So...siege engines aren't driven by players?nevermindyou dont see my pointYou don't have a point, other than "QQ I dunt like vehicles"
Sweet another world pvp zone that I'll never get to experience due to a massive horde/alliance inbalance.What's next to unveil? Another BG that has a 3 hour wait time? Oh boy!
horray for another failed attempt at world pvp by blizzardcant wait til i see a hundred siege vehicles driving aroundIn order to destroy the defenders' towers, attackers will have access to an all-new type of war machine: Abandoned Siege Engines.yep,gratz blizzard for yet again failing at world pvpIts called "Variety". Just because you think vehicles are terrible in PvP doesn't mean others think the same thing. So who the hell are you to say what PvP needs to be? If you don't like it, don't do it then. I'm pretty sure what ever faction you're on will do just fine with out you. So while Tol Barad is going on go que up for a BG or kill some low lvs in Hellfire trying to cap towers.
So...siege engines aren't driven by players?nevermindyou dont see my pointOf course we see your point. You think vehicles are bad, and anybody that disagrees is either inexperienced at what you consider to be "good" PvP or they are simply scrubs. I suppose I should apologize that my opinion doesn't revolve around yours, but I would be lying if I did.I like vehicles. I've played...I would say about (obviously made up statistic, it's just an estimate) 80% of the MMORPGs that have been out since the days of Meridian 59, Gemstone, and Ultima Online, so I would say I have what qualifies as some experience in the genre. There is one thing I have learned over the years that always holds true no matter what game you play, and that is the age old line of "Your experience will vary."Nobody, and I mean nobody, is ever going to have the same definition of fun. You might think vehicle combat sucks eggs, and you know what? More power to you. Your opinion is yours and yours alone and since it is on a subject such as fun it is nobody's right to say your wrong, there is no facts in something like that. That said, kindly stop telling people who enjoy something you do not that they are somehow inexperienced or have never played that thing you consider to be 'good' PvP. Their opinions are just as valid as yours, experienced or no. If you dislike how WoW is setting up PvP you have a few options.1: Post on the Oboards about your discontent, maybe something will happen.2: Do not join that particular battleground3: Cope, join that battleground, and maybe find out you enjoy it. If not, simply avoid messing with the vehicles4: Find a game that caters to your obviously sophisticated and experienced PvP preferences
Less QQ, more vehicles :P
I don't much care if it's fun or it fails, I'm just happy it's not smack in the middle of a continent so I don't get dismounted over it./content
As I was reading through the description for Tol Barad, an interesting thought occured to me.What if zones like Tol Barad could actually be fought for?I don't just mean in the PvP sense. I mean in the literal, storyline sense.As in, what if Blizzard could combine PvE questing and phasing with specific sub-zones dedicated to all out anarchic PvP, where each activity, each quest, each "Battle" would be one more step towards permanently designating the zone as a Levelling Zone//Quest Hub for whichever faction emerged victorious? So, say for an entire expansion, Zone "X" is a combined PvE and PvP zone. Battles are waged, quests are completed, maybe even massive outdoor raids are completed, while a long-term slider bar displays which faction is closer towards the ultimate goal of claiming the piece of land for their own.Then, when the final pre-expansion patch is released, the land is once-and-for-all deeded to the faction that put in the most time, completed the most quests, won the most battles, and beat the most raids the fastest. From then on, Zone "X" is a primarily faction-specific zone that all players of the victorious faction can level and quest in. I mean, I personally think that would be awesome. It would be a way to allow people like myself to actually get involved in the "Faction War" part of Warcraft's storyline.As of right now, there are only two polar opposite ways to enjoy the game, where the grey area is only as extensive as a few choice words shouted by an NPC, farming reputation with the faction-neutral reputations, or partaking in one of the 3 PvP quests. It's still just killing a certain amount of horde players, then calling it a day and returning to um... oh yeah, preventing the world from ending..-The only way to feel the intensity of the Faction War, you have to queue up for battlegrounds until your eyeballs bleed and fall out.-The only way to feel involved in the main plot of Warcraft is to do nothing but quest and farm instances.It'd be really nice if Blizzard could implement something like that... I'd most definitely participate in something like that.I mean, why are PvP zones even 'up for grabs' if the control only lasts about 1 hour?
Guys, seriously...Can't you see that Foshizzle is just a troll? Trolls will be trolls.As long as people have something to b***h and moan about, they'll do just that.Based on his history, I don't think he's a(n) (intentional) troll.I'm going to go with Troll. Because the alternative makes me want to cry.I'm not ready to believe that Humanity is a lost cause, yet.
