PvP started to circle the drain with the release of Wrath. Before that it was a much less segregated community. The guys who did arena as well would have gladiator gear as makes sense, the rest of us would be in the best we could get from PvE. Basically it translated to the ideal of PvP better than anything since. There was less multiple set crap, less stupid nonstats. Yes you ran into problems but at least there was a variety. The odd person would have insane burst or lots of health but it'd be at equivalent cost elsewhere.I used to do it as an early BT geared warrior. For flag running it was the business<3 (nerfing that is just another nail in the coffin) but there was none of that roll with flag monk nonsense back then (no chance they'll remove that any day soon..), I was the equivalent of a turtle really. It was so nice to be able to just jump in like that. Melee guys would have trouble with me if they lacked hit etc. but the ranged dudes would wear me down fast enough. I did like no damage though so it balanced out fine. There was certainly more variety in what you'd come up against back then. Back then Tiers, both PvE and PvP meant something too. Quit the game now, don't regret it with the way they're going. They seem to have gone from "everything is available to everyone if they want it and work for it" to "everything is available to everyone in that we'll just pretty much hand it to you". Nothing to work for any more and nothing to take pride in. I see how they got here, think it was all good intentions but they really need to step back and open their eyes.