If you think it's too hard now, just wait six months and try it again. Everything I worked hard for in the past I can now get for almost free. Expect the same of the current content as well.
After yesterday's post on upcoming changes and tweaks, where healing was quoted as "working as intended", I was pretty frustrated. I play a druid healer and I seemed to go OOM during every boss fight when I feel I haven't done as much spam healing as I used to.So last night, after reading the mostly positive feedback here, I got on and did a really hard once over my talents and gear and decided to try again. I was fortunate enough to get grouped up with 4 other players who had a good mentality. All three DPS had and used their CC/Stun/Interrupt mechanics and the tank not only marked the targets in a kill order, but he properly used his CDs during intense fights. With everyone in the group working together, being positive, having patience, and communicating we were able to get through it all without a single wipe. I only had to drink after boss fights.It is a night and day difference between grouping with people who are willing to work as a team and grouping with people who still think this is Wrath.Last night it felt like a much better return to Vanilla/BC dungeon runs and I really enjoyed myself.So are they too hard? If you only think of yourself and arent willing to work as a team, probably. If you work together with your group and everyone communicates properly, not at all.I still think resto druids could use a few tweaks to be on par with other healers I have seen, but I didn't feel debilitatingly underpowered last night.TL;DR - Have patience, take it slow(er), and be a team player and you can get through heroics just fine.
I completely agree with Blizzard. Why do ppl want it easy? I don't get it!It is supposed to be hard, it is supposed to be challenging and therefore have great rewards.
I've completed every dungeon in heroic multiple times, as a Tankadin. I don't think that heroics in general are too hard (but I feel that a few specific trash packs are quite tough, as well as a few bosses - but honestly, the difficulty is decreasing as my gear improves).The biggest problem is that most people just facerolled the normals, or skipped them all together. The result is a batch of people who think that they're awesome enough to run heroics, when they aren't - honestly, it should be a requirement that you have completed the instance on normal, before you can complete it on heroic. That way you have an idea of what is expected, and 'what does this one do?' turns into 'what's different on heroic?' which is a lot slimmer of an explanation.As for what's too hard? I think Stonecore as a whole is a tough instance for a poor group composition. You need good amounts of CC (particularly for the hall of fanatics) and some ranged as well for the first boss. Admittedly, only one good ranged is required for the first boss, but the more the merrier. Also, the last few pulls in the side corridors of Throne of Tides with the gigantic faceless ones + giblins are a bit rough on the tank and healer.
Hahaha, I was telling people during cata beta that heroics were 10x harder!I thought it would lighten the blow... XD
I used a macro when I went into heroics for the 1st time. It pretty much let them know that I was a credited raid leader (with achievs linked) on my server and reminded them of the 40min queue awaiting them if they wanted to kick due to me being in there for the 1st time..All the groups I got into everyone was cool with me, including all other guild groups I found myself stuck in.
I'm very happy with heroics. I got my Cata heroic dungeon achievement today. So I am very happy to say I accomplished this when the Dungeons are still challenging. I'm not gonna lie it wasn't a easy task, but I am very pleased with the Heroic Dungeon system as it is now.
Honestly, coming from someone that tries to see everyone's perspective and understand why they have that view, the view that heroics are too hard is completely wrong. Heroics are easy. Sure, they are miles harder than Wrath heroics, but they are still easy.I barely use CC anymore in my guild groups and a few times we have accidently facepulled two groups at once and got through it. If you did that as a 70 in BC doing heroics in blues you would have wiped. Heroics are very easy for guild groups because they have the patience and competence required to complete themHeroics are a nightmare for LFDers because they are used to facerolling content with no regard whatsoever for encounter mechanics, CC, mana pools or cooldowns. They wipe once and say "grup sux lul" and leave when in fact they are the ones that suck./EndRant
I'll say that randoms in WotLK were a huge boon on the casual player -- I think that Blizzard here is completely off-base when they say otherwise. Even on normal, I generally don't have 1-3 hours to run one at this point, even though I'm geared for heroics.
I remember when Lich King came out, and how OFTEN in UK! Come on people, think back.... You were not always OP! Less QQ more Pew Pew!
I think that heroics are too difficult for those with the minimum iLevel required to enter it.I think the iLevel requirement should be raised to 335 to use the random dungeon finder. That would solve 50% of the problems.
I think Heroics are tuned perfectly. Making the player think on their feet(so-to-speak) is way better than running a boring dungeon you have done dozens of times that is just no fun to you anymore. Also, for all of you out there that are way to serious and rage on people over a mistake, remember this. It is a game, not real life. The next time you wipe, think back to when you started playing. We are human beings, we learn from mistakes, make some and always remember to have fun.
i'm so happy i was doing dungeons in TBC or i might have been an inpatient incompetent nerd-rager today. XDthis posts recaptcha was: filed moreen
Heroics are just fine people need to slow down a bit more though and not expect them to take only 15 minutes to complete.
The heroics are not too hard nor are they too easy, Just like TBC, get over it QQers*Puts on shades* Deal with it.