I am confused about the disc priest change... are we not supposed to use bubble?
well after the terrible changes made to my ret pally , and my hunter after the launch of cata... well i shelved them. so i rolled a dwarf shammy healer, now not being a healer before i didn't know the difference between one change and the next just learning the class. now that i've made 80 on my shammy , his healing has been up and down more times than a ****** at a truck stop. some times its good , some times its bad. most pve content has been within my abilitys to heal with only needing the odd mana potion to keep up with the healing. now that i'm working on icc content with my shammy , good lord you aren't kidding i am working my ass off to heal. i can keep the tank alive yes , but i'm losing other players especially the squishy ones. my mana pool is o.k. , available chain mail healer gear is hard to find if it exists for an 80. could use an improvement there. when the earlier poster mentioned we are glowing non stop from heal casts he's not kidding , god forbid i get hit with anything or i get a stutter cast and people get red fast. i would really like to heal while moving ,really really ! some times you can't stand still that long , haste stacked you name it i have tried it. why can i move and heal at 85 but not at 80 i don't know . how about some tougher healer gear blizz so i don't get 1 or 2 hit to death in an instance. as for pvp/bg's i'm a dead duck in healer spec , dps spec ain't much better . you want a healer for a bg/pvp bug some one else.. i'm not coming ! stop messing with peoples specs blizz , it doesn't pay to have a good toon anymore .. blizz just bites it's head off. frustration for myself has reached a point where i have let my sub lapse. i may come back , i may not .depends how rift turns out. if you ever get your %^&* together blizz gimme a call , in the mean time i'm dumpin your product off my hard drive to make room for ... well anything else. i want to know what my toons are gonna do from week to week and not have to guess. in the mean time . i'll be looking else where for my gaming fun , and saving money in the process ! cata is broken , fix it if you can. and for god's sake quit selling beta's as a finshed product . lol barad is just that , a sad sad joke.
Wow. That's a massive jump for Shaman healing.
IMO it is not that the healing itself is the problem, but rather how most classes retained their quick-cast lower heal spells and shamans lost theirs. Sure we're not supposed to be spamming heals now in catac, but the fact that we have a slow-ass smaller heal (okay, faster when paired with riptide) made the numbers go down. I mean, Healing Wave and Greater Healing Wave functions the same as Lesser Healing and Healing wave back then. Blizz just changed the modifier and made the cast time go up.Yes healing surge is a faster heal, but it's not mana efficient and I treat it more as a wtf-clothie-hp-went-down heal rather than an actual part of the rotation.Anyways, let's just see how the buff helps.
Now PW:S is 25% base mana. At 85lvl priest have ~21k base mana. So it was around 5k to cast PW:S.With 33% increase it will be ~6.5k to cast PW:S.At 85 full T11 gear i have 110k mana.Now the funny part restores 6% once every 12sec. ~6.06k. Through those 12 sec you can cast 4 or 12 PW:S (if tallented) so it's = ~26k or 78k mana.Conclusion not enough mana return if PW:S will cost that mutch. Soul Warding no piont in having that at all :DDisc priest main spell is PW:S and now it seems that Blizz wants to change that cardinaly...
Yes I agree with that. they should do something with healing stream totem, like Healing ward in Warcraft 3 Shaman. rather that copying spells from other healer class.
I just looked at the difference in those two tooltips and loled myself into a comma! LOLOLOLOLOLOL not a chance for Disc, see ya! LOL
I'm also scratching my head about the PW:Shield changes. They don't want discipline priests to use it as a main spell? That's like saying they don't want frost mages to use frostbolt.So what happens to all of these: , Soul Warding, , Glyph of Weakened Soul, , Borrowed Time?And how will that effect the value of mastery?I'm baffled.
yeah that was a long rant, i was tired and had a lot to get off my chest. well i'm off on wowcation , a long over due one . what ever blizz does this week will change next week so none of it matters. enjoy that game , i'm bored with the broken product . i hope it works out for you guys , ontos has left the building.
I was disc since I started my healer and leveled my healer through LFD tool .. I don't like to heal as holy ( holy is my OS ) .. I don't play SP because I have a kick-arse mage. Involved in many raids as Disc and can always keep my heals+shields UP at all time. For the recount-crazy people .. my heal is always 1st or 2nd in total heal ( without adding shield. ) ... I healed my arse off all the time and enjoyed being Disc.In Cata .. I'm still healing as hell .. but after all these PW:S changes later ... I feel like .. Blizz is killing Disc. Disc is becoming D-OOM-isc nowadays. As far as I know Disc is the only "damage mitigation healer" type. First bubble spam was removed, then mana cost raised. I'm not one of those advance player with holy-crap gears ... I can heal better with my healadin with the similar gear content.While blizz is doing crappy job in balancing patch after patch .. I was nearly lost my faith in both tanking and healing. ( DPS Q for heroic is 1hr+ now .. ya I am making my mage as bank toon soon. ) Out of this patching choas ... I'd rather re-rolling a shammy (50) and hunter(50) .. maybe another Druid. So .. whatever blizz is nerfing .. I can switch another class and keep raiding.Blizz is saying they are trying to balance the difference between healing classes. I think they are doing in reverse .. while my Disc gone OOM during boss fight after all CD/pots, my friend shammy can't heal enough and don't see many restro druid ... my pally with blue gears can heal heroic .. blindly. Next patch .. pally may be nerfed to oblivion .. so all healers can be equally miserable..
Thank you Icebeard7. I read the Blue post and then read it over and over again trying to see where they said they didn't want disc to use PW:S. WotLK ruined too many peoples perception of how to heal. Every class had their 1 heal that they would use, and Blizzard is thankfully getting rid of that. Hopefully people will realize that the increase in mana for PW:S is not that big of an increase, especially since its huge buff in last patch.
The idea is you use it when you need to, not throw it everywhere and on everyone as a pseudo raid healer.It's an instant cast ~25k heal/absorb spell, there has to be some drawbacks associated with it.I'm Disc and I'm fine with this.
WOOT they didnt mention Holy Pallys :)
That's a rather large healing increase O_o