If you don't believe so then may I suggest that you take a business class.Ad hominem. If I recall correctly from my business classes, the only people that stand to gain for this are the board of directors and other shareholders. I don't know why so many people are so quick to justify contributing to the relief fund for millionaires and billionaires. I can only assume it is part of the system of indoctrination in the United States.I bet if you were to run a business you would want as much money as you could get without harming your business. And after working 2 years in management at a restaurant, I can say that more than just those on top are benefiting from it. Those at certain management positions, just as head of research or head of development etc., also gain some benefits. If they can make the company more money they get some sort of bonus, maybe extra vacation time or a company car or something else. There are also some incentives that come along that can help promote work.And I'm not here to justify giving those that have money more money. I'm here to justify the reasoning for why people were to get laid off. A business is a business, in this instance they hired more people than they needed. But what about later down the road when they will need more employees? At that point in time they will hire more people, but until they need them there is no reason at all to keep them.
Sadly this is probably just an appeasement action to the stock holders. All too often companies will respond to the appearance of a problem when no action was required. A very public loss in sub's and the company responds with a cost cutting plan to show the stock holders that they are financially responsible. If it was just a matter of excess manpower, it would have been more reasonable to do some re-organization to maximize people’s productivity.As for the morality of it, I’m disappointed, but I will still subscribe.
And after working 2 years in management at a restaurant, I can say that more than just those on top are benefiting from it. Those at certain management positions, just as head of research or head of development etc., also gain some benefits. If they can make the company more money they get some sort of bonus, maybe extra vacation time or a company car or something else. There are also some incentives that come along that can help promote work.So, did you get any bonus for firing people? The practice of promoting loyalty to ward off dissension is common. In restaurants it is legal for the commis waiters and bar staff to be paid out of the tips of the waiters. When waiters suggest unionisation, its not only the managers that are opposed to it, it is also the bar staff and commis waiters, since they're accustomed to the idea that they'll stand to lose and that they stand to gain proportionately to the company. In reality though, purchasing power for essentially everyone has remained the same for the past four decades. Gamer, have you ever been laid off?Nope.
Very sorry to all who were laid off :( I'm even more sorry for the @#$%^&*s running numbers in your face and making matters worse.....even tho you probably got AWESOME severance packages and Resumes. Because I know if I got your Resume in my in box insta hire lol!
Gamer, have you ever been laid off?Nope.Then let me tell you, you can be laid off without it affecting the higher ups: I've lost jobs at call centers due to cost(cheaper to do it over seas) and due to volume(not enough calls coming in to justify paying a full work force); it's never cut and dried about why the lay off happens.
This is all your fault. Why did you have to go try star wars? :(
I have a feeling this might be because of Cataclysm. My heart goes out to the Ex-Blizzard employees.
And after working 2 years in management at a restaurant, I can say that more than just those on top are benefiting from it. Those at certain management positions, just as head of research or head of development etc., also gain some benefits. If they can make the company more money they get some sort of bonus, maybe extra vacation time or a company car or something else. There are also some incentives that come along that can help promote work.So, did you get any bonus for firing people?.At where I worked we couldn't get enough people to work and we rarely fired people. But when we did fire them we had reasons. And Blizz had reasons to fire those people, and that was because they didn't need them anymore.That is like you still paying for something but not using, why not just get rid of it and cut your loses?
Blizz had reasons to fire those people, and that was because they didn't need them anymore.One doesn't suddenly discover that 600 employees are superfluous. One makes a calculated decision that firing 600 people will increase one's own capital.
Blizz had reasons to fire those people, and that was because they didn't need them anymore.One doesn't suddenly discover that 600 employees are superfluous. One makes a calculated decision that firing 600 people will increase one's own capital.Or....they are superfluous for the current economy and what's actually going on in ActivisionBlizzard.
Blizz had reasons to fire those people, and that was because they didn't need them anymore.One doesn't suddenly discover that 600 employees are superfluous. One makes a calculated decision that firing 600 people will increase one's own capital.They fired them because they didn't need their services any more. If they were needed they wouldn't have been fired. End of discussion.And on that note I won't bother with this 'debate' as you won't acknowledge that.
I'm of a mind to agree with Adams and Nathanyal here, in all honesty.
People posting they hope people got fired, naming names, or otherwise making light of this will be temporarily suspended if they continue to after this warning.It is never cool to joke about layoffs, especially in this economy, and I sincerely hope that you realize the gravity of your words. It's incredibly disappointing to me that anyone thought this would be acceptable to do to a person, let alone on Wowhead, where we have always had a nice community.People will always hide behind the anonimity of the internet to shout cursing words without ever fearing of punishment. It is unavoidable.
I'm of a mind to agree with Adams and Nathanyal here, in all honesty.This.I'm sorry for the people who lost their jobs.Hopefully they can get new (better) jobs quickly.
I lost my job last year and it took me 9 months to get another one. I wish all those affected the best of luck and I hope you bounce faster than I did. I love Wow and Diablo and have been playing Activision titles since the eighties on my Atari. This action was no doubt a tough decision for those who made it and Im sure a massive company must change to adapt and survive. Keep your chins up guys... this is merely a setback and things will get better.
