WTF wrong with you blizzard ? just remove it... it become useless and useless...
I like vengeance, don't know why people cry about it. o.O
Apodictic, because it's a bad system for tanks outside of high vengeance.once upon a time we did 50% damage of a dps with no dependance on a raid boss hitting us and being full raid buffed. we could actually productively kill mobs while questing etc.now, we do about 10% of the damage of a dps, and even less dps than a HEALER while questing. sure we can pull a dozen mobs at once sometimes to do a little more damage via aoe, but that's not every situation is ideal. it just sucks that our damage is only any good in groups. vengeance is a crutch to a probelm not a fix.
@ mysticalos: Maybe try using your other spec? Somehow I'm having trouble believing that tanks without vengeance do 10% of the damage of DPS, unless there's a huge gear discrepancy.
i love it as a 458 geared prot warrior i pull routinely 40-50k on single target fights lol yay prot warriors haha
Thank you Blizzard for finally changing the ink traders <3 been hoarding Ink of Dreams on my scribe waiting for them to change it.
Ink traders weren't actually fixed (yet): explanation by Netheara.