Brb, soloing Assault on Zan'vess.
So much Blizzard, make the game as min-max-focused as possible and then wonder that fast gearing is all that players care about. It is a design fault on their side, but not design of LFR, but design of whole gear system.
the third last post by Draztal (second last if do not include LFR rewards) is missing its quote. might you please add it so that we can see what the person Draztal was discussing with said?
LFR is one of the best things that happened to Wow, dunno why some ppl complain, if you dont like LFR then dont do it!
Blizzard needs to fix there lfr loot system. I ran it the other day and I got a 476 neck when I already had a 489 neck equipped. Also they need to put in an option to roll on off spec gear
No one really likes to make this point but i think the root fact is that the INDIVIDUALS, dont really want to be runing LFR but due to the way most raiding guilds work, they have to if they want to get to do the normal raids. There are in essence only 2 states of being for people who want to raid. Your either already a part of a stable raiding group, or your looking to create/join a group. For the first set there are 2 general camps, the first is the camp is the "hardcore" group, pushing for every advantage and it is expected/required for everyone in the group to seek out every possible bit of power. These people are the most "forced" into LFR, but on the other hand as was mentioned thats because of the play style they have chosen so they probably dont really mind that much, as being "hardcore" is how they like to play and by its nature requires more time spent. The second camp is the Raid groups who have been raiding a long time with the same group of people and are less concerned with how fast they get it done and care more about the fun of getting it done. This is the group least likely to feel "forced" to run LFR as it generally focuses more on the experience and unless their just getting completely walled by a boss probably only the people who want to for their personal progression are likely to run LFR.Then we have the second set, which also has 2 general camps, either your trying to form a new group, or your looking to join a group that has some newly opened slots. This is where the trouble starts, because if your a new group, you likely lack the experience and co-ordination required to achieve the fights with minimal gear levels like the long term groups would, and so you are likely to feel "forced" into into doing LFR to make headway against these bosses in order to compensate somewhat for your lack of experience. This group doesnt complain as much about being "forced" because they recognize that its due to their inexperience, however they do run the risk of having a bunch of peoples "introduction" to raiding be having to run the lfr in order to do the normal content, which creates the expectation that thats how its supposed to work, and also may lead to them feeling a little burned out. The second camp is the people looking to be a slot filler, or a "pug". And for them their "forced" to run LFR for simple mathematical reasons, if your trying to get into the group and competing against someone else for the slot, the one who has the better gear is likely to get "first draft", so you feel like you have to keep up with LFR all the time in order to maximize your chances of getting into an actual raid. So in the end 3 out of 4 groups basically end up "forced" to run LFR. However you may be saying none of these explains why people are hating on it so much if these are the reasons their having to go in there. And i think that is the real crux of the matter, the stress that people are getting from LFR is actually simply because people arent fitting into these categories and are feeling strain from it. Their either in a "hardcore" group but not really wanting to be hardcore, or not as hardcore as is expected at least. Or somone who wanted to join a raid group but didnt realize that there would be extra work involved like running LFR or grinding dailies or whatever. In essence the real point of stress isnt due to how lfr works, but due to the way end game content is setup and people not easily fitting into the "paths" to it.
I love scenarios because I can solo them. I hate scenarios because most of the time it feels like I AM soloing them.I honestly think the LFR debaters are trolling. Some of them spent longer posting on that thread then an actual LFR takes. Even a full PUG is down under an hour now.
Lfr is best
People are already crying that bosses are too hard. Sadly, the players themselves are bad.
The more u talk, the less u make sense
LFR is great! I get to enjoy taking down some of the bigger bad guys without having to listen to some clown tell me that I have to play a specific class/spec because they want a certain composition for the raid. For the heroes trying to show they're the Baddest MFer in the Valley, quit whining and just think of LFR as homework. Use it as a stepping stool and improve your game, or ignore it and spend that extra time slamming your head into the wall of failure.
Reading this makes me feel very very sorry for Blizzard employees who have to deal with this spoiled rotten attitude of players. The player chooses to renew his or her subscription, the player chooses his or her play style, the player is not coerced or forced into anything. I think most WoW players should take the advice of the pandaren "Slow down, life is to be savored.". ;) These people couldnt stomach Vanilla wow when you got something you damn well earned it and it took a while. Not cry about it on the forums and cheer at nerfs.
I don't get to raid a whole lot because of my work schedule and LFR is very appreciated. Casuals like us finally get a bone and then all the hardcores complain that they have to run it. I also think it adds to the diversity of things to do in order to get some valor. That's what I like. In early Cata we had to grind heroics to get valor and that was it. Now we can do heroics, scenarios, dailys, and LFR. I like how we get variety now. We used to be "forced" to just do dungeons over and over now we get some nice variety and people still complain. Like the saying goes you can't please everybody.