So we want Heroic Dungeons and they give use Heroic Scenarios.. maybe Blizz missed the point that we dont want Scenarios. Scenarios are a waste of time as they dont generate the resources (in the form of Valor or Loot) in the way that a Heroic Dungeon does. So basically you lose another million subscribers and your STILL telling us what we want and not giving us what we ask for..
Normally I sympathetically defend Blizzard to the point that I get called a fan boy a lot, but reading this I just have to say a couple of things:They went into MoP knowing it was going to climax with overthrowing Garrosh...and they realized around 5.2 that they didn't have a lead in concepted? Good lord, what was 5.3 going to be, then?Also, I love the idea that challenge modes are the most efficient way to collect VP. Sure, if you put together a group, go out to the dungeon, and actually complete it. But I can collect 80 VP for a dungeon and 50 VP for a scenario in that time, and then half that in the same time. We get it, Blizzard, you liked your challenge modes (and that's probably the REAL reason why there's no more five mans: tuning them for Challenge Mode would be a headache) but c'mon, stop trying to sell them as efficient VP generators.
We want Heroic Dungeons because:1. They should provide better gear later in the expansion2. You can queue for them in LFD3. You are playing your role (DPS, Tank, Healer)Heroic Scenarios have none of these.Cheers.
The problem I have with challenge modes is that as a resto druid I feel as if I'm useless. I've talked to other resto druids about this as well and they feel the same way so I know I'm not in the minority about this. And while scenarios are nice, once again hello resto druid. I guess technically I could go in with my 2nd spec but that defeats the purpose of playing a class and spec that I actually like.
i think a small portion of your concerns with professions might be alleviated with better profession rewards that you have to be of that profession to get, my best example for tailoring if tailors could make a bag lets say 4-6 slots larger then the biggest bag in the game but only tailors can use it and its for all items.a second idea i have is crafting items that require mats from another profession you make a "joint crafting" projects so lets say a engineer is making project X and needs mat A from a blacksmith the engineer starts crafting and the blacksmith clicks in too. with that you could either have they both get one of whats being made or only the engineer.
I want heroic challenge mode scenarios, to get enough VP to equip my characters in shiny raid stuff in 2 days, so i can show it to everyone in front of the Stormwind AH.I want a big truck mount too, and the possibility to add more boobs to my female alts.There's not enough bacon stuff to eat, come on, nothing is better than bacon, so give me all the bacon and eggs you have.
Not too sure where Blizz gets their data from but everytime I queue up for a scenario I usually either end up with folks who are either queuing just to see what a scenario is or is doing their best to hit the weekly valor cap...no one really seems to be doing them purely out of interest of the scenarios themselves. I can't really agree with the option of heroic scenarios either, it seems to kind of break their original plan for folks who hit 90 to have to progress through the other tiers and raids before they reach the final tier. The heroic scenarios are playing the same role as the catch-up heroics of previous expans, they're just under the ruse of a different name but they lack the depth of a dungeon due to the group makeup and the change of scenery new dungeons offer. I do hope this changes in the next expansion.As for cooler bosses, that's a very opinionated statement, I can rightly argue that Heroics have unique and cool boss fights as well. Commander Vo'jak and his Tower Defense style fight, and Wing Leader Ner'onok and flying to the other side to blow you off are fights I often look forward to name a couple.
Every time I queue for a scenario it feels like I'm grouped with two people who have never played WoW before. It's grueling. Terrible. Every now and then I suck it up when I don't have enough time for a dungeon, but then I invariably get the Brewmoon Festival. Then I drop group, log out, and presented WoW doesn't exist until the next day. I don't see that changing with a heroic option.
If they had better gear they would trivialize older LFRs and that is what they were trying to avoid. Especially since many people complained in cata and wrath about how the newer dungeons made older content useless.
Ryg just posted that the patch isn't the 14th, looks to be the 21st.