4: Find a game that caters to your obviously sophisticated and experienced PvP preferencesDo you mind if I save this and rewrite it to serve every situation in which it might apply?:D :D :D
4: Find a game that caters to your obviously sophisticated and experienced PvP preferencesDo you mind if I save this and rewrite it to serve every situation in which it might apply?:D :D :DFeel free I suppose, don't really think I've ever been used as a reference material before. :P
So...siege engines aren't driven by players?nevermindyou dont see my pointYou don't have much of a point honestly.You are saying that PvP should only involve players without vehicles, and are saying that, without vehicles, the scenario is more realistic.In actuality, since the first days wars have been fought, siege machines have been used. Ever try breaking a gigantic stone wall with a steel sword?Yes, this is fantasy, but a bit of realism does actually add to the experience and fun (imo). And the warcraft series has always been somewhat technological. You take out the siege machines that exist in both real life and fantasy, and you are only left with a bunch of savages swinging swords at each other. Thats not real warfare.I personally love all of the vehicle-related battlegrounds and areas. Without these segments, its just a copy and paste of arathi basin or warsong gulch with an altered layout. Keep 'em coming Blizzard, I love 'em :)
I don't care what people are saying about this place.I'm playing the everloving smack out of this area so I can get that Spectral Wolf mount.
Ok, if you don't like the WoW vehicle mechanic, either play any BG other than SotA, or don't be on vehicle duty.thats not the point.the vehicles shouldnt be there in the first placeAnd who are you to say what should and shouldn't be in game? Blizzard has put in siege vehicles to add another angle of fun. I like them. I think they're uh "doing it right" because since implementing vehicles, their subscriptions have only gone up, like always. Don't like vehicles? Go play another game. Its your money.Sheesh.
Go play another game. Its your money.ya,ill get right on that when theres a mmo out thats not made by blizzard that looks good enough to playand id say you need to pvp in more games then just WoW.there not doing pvp right,there doing it wrong.but eather way,maybe if blizzard cared enough in the first place the pvp wouldnt be so bad in this game
Go play another game. Its your money.ya,ill get right on that when theres a mmo out thats not made by blizzard that looks good enough to playand id say you need to pvp in more games then just WoW.there not doing pvp right,there doing it wrong.but eather way,maybe if blizzard cared enough in the first place the pvp wouldnt be so bad in this gameAnd once again you make a false statement of fact. It is your OPINION that Blizzard is doing PvP wrong, just as it is many of our OPINIONS that Blizzard is doing it right. You can't argue something as subjective as personal enjoyment with the idea that you can be right or wrong, so kindly find a new angle for your argument or stop crying.
Go play another game. Its your money.ya,ill get right on that when theres a mmo out thats not made by blizzard that looks good enough to playand id say you need to pvp in more games then just WoW.there not doing pvp right,there doing it wrong.but eather way,maybe if blizzard cared enough in the first place the pvp wouldnt be so bad in this gameI can't tell what you mean from your horrible use of english (no offense intended).From what you just said, it sounds like you are saying that no games out there really get PvP right. If thats the case, how can you say that WoW's PvP is wrong, if it is "different" from all of the other games, when you clearly stated the other games can't get it right?If anything, WoW's PvP is as close to a real battle scenario (as far as fantasy goes) as is possible. Again, if you want to mindlessly swing you sword at another player, there are plenty of games out there that are like that.PvP should not be mindless. Blizzard is doing their best to make it strategic and fun for all who are involved. If you want mindless PvP action, you should go play a FPS, you can't get anymore basic and mindless than that.
oh noez the grammer police is out.my horrible use of english has gotten pointed out once again/gasp
oh noez the grammer police is out.my horrible use of english has gotten pointed out once again/gasp...I am not serving the role of grammar police. I couldn't care less about grammar.The problem arises when your grammar is so horrible that I can't understand the meaning behind your sentence. That is what grammar was...you know...invented for.
I don't think you actually fight in the seige weapons. I'm pretty sure you just drive them to the towers, then get out of them and the seige weapons destroy the tower automatically. It gives you something to 'guard' while you are on offense.I don't think it's going to be like WG where people will be chasing a single player in circles in a 300,000hp seige engine.The thing i vastly hate about WG2.0 is the matching system. In my opinion, it is not 'world pvp' when people can't participate. One of the things I really like about WG is that before nearly every match, there are people in town saying " WG in 5 mins" it's. It is nice to rally the troops.With WG2.0, it seems like people will be quiet and hope others don't queue.It's not world pvp, it's just another battleground that is limited to one server.
oh noez the grammer police is out.my horrible use of english has gotten pointed out once again/gasp...I am not serving the role of grammar police. I couldn't care less about grammar.The problem arises when your grammar is so horrible that I can't understand the meaning behind your sentence. That is what grammar was...you know...invented for.if you couldnt care less about grammer.you wouldnt of made the comment you made about my grammerbut eather way.if whats going on with the queueing for wintergrasp right now is whats going to happen with tol barad then my interest has pretty much been gone with tol barad