...Sums of All The QQ in One PostIn the world of Cata dungeons and raiding, personal mistakes quickly become raid mistakes. If you cannot see how that works, here is a simple example to help convey understanding.1. You are a DPS. You stand in the fire more often than is necessary.2. Healer has to waste mana on you to keep you alive. Yes, I said waste, that is the correct verbage.3. Healer now doesn't have enough mana to last the encounter. The entire group dies.A group that works a heroic dungeon boss encounter correctly means the healer should never go OOM because damage is minimized and the amount of damage being taken is what is actually intended. Any roasting in a fire is not intended and will put a hurting on your healer, and as a result, your group suffers as a whole.If you cannot understand that this is the correct play to way, then I and the rest of the community who have adjusted would welcome your decision to hang up your spurs and play something else.Otherwise, welcome to Cataclysm!
I play(ed) a Holy priest lvl 85. I went against a lvl 85 ENV and ran out of mana and died. My kill/damage spells did little damage. A Holy priest doesn't have much to chose from. The damage spells were as effective at doing damage as one flea on a great dane. The lvl 85 ENV had half of his life left when I died. I switched to Shadow and killed the same lvl 85 ENV with no problem. I had half my life and half my mana left when I was done. So in order to quest, I need to be configured as a Shadow priest. If I want to play DPS, I would play my lock. I chose Holy because I wanted to be a healer but that spec is now pretty much useless. In the BG, someone looks at me as Holy and I die. The BS factor >>>> Fun factor which means that I am seriously considering quitting the game.
Funny how many people are QQ'ing that their class/attribute wasn't mentioned...I guess "Just because your class or pet problem isn’t mentioned below doesn’t mean we won’t address it." actually means QQ like blizz cares..
I dps just fine. I suggest you stop crying and get some gear.
Rhyna said:Gnub I hardly or not at all use Earthquake, it just costs too much. When I did use the spell it was in the case of mobs coming in and surrounding the group.Alright. Just wanting to make sure - it is indeed incredibly expensive, and should only be used when you can get the full out of it. :)As for the glyph issue I had forgotten for a brief moment what Glyph of Elemental Mastery really dealt with. What I was thinking was how there was a glyph that dealt with the mastery yet enhance & resto shammies doesn't have a glyph to work along side their form of mastery, if that made sense.That's what I was thinking. Makes perfect sense. No biggie though.As well with resto, the two new healing spells Healing Surge and healing rain are crazy in the amount they cost to use them that it's no use even using.Same case as with Earthquake, basically. Mind you, I haven't healed a lot in Cataclysm, but my understanding was that you pay for the quick and effective healing in mana cost. If you can spare the mana, it's incredibly useful, but it's not something that should be relied on. Especially not Healing Surge.Rhyna said:I oom for what reason idk. I use the lightening shields, the glyph for them, the talent for them, shoot I even pop my mana totem as well. But what gear stat do you have on when in Elem spec? Because my regen in Elem is horrible when comparing it to my resto gear :(Basically, it's because our mana regeneration is given otherwise. You get mana from throwing Lightning Bolts, and if need be, you can use Thunderstorm. The odd use of Chain Lightning (which I hope you havn't got in your single target rotation), will drain your mana. Again, Earthquake is incredibly taxing here, but there should usually be mana enough for a few of them, if the encounter requires it.Gnub I Just wanna say thanks :) ^_^ wish there was a +1 on this thread for your post/replies to mine. thanks again
Ug, please don't remove the fear immunity from feral berserk. That might just be the straw that breaks the camel's back for me.
Really? Healing is working as intended?Going OOM halfway through a regular boss fight is what you wanted?Obviously, if you're going oom that fast, you're failing or you're grp is failing and taking too much dmg. Did some raid encounters, we did it close to perfect, all our healers had at least 50 % of their mana left when bosses were done. Some attempts before that, when we failed, DPS, tank and the healers themselves took unnecessary dmg so that healers went oom and we wiped.
Healing working as intended? Brilliant! Healing Normal Dungeons even BEFORE the gear-cap for Heroics is a faceroll as a Paladin. Holy Light, Shock, Glory and Judgement whenever you are bored had me leave every fight with +90% mana. Now Heroics... Is pretty much the same. leave fights with at least 50 % mana on almost all fights. Granted, a few of the encounters push me lower, or force me to prioritize Judgement far more than others, but in general, healing is a piece of cake, waiting to be eaten. Stopped tanking as the same Paladin because I often couldn't survive well enough, and healers quickly dried out on mana, so I switched to healing instead, and it's going insanely well. I actually feel stronger now than I did in Wrath, and that's while I still have problems using Shock and Glory whenever I can/got sufficient HP. Oh, and I'm topping everyone off. In my experience, there is little-to-no reason not to do this. Why? It allows me to use nothing but Holy Light all the time, as I don't suddenly find a dps getting dangerously low because he can't see the spell effects on the ground. The last Heroic went without even a single Divine Light, and Flash of Light isn't even on my action bar. CDs ftw ?
And nothing on Rogue PvP.....Sub damage or Muti mobility? Not issues?"Hello! I'm A Rouge, I get one shotted by Make Up Remover"Man, where can I buy make remover in Org?
I'm sensing alot of QQ in this thread....And its all rubbish.Healing is working as intended in my mind. Tanking has never been better (22k cleaves? OMNOMNOM) and DPS (bar ret) is fine.People QQing about healing either a) spam heal everyone to 100% in each encounter, for no reason, and wonder why they're OOM or b) have to spam heal DPS classes that are too stupid too move from unnessecary damage.Basically, relearn to heal again. DPS can live at 70% hp (depending on the encounter), and learn to use your damage mitigation spells. If i see one more holy preist NOT shielding me just because their Holy and not Disc I will explode.And yes, some of the bosses in heroics are scaled high, but after all, would it be HEROIC if they were not hard? If your struggling, farm the easy bosses for gear (or y'know, stop being lazy and faceroll normal instances for rep?) then come back. A week ago, I was struggling with Lost City and SFK, now we pwn them. TL;DR - Learn to play the game again and stop QQing because you can't faceroll heroic content ¬¬
"To reduce mage control, we are discussing reducing the duration of Frost Nova and Ring of Frost."/loveGhostcrawler, will you marry me? hahaha
I play(ed) a Holy priest lvl 85. I went against a lvl 85 ENV and ran out of mana and died. My kill/damage spells did little damage. A Holy priest doesn't have much to chose from. The damage spells were as effective at doing damage as one flea on a great dane. The lvl 85 ENV had half of his life left when I died. I switched to Shadow and killed the same lvl 85 ENV with no problem. I had half my life and half my mana left when I was done. So in order to quest, I need to be configured as a Shadow priest. If I want to play DPS, I would play my lock. I chose Holy because I wanted to be a healer but that spec is now pretty much useless. In the BG, someone looks at me as Holy and I die. The BS factor >>>> Fun factor which means that I am seriously considering quitting the game.What the hell is a level 85 ENV?
Nice necro/double post...smh