I love this game and I play well. I work and I practice and I learn all the classes, not just one. I and a great many of the best players in this game are solo players. I think you will find that the majority of your clientele would rather be solo players than deal with the nonsense you find in most pug groups and even guild groups. The solo scenarios on isle of thunder have been wonderful and thank you so much for them. I want the best gear too, but I want solo options to get there. Please give some of the best players of the game a little love. Thank you. Have a great day!
I don't understand why Blizzard doesn't just follow a consistent pattern.
of course in-game surveys would not be effective, but surveys overall would be. they should be emailed to players instead. problem is that the devs are just too set in their ways to change. the wow forums are probably worst place to garner information considering the vast majority of the playerbase probably doesn't even post there in the first place. and given how many subs left in the past 3 months alone, this method is shown to be even more ineffective.before creative assembly made empire: total war, they sent out a survey where you had a list of options and you could click which genre you would like. I remember taking that survey and I guess many people clicked on a Napoleonic period total war game. yes, not everyone will take the survey, but it is better than gauging opinion based on the even less people who post on wow forums, which tend to contain too many people who try to suck up to blizzard.as bashiok said they collect all the data on progression and so forth, but it still does not give any indication of what the playerbase wants. they think they know what we want but as current events show, they fall well short of that. no wonder it is said that wow is being managed by blizz's B team. the best devs must have gone to work on Titan.
I have to agree. I personally do not enjoy scenarios. at all. I'm just one person though. There's no way to really have your specific class shine, and I miss the group dynamic. Every time I do a scenario, it's people just trying to rush as fast as they can for vp cap. no one seems to enjoy it, and the challenge feels missing. At least in dungeons if your group was sub-par, there was an element of challenge in trying to over come that liability anyways. (that is when people didn't rage quit after one miss step) If their goal is really to force more people into LFR, then make more of an incentive to go into them. You can only loot once a week, and once your elder charms or runes are used up, then there's really no point in doing them. Also, anyone else incredibly BORED with the current dungeons? doing the same 4 over and over again before 90 completely drives me insane! And it doesn't get much better after 90. I can't speak for everyone, but I do feel Blizz is failing the community by not introducing more dungeons. Period. I'll give heroic scenarios a shot, but given my hatred of normal scenarios, I don't have high hopes. But I'm sure their statistics will tell them people love heroic scenarios, when really it's just more people trying to vp cap. Of course everything I've said will most likely be picked apart, lol, that's the way of forums, but I just wanted to express my two cents. Enjoy playing everyone! :)
I don't understand either it seems to me that the makers don't play the game or at least not on servers that don't have a ton of people on them this game is dying and to be honest it should at this point it seems there is only one force driving Blizz and that is stock price. I see things keeping on the same path as a waste of my time and money to be honest to the makers I will give examples I am sure you already know and care little about .1.Last night I walked into the AH and there was no-one there but the npcs and 6 people in SW this is on Trollbane a server you call Med full .2.I never get to kill a world boss because there are not enough people on my server to kill him more then say once a week and most of the time I am not on at that time .3.I have logged on 4 times in the last week to queue times said time in queue no time to group I waited once over a hour and when it did put me in I had to start at then END of the raid. Who wants to re-queue after that well I did the next day and it took way over a hour and to sit in front of a screen for that long not even able to go to the restroom for to long is a JOB not a game .4.I get into a raid and guess what someone paid a tank of a healer to queue and as soon as they are in they drop and then I have to wait no kidding 45 mins for a new tank this is nutz because if I leave I have to take the deserter tag and wait 30min to start waiting a hour to get a raid that might not work out .5.I must lfr otherwise no gear= no progression in game you made it about the lfr so there really is no other way to get rep.6.Everything else is empty busy work even if I ran around the whole game and killed all the rares you have I cant get epic gear so they really server no real purpose do they they are just there to keep me busy so lack of story or reason to want to waste my time killing a rare that doesn't help me progress.7. I will not pay you for failure you made it so my server is empty and now I either have to live with it or leave......
I have done 5.3 on ptr and I can say that it wont keep you occupied for more than a week, unless you are that stage in the legendary quest already. unlikely though, given most people still haven't done the forge quest yet, let alone the second grind quest.