy trinity ips and not something they would spend years developing just as filler for the end of a wow exp. Personally, I think D3 had a few good ideas but overall it just lacked something. I think including runes would have been a good idea and I can agree with the person above who mentioned D2 improving quite a bit with the addition of lod and other patches which kept adding things to the game. ...8 mil subs still. probably the same reason why I still play. way too much invested to just give it up. the thing I dislike the most about WoW, currently. server/community status. I could care less about drop rates, lfr, lfg, and cross-realms and god knows what else and and. sighgive me something to hold on. I don't want to pay 25$ per toon to transfer all my characters to a better server for a service I pay for already. they need to do something about populations I agree that although realms don't quite serve the same purpose that they used to due to crz, lfr and lfd that there should be an easier way to realm transfer if you desire to rather than what there is now. Some people do like the community aspects of being on realms and being stuck on a dead server can really suck the life out of the game. I think something like one free transfer for each 3 months you play or $25 for all toons on a given realm would be workable.
Crafting Isn't Bad AT ALL in wow.I Paid 25k for a Pair of 522 Crafted boots involving 6 Haunting Spirits.It doesn't bother me at all. I'll tell you something I discovered Might not apply to a lot of servers but hopefully it'll help someone outCheck the Price for Robe of Eternal RUle on your Server. Even if the robe only goes for 2k thats still not too bad (goes for 5k o nmy server)Get a 600 tailor and buy the recipe "Robe of Eternal Rule).Buy Blood spirits for like 100g each and make a robe whenever you have 8 cloth.There you go you've spent about 800 - 1000g and made a profit.Now you can afford those Haunting Spirits to make the 522 Gear you wanted.:)
My friend's 6 year old son plays MoP because the pandas make him giggle........Let's hope this MMO doesn't end up like that.
can they PLEASE just stay on WoW? x.x I know a good number of people leaving because of the difficulty of getting gold. It may BE a purpose of the game but can they like, I don't know, sell it themselves or something?
can they PLEASE just stay on WoW? x.x I know a good number of people leaving because of the difficulty of getting gold. It may BE a purpose of the game but can they like, I don't know, sell it themselves or something?What? Gold is incredibly easy to get....
I think Blizzard made a good choice, alot of other MMOs & games were postponed and put long under development for a good amount of time, and turned out well. Ontop of that, Blizzard sent 90% of WoW's development teams back from Titan which means less anemic patches, and hopefully BC or Wrath level of content along with plenty positive changes to the game. The ability to create more content-heavy patches was already announced on MMO-Champion yesterday by Blizzard for starters. If you doubt everything Blizzard does then you are doing WoW and Blizzard a disservice by complaining about it on forums, being pessimistic/discouraging and giving Blizzard bad feedback which is the opposite of what they need to make WoW good. People who act like this are the ignorant bandwagon part of the community that just likes to follow other people's opinions or just senselessly demoralize WoW in general for things they don't like instead of giving well-structured, and constructive criticism. Here's a tip: if you doubt Blizzard and their games so much, then maybe you should come to your senses and stop playing Blizzard's games, just a hunch..as for people like Desonos, who say No till I see even an alpha testing or stills of Titan I'm calling Shenanigans on them. Blizzard has lied to many times in the past for me to believe them. Let me ask you this, would you rather have them rush to make an alpha, or have them take their time to implement these large design and technology changes to the game so Titan can be a next-gen MMO and up to par or better than promising competitors like GW2 and TESO. As Wowhead said, "In order to be a truly great next-gen MMO and breathe some new life into the genre, taking extra time to deliver an excellent product is worth the wait.." If you remember how successful WoW was in it's launch, then you'll know how easily possible it is for this to happen, just keep this in mind before doubting Blizzard on an MMO:WoW was announced in 2001 and postponed for 3 years until it was released in 2004 and became a groundbreaking game which has lasted for around 10 years now. MMO making is Blizzard's thing, so have a little faith. The choice to postpone Project:Titan's development is a perfectly reasonable and wise choice in order to make a good, and worthwhile game. Blizzard learned from Cataclysm that rushing a game in fear of competition is a bad thing and that slow and steady wins the race.In the words of Shigeru Miyamoto: A delayed game is eventually good, but a rushed game is forever bad.
In my opinion I think that Blizzard would get more people to play WoW and get the ones they have lost back if they just lowered the prices a bit like server transfers be $10 instead of 25 and monthly payments of $8-12 instead of $15. But idk I just want Blizzard to expand WoW's variety a little more with alliance and horde. Like for instance a 3rd Faction to choose from!
one free account service per account per month. ie char transfer or name change etc.I could get all my 11 toons to my desination over time, but it beats 275$I've sank thousands of dollars into this game already. I don't want to start new characters. I hate leveling.account bound character levels... level 80 druid on one server option on all maybe.maybe reduce the number of servers. when I first started this game. the idea of a small pop server seemed great. less people in your way an what not. now I realize its not great. I wanted to avoid that whole full server waiting list thing, but those days are long gone.maybe even if blizzard gave a census of how many accounts are on each server an how the faction is split.
I love how gamers have become experts at making games. The comments that this game sucked, or that game was not worth the wait. Yet these people are still commenting on the Wowhead or World of Warcraft forums. If Blizzard can't make something you like... (I hear that Rift is F2P now). Give Blizzard a break, they haven't come this far by making games that nobody plays. Everyone loved vanilla WoW, loved BC, mixed on Wrath, hated Cata, loved/hated MOP. But you are still here... you haven't left... still commenting...still posting... still concerned with what Blizzard does. If you don't like Blizzard, if you have lost your confidence in them, if you don't expect them to bring the latest and greatest next-gen mmo of all times then maybe you should reconsider your position on mmo's, or gaming in general. Maybe it is time for those of you that have lost your confidence in Blizzard to move on and try console gaming or read a book.( I think facebook is coming out with new games practically daily now). I know everyone has an opinion and thank goodness there are sites like Wowhead and all the gaming forums where they can be posted for all to see, but seriously people, lighten up on the negativity. Put yourself in their shoes and walk a mile, then come back to these forums and share what you have learned... hopefully you have learned something.Thank you, and goodnight.
People should stop being impatient these days...A game that is rushed too quickly can make it horrible.Whereas a game that is taking its time being developed is a good game, and will recieve massive popularity if it is successfull.