Noooo. I like camping graveyards.Don't we all.(WTB fix to Alterac Valley gy camping)
Usually people who are questing do not get to capital cities until levels 7 to 10...so banning all level 1-5 characters from trade seems all right.
I agree and disagree with the comments made here. I do agree that spamming and botting are interlinked and frequently done by the same individuals/groups.Having said that I think Blizzard can do more.Ending spam is not Blizzards responsibility. Because they cant end it. To me this is lame and backwards. It's letting the perfect be the enemy of the good. The question is not can Blizzard be perfect but are they doing enough.Blizzard isn't NCSoft. NCSoft did what they had to do precisely because they don't have the years of experience combating bots that Blizzard does. Your average boxer can't "float like a butterfly, sting like a bee" but it worked wonders for Muhammad Ali. Comparing NCSoft to Blizzard is an ignorant comparison, to be frank. Personally, I agree with the level ten requirement. It won't stop spam but it will raise the cost to spammers. Time is money, friend. Even the Chinese understand this. And anything that increase spammer cost of doing business is good in my book...even if it doesn't solve the entire problem.
Yay Soulstone brez! People are really starting to throw the word "Homogenization" around quite liberally lately... and tbh i've already been using SS during fights (Heroics obv, not raids) where you wouldn't expect anyone to die so SS wasn't used beforehand, but something goes wrong (lag, melee standing in front w/out capped expertise, etc..) and the tank suddenly bites it... hello last-minute SS for the healer!
Limiting trade chat will fail for the same reason that CAPTCHAs are doomed to fail - the payoff is high enough that the work will be farmed out.Are they aware that there are "CAPTCHA farmers"?Let's say you operate a botnet and want to spam numerous forums. Every signup, possible even every post, requires a CAPTCHA.The CAPTCHAs themselves are generated when an honest user goes to post a comment or create an account. Since real humans can't fill out a webform and solve a CAPTCHA instantaneously there is a time period that the CAPTCHA is valid for. Within that time period your botnet can save the CAPTCHA image and submit it to a farming system where humans review, solve and are paid (very, very little) per CAPTCHA.It's simply a matter of economics. If it's worth circumventing then it will be circumvented.If it's necessary to raise your spamming toon to lvl 6 before you can spam then that will simply be reflected in the cost of gold. That, or there will be dedicated farmers for raising a single-toon account to level 6.This won't do a thing to stop commercial spam.It may, however, actually reduce trade troll spam since players won't be able to just roll a new troll every day.
Liking the combat rez.
TL;DR: putting a level cap on being able to use public channels will only force goldspammers to flood starting areas with bots, making legitimate players who are trying to play the game normally endure a botting nightmare. The solution to spammers must take into account all players who are in different phases of this game -- people at the very start of their WoW experience included.Thank you, Contay, for that elaborate post. I've always disliked the use of addons that block lvl 1 characters or people who plead for a ban of those in chat channels, because I honestly can't see the point in hampering players in an attempt to ward off bots that will simply find another way in, but never have been able to explain it as validly and with as solid an example as you have just done.
BLIZZARD - PLEASE GIVE US SOMETHING TO DO WITH OUR DAMM JUSTICE POINTSWowhead isn't Blizzard.I have used them to fully gear up both spec and off spec on my main. 4000 just sit there in my bank. Few incentives to do content with my slightly behind guildees excpet those 70 VP and my interest in a month of grinding for 1 2100 VP piece is pretty limited (I do have a life)You can buy trade goods with JP. Go to the vendor, examine the goods for sale. Buy something you need or your guild needs or just something that sells well on the AH. Buy it for JP.(And don't come back and say "What? Those prices are too high". No they aren't, if you are JP capped more JP are useless to you, all these prices are effectively "free")Solution - give us a way to exchange for Honor.That doesn't solve anything, you will end up Honor capped.
TL;DR: putting a level cap on being able to use public channels will only force goldspammers to flood starting areas with bots, making legitimate players who are trying to play the game normally endure a botting nightmare. The solution to spammers must take into account all players who are in different phases of this game -- people at the very start of their WoW experience included.Thank you, Contay, for that elaborate post. I've always disliked the use of addons that block lvl 1 characters or people who plead for a ban of those in chat channels, because I honestly can't see the point in hampering players in an attempt to ward off bots that will simply find another way in, but never have been able to explain it as validly and with as solid an example as you have just done.Having you done Bg's lately the bots are already there. And are horrible. Que for 2 EoTS this Morning on my Rogue lost both times as only about 6 people were doing things the others were camp bots. And ether Shifted if there a Driud or just jumped. (Thinking this would stop them for being tagged afk)I see the gag being around 10+ for trade talking. That way they can add the screen spam Trade Chat Unlocked. 10+ sounds like the ideal number as you can start bg's at that level so toons data should start getting stored around that level.Also it would make it a little easier to track the gold sellers/spammers. All the ones that I have seen here lately have been 6-8 random letters for there name. I also like want they did with the goblin area to wear you can't excape until your around level 12 or so. That could be another thing they could do. (But might be hard to add without a major patch)
The first and third blue paragraphs in the Warlock Soulstone section are the same.Kind regards,