Still keeping an eye out for Invincible, though the Onyxian drake is cool. The pet selection so far has been rather weak, as many Argent Tourney pets can be bought BOE from the opposite faction for only ~2k. I was hoping for some really cool things like promo/Blizzcon/CE pets. Stuff the Alar mount won't go for too much either past the first couple months, especially since you can solo it on multiple toons with account wide mounts.If the BMAH goes live with no Invincible, my plan is to 5 man Heroic LK every week with some friends using an extended 11/12 normal lockout. (you can do this every week if it was all normals)
Do you think it's a possibility that they'll put Archaeology mounts up for sale as well?Probably not; since they are far easier to get then a dungeon/raid drop.
Yay! More endless farming for stuff a player may only use once or twice.If these items are sold on the BMAH - will they become BoP? Or will the illegal gold farmers outbid everyone then turn around and sell those overbid items back on regular AH for twice as much?Me thinks BMAH is the lazy player's answer to getting stuff they don't want to actually farm months & years for.(I myself & others have farmed certain mounts & whatever for months to years - don't think I'm going to spend 10K+ gold to get something I can actually work hard for. I'd rather keep my gold in my pocket)
What even is the point in trying to legitematly getting that rare stuff when you can buy it?It kinda feels like they are spitting on all those hours of farming ,and on those who got stuff the honest way in general.Also,decreasing the value of all of that stuff since it can be bought. At random times and at quite a cost,but still.Wasn't really digging MoP thus far,even less so now.
blizzard really wants to destory wow...
If these items are sold on the BMAH - will they become BoP? Or will the illegal gold farmers outbid everyone then turn around and sell those overbid items back on regular AH for twice as much?(I myself & others have farmed certain mounts & whatever for months to years - don't think I'm going to spend 10K+ gold to get something I can actually work hard for. I'd rather keep my gold in my pocket)The items from the BMAH become BoP. And how can "illegal gold farmers" outbid everyone and sell the item for twice as much when everyone else can just bid more on the BMAH?While you and your friends have farmed these mounts for years for like a few hours per week, others have farmed the AH for hours a day and sit on millions of gold. The BMAH exists exactly for these people who don't mind spending 1mio for some rare mount. Everyone will see this when the first really cool mounts show up, like Invincible, Mimirons Head, etc.
There seems to be a misconception that the BMAH is a vendor - it is not. There is a chance for any given NPC to put up an item. If they put up an item the chance that its the one you want is LOW. Then you have to see it, bid on it and continually have the highest bid.Yes you can do a fake buy-out by bidding the maximum amount if you have enough gold, but last I saw it reported, the max bid was 999,999g (1 million - 1 gold), so you can shut out the competition if you have the gold - but you have a very limited amount of times you can do that, and the "competition" can just wait for the next one.Now granted, if you are a special snowflake AND have a lot of gold, you can effectively prevent anyone else from gaining your snowflakiness - at least while your gold lasts, and thats also mission accomplished for blizzard in draining out the gold, while not making any significant impact on the population of a certain item (disregard heroic raid gear here, thats another kettle of fish entirely), and eventually the items will become available to the ones with the gold to do a regular bidding war.
I really dont understand why so many people are upset about the BMAH, especially the Equipment-Part.People talk about this like it would be possible to buypass the process of gear-gathering through raids entirely, and just buy everything you need/want in a snap. That's simply not the case. First of all, you have ZERO control which items will come up, when they will come or IF they will be there at all.Second...even if you are in a professional top notch guild, with millions of guildbank-gold behind you, you will have to compete against similar wealthy opponents, since you cant buy-out stuff and the BMAH is most likely realmpool-wide.So yes, you can buy hc gear, but it is a risky, cumbersome, unreliable process, much slower than simply raiding heroic mode. So on the grand scale of things, the advantage a single raidgrp has over all others, is virtually non-existent.
I definitely have worries concerning the effect a Black Market will have on the economy. I can see gold farmers having a field day, that's for sure. Maybe if they introduced a separate currency.This could be a good way to lessen the stagnation some players experience when gearing, though. Although at that point in the game, said players are usually poor enough as is. We'll just have to see where Blizzard goes with this.
noooooooooo dont put arcanite ripper back on i feel special having 1 love the reactions i get when i bust out the guitar riff lol
This will be intresting :-)
Are the only recipe's on the BMAH to be skill lvl 600? Would love to see old Raid recipe's like the Hard Khorium Band from Sunwell on there.
Boo no Invincible's Reins. I would have thought it would be in the list given that Reins of the Blazing Drake and Smoldering Egg of Millagazor were.No Experiment 12-B either :(
Man, only 2 mounts I was hoping to be there aren't :( Invincible's ReinsMimiron's Head
I really hope everything listed is BoP or BoA, which should be since at least mounts and blue vanity stuff are.Man, there's gonna be some serious AH camping going on ... Imagine there's this rare thing you always wanted, it's 2:30 am, you have to wake up at 6, time remaining : short ... arg!edit : wonder if it will be available via the remote AH thinggie.
I really hope everything listed is BoP or BoA, which should be since at least mounts and blue vanity stuff are.Man, there's gonna be some serious AH camping going on ... Imagine there's this rare thing you always wanted, it's 2:30 am, you have to wake up at 6, time remaining : short ... arg!edit : wonder if it will be available via the remote AH thinggie.All pets and mounts(except for the inclusions) are going to be account wide in MoP; so all characters will get it. And more then likely anything purchased off the BMAH, even those that would normally be BoE, are probably gonna get soulbound, to keep people from trying to use it as a massive money make.And probably not, since the BMAH is not connected to the primary city ones.
I will be honest and say it....this is the first thing I have seen that has actually "tempted" me to want to buy gold. Before, I always saw things that were very expensive as "wants", but not "really, really, wants". I never cared if I couldn't snatch up that BiS dagger 2 months before it became obsolete. And I always had enough of a stash of gold to keep me comfortable. Now, the BMAH is putting some of the most tempting, "gotta have it NOW!" items up for sale. I could care less for the gear...I am talking about the Ashes....the Tier 3, and things like the Ripper.....things that if you don't have them, you could spend months or years farming for a drop, or just have no other option to obtain them. And we know they are gonna be outrageous in cost. So high, that my measly 200k across all toons doesn't stand a chance.
This feels like a stupid, obvious question, but I'm guessing you can only access the Black Market AH from Pandaria? Not Dalaran or the like?
I will be honest and say it....this is the first thing I have seen that has actually "tempted" me to want to buy gold. Your tempting fate with that idea, better you just farm lots of gold now in preperation for your BMAH wants.
This feels like a stupid, obvious question, but I'm guessing you can only access the Black Market AH from Pandaria? Not Dalaran or the like?Yes; the BMAH is in a 'hidden' location in Pandaria itself; so if you want to see what's on it, you'll have to get off your butt and go exploring.