Blizz had reasons to fire those people, and that was because they didn't need them anymore.One doesn't suddenly discover that 600 employees are superfluous. One makes a calculated decision that firing 600 people will increase one's own capital.If the company did review on their business then yes they could just discover that they had 600 more employees than needed . Also it is the DUTY of any board of directors of any company to maximise profits for all their shareholders ( and remember there are a lot of " mum and dad " investors who have shares as well as the rich ) . If they dont do this they are not meeting their legal obligations . It is just very sad that sometimes people loose their jobs as a consequence , but thats business , I dont have to like it but i do understand ( been made redundant twice myself )
Very funny how seemingly "experienced" people brag about right and wrong on some forum. Good that you discuss you hatred or passion for Blizzard and find dozens of reasons to prove it. It's just unlikely that anyone will give a crap. I do not object discussion, but pointless argue, based on the silliest cliche of "haters gonna hate" does not make you look right.Of course everyone is sorry for people being removed. And a lot of words can be said to martyrize them. But still, even though I am nowhere as close to the knowledge of the subject as the above writing people, I saw a good "severance package and other benefits" line. So maybe there is a difference between being "fired" and "laid off"? It was already suggested that having Blizzard tick in your portfolio makes you not the last on the list of employment possibilities.Blaming Blizzard for Cataclysm, expressing personal dislike of content and using it as reason of Blizzard's fall of profits is equal to saying "You suck" in the mirror. Makes you proud and shamed at the same time. Blizzard clearly said their production will not decrease. Blizzard opened new positions. Blizzard still has high profits. Does any anonymous opinion make difference?
Gamer, have you ever been laid off?Fixed that for you.But in seriousness, do we really think that there was corporate greed involved in this decision? Without knowing the specifics, Actiblizzion seems like it must have been a monstrosity to create. Once the dust is settled, you're going to have to look at it with a fresh pair of eyes and ask which of those hastily-created roles are truly needed going forward, right?It would be great if companies that can afford it could keep everyone on board out of a sense of company loyalty, regardless of whether they are completely necessary. But when that happens surely it just takes one internal audit to demonstrate that decisions are being made that just aren't in the best interests of the company.
There are obviously some of you that haven't taken courses in Economics. I'll try to explain this in simple, non-technical terms, not to insult everyone's intelligence but to make sure that what I say is very clear. I'm sure most people here have heard of a bell curve, where it starts out at 0, gradually increases on the x and y axis, reaches a "peak" point (called the vertex), then gradually decreases on both the x and y axis back down to 0. Production typically follows this model, with the x axis being the number of employees and the y axis representing productivity. In a single "factory", production isn't as efficient as it could be when there are less or more employees at work than at the "ideal" peak point. What causes a decrease in production with more workers can depend on several factors such as: Resource limitations (the "factory" isn't large enough, there isn't enough equipment, etc), Management limitations (the employee force is beginning to become too large for the management even if more managers were to be hired), and Morale (typically, people don't like having to sit in cramped spaces filled with hundreds and hundreds of other germ-spreading people :) ). All of those factors lead to a decrease in production in some shape or form, which explains the decrease in production during an increase of workers. It happens every so often that a company has to re-evaluate its resources and reallocate them, or in this scenario, cut employees out in order to maintain equilibrium.Yes, I'm sure some of the people laid off were amazing workers, and I'm sure some of them were new hires/bad eggs, but sacrifices have to be made to stay afloat; that is how life AND business works. And yes, actually, part of it IS corporate greed at the same time, too, because the reason why they cut those people WAS because of the potential loss of efficiency, which is a decrease in their profits. But again, welcome to life. If you hired contractors to help you remodel your home, and you were paying them $10/hr, but (for example), you over-hired help and you have 3 of the 10 guys you hired just sitting around not doing much, you'd fire them. You wouldn't sit around saying, "Oh I feel sorry for them and I don't want to make them lose their jobs and earnings, so I'm just going to pay them to sit around and do nothing." You'd get rid of them. That's what Blizzard is, in effect, doing right now.Yes, it sucks. Yes, I feel absolutely terrible for those people, especially considering I recently lost my job as well, but that is how the real world and business works. No use crying over it, making a scene, and in general making a fool of yourself. Make lemonade out of those lemons and move on; you can't spend your whole life saying woe is me or woe is them and calling every little bad thing that happens an outrage and throw a conniption fit. I wish all of you that lost your job the very best of luck, and I know you all can find new employment! Keep your chin up, your confidence up, and you'll do just fine!
just because I can afford it and will support as much as I can. When one cancels one's subscription now, there is a little box where one can specify the reason one is quitting. I'm not sure if the department where these responses are analysed will remain, but it sends a much bigger message if one writes that one is unwilling to fund corporate greed, which this is a symptom of. It certainly isn't a symptom of a lack of funds. I read that Blizzard made over one million dollars from the Heart of the Aspects mount alone.uhh ok just to start its a business that has pleased 90% of its players for last 18 years, 2nd who are you to really have this kind of view when the governments of the world do far worse. Now yes they made a very substantial profit this quarter which if you think about it those profits in sum way also have to make up for previous quarters where they did not make there quota. i am a die hard blizzard fan they were the 1st and only pc gaming publisher i have played half my life and continue to play. ok so they have made cut backs within the company who is to say these cut backs are permanent and those jobs will stay empty. Blizzard is doing exactly what a business or any functioning profit organization should do which is too look at all those within and actually make the tough decision of reorganizing which in most cases means letting people go and really how can say such things when you have NO clue what parts of the company were down sized or who was let go and no offense to those that were let go either. i just think you are the main person saying such negative things yes they let sum people go its not like they fired 80% of the company straight out with no benefits or anything maybe you should instead of taking bits and pieces out of what was said and look at the entire message.. thats my 2 cents