Interesting. Does that mean they'll let normal heroics or even standard 5 mans award valor points?
Ragefire chasm will now award 75 Valor points. per boss. And 2 per trash mob.
yay! i may actually start to pvp again :D
~omg welfare pvp epics blizzurd is gon ruin pvp!~ I actually like this Conquest change, tbh. I'm sure there will be mass QQ over it tho.
i think this is going to be a good idea, it will alow people who dont do RBG to get some conquest points, so that they arnt stuck un honor gear
I approve of the pvp changes. I don't really enjoy arena; and our guild pvp leader hasn't been on for a while to organize an RBG, will be nice to keep up with gear.My theory is it'll make BGs more interesting, with the non rated players stacking up some gear too.*second edit* It'll also mean that you can cap conquest with arenas again
I agree with what was actually said. Some people want to do arena, rbgs and some just love good old fashioned bgs. Different strokes for different folks. Works for me.
the only people who will cry about this are the people who fall into the "serious, but not very good PVPer" category. I.E. people who exclusively PVP but never get above a ~2k arena ranking. Above 2k everyone assumes that everyone else is totally geared anyway so it won't make a difference if a few more casuals get easier access to gear, they still arent going to beat the hardcore PVP'ers because they dont have the skill and havent put in the practice time.this is a good thing because it basically stops mediocre PVP'ers using a large gear advantage to boost their epeen in random non-rated BG's.
Good for us who don't make it into RBG and do little/not arena.OffT: Is it just me or is people more nice around here? So many bad comments on everything on the official forums, seems to me its better people here.
Seems like a good idea to me. I never got the people who say that PvP is all about skill and then start crying that a fresh max level character can get the same gear as them. Its not like you will be able to buy the highest level of gear anyway that takes rating which takes RBG or arena.
I like that change.
In patch 4.3 we’re changing the daily battleground (BG) to reward 100 conquest for a win (up from 25). In addition, every non-rated BG that you win will also give you 50 conquest. There is no limit to how many BGs you can run this way, up to the normal conquest cap.Our intent is to start acting even more on our Mists of Pandaria philosophies of encouraging players to approach the content they want to, how they want to, and be able to work toward meaningful player progression. Arenas and rated battlegrounds will still earn Conquest faster, but with this change you can now work your way up by running normal BGs, if you so choose.I actually came into this thread about to criticize, but reason caught up.Consider:Running a dungeon (random Heroic/Zandalari/CoT in 4.3) awards Valor points, which are the "high tier" points up to 7 times, right up to the cap.Doing a Battleground awards 25 Conquests once per day up to 7 times a week, which is 175 Conquest points, which is a fraction of the Conquest cap (RBG or Arena or a combination of the two).With this change, it just equalizes the playing field for how players can gear up on the PvP and PvE front, allowing players to cap Conquest/Valor by doing low tier activities, albeit at a slower rate (as is fair).Also consider:Raiding, Arenas, and RBGs are the "high tier" activities. They therefore award points, often faster than you can earn them through low-tier activities.This will, more or less, remain true.Edit: TL;DR: This is an equalizing change.
The conquest point idea is the WORST PvP related idea Blizzard has had in the last 7 years...just saying
The conquest point idea is the WORST PvP related idea Blizzard has had in the last 7 years...just sayingAny particular reason for that?
The conquest point idea is the WORST PvP related idea Blizzard has had in the last 7 years...just sayingAny particular reason for that?I'd like to know the reasoning behind that as well.Edit: And looking at it, you get 700 from the weekly daily, then need another 19 winning BG's to cap yourself by this process....cool.
Personally, as someone who has limited time these days, I'm finding this to be an excellent idea. When I do get online to PvP, if I can't find a RGB going, then I'm stuck scrambling for points. This eliminates that and gives me seven days to cap out going through random battlegrounds instead of banging my head off the keyboard to find a group that will either be half-way decent or complete fail in order to get my Conquest.
I like this change. I do arenas and some rbgs but I love to do just reg bgs too!
+1 for the idea of actually having to progress through content to get better gear.+1 for the idea of allowing a way for regular non hardcore players to keep up with everyone else.I think these changes will be a very good for the community.
you get 700 from the weekly dailyTo clarify: It's more like 700 assuming you do one BG a day and win...each day.
you get 700 from the weekly dailyTo clarify: It's more like 700 assuming you do one BG a day and win...each day......Right; I think most people could have figured that out Interest